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Guys, how are you?
I'm doing a little research around the next smartphone I'm going to buy and got interested on the Optimus G, it's really a great device with nice specs.
As I went further to know the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G, I learned that the Nexus 4 present a thermal throttling, often seen on the benchmark results as they're not as high as the OG in some apps.
Could you guys give me an insight if the Optimus G present the same behavior as the Nexus 4 regarding the thermal throttling?
Thanks in advance!
btk97 said:
Guys, how are you?
I'm doing a little research around the next smartphone I'm going to buy and got interested on the Optimus G, it's really a great device with nice specs.
As I went further to know the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G, I learned that the Nexus 4 present a thermal throttling, often seen on the benchmark results as they're not as high as the OG in some apps.
Could you guys give me an insight if the Optimus G present the same behavior as the Nexus 4 regarding the thermal throttling?
Thanks in advance!
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There is thermal throttling for Optimus G as well. But it is not "the same". AFAIK Nexus 4 gets a huge throttling as a result of the heat. As far as I remember this was explained with the missing parts helping to scatter the heat that were present in Optimus G while not present in Nexus 4. Anyway, this is not important, it is not the same. The throttling in OG does not really affect the performance of the device, while in Nexus 4 not only does it affect the performance, it also causes some restarts etc. Even If you think It affects the performance you can disable it using the service menu(3845#*975#) or LG Optimus G Tweaker app(Requires root) and experience no problems.
furkandeger said:
There is thermal throttling for Optimus G as well. But it is not "the same". AFAIK Nexus 4 gets a huge throttling as a result of the heat. As far as I remember this was explained with the missing parts helping to scatter the heat that were present in Optimus G while not present in Nexus 4. Anyway, this is not important, it is not the same. The throttling in OG does not really affect the performance of the device, while in Nexus 4 not only does it affect the performance, it also causes some restarts etc. Even If you think It affects the performance you can disable it using the service menu(3845#*975#) or LG Optimus G Tweaker app(Requires root) and experience no problems.
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Thanks man, you just solved my questions regarding the LG OG!
Your information will certainly help me decide my next device!
Thanks again!
btk97 said:
Thanks man, you just solved my questions regarding the LG OG!
Your information will certainly help me decide my next device!
Thanks again!
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You're welcome mate
You could also use the "thanks button", though :laugh:
It is kind of hot (also my sammy galaxy s3 worked like that), but you have so much power on your hands that you won't even bother. It has also thermal features this phone. For example if it gets hot, the brightness automatically reduces!
I am in the process of purchasing a moto 360. However I was reading a few reviews and they mentioned that the watch tends to behave differently with certain devices. For example, according to one review, the 360 works great on the Samsung s5 but not so well with g3. The user reported the watch constantly disconnecting on the g3. I have a g2, but i do not want to be struggling with stuff like this. Is anyone using the 360 with the lg g2? Can you share your thoughts, experiences and some feedback will be great.
Thanks
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I am in the process of purchasing a moto 360. However I was reading a few reviews and they mentioned that the watch tends to behave differently with certain devices. For example, according to one review, the 360 works great on the Samsung s5 but not so well with g3. The user reported the watch constantly disconnecting on the g3. I have a g2, but i do not want to be struggling with stuff like this. Is anyone using the 360 with the lg g2? Can you share your thoughts, experiences and some feedback will be great.
Thanks
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I have the moto 360 and LG G2. Both work as expected.
Robles23 said:
I am in the process of purchasing a moto 360. However I was reading a few reviews and they mentioned that the watch tends to behave differently with certain devices. For example, according to one review, the 360 works great on the Samsung s5 but not so well with g3. The user reported the watch constantly disconnecting on the g3. I have a g2, but i do not want to be struggling with stuff like this. Is anyone using the 360 with the lg g2? Can you share your thoughts, experiences and some feedback will be great.
Thanks
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I have the moto 360 and the LG G2 I must say though that the battery drains really fast on my G2. Im not going to keep it past xmas or whenever the moto x+1 comes out. The moto 360 does fine according to my standards on battery but my G2 is draining twice as fast as before even with my bluetooth headset streaming.
carajean said:
I have the moto 360 and the LG G2 I must say though that the battery drains really fast on my G2. Im not going to keep it past xmas or whenever the moto x+1 comes out. The moto 360 does fine according to my standards on battery but my G2 is draining twice as fast as before even with my bluetooth headset streaming.
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This is really good feedback. I am going to proceed and try to purchase one. I will try it out for a week since the return policy is 14 days. I will then decide if it's good enough to keep. I am dying to get my hands on a moto 360. Will try again this week. Ones again thanks for your feedback. If anybody else has anything else to share please don't hesitate. The more feedback the better.
So due to my Verizon contract situation (need to add a line for a family member anyway, don't have unlimited data) I have the option to get a Droid Turbo for $99 after rebate and give them my G3 instead of getting them a G3 or a Turbo for the same $99. In that situation, what are pros/cons of the two phones? My current thinking:
LG G3 Pros
1) Edge to edge screen gets you an extra 0.2" of real estate for same size phone
2) Removable battery (and I got a 2nd battery + charger from the promo by emailing LG)
3) Micro SD slot (for storing photos/video + caching majority of my Google Music)
4) I actually use the IR blaster for my projector/soundbar/cable box)
5) Thinner/lighter + good handfeel with curved back. I didn't like the 2nd gen Moto X when I held it, don't see how Turbo will be different unless I get the Ballistic Nylon backing
Droid Turbo Pros
1) Presumably smoother/less laggy between the 805 and close to stock Android. I don't really game on the phone but might start once things look pretty enough (do run Drastic's excellent DS emulator though, although that feels like it runs better on Tegra hardware)
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
3) Camera - 21MP is a beast, and 4K video is nice to have even if I probably won't use it at 24fps. I assume the Panoramas get fixed soon + can always use 3P app. I never got any value from the LG G3 laser focus and in fact thought the camera was one of the few unsatisfactory things about it
4) Battery life despite the "2 day" controversy. Also nice to have wireless charging/really fast charging. However, I already replaced the NFC with a Qi + NFC from Aliexpress on my G3
5) Ooh look it's new and shiny (this is currently the biggest reason I am considering switching, stupid I know)
6) For whatever reason, mic or connectivity, Moto seems to do better when it comes to call clarity, I find the G3 a step back from the G2, and if the Turbo is like the 2nd gen Moto X it will be better.
Question Marks:
1) Recent Verizon LG G3 bootloader unlock. Assume I can flash debloated Android 5.0 shortly and get a similar experience. Also worried that Turbo won't get unlock as Verizon exclusive limits dev community appeal somewhat
2) LG G3 corporate email (exchange) app was near unusable but seems to be a key fix in recent OTA (haven't taken yet). May be less of an issue with Exchange support in the Android 5.0 Gmail app (currently using Accompli, but it just came out of Beta and is still pretty unstable and doesn't always refresh consistently)
3) Screen - on one hand AMOLED but apparently brightness is pretty awful. I REALLY liked the G3 screen
4) Wifi ac - never got LG G3 to work right and I want to get value from my ac router, maybe Turbo will be better
5) Audio, not sure I love earpiece as speaker and low voltage headphones (I generally keep the volume all the way up when wearing IEMs with comply tips on flights - bad I know)
As you see from the endless replies, don't think anyone is going to talk you out of it.
All i have to say is - to me the DT is very very ugly - it looks almost akin to the Atrix 2 - *vomit*
And hardware buttons? - what is this 2009?
But whatever floats your boat.
. What were they thinking ... Holy Jesus on roller skates ! Its hideous ... No thanks .. G3 got me hooked
2SHAYNEZ
I bought the Turbo on release day, coming from the G3 and I plan to return it. I'm on my phone so can't type too much, but check out the Turbo sub-forum and you'll see many people complaining about worse WiFi performance, nylon issues with dirt, off-color and over saturated display, much worse camera, and only about the same battery life.
For me, the cellular radios are about the same within 1-2dBm, but WiFi is around 5-10dBm worse with the Turbo. The camera also is much worse, I made a G3 vs Turbo thread on the Turbo sub-forum, where I compared photos, they all lacked detail and weren't very good. Lots of people are complaining about the poor camera.
I also find the battery to be about the same as the G3, I was expecting significantly better.
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DROID Turbo:
LG G3:
DROID Turbo:
LG G3:
I call BS on Motorola radios being better.
DROID Turbo:
LG G3:
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Droid Turbo Pros
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
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G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)
There may be some legitimate reasons to,get the Turbo over the G3. But you didn't list any of them (like moto voice, car mode, etc, etc, etc). In fact, I think all the reasons you have listed have been debunked already.
Honestly it sounds like you just want the newest and shiniest thing - which is fine. But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.
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But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.
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That exactly !
All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!
KI_YOOU said:
All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!
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My d850 runs fine and no complaints here.. Glad I'm not one of the ones (which is most seems like ) that has a laggy phone ... I guess my setup skills are I'm good shape
2SHAYNEZ
That extra 1GB RAM might be the difference though.
Nexus 5
550mb used, 1,3GB free
LG G3 (16GB Orange version)
1,2GB Used, 603MB free
MalekoUK said:
G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)
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Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
It doesn't matter if the droid Turbo has a Snapdragon 805 processor (supposedly faster). If you don't optimize the phone settings it will still lag. My and my wife's D850 G3 doesn't have the lag so many here complain about. My Antutu test scores consistently in the 40ks with highest at 41252. Battery life as high as 50 hours between charge and that is with screen usage at 54% and SOT at 5 hrs 22 mins. I have gone 6 hrs 19 mins between charge with 21% battery remaining at 55% screen usage. Have over 50 apps installed on each G3.
Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?
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Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?
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Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.
Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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I agree that it will take forever for AT&T and Verizon to release official OTA. But as soon as the base version is released, ROM developers will work their magic to bring Lollipop to the other variations.
hwong96 said:
Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.
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Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?
Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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LG has already announced in several European countries (UK, Germany, etc.) that the Lollipop update will be on its way before the new year. Europe has the D855.
wtd03 said:
Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?
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Everything he has listed is just a click away ... He is still utilizing the phone fine ,its just battery saving tips dude lol ... Its not like he isn't using it ha ...
2SHAYNEZ
Hi everyone,
I need a suggestion for my next buy.
What's the smartwatch to work fine with us OPO?
Any tips?
Tx with OPO and actually FK r35
Emblema said:
Hi everyone,
I need a suggestion for my next buy.
What's the smartwatch to work fine with us OPO?
Any tips?
Tx with OPO and actually FK r35
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I have been using my pebble with it since I got my oneplus. Before that i had a Nexus 5 and no problems either
It is a really good option if you look for a good battery and plenty of apps.
L G watch!!! It worked perfectly with my g3 and oneplus
My Moto 360 has been working just fine.
I got a LG G watch R love it
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I've had a Pebble since the first Kickstarter units shipped, and recently switched to a Moto 360. You can't go wrong with either. I definitely prefer the Moto 360, but the Pebble is unbeatable for battery life.
Sony
I have a SmartWatch3 and it works perfectly well
I have a Zenwatch and it works perfectly with my OPO Only thing is that the smart lock feature thing eats up the battery, so I've turned that off and control the lockscreen from tasker.
I'm using an LG G Watch R and loving it l.
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Zenwatch with OPO has been wonderful.
I'm using a moto 360 for some time now, it works great, no errors.
I think that as long as you use an Android Wear watch, it will work just fine.
every smartwatch based on android wear will work fine for you! (and multiplatform ones, like pebble, just do not try the apple i watch *laughing*)
I've bought the opo and my G watch at the same time. Love both. All the android wear ones are basically the same. Just depends on the style you'd like more
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Avoid Samsung Gear watches. Some functions might work, but many will not.
Thanks all for your suggestions.
Definitely I will plan to buy a Sony smartwatch 3, maybe..
Tx with OPO and actually FK r35
Perfect with lg g watch r. Basically work with every android wear.
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G Watch R i highly recommend!
I have been using the motto 360 since it came out with my opo and i have zero issues
I recommend pebble
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I recommend pebble
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Looking some videos, the interface is not that beauty!.
Anyone think we will get this for our Moto 360's? I hope so.
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Already being discussed here.
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Already being discussed here.
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No, its been deleted.
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I dont think we are http://www.phonedog.com/2016/06/11/moto-360-1st-gen-wont-get-android-wear-20-update
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Is any dev gonna try to port it?
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Is any dev gonna try to port it?
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Gosh, I hope so. I seriously doubt Android Wear 2 is simply too strenuous on the processors to not be ported. I understand the TI processor in it is rather proprietary and no other Wear devices use it, but I can't believe Wear 2 would warrant new hardware.
I don't think I'll be able to buy another moto product again. I just don't trust them anymore to do things right. I own a nexus 6 and that has a screen flicker when charging, red tint on low brightness, and a speaker that crackles on low battery. I'm on my second moto 360 due to a cracked back (seriously glass back? Are you kidding me?) and the one I have now has a cracked back too after a few months. The first one was due to my wrist movements cracking it, and the second due to the metal band hitting the glass back. I hate apple products just because they are overpriced, have terrible batteries, and the screen is designed to break when dropped. HOWEVER, Apple is #1 at supporting their products until the very end with software updates and they never have an issue that isn't caused by user error (even tho the media says the bend on iphones is an issue, that only happens to the stupid people who throw their phones and sit their fat rear end on them constantly).
Hopefully one of you awesome developers out there ports it over for us. Otherwise I think I may be done with smart watches for a while. The only good looking one is the huawei watch but its too expensive and doesn't have 4g. The lg watch urbane has an LTE model... But it is ugly.
Oh android makers and their obcession with shooting themselves in the foot...
nascar48 said:
I don't think I'll be able to buy another moto product again. I just don't trust them anymore to do things right. I own a nexus 6 and that has a screen flicker when charging, red tint on low brightness, and a speaker that crackles on low battery. I'm on my second moto 360 due to a cracked back (seriously glass back? Are you kidding me?) and the one I have now has a cracked back too after a few months. The first one was due to my wrist movements cracking it, and the second due to the metal band hitting the glass back. I hate apple products just because they are overpriced, have terrible batteries, and the screen is designed to break when dropped. HOWEVER, Apple is #1 at supporting their products until the very end with software updates and they never have an issue that isn't caused by user error (even tho the media says the bend on iphones is an issue, that only happens to the stupid people who throw their phones and sit their fat rear end on them constantly).
Hopefully one of you awesome developers out there ports it over for us. Otherwise I think I may be done with smart watches for a while. The only good looking one is the huawei watch but its too expensive and doesn't have 4g. The lg watch urbane has an LTE model... But it is ugly.
Oh android makers and their obcession with shooting themselves in the foot...
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Moto support comes 2nd place in the worst support after Apple, now that lenovo owns Motorola. Things just went from bad to worse
"Motorola has confirmed that the original Moto 360 will not be receiving the Android Wear 2.0 update"
http://m.androidcentral.com/original-moto-360-will-not-receive-android-wear-20-update
As mentioned before; hopefully some developer will fix this anyway.
sohansonu said:
Moto support comes 2nd place in the worst support after Apple, now that lenovo owns Motorola. Things just went from bad to worse
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I would typically rip on Samsung and their lack of updates, but I really can't because their only android wear watch got the 1.5 update and they don't even support android wear anymore!
So does anyone have any plans to port 2.0 over?
I would be eternally grateful.
That's the support early adopters get from Motorola... none. Us users who had to go through cracked backplates, screen burns, software glitches and patches will not get further official support. Team Moto -10 points.
L4WL13T said:
So does anyone have any plans to port 2.0 over?
I would be eternally grateful.
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I second that! a ported ROM would be the dream, and the maker will be the king of Moto 360 fans!
jihadinhorocks said:
I second that! a ported ROM would be the dream, and the maker will be the king of Moto 360 fans!
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is not that easy.
main problem is that you would need to flash it through the factory cable (I think 2% moto 360 users have one)
second, this watch is based on TI OMAP cpu, and is the only one with this SoC. porting without a similar device is hell. and this porting would make happy 2% moto users. not worth
G watch is more likely going to have a porting, it has standard s400 SoC.
fortunately I never sold my g watch, battery and performance is much better than moto 360.....
go on guys, buy next one or wait for qualcom 2100 chips for wearables
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is not that easy.
main problem is that you would need to flash it through the factory cable (I think 2% moto 360 users have one)
second, this watch is based on TI OMAP cpu, and is the only one with this SoC. porting without a similar device is hell. and this porting would make happy 2% moto users. not worth
G watch is more likely going to have a porting, it has standard s400 SoC.
fortunately I never sold my g watch, battery and performance is much better than moto 360.....
go on guys, buy next one or wait for qualcom 2100 chips for wearables
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The cable is not that big of an issue: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3a2fdTy_6A
Howeve, what you described makes it sound really difficult. Still, if there's a will there is a way!
jihadinhorocks said:
The cable is not that big of an issue: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3a2fdTy_6A
Howeve, what you described makes it sound really difficult. Still, if there's a will there is a way!
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yeah, ok, I already got myself informed about it, but not anyone can make such connector, and even if he can, is so risky.....
throcker said:
is not that easy.
second, this watch is based on TI OMAP cpu, and is the only one with this SoC. porting without a similar device is hell. and this porting would make happy 2% moto users. not worth
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Only an issue if Wear 2.0 requires new kernel features. As long as the changes are only in userland, the specific SoC is not that big a deal.
Adding my voice to the choir, happy to contribute towards some smart Moto 360 hacker doing the port when the time comes.
I get that I can continue to use the watch with old firmware, but then I'd have different UI's on my different watches and it would get very confusing. I just want latest Wear on all of them. These ultra-short support cycles go against the grain especially for watches. Big thumbs down to Moto/Google on this one.
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Only an issue if Wear 2.0 requires new kernel features. As long as the changes are only in userland, the specific SoC is not that big a deal.
Adding my voice to the choir, happy to contribute towards some smart Moto 360 hacker doing the port when the time comes.
I get that I can continue to use the watch with old firmware, but then I'd have different UI's on my different watches and it would get very confusing. I just want latest Wear on all of them. These ultra-short support cycles go against the grain especially for watches. Big thumbs down to Moto/Google on this one.
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I wouldn't say it's short, it just hit the 2 years standard support. it's time to drop. maybe we bought it recently and we're disappointed (I bought it 6 months ago. and I felt a 6 month support) but is definitely not short