I put the zero cache xml on my fire tv and have noticed its actually filling up the 2 gigs of available storage in certain movies. Is there anyway I can adjust the cache to cap it at like 500 megs or something. Also is there any harm in just deleting the advancesettings.xml? Will this just put the cache settings back to default or might it take anything else with it.
Using the Fire TV tool, I've had the best results with the second settings file.
Code:
<advancedsettings>
<network>
<cachemembuffersize>104857600</cachemembuffersize>
</network>
</advancedsettings>
Otherwise, I get out of space messages.
Sizzlechest said:
Using the Fire TV tool, I've had the best results with the second settings file.
Code:
<advancedsettings>
<network>
<cachemembuffersize>104857600</cachemembuffersize>
</network>
</advancedsettings>
Otherwise, I get out of space messages.
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Oh ok is that basically giving it a 1gig cap?
Setting 0 cache on advanced XML file is the worst thing you can do to the AFTV. It's a huge misconception that this fixes all buffering issues, as this setting is meant for desktops/laptops and/or devices that have unlimited storage space. In the contrary, setting 0 cache will probably cripple your AFTV. Soon your AFTV will start giving warning about low storage.
Here are my XML settings that work beautifully for me:
buffermode: 0
cachemembuffersize: 419430400 (which equals to 400MB)
readbufferfactor: 20
Here's a tutorial on how to do it:
http://youtu.be/BlKr3SyWguA
P.S. - I do not recommend anything over 400mb. Any number you enter as cache, has to be multiplied times 3. This means that 400mb cache will use up 1,200mb of Ram. At any given moment, your AFTV usually has only 1,200-1,300 memory available.
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Newbie_from_NJ said:
Setting 0 cache on advanced XML file is the worst thing you can do to the AFTV. It's a huge misconception that this fixes all buffering issues, as this setting is meant for desktops/laptops and/or devices that have unlimited storage space. In the contrary, setting 0 cache will probably cripple your AFTV. Soon your AFTV will start giving warming about low storage.
Here are my XML settings that work beautifully for me:
buffermode: 0
cachemembuffersize: 419,430,400 (which equals to 400MB)
readbufferfactor: 20
Here's a tutorial on how to do it:
http://youtu.be/BlKr3SyWguA
P.S. - I do not recommend anything over 400mb. Any number you enter as cache, has to be multiplied times 3. This means that 400mb cache will use up 1,200mb of Ram. At any given moment, your AFTV usually has only 1,200-1,300 memory available.
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Thanks I will check that out but just out of curiosity if I delete my existing advanced settings.xml what will happen. Will it just go back to default cache/buffering settings?
You're OK. By default, Kodi/XBMC do not have an XML file.
They are created by advanced users that make tweaks to their needs. If you delete the XML file, the tweak goes away. Be sure to always restart Kodi whenever you create/change/edit XML file.
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So yes, to answer your question, if you delete the file, you'll go back to default. Which I believe is 20mb lol thus the need to make the advance tweak.
I've had problems using the default setting with SPMC. I can't speak for other versions of Kodi, but I'd get out of space errors without it.
Newbie_from_NJ said:
Setting 0 cache on advanced XML file is the worst thing you can do to the AFTV. It's a huge misconception that this fixes all buffering issues, as this setting is meant for desktops/laptops and/or devices that have unlimited storage space. In the contrary, setting 0 cache will probably cripple your AFTV. Soon your AFTV will start giving warming about low storage.
Here are my XML settings that work beautifully for me:
buffermode: 0
cachemembuffersize: 419,430,400 (which equals to 400MB)
readbufferfactor: 20
Here's a tutorial on how to do it:
http://youtu.be/BlKr3SyWguA
P.S. - I do not recommend anything over 400mb. Any number you enter as cache, has to be multiplied times 3. This means that 400mb cache will use up 1,200mb of Ram. At any given moment, your AFTV usually has only 1,200-1,300 memory available.
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Good post! When I first started using aftv I was more or less told the same thing. They also said zero cache typically is for slow connections. If your internet is halfway decent it's not needed.
My advanced settings are only for storing thumbnails to external usb. The only time it buffers is if my router needs a reboot. That goes for my hardwired aftv and wireless. And people say these advanced settings slow things down, but I've tested it with and without. To my eyes the lag from thumbs being read off usb 3.0 is minimal and the trade off is good--saves a lot of space.. I did notice some crashes when flying through the menu at full speed but only like 15% of the time and that's when I really push it, holding down the right button and letting it scroll so fast you can't read the posters.
My FiOS internet connection is fast. My internet speed package is 75/75mbps. When I run speed tests on my devices, I get speeds up in the 80's and 90's. I even installed the speedtest.net app on all my AFTV boxes to check the speed they are achieving. Everything is hardwired via moca adapters. (I used to have powerline adapters, but there's no comparison to moca)
What's my point?
Even with these speeds and being hardwired, all my default installations of XBMC/Kodi would buffer on me constantly when watching high definition videos (1080p). I mean to the point where the movies are not view-able due to the constant interruptions.
There's simply no way I could live using XBMC and Kodi without the XML advanced tweak on the cache. My buffer issue is gone and now I can watch 1080p content and fast-forward 10 minutes at a time and it still doesn't buffer. :0)
I highly recommend this tweak to everyone!
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My FiOS internet connection is fast. My internet speed package is 75/75mbps. When I run speed tests on my devices, I get speeds up in the 80's and 90's. I even installed the speedtest.net app on all my AFTV boxes to check the speed they are achieving. Everything is hardwired via moca adapters. (I used to have powerline adapters, but there's no comparison to moca)
What's my point?
Even with these speeds and being hardwired, all my default installations of XBMC/Kodi would buffer on me constantly when watching high definition videos (1080p). I mean to the point where the movies are not view-able due to the constant interruptions.
There's simply no way I could live using XBMC and Kodi without the XML advanced tweak on the cache. My buffer issue is gone and now I can watch 1080p content and fast-forward 10 minutes at a time and it still doesn't buffer. :0)
I highly recommend this tweak to everyone!
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Yea my only issue was towards the end of high def movies it would say storage filled. Since posting this I have changed to the settings you have posted and it's been running good. I'll see how this goes.
Newbie_from_NJ said:
My FiOS internet connection is fast. My internet speed package is 75/75mbps. When I run speed tests on my devices, I get speeds up in the 80's and 90's. I even installed the speedtest.net app on all my AFTV boxes to check the speed they are achieving. Everything is hardwired via moca adapters. (I used to have powerline adapters, but there's no comparison to moca)
What's my point?
Even with these speeds and being hardwired, all my default installations of XBMC/Kodi would buffer on me constantly when watching high definition videos (1080p). I mean to the point where the movies are not view-able due to the constant interruptions.
There's simply no way I could live using XBMC and Kodi without the XML advanced tweak on the cache. My buffer issue is gone and now I can watch 1080p content and fast-forward 10 minutes at a time and it still doesn't buffer. :0)
I highly recommend this tweak to everyone!
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When streaming video, the bottleneck is almost always with the server you're streaming from. Not your own download speed. Streaming is a two-way street. You can only download as fast as the server at the other end can give you data. So just because your ISP gives you a specific download speed number, that doesn't in any way mean that you'll download from various sites at that speed.
And contrary to popular belief, an advancedsettings.xml file does not increase the speed at which you download video. It simply lets you cache more of the video file, it doesn't let you cache it any faster. For example you'll cache 5 minutes ahead instead of 2 minutes ahead, but it will cache the video at exactly the same speed.
Understand what the video cache settings are actually doing: http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache
buffermode tells XBMC what to cache, be it internet video or local video or network video or all the above.
cachemembuffersize tells XBMC how much to cache. And importantly, setting it this to zero tells XBMC to only use HD space and ignore RAM. A set value tells it to cache 3X that amount in RAM and does not use HD space.
readbufferfactor tells XBMC how much of your own local bandwidth to attempt to request in filling the cache. It's meant to be used to throttle your own local bandwidth, to control the rate at which the cache fills.
Without understanding exactly what these values are doing, you can make things worse for your connection. For example, if you had a really fast internet connection, and used the zerocache setting with a high readbufferfactor setting, you could be unnecessarily writing gigabytes of data to your hard drive every time you watch a large HD movie. Because XBMC will cache as much and as fast as it can, much faster than the speed at which you're watching the video. You're essentially caching much more than you need and destroying your drive in the process. I've also seen people using zerocache, but leaving the readbufferfactor at 1. Which kind of works against what you're trying to accomplish because the low readbufferfactor will prevent XBMC from caching much at all. You have to understand what it's doing for it to be useful for you.
A good advancedsettings.xml file should be tailored to your own device, and your own download speed. But even then, you will still see different results when streaming from different servers. It's possible to have the perfect xml file for your device and network, and still see buffering. I have a gigabit connection from my ISP and see buffering all the time with specific servers. That's normal when using dozens upon dozens of different sources in different countries. Buffering should not just be assumed to be a flaw in your setup/network/device to be fixed with an xml file.
100% agree with you! You have to know what those settings do or you can make things worse. That's why I personally chose those settings... I know what I'm doing and they are specifically meant for the AFTV.
Anyone that is having issues be my guest and try it... If this doesn't do it, we can then reevaluate their personal situation then. :0)
I have used the zero cache advanced xml file and although is really good, eventually I always get the low storage message, which is an annoyance because I would have to clear all data on Kodi and restart to redo all of my Kodi setup to get back where I wanted it.
I personally experienced the low storage space on multiple FireTv devices. Would your advance xml take care of that?
EFEXR said:
I have used the zero cache advanced xml file and although is really good, eventually I always get the low storage message, which is an annoyance because I would have to clear all data on Kodi and restart to redo all of my Kodi setup to get back where I wanted it.
I personally experienced the low storage space on multiple FireTv devices. Would your advance xml take care of that?
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Yes it would. Instead of setting cachemembuffersize to zero, use a set value like the example in post #4. That will use RAM and not use any system HD space for cache. The FireTV has 2GB of RAM, but only ~6GB of usable system hard drive storage. It's to your advantage to use RAM for cache instead of HD.
Newbie_from_NJ said:
Here are my XML settings that work beautifully for me:
buffermode: 0
cachemembuffersize: 419,430,400 (which equals to 400MB)
readbufferfactor: 20
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This combined with changing some TCP settings on my Windows Home Server v1 using what I found here http://night-ray.blogspot.com/2010/03/improving-windows-xp-smb-file.html
completely resolved my buffering issues while watching shared files over my local network. Now if we could just mess with Netflix settings like this everything would be Golden.
Also to be noted, I tried pushing settings over using the Fire TV Utility App, but it must have sent to the wrong location. There was no xml file until I created one using the Easy Advanced Settings program.
If you have root, set the addons settings metadata onto a USB hub flash drive or hard drive. Then you can use disk to cache just fine.
Just wanted to say thanks for the information in this thread, especially Newbie_from_NJ whose settings I used for my FireTV. I'm especially excited about the fact that I'm now able to fast forward and rewind. It's still a little clunky, but I'm able to do it. (Clicking five times on the double arrow button fast forwarded at about 1.5 minutes per second.) Before the advanced setting tweak, fast forwarding simply didn't work and would sometimes make Kodi crash. So, thanks very much!
Also wanted to mention that I installed this advanced setting very easily using adbFire 1.17. If you click on the "Setup" button at the top of the window, it brings up a new window featuring an area where you can tweak all three of the Kodi Cache Settings. Clicking on the "Write XML" button will send a new advancedsettings.xml file right on over to your FireTV. Careful though, because if you've already got an advancedsettings.xml file on your FireTV, it could overwrite it.
Newbie_from_NJ said:
Setting 0 cache on advanced XML file is the worst thing you can do to the AFTV. It's a huge misconception that this fixes all buffering issues, as this setting is meant for desktops/laptops and/or devices that have unlimited storage space. In the contrary, setting 0 cache will probably cripple your AFTV. Soon your AFTV will start giving warning about low storage.
Here are my XML settings that work beautifully for me:
buffermode: 0
cachemembuffersize: 419,430,400 (which equals to 400MB)
readbufferfactor: 20
Here's a tutorial on how to do it:
http://youtu.be/BlKr3SyWguA
P.S. - I do not recommend anything over 400mb. Any number you enter as cache, has to be multiplied times 3. This means that 400mb cache will use up 1,200mb of Ram. At any given moment, your AFTV usually has only 1,200-1,300 memory available.
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These settings are great for the Amazon Fire Tv box thank you.
Do you happen to know the settings for the FireTV Stick? The FireTV Stick has less memory.
EFEXR said:
These settings are great for the Amazon Fire Tv box thank you.
Do you happen to know the settings for the FireTV Stick? The FireTV Stick has less memory.
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Sure thing. Cache is all about RAM (memory) so we need to find out how much memory you have available. The Fire Stick has 1GB of RAM, but we cannot go by that. The operating system is using some of that, along with Kodi. So run Kodi and then go to System/System Info/
There, you will see "Free Memory:" Let me know what is says.
Reboot the fire TV a couple of times and see if you get different results. We need the average free memory the Fire Stick usually has available. I don't want to base it on the one time you check, as something could be running on the background that may provide a lower number.
Newbie_from_NJ said:
Sure thing. Cache is all about RAM (memory) so we need to find out how much memory you have available. The Fire Stick has 1GB of RAM, but we cannot go by that. The operating system is using some of that, along with Kodi. So run Kodi and then go to System/System Info/
There, you will see "Free Memory:" Let me know what is says.
Reboot the fire TV a couple of times and see if you get different results. We need the average free memory the Fire Stick usually has available. I don't want to base it on the one time you check, as something could be running on the background that may provide a lower number.
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I rebooted Kodi three different times to check the Free Memory and all those three times the free memory ranged from 100MB-130MB.
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Hey everyone. I have been using my GSM GN for about a month now.
Lately i have noticed something odd about about a few app file size. I havent seen it mentioned anywhere so im not sure if its something wrong with my phone or its a more common issue.
issue number 1 : In setting, when i choose storage it takes up to a minute for the phone to calculate.
issue number 2: Something is odd about the size of the apps. For instance the google+ app is 21.10mb on my phone(just the app not including the data or usb storage app/data) on the market the app size is 8.33mb... i erased and reinstall the app and got same results.
another example is the kindle app. size of app alone(again without the data) is 25.22mb on the market 9.14mb...
a few other apps are the same.
Issue number 3: Google currents app I just erased it because it increased to 389mb on my phone this number included about 320mb of usb storage app which i have no clue what it means and i had no way to erase.
Any ways sorry for the long post, I guess im just worried that something is wrong with my phone and im hoping to hear from u that u all have the same issues
Happy new year
issue 1: the more data you have on the phone the more it'll take. i have 5GB used and it can take up to a minute on mine, but normally only about 20-30 seconds.
issue 2: Never trust the sizes on the market. depending on your phone/OS version it can and will be different. and most of the time the size listed on the market is the download size.
i'll take your two examples.
Google+ for me is 27.93Mb. i've seen people who's G+ is over 100MB.
the app is 21.10MB, same as you. and then 4.06Mb for data (app data) and 2.77MB for USB storage, which most of the time is cache files that would normally be on your SD card, but since the 'sd card' of the Gnex is virtual it just says usb storage data.
Now on my Nexus One. Google+ is 5.12Mb (moved to the SD) and has only 84Kb of data. and no usb storage data is listed because it's actually on the SD card and was not listed in gingerbread.
issue 3: Currents is a data hog like no other. (though i'd love to know why the amazon appstore is 107Mb on my GN for some reason)
My currents app is 12.29Mb, but i have 93.57Mb of usb storage. if you go to:
sdcard/android/data/com.google.android.apps.currents/files
you'll see what that storage is. and basically it's all cache. Currents will cache the articles and pictures on your SD card so you can just go right into them without having to wait for things to load. And because of that, the more sites you ad, the more it grows.
i hope this helped explain things to you.
Google Music has managed to drive my data usage up to nearly 10GB since the 15th with me having only used it to stream a handful songs (less than 30mins) and nothing else! I swapped from the stock ROM to Android Revolution HD about a week ago, and the data usage screen shows the background data for Google Music at just under 2GB since the ROM switch (2GB in approx. 7 days )!
Maybe it has something to do with my 12,000+ song library, but I doubt it. Any clues as to why it is using so much background data when the app as rarely been used?
Side Note: Thank God for unlimited data plans else this would have been costly...
(Please disregard typo in title. Form should be from.)
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Reseting Google Music has stopped the extreme data usage, even with the app's settings re-enabled to what they were before reseting.
Steps taken:
- Clear data for Google Music
- Revert Google Music back to factory version
- Reinstall from the Market
- Reconfigure app settings
If you have "download over WiFi only" unchecked and have told Google Music to to "make available offline" or something has been caching, it could easily pull down gigs of music. Kinda unlikely but its possible if you've checked the right boxes.
Go check your offline only music collection in the app, see if it's cached a lot of it?
martonikaj said:
If you have "download over WiFi only" unchecked and have told Google Music to to "make available offline" or something has been caching, it could easily pull down gigs of music. Kinda unlikely but its possible if you've checked the right boxes.
Go check your offline only music collection in the app, see if it's cached a lot of it?
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Precisely. If you checked "make available offline", then it'll download your complete library.
I've been using Google Music for months now (well, since it came out, actually) and have used it for all of my music now (ie I'm streaming all of my music over Google Music rather than keeping it on my SD card) and have never come even close to 10GB of usage total (or more than about 2GB over a month for Gmusic) and that's with listening for about an hour or 2 each day.
'make available offline' eh?... i've had that checked off since i first started using google music on my old thunderbolt and have never had an issue like this. even now, it's still checked on my nexus and not using crazy gigga's like what he's experiencing. that's bizarre
I do have "make available offline" checked, but I have not told Google Music to make any music available offline besides the recently played cache it keeps. If I toggle Google Music to only display songs available offline, it only shows ten.
Also I used Google Music on my old HTC Incredible, and never had this issue. Maybe I'll try resetting Google Music on the device...
if you have it set to stream high quality, then it will eat up a lot of data - Google Music streams 320Kbps files at high quality.
that adds up.
oscillik said:
if you have it set to stream high quality, then it will eat up a lot of data - Google Music streams 320Kbps files at high quality.
that adds up.
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Even then 10GB is a lot of music. Heck, maybe with FLAC you'd get 10GB a month with reasonable listening, but that's without caching anything and still it's possible but unlikely.
If u have unlimited y r u worrying . Try checking " only download music for offline availability via wifi". That might stop all the background dl. Or check restrict background data when u click music under data usage
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I have had "only download over wifi" checked for the last 24hrs, and Google Music used a additional 0.25GB in that time period. This option should not matter has I never tell Google Music to download any songs for offline use.
The high quality streaming should not be the culprit either since I have opened the app to stream music in the last 24hrs.
The app seems to just be using 0.25GB a day without any user interaction.
As to why I am concerned even though I have an unlimited data plan, I do not like that something is going on with the phone that I cannot understand, and there is the fact the Verizon might start throttling my speeds due to the high usage.
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I hadn't really used google music much at all, literally one drive around town in the car for about 15 minutes and it had used 56 MB. So after reading this I streamed one song and told it to make it available for offline listening. It was 14.35 MB to do that. I would agree, that is a lot of data for a small amount of music. Looks like the thing to do is go through and make it available off line while on wifi.
Now I am curious where the phone stores it and how much memory each song takes up. With the android file transfer MTP program on my mac I cannot find the songs I have stored for off line music. It is not in the music folder or anywhere obvious. I will dig into the phone with Astro and figure this out when I get a chance.
bmolloy said:
I hadn't really used google music much at all, literally one drive around town in the car for about 15 minutes and it had used 56 MB. So after reading this I streamed one song and told it to make it available for offline listening. It was 14.35 MB to do that. I would agree, that is a lot of data for a small amount of music. Looks like the thing to do is go through and make it available off line while on wifi.
Now I am curious where the phone stores it and how much memory each song takes up. With the android file transfer MTP program on my mac I cannot find the songs I have stored for off line music. It is not in the music folder or anywhere obvious. I will dig into the phone with Astro and figure this out when I get a chance.
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I don't think they're stored as normal mp3 files. all renamed, iirc
bmolloy said:
I hadn't really used google music much at all, literally one drive around town in the car for about 15 minutes and it had used 56 MB. So after reading this I streamed one song and told it to make it available for offline listening. It was 14.35 MB to do that. I would agree, that is a lot of data for a small amount of music. Looks like the thing to do is go through and make it available off line while on wifi.
Now I am curious where the phone stores it and how much memory each song takes up. With the android file transfer MTP program on my mac I cannot find the songs I have stored for off line music. It is not in the music folder or anywhere obvious. I will dig into the phone with Astro and figure this out when I get a chance.
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Look in /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music -- that's where music I've asked to be available offline is stored as numbered mp3 files, and it's presumably also the temporary cache for recently-played music.
Well reseting Google Music seemed to do the trick. The background data hasn't changed for two days straight now. Must have just been a bug that had the app constantly communicating to the servers.
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Well reseting Google Music seemed to do the trick. The background data hasn't changed for two days straight now. Must have just been a bug that had the app constantly communicating to the servers.
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Figured as much. It may have even been hanging on caching one song and trying over and over. Google Music likes to do stuff like that
this is the prime example of when the cloud services are not really delivering as advertised
reason why the 16GB version is just too small for a media / gaming phone
Hi. Im having same problem with massive data usage. Im kind of new to this- so can someone guide me through resetting Google Music? I cant seem to delete it from my phone entirely. I know you mentioned re installing from the market- but whenever I go there it just gives me the upgrade option- which I did- but still doesnt seem to change anything. Sorry! And thanks to everyone in advance for any help!
lespaul1970 said:
Hi. Im having same problem with massive data usage. Im kind of new to this- so can someone guide me through resetting Google Music? I cant seem to delete it from my phone entirely. I know you mentioned re installing from the market- but whenever I go there it just gives me the upgrade option- which I did- but still doesnt seem to change anything. Sorry! And thanks to everyone in advance for any help!
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Settings > Apps > All > Music > Clear Data & Uninstall Updates
That will reset the app to factory settings and allow you to pull the newest version from the market again. While this stops the problem, it is not a true solution to the issue as we have yet to identify what is actually causing the usage.
Before wiping, could you post your settings for the app? And any information such as library size and the number of songs you have told Music to store locally would be helpful in identifying the cause.
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Thank you! I appreciate the help! What do you need for settings for the app? sorry! Im new to smart phones- so- I need to be walked through alot of this still! But- let me know any info you need and Ill be glad to get it for you. Thanks
That will reset the app to factory settings and allow you to pull the newest version from the market again. While this stops the problem, it is not a true solution to the issue as we have yet to identify what is actually causing the usage.
Before wiping, could you post your settings for the app? And any information such as library size and the number of songs you have told Music to store locally would be helpful in identifying the cause.
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I currently have 7172 songs on Google Music. I have not stored any songs locally so far. Today started my new billing cycle- and I did nothing with my phone except play 1 song- streamed from Google Music. My data went from 0.000 GB to 0.076 GB after only playing 1 song- that lasted probably about 4 and a half minutes. Pretty crazy. Last month- I used up 2 GB of data in 10 days- and maybe streamed about 30 minutes of music during that time. A Verizon rep told me it takes about 30 hours of streaming music to use up 1 GB of data. I dont know if thats true or not. But judging by what others using it are telling me- I have something WAY wrong. So- Im going to try the info from above to reinstall and see what happens. Thank you for all of your help- and let me know if I can be of any help with additional info.
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Ive also wondered if it may have something to do with my settings under music. I have a Razr- and everything is unchecked except "Download Via Wi-Fi- only" and "Cache music-temporarily store streamed music." Those were both already checked with the installation. Should I uncheck the "Cache music" box? Is it pulling down alot more data maybe to temporarily store streamed music? Just wondering about this too! Thanks again!
I were uploading about 2GB of music from my computer to Play Music, and when that was done my phone gave me a warning that the app Play Music had downloaded 2GB of data over 3G, now I can't use my 3G for three weeks... When I take a look at Play Music's data folder there's only about 100MB of songs, as there should be.
I had set the app to only download via WiFi, but stream via 3G. Why could this have happened? Since I only have 2GB of memory on the phone, and the used data hasn't increased, what happened really?
Thanks
I have noticed that when I first install a new ROM--GB, ICS, or JB, doesn't seem to matter--my phone runs lickety-split fast and is wonderful.
Over the course of a few days, though, it starts to become sluggish and laggy. When it starts to get extreme, the OS will frequently pop messages about "xxxxx is not responding. Would you like to close it?"
The only possible correlation I can discern is that this sluggish behavior seems to get worse when I install more apps. I am running the EXT4 unlimited data mod, and typically have ~200MB free in the /datadata partition. I think I start seeing the sluggishness when /datadata free space starts dropping into the 400-350MB range or so.
Have other folks noticed similar sluggishness? Has anyone else figured out what the trigger for it is, and how to avoid it?
I'd be curious to see people respond to the following questions:
1) Do you perceive your Inc to be generally "fast" or "sluggish"?
2) How much free space is in your /datadata partition? (Does anyone _not_ run the unlimited data mod these days?)
Thanks....
MysticCobra said:
I have noticed that when I first install a new ROM--GB, ICS, or JB, doesn't seem to matter--my phone runs lickety-split fast and is wonderful.
Over the course of a few days, though, it starts to become sluggish and laggy. When it starts to get extreme, the OS will frequently pop messages about "xxxxx is not responding. Would you like to close it?"
The only possible correlation I can discern is that this sluggish behavior seems to get worse when I install more apps. I am running the EXT4 unlimited data mod, and typically have ~200MB free in the /datadata partition. I think I start seeing the sluggishness when /datadata free space starts dropping into the 400-350MB range or so.
Have other folks noticed similar sluggishness? Has anyone else figured out what the trigger for it is, and how to avoid it?
I'd be curious to see people respond to the following questions:
1) Do you perceive your Inc to be generally "fast" or "sluggish"?
2) How much free space is in your /datadata partition? (Does anyone _not_ run the unlimited data mod these days?)
Thanks....
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I think mine is mostly fast. It sometimes bogs down, but usually recovers without reboots or fc's.
I am using the ext4 mod, and i have 243.44mb free in data/datadata at the moment.
MysticCobra said:
I'd be curious to see people respond to the following questions:
1) Do you perceive your Inc to be generally "fast" or "sluggish"?
2) How much free space is in your /datadata partition? (Does anyone _not_ run the unlimited data mod these days?)
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I do not use the unlimited data mod, I have been managing with a 150Mb /datadata partition. I don't use Facebook or Chrome, I know Chrome is a huge space hog and I've heard Facebook is too. For me the biggest downside of not using the nodatalimit mod is having to keep a decent number of apps on the sd card (some apps, when moved to SD, take their /datadata junk along with them), which makes mounting and unmounting it pretty slow, also slows down boot times. I rarely unmount the sd though, I typically copy stuff to and from an SMB share on my desktop computer - but I digress...
1. My dinc is pretty fast. I have seen more of the slowdown you describe on other people's phones and on my own phone with ICS/JB. (JB was especially bad when we had the bug where the CPU max frequency would get stuck at 614kHz). I ran Ice Cream Senseless for several months (which is GB/Sense themed and stripped), often saw uptimes of over 200 hours, and had zero problems with sluggishness or FC's.
2. Currently my phone storage partition shows:
/data 748M total, 223.7M used, 524.3M free
...and my /datadata partition shows:
/data/data 149M total, 117M used, 32M free
Titanium Backup gives a nice breakdown of how much storage apps are using, though it takes a very, very long time to calculate it.
the biggest space hogs for me is email(i have 4 accounts), facebook and a few you don;t have control over like Google Maps, Amazon App Store, Text messages, ect....So for me, I was easily exceeding 70-80 MB out of 150 for just data. Hence, once you get to below 20-30 mb free, the phone becomes unstable and in danger of going into a boot loop. I was able to use APP2SD Pro App to delete cache files occasionally but that was getting to be a tedious every day task.
Right now I at about 240-330 free of 750. About 70 MB seems to be stuff the Google Play Store caches so I have to clear that occasionally.
One thing I wonder if people are keeping track of-the Dinc and alot of older Android devices have only 512 mb of RAM. Some are worse and only 256mb. Installing programs even if not in use seems to load the programs in memory. if the memory manager does not kill these efficiently, you might get slow to sluggish behaviour. I am running OS Monitor on my phones and it does report that I have only about 45 mb of RAM free. the worst seems to happen when you are switching between apps alot-I think it;s possible for a 2nd or 3rd instance of a program to get loaded in memory temporarily. So I have removed as much from my installation as possible-stuff that should be benign like GMAIL just to prevent it from loading.
I don;t know any of this to be a fact though, I am just an end user sharing my experience.
Just an update on storage space issues, I recently installed a bunch of apps that had to reside in the phone memory. Checked in App2sd and it said I consumed about 600 of the 749 mb. I uninstalled the unnecessary stuff and cleared the cache. So I am sitting on 280 mb free now.
Without the low space fix ext4 mod, this would have been a FATAL situation resulting in a boot loop and needing a complete wipe and reset.
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Please someone help me. I have kodi installed on Firetv 2. The problem is that after a time on the firetv starts to run slow interface. It takes longer than usual to navigate between menus. This is also within the kodi, including the videos start to get locking. I do not know what else to do. To give factory reset already realized, without success. The only problem resolves when I restart the firetv. But after a reasonable time (5, 6 hours) the problem again. Some light?
Hi, @richardes - What do you see happen if you just run Amazon / FireTV stuff on your device instead of running Kodi? Does it slow down the same?
Also, what speeds do you see if you run a network speed test on your FireTV? (Maybe load the SpeedTest app)
¿GJ?
I installed a program called "raw maintenance". When opened click "clear cache" then "purge packages" then "delete thumbnails". Then close down KODI and re-open it. This doesn't delete anything except stuff that's slowing down your system. I do this about 2 to 3 times a week and my box runs just fine.
There is also a program named "Maintenance tool" which does the same thing and more. (there is no "delete thumbnails" though.)
Hi XDA,
First time posting so sorry if I'm missing anything.
I have had my OP 9PRO since this summer and have absolutely loved it so far however some time ago I had some problems with updating the phone as it appeared that update would never download. But after that, recently my phone just informed me that the phone is basically full which I'm suprised by as i do have a lot of photos on there, but no movies or anything anymore.
Is it possible that the updates actually HAVE downloaded and are chilling somewhere taking up space in a folder I cant easily see?
My phone is rooted so if i downloaded that update 10X, its about 30GB extra of storage probably.
Attached are 2 screenshots, 1 of the storage overview and 1 of the app storage overview as it says there's about 55 Gigs in there.
Thank you guys in advance!
I'm attempting to bump this topic, maybe someone can help me with this
1. Screenshot, shows how much a app (cache and data) use.
2. Screenshot, how much space is occupied.
I cant see any bug. 119 of 128GB is correct. If i calculate right, u are using 118.66GB
The app is old, but it works without any problem: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/ivan-volosyuk/diskusage/diskusage-4-0-2-release/
RheinPirat said:
1. Screenshot, shows how much a app (cache and data) use.
2. Screenshot, how much space is occupied.
I cant see any bug. 119 of 128GB is correct. If i calculate right, u are using 118.66GB
The app is old, but it works without any problem: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/ivan-volosyuk/diskusage/diskusage-4-0-2-release/
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Hi Rhein,
Thanks for your reply. this is the result from that app. As you can see, its simply the "media storage "app"" using all the 30GB of space that I am "missing". Would you know what could be causing it?
Thanks so much
I quote Joeeye from the Samsung forum, where someone else had the same question about "media storage"
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Media storage will just be a system app which monitors and reports all media data on your phone, ie camera video and photos, music, movies etc. You can't wipe it as it's an in built system app which isn't really taking much space. The 70GB I assume is an amalgamation of all your media files on the device.
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Media Storage consumes a lot of data
Hi, I realized that a Media Storage app consumes a lot of data - almost 70GB! I have no idea, what exactly it is. I googled and it should be some new system how to work with storage for applications but... which is inside, which application uses it so much and how can I reduce the amount of...
eu.community.samsung.com
or here
OnePlus Community
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I also found this:
The OnePlus Media Storage app is taking up too much damn storage, and no one knows why
Gobbling up over 100 GB on some people's phones
www.androidpolice.com
OnePlus 9 Pro 128GB, also storage problems.
I've read multiple topics about this issue and the only thing that works temporarily is to completely reset the phone to factory settings (wipe all data).
Tried the following things:
- Clear recently deleted files from gallery (not much there since update)
- Wipe Cache
- Wipe Data (full reset)
See attached screen shot of my system storage taking up too much space. I'm not feeling like wiping my phone every couple of months...
Any ideas to solve this bug?
Florissilfhout said:
OnePlus 9 Pro 128GB, also storage problems.
I've read multiple topics about this issue and the only thing that works temporarily is to completely reset the phone to factory settings (wipe all data).
Tried the following things:
- Clear recently deleted files from gallery (not much there since update)
- Wipe Cache
- Wipe Data (full reset)
See attached screen shot of my system storage taking up too much space. I'm not feeling like wiping my phone every couple of months...
Any ideas to solve this bug?
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Other people had this happen a long time ago they fixed it by using the msm tool
It will wipe your data you have so backup first
I used the MSM Tool and went completely back to stock. System storage (after restoring backup) is now on 8,8 GB. I will have to see if it stays there... Thanks for the suggestion.
EDIT:
Addition, I went to 11.2.4.4 from MSM, to 11.2.10.10 through OTA.
Is there any other solution except of using MSM Tool ? I just did factory reset recently, I'm not willing to do that again...
Thank you.
BTw, not good...
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...f-storage-how-do-i-solve-these-issue.1518111/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/system-storage-issue.1533556/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/system-storage-issue.1509797/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...how-188gb-any-solution-to-restore-it.1482320/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/storage-capacity-easily-getting-full.1474036/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/system-using-31-gb-space.1534439/
Yeah I found those topics as well.
In the meantime, my system storage has increased to 11GB (which would be within normal operating limits).
May I ask you how you have performed backup and restore? I don't believe there is some hassle free solotion...
I went old school:
Hooked my phone up to my computer with USB cable and file transfer; copied the folders Downloads, DCIM, and some other folder I thought important (Telegram for instance). For WhatsApp I created a backup from within the app to Google Drive. For phone settings I used the Backup&Restore function from Settings - System - Backup.
Oh and maybe make screenshots of your Home Screen pages, so you know which app (shortcut) you had where.
So no hassle free solution unfortunately.
Florissilfhout said:
I went old school:
Hooked my phone up to my computer with USB cable and file transfer; copied the folders Downloads, DCIM, and some other folder I thought important (Telegram for instance). For WhatsApp I created a backup from within the app to Google Drive. For phone settings I used the Backup&Restore function from Settings - System - Backup.
Oh and maybe make screenshots of your Home Screen pages, so you know which app (shortcut) you had where.
So no hassle free solution unfortunately.
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Is it fixed after the reset? Currently i have 60GB++ system
I did the same thing and it did fix it, i can recommend doing it.
I feel as if it's still increasing slightly, but less after the last update. I think 17GB for system is quite a lot, especially when there's also 17GB for 'other'?
I was just thinking the other day that I should perform the reset once more on this firmware version but you know... it takes time and effort.
You could try running SDMaid with root permissions and see if that clears things up.
I don't have it rooted anymore, just in case that was the issue. So that won't work for me unfortunately.
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I feel as if it's still increasing slightly, but less after the last update. I think 17GB for system is quite a lot, especially when there's also 17GB for 'other'?
I was just thinking the other day that I should perform the reset once more on this firmware version but you know... it takes time and effort.
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So this is weird... Just checked the size again and it has dropped down to 1,61GB!
Haven't done anything special. Rebooted the phone approximately 38 hours ago, nothing else.
linus tech tips uploaded a video about it.