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So, I just got my DInc a few days ago and they did the OTA update at the store while setting up my phone. After 4 days of searching and trying to downgrade, I think I may have found, or figured out a way to downgrade to stock 2.2 without having s=off.
First thing is, the 2nd video on this thread shows how to downgrade if you did the unofficial OTA update, and provides a link for the files. Basically it seems to be a way to downgrade the hboot.
My question is this....if I was to follow that guide and do the down grade that way, would it be possible to the update zip from here, or use the one from this forum here, without basically bricking the phone?
I've rooted my fiances Droid 2 without any problems, and I've done a great deal of console modding and checking out firmware in computers and consoles and from what I gather, it seems that this would work in downgrading from the OTA update and being able to get root and not have problems. My problem is that I don't know much about the DInc enough to try it without an input from people that do know.
Any thoughts or ideas? Or anyone willing to try it and let me know? lol
Sorry for the outside links, but I couldn't find all the info on the forums here.
Unrevoked should have a solution to rooting the OTA ready for release within the next day or two. I'd wait for that rather than trying other untested methods.
That's possible, but then again, they may not be having any luck, or might come up with a similar mehod. Nothing is ever tested on the first try lol.
Im hoping someone else has either tried this, or knows enough about it to say if it will work or not. If I can get my phone rooted this way and not have to wait for Unrevoked to do it, that's ok with me lol.
It would work if you had an s-off hboot but I believe this method was already proven not to work with the s-on hboot as it doesn't allow downgrading. You'll get a message similar to "newer version found on device" or something to that effect.
Edit: The video in the link says you have to already be rooted to do this so no it won't work.
Not the first video, the 2nd one. Where it uses the sdk to push the files through.
enlightened79 said:
Unrevoked should have a solution to rooting the OTA ready for release within the next day or two. I'd wait for that rather than trying other untested methods.
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This is correct! Verified on my thread and verified on my twitter.
I'm currently on 4.4.2 my bootloader is unlocked and S-ON , I've TWRP and SuperSU install can i flash custom and stock ROMs from TWRP or do i need to S-OFF my device first to install ROMs if so how to S-OFF as the ADB i install doesnt work on my windows which is 8.1 as well as on my other laptop which is running windows 7, whenever i try to start adb the command prompt windows starts n then closes without giving any error.
HELP
Azroid said:
I'm currently on 4.4.2 my bootloader is unlocked and S-ON , I've TWRP and SuperSU install can i flash custom and stock ROMs from TWRP or do i need to S-OFF my device first to install ROMs if so how to S-OFF as the ADB i install doesnt work on my windows which is 8.1 as well as on my other laptop which is running windows 7, whenever i try to start adb the command prompt windows starts n then closes without giving any error.
HELP
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You can flash ROMs, but only 4.4.2 based ones as you have old firmware. It will break your wifi if you try to flash 4.4.3/4.4.4 Roms.
First use this guide to get ADB working on windows 8.1
Then get Sunshine S-Off. You'll need it to update your firmware to run newer 4.4.4 ROMs, and can only do that with an OTA or S-Off. You can find it with Google. It cost $25, but is totally worth it. And if it doesn't work, you don't pay.
After that, update your firmware. If you need help with that, quote me here with a reply, and I'll help to guide you along.
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You can flash ROMs, but only 4.4.2 based ones as you have old firmware. It will break your wifi if you try to flash 4.4.3/4.4.4 Roms.
First use this guide to get ADB working on windows 8.1
Then get Sunshine S-Off. You'll need it to update your firmware to run newer 4.4.4 ROMs, and can only do that with an OTA or S-Off. You can find it with Google. It cost $25, but is totally worth it. And if it doesn't work, you don't pay.
After that, update your firmware. If you need help with that, quote me here with a reply, and I'll help to guide you along.
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The thing is whats the point of having an android if i have to pay for a certain thing
when i bought my phone its bootloader was unlocked and the S-ON had a TWRP installed in it, clearly shows the previous owner effed it up i've no idea why.I'd try to make my adb work first if it works there is another way to S-OFF something called waterwork dont know for sure it require adb to work if there is anything else u can share to help I'd be thankful
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The thing is what the point of having an android if i have to pay for a certain thing
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Maybe the developers felt the same way. What's the point of spending countless hours and many bricked devices(thousands of dollars) to give S-OFF to people that probably don't even know what to do with it, for free ?
Azroid said:
The thing is what the point of having an android if i have to pay for a certain thing
when i bought my phone its bootloader was unlocked and the S-ON had a TWRP installed in it, clearly shows the previous owner effed it up i've no idea why.I'd try to make my adb work first if it works there is another way to S-OFF something walled waterwork dont know for sure it require adb to work if there is anything else u can share to help I'd be thankful
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You have two choices that I know of. Pay $25, or remain S-On. The choice is yours.
HTC patched the Firewater exploit, so it won't work. Sunshine is made by the same team, and with all the time and effort they put into it, $25 isn't too much to ask for.
But there is a way to get it for free, you are correct.
Find the exploits on your own and develop your own S-Off method.
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Maybe the developers felt the same way. What's the point of spending countless hours and many bricked devices(thousands of dollars) to give S-OFF to people that probably don't even know what to do with it, for free ?
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Calm down i just wrote in a fun way
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You have two choices that I know of. Pay $25, or remain S-On. The choice is yours.
HTC patched the Firewater exploit, so it won't work. Sunshine is made by the same team, and with all the time and effort they put into it, $25 isn't too much to ask for.
But there is a way to get it for free, you are correct.
Find the exploits on your own and develop your own S-Off method.
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Thanks to u the adb is working on my laptop still whats the use of it as firewater method won't work
Azroid said:
Thanks to u the adb is working on my laptop still whats the use of it as firewater method won't work
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Are you kidding? You don't NEED s-off, so don't get it. Stick with the 4.4.2 ROMs. Or, pony up the money, stop being so cheap, and run the newest ROMs. It's really that simple.
If you expect people to work for you for free, then come over to my place. I have some leaves that need raking, and I expect to pay you nothing to do it..
Anyways, I'm glad you got ADB working. :good:
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Are you kidding? You don't NEED s-off, so don't get it. Stick with the 4.4.2 ROMs. Or, pony up the money, stop being so cheap, and run the newest ROMs. It's really that simple.
If you expect people to work for you for free, then come over to my place. I have some leaves that need raking, and I expect to pay you nothing to do it..
Anyways, I'm glad you got ADB working. :good:
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Calm down saying this once again need help not here for ur lectures, if u dont want to help then please dont reply and be careful with the words u use.
Azroid said:
Calm down saying this once again need help not here for ur lectures, if u dont want to help then please dont reply and be careful with the words u use.
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I did help you. You have two choices. Pay or stay S-On. It's as simple as that.
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I did help you. You have two choices. Pay or stay S-On. It's as simple as that.
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And i thanked you for that it really worked i've been tryin to do that since 6 hours and i appreciate your help but my friend u got to use your words wisely thats what i said
Azroid said:
The thing is whats the point of having an android if i have to pay for a certain thing
when i bought my phone its bootloader was unlocked and the S-ON had a TWRP installed in it, clearly shows the previous owner effed it up i've no idea why.I'd try to make my adb work first if it works there is another way to S-OFF something called waterwork dont know for sure it require adb to work if there is anything else u can share to help I'd be thankful
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I copied and pasted this from Sunshine's website. Maybe it will help you understand why it isn't free:
"Simply put, it isn't free. SunShine is the cumulation of years of research, hundreds of hours of development, the sacrifice of many devices (R.I.P. bricked test phones), and the blood, sweat and tears of multiple developers. Just like how a mechanic charges money for his time souping up your car, the only feasible way to devote the time and energy to this is to charge for it. The income from SunShine allows us to recoup the time lost from other projects, to invest more time into research and development of new solutions, purchase new test hardware, and to allow us to enjoy a few bottles of wine at the end of a hard week.
Well crud, how much are you asking for?
The initial price of SunShine is set at $25.00usd per device, payable via paypal or credit-card from within the application itself. Our hopes are that SunShine is successful enough to allow us to find or purchase vulnerabilities, and to develop future solutions at lower prices. If you want to see additional payment options become available, let us know in support!
Are you crazy $25?!?
You may be right. We may be crazy. Considering our costs to develop SunShine, we feel we are justified. Most of our customers purchased heavily subsidized devices, instead of opting for a more developer friendly product. SunShine solves that situation, at a much lower cost than purchasing a developer device."
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I copied and pasted this from Sunshine's website. Maybe it will help you understand why it isn't free:
"Simply put, it isn't free. SunShine is the cumulation of years of research, hundreds of hours of development, the sacrifice of many devices (R.I.P. bricked test phones), and the blood, sweat and tears of multiple developers. Just like how a mechanic charges money for his time souping up your car, the only feasible way to devote the time and energy to this is to charge for it. The income from SunShine allows us to recoup the time lost from other projects, to invest more time into research and development of new solutions, purchase new test hardware, and to allow us to enjoy a few bottles of wine at the end of a hard week.
Well crud, how much are you asking for?
The initial price of SunShine is set at $25.00usd per device, payable via paypal or credit-card from within the application itself. Our hopes are that SunShine is successful enough to allow us to find or purchase vulnerabilities, and to develop future solutions at lower prices. If you want to see additional payment options become available, let us know in support!
Are you crazy $25?!?
You may be right. We may be crazy. Considering our costs to develop SunShine, we feel we are justified. Most of our customers purchased heavily subsidized devices, instead of opting for a more developer friendly product. SunShine solves that situation, at a much lower cost than purchasing a developer device."
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Yes i checked the website but what i want is a stock HTC ONE M8 ROM i really dont wanna install the custom ROMs what i want is to get the stock HTC ROM with the OTA support.
Azroid said:
Yes i checked the website but what i want is a stock HTC ONE M8 ROM i really dont wanna install the custom ROMs what i want is to get the stock HTC ROM with the OTA support.
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If that's what you want, then I can help you there.
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376"]Go here[/URL] for a collection of stock ROMs and recoveries. (You'll also need stock recovery for the OTA to work)
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FIX HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64932229&postcount=11
Got a dev edition phone.
Absolutely F'ing HATE(!!!) Sense and can't even tell if the phone is working properly with all the HTC crap.
Therefore: I want to install a custom AOSP/CM ROM.
1. Bootloader is unlocked as far as I can tell:
*** UNLOCKED ***
htc_himaulatt PVT S-ON
LK-1.0.0.000
RADIO-01.01_U11440792_97.00.51203G_F
OpenDSP-15.6.1.00522.8994_1026
OS-3.36.617.12
Dec 16 2015,15:16:29(669696)
2. Installed TWRP (works fine and can boot into it)
3. Install SuperSU 2.49 (TWRP never asked me though)
4. Backup
5. Reboot
... and now the phone first shows HTC, then HTC One, and then it is stuck on the HTC One logo ... gets really hot and just sits there doing nothing.
6. Tried installing CandySix (don't want the #@$%#@$% stock ROM anyhow):
- wipe dalvik, cache, system, factory reset
- install ROM
- install GAPPS
7. Reboot
... and now the phone first shows HTC, then HTC One, and then it is stuck on the HTC One logo ... gets really hot and just sits there doing nothing.
8. Restore Backup
... and now the phone first shows HTC, then HTC One, and then it is stuck on the HTC One logo ... gets really hot and just sits there doing nothing.
WTF?
I am starting to already dislike this piece of junk.
How can I fix this?
And BTW, what is that BS with S-OFF suddenly costing money and a developer phone not being S-OFF already?
Did you use TWRP 2.8.7.1-CPTB-Beta-1? Did you not allow TWRP to root the rom when you exited it?
I assume your backup doesn't work because you used the wrong SuperSU version. You can only root Android M with SuperSU 2.64 or 2.65. (Keyword: system-less root)
The dev phone never was S-OFF. It's defined by the pre-unlocked bootloader. And Sunshine costs money because of all the investments the devs had. But if you have a problem with that you can develope your own S-OFF method and contribute it for free or you can talk to the Sunshine devs in their thread. I know that they're willing to make Sunshine a free app if someone takes over all the costs they're facing.
Flippy498 said:
Did you use TWRP 2.8.7.1-CPTB-Beta-1? Did you not allow TWRP to root the rom when you exited it?
I assume your backup doesn't work because you used the wrong SuperSU version. You can only root Android M with SuperSU 2.64 or 2.65. (Keyword: system-less root)
The dev phone never was S-OFF. It's defined by the pre-unlocked bootloader. And Sunshine costs money because of all the investments the devs had. But if you have a problem with that you can develope your own S-OFF method and contribute it for free or you can talk to the Sunshine devs in their thread. I know that they're willing to make Sunshine a free app if someone takes over all the costs they're facing.
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TWRP never asked me about rooting.
Installed SuperSU version 2.49 since I saw that being recommended (downloaded through the Toolkit).
So how do I fix this?
I seem to be unable to boot into the stock/backup nor a flashed ROM. WTF?
If I had known this BS about S-OFF I would have stuck to my mantra to never buy another HTC phone. Seems like I was right. This is such BS. Plenty of devs risk (lose) devices to development.
I have donated before but charging for something like this is just low!
andTab said:
TWRP never asked me about rooting.
Installed SuperSU version 2.49 since I saw that being recommended (downloaded through the Toolkit).
So how do I fix this?
I seem to be unable to boot into the stock/backup nor a flashed ROM. WTF?
If I had known this BS about S-OFF I would have stuck to my mantra to never buy another HTC phone. Seems like I was right. This is such BS. Plenty of devs risk (lose) devices to development.
I have donated before but charging for something like this is just low!
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That's why I reccomend not using toolkits. Version 2.49 is perfect for Lollipop but not for Marshmallow. I assume the toolkit developer didn't update it in a while. Besides you still didn't answer my question about the installed TWRP version.
Take a look at my thread. There you will find a stock backup for your version. Instructions how to correctly restore it can be found in my google sheet which is linked in the 5th post of that thread and in my signature.
As said before go and talk to the Sunshine devs this is not the right place for this topic. I'm sure that they will explain their reasons to you because you're not the first who has a problem with that decision. S-OFF is not needed if you want to use a HTC phone. Their devices do work perfectly fine without it and there is no basic right for a free S-OFF method. So please stop that topic in this forum because it has been discussed numerous times and it's getting exhausting and annoying.
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That's why I reccomend not using toolkits. Version 2.49 is perfect for Lollipop but not for Marshmallow. I assume the toolkit developer didn't update it in a while. Besides you still didn't answer my question about the installed TWRP version.
Take a look at my thread. There you will find a stock backup for your version. Instructions how to correctly restore it can be found in my google sheet which is linked in the 5th post of that thread and in my signature.
As said before go and talk to the Sunshine devs this is not the right place for this topic. I'm sure that they will explain their reasons to you because you're not the first who has a problem with that decision. S-OFF is not needed if you want to use a HTC phone. Their devices do work perfectly fine without it and there is no basic right for a free S-OFF method. So please stop that topic in this forum because it has been discussed numerous times and it's getting exhausting and annoying.
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Thank you.
Was able to flash the RUU for the dev version with your guide.
Sorry after just spending extra money on getting a dev version of the phone, I am expecting (I think rightfully so) that I can flash ROMs without spending even MORE money.
This feels like a total RIPOFF, especially given that this used to be free.
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And BTW, what is that BS with S-OFF suddenly costing money and a developer phone not being S-OFF already?
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Developer phones were never s-off, never have been. M9 s-off has never been free, but you know you can make a free one.
Oh, I totally forgot that there is a RUU for your version, too. :silly:
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Oh, I totally forgot that there is a RUU for your version, too. :silly:
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Yup. That worked. Thank you!
Just can't install any custom ROMs apparently without paying even more for my "developer" phone.
WTF is the point if the developer phone doesn't allow you to flash ROMs?
I answered to your post in the other thread.
andTab said:
Yup. That worked. Thank you!
Just can't install any custom ROMs apparently without paying even more for my "developer" phone.
WTF is the point if the developer phone doesn't allow you to flash ROMs?
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Rather than complaining, maybe it would be worthwhile to actually read up on what the developer version of the M9 is, and what you are able to do with S-ON, and what you are not able do. jcase and Flippy498 has pretty much explained most of it for you already.
jcase said:
Developer phones were never s-off, never have been. M9 s-off has never been free, but you know you can make a free one.
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So after playing around with any possible combination of flashing, here is the fix:
1. Flash the ROM
2. Flash Gapps
3. Flash a Kernel!!!!!!
Without #3, no ROM worked for me on S-ON.
So: should I have charged for this bit of troubleshooting like the sunshine devs? I wasted probably close to 15 hours on this. Since you are so concerned about justifying the efforts of people (and their right to pay for it), how about sending me $25 so that I can pay for S-OFF?
andTab said:
So after playing around with any possible combination of flashing, here is the fix:
1. Flash the ROM
2. Flash Gapps
3. Flash a Kernel!!!!!!
Without #3, no ROM worked for me on S-ON.
So: should I have charged for this bit of troubleshooting like the sunshine devs? I wasted probably close to 15 hours on this. Since you are so concerned about justifying the efforts of people (and their right to pay for it), how about sending me $25 so that I can pay for S-OFF?
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If you spent $10,000s and years of your life to research and develop it, yes by all means charge for it. Why should I pay for you to have s-off? Here is an idea, why dont you develop a solution for free and release it to everyone?
I am a one of the SunShine developers, I am one of the guys that spent years of time, and way too much of my money to develop it.
jcase said:
If you spent $10,000s and years of your life to research and develop it, yes by all means charge for it. Why should I pay for you to have s-off? Here is an idea, why dont you develop a solution for free and release it to everyone?
I am a one of the SunShine developers, I am one of the guys that spent years of time, and way too much of my money to develop it.
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I know you are one of the devs and I appreciate your talent.
I am not a developer, so I obviously can't come up with an alternative.
I do see this as a hobby, so I am happy to donate my time and help to others on XDA.
Unlike you, I also provide free advice and help to people in my profession, even if I could charge for it and even though it took me years and more than $10k to gain that ability to give advice (though, the people asking for it would often not be able to afford said advice).
I guess you and I just have a different moral compass ...
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I know you are one of the devs and I appreciate your talent.
I am not a developer, so I obviously can't come up with an alternative.
I do see this as a hobby, so I am happy to donate my time and help to others on XDA.
Unlike you, I also provide free advice and help to people in my profession, even if I could charge for it and even though it took me years and more than $10k to gain that ability to give advice (though, the people asking for it would often not be able to afford said advice).
I guess you and I just have a different moral compass ...
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I'm willing to release for free, if you want to take financial responsibility for the project.
My morals are that I should pay for my own, and shouldn't act entitled and demand others pay for my wants.
andTab said:
I know you are one of the devs and I appreciate your talent.
I am not a developer, so I obviously can't come up with an alternative.
I do see this as a hobby, so I am happy to donate my time and help to others on XDA.
Unlike you, I also provide free advice and help to people in my profession, even if I could charge for it and even though it took me years and more than $10k to gain that ability to give advice (though, the people asking for it would often not be able to afford said advice).
I guess you and I just have a different moral compass ...
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It looks like this thread has run its course.
Bottom line:
If you want S-OFF, pay for it. (It's only a small fraction of the cost of the M9.) If you don't want it, then don't. S-OFF isn't needed to flash ROMs and you are certainly not entitled to it, particularly for free.
Next time, before purchasing a device, verify that it comes the way you want it -- don't assume. Generally speaking, HTC devices have never shipped S-OFF, be they developer editions, unlocked editions or carrier versions.
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Hi,
terribly sorry to bother you guys!
I recently bought an M9 (Belgium, no carrier) and rooted it with the help of this youtube video /watch?v=rOHN8byHAzk
works fine, it's rooted.
The thing is: i did updates before doing the root, as i unlocked bootloader everything was lost/deleted, at the time (4a.m), with my brain half asleep i didn't think about doing the updates again before performing the actual root. Now i keep getting the "system update available" message and can't get rid of it.
It'll keep popping up every few hours, obviously i can't install them because i arrive back at twrp recovery.
Android version 5.0.2
Kernel version 3.10.49-g5c16a62
I turned software updates off in the "about" section in settings, to no avail. I keep getting the message that updates are available. Downloading them and then proceeding to remove the downloaded files don't solve it.
I'm a total noob at this, but (hopefully) not a complete idiot. If there are any steps i can take to get rid of this constantly popping up, please advise me:fingers-crossed:
There's more than one possibility to proceed. Could you provide the output of the "htc_fastboot getvar all" command, when M9 is in download mode (without IMEI and Serial no.). I'd like to point you into the right direction.
Send by the swarm intelligence of my coffee machine ?.
Thanks for taking the time!
It's in download mode, i've got my command prompt open but it says "htc_fastboot is not recognized as an internal or external command, program or batchfile"
In all honesty just pay for s-off and you can flash an unsigned zip and be done with it.
Otherwise you need to get back to official status to flash the update. Pita to be honest.
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shivadow said:
In all honesty just pay for s-off and you can flash an unsigned zip and be done with it.
Otherwise you need to get back to official status to flash the update. Pita to be honest.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
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*sigh*
I'm going to take a few days off of work and try to educate myself on how all of this works exactly because i'm starting to feel like i just came out of the stone age. Honestly, i just rooted my last phone through good old towelroot without ever having to touch or change anything else. I should not have touched stuff i know nothing of to begin with.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply, i'm gonna find some sites to teach me more about this, if you have anything that could help me, feel free to share, because i literally know 0.
Fatimiyye said:
*sigh*
I'm going to take a few days off of work and try to educate myself on how all of this works exactly because i'm starting to feel like i just came out of the stone age. Honestly, i just rooted my last phone through good old towelroot without ever having to touch or change anything else. I should not have touched stuff i know nothing of to begin with.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply, i'm gonna find some sites to teach me more about this, if you have anything that could help me, feel free to share, because i literally know 0.
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Basically, there is a safety feature in HTC otas now that prevents them from running unless your phone is 100% stock. So being rooted, it won't run. There are only two ways forward, find the RUU files for your carrier and install them, or get s-off and update manually. There are multiple threads on how to do all this in the General forum. Read there before doing anything else. HTC phones work differently from other handsets that have to be hacked to achieve root. There is an official path, but how you do it matters.
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Basically, there is a safety feature in HTC otas now that prevents them from running unless your phone is 100% stock. So being rooted, it won't run. There are only two ways forward, find the RUU files for your carrier and install them, or get s-off and update manually. There are multiple threads on how to do all this in the General forum. Read there before doing anything else. HTC phones work differently from other handsets that have to be hacked to achieve root. There is an official path, but how you do it matters.
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Thank you very much man. I'm gonna learn up first, and then take your advice and head to the general forum.
For all other noobs who are desperate to catch up, this is helping me out quite a bit:
http://androidforums.com/threads/how-to-and-some-root-terminology.353591/ => Terminology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHN8byHAzk => Unlock bootloader and root the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979 => This helps to install ADB/fastboot/drivers
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/ => some info about s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59745198&postcount=3 => HTC One M9 FAQ
Edit: OH, AND THIS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
FFS, WATCH THAT ONE!
Just in case anyone has the same issue (i like to end on a positive note =D ) :
The easiest working solution i found for the issue is to go to the Apps management (Settings, apps), go to "All", select "Updater" and then clear data.
No pop ups so far.
Credit for this goes to moderator Earlymon from androidforums
Hi guys,
Got an M9 that updated to Nougat as soon as i laid hands on it. I have very few experience with the HTC world, and would like some information where should i head after here.
I'll definitely need root and am familiar with flashing through fastboot and unlocking through the HTC DEV Token.
I am also aware that a few flashing methods dont work with an unlocked bootloader, so currently i dont want to rush right there.
What is absolutely a myth to me, is S-OFF. Never managed to reach it in any device, and the way of getting it seems a bit unfair (sorry if it doesn't agree with anyone's views).
So this is what i have.
Status: LOCKED and S-ON
ROM: 7.0
Software: 4.16.166.1
Build: CL839204
CID: VODAP110
Baseband: 01.01_U114401011_117.00.61117G_2_F
Has Download mode available.
Thanks in advance.
Sad, sad to have found out that on XDA, barely any helper comes around the Help threads.
And even sadder to the fact that a certain feature to give control over the device have been monopolised in OEM fashion, adding a certain fee too.
The loop of options:
YOU CAN ONLY:
Unlock the device officially, temper with custom roms and recoveries.
The moment you want the benefits of a newer release (baseband, etc), one needs to relock back, that means backing up, go through wiping and locking and back.
YOU CANT:
Certain features that depend on S-OFF. From changing phones origin to updating without bothering locking or not.
Long story short, you cant do anything useful without reaching the pocket.
This concludes as my last HTC phone ever.
PlutoDelic said:
Sad, sad to have found out that on XDA, barely any helper comes around the Help threads.
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I can only speak for myself but I'm not online 24/7. I answer if and when I have time for answering. Then you need to be aware that the M9 forum never was that active and the user base is even decreasing since the phone is already older than two years. If you expect fast replies, then a not so active device forum is definetely the wrong place for asking a question.
Aside from that, there's the ReadMe thread that got pinned at the top of the General and the Q&A section. It contains all answers to your questions. After all the time that I'm maintaining that thread I still don't understand why people prefer creating a new Q&A thread instead of reading what already got written.
PlutoDelic said:
And even sadder to the fact that a certain feature to give control over the device have been monopolised in OEM fashion, adding a certain fee too.
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Please, not that discussion, again. S-OFF is absolutely not needed for using this phone. It's optional.
PlutoDelic said:
Unlock the device officially, temper with custom roms and recoveries.
The moment you want the benefits of a newer release (baseband, etc), one needs to relock back, that means backing up, go through wiping and locking and back.
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Incorrect. If you had read the ReadMe thread you would know that relocking is absolutely not needed (and even not recommended). Not to forget that this phone is EOL. If you update to the latest version before starting to tinker you will never have to deal with this "problem" of getting back to stock. Aside from that, it was Google that introduced the block-based OTAs with android 5, not HTC. You'll face the same "problem" with every phone that gets shipped with android 5 or newer.
PlutoDelic said:
YOU CANT:
Certain features that depend on S-OFF. From changing phones origin to updating without bothering locking or not.
Long story short, you cant do anything useful without reaching the pocket.
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Not sure how you define useful but rooting and installing custom roms is working fine without S-OFF. Most M9 owners have never heard of xda, rooting or custom roms and the majority of the rest doesn't need more than what they already can achieve with S-ON. (The part with the locking already got corrected above.)
Flippy498 said:
I can only speak for myself but I'm not online 24/7. I answer if and when I have time for answering.
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Obviously, i have the same experience on a few Samsung threads, very understandable, although rare does someone have such enthusiastic reply for something positive. But anyway, i'll throw a thanks as i am not here for cynicism or arrogance.
Flippy498 said:
Then you need to be aware that the M9 forum never was that active and the user base is even decreasing since the phone is already older than two years.
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Very well noticed.
Regarding S-OFF, i "just" need it, and was very much disappointed with the solution.