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[Q] Moto 360, Does allow you to abandon your Moto X for another Phone you want?

Sorry if in the wrong place. Please, mods, feel free to move it but I didn't feel like this belong in the Q&A section since it wasn't a technical issue.
But after learning about the Moto 360, I'm really considering getting rid of my Moto X for other phones that have more feature that I want. The Moto 360 seem to bring the always listening feature to any phone. As long as the new phone has a great battery life active display isn't really going to be the reason I stick with my Moto X.
Anyone else now thinking about a new phone? Or do you have distinc reason for pairing the 2 device together?

Good battery,
snappy performance,
pleasing and unique styling,
speedy os and software updates on verizon,
no ugly skin,
They are all good reasons to go for moto x over other phones ignoring the features that would be covered by a moto 360. I'm not interested in a 360 anyway, but if I were I doubt that would have any impact on my phone choice at the moment. I'm just not particularly excited about other options at the moment and I don't really find the moto x to lack performance. If you're really missing something like camera that is better elsewhere than I'd say it would probably be a pretty cool option to get cool moto software/hardware solutions with the 360 and eat your phone cake too.

Wants/needs. I personally want to wear as little on my body as possible in terms of electronics, so having a Moto X do all the things the watch can do on top on everything the phone itself can do is worth not having to buy the watch. I was even considering a wallet-case because of this. However if I found that I didn't care much for the special Moto X features, then that eliminates a lot of what makes the Moto X special and a reason against getting the watch. I can justify getting the watch if I had a fashion-statement to make that included watches, but otherwise I can't see myself picking up the watch whatsoever, even if the Moto X wasn't a factor.

I'd wait till moto x v2 comes out to make this decision depending on if they add in cool new features to the phone will determine if I buy from Motorola if not I'll wait till November and buy the next nexus phone
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LG G3 connecting to Moto

I read in an unboxing that the Moto 360 hates the LG G3 and could not get notifications working which concerns me as I use a G3. Anyone have this phone having issues? If so what issues?

That would suck if true I'm using a g3 till the x comes out. What would make it behave differently then the g watch? Motos connection app?

I am running a G3 rom on my G2 and get notifications no problem.

I'm using a G3 on T-Mobile and it works great.

Same here I have a T-Mobile g3 and no issues with the 360. Except for pitiful battery life. I also have the Samsung gear live. And use to the battery on it. Hoping it will get better as time goes by. My Samsung did so who knows. Loving the watch other than that.

T-Mobile G3 here, works 100% no issues at all. Right as I was writing this I actually got a notification, lol. It's all good!

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I have a T-Mobile G3 as well and the watch works great.....except...I did notice it has been draining my battery a lot more then my LG G Watch. With the G Watch I felt like my phone actually had better battery life since I wasn't pulling it out all the time, but now my G3 seems to draining much faster then it normally does.

Took a few extra attempts on my T-Mobile G3, but it's working like a charm now.

TMobile LG G3 here and it works just fine. no issues and that includes battery. It came off the dock at 8am this morning which was 12.5 hours ago and its at 74% battery life. I've used it quite a bit today. Lots of notifications, heart rate checks, etc. I've not experienced poor battery life on it yet and no, I haven't charged it during the day.

Does anyone use Hangouts for texting? do you know if notifications for texts within hangouts will show up through the M360?

Crazypinoy9 said:
Does anyone use Hangouts for texting? do you know if notifications for texts within hangouts will show up through the M360?
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I use hangouts for texting and it shows up and you can reply from the watch as well.

jrdejavux said:
I use hangouts for texting and it shows up and you can reply from the watch as well.
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I have a ATT G3 and use Hangouts for messaging - Everything works great so far, I can send and receive text right on the 360.

Verizon G3 here, just got my 360 last night. No issues yet. Receive texts, gmail and exchange emails.

Works flawless on my G3

azwraithmeow said:
I have a T-Mobile G3 as well and the watch works great.....except...I did notice it has been draining my battery a lot more then my LG G Watch. With the G Watch I felt like my phone actually had better battery life since I wasn't pulling it out all the time, but now my G3 seems to draining much faster then it normally does.
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I have noticed the same issue, today my Bluetooth consumed 38% of my battery. When I have had other blue tooth devices connected I have not noticed any battery drain. I wonder if there is an issue with Bluetooth LE on some of the G3s.

LG G3 and Moto 360
samg77 said:
I read in an unboxing that the Moto 360 hates the LG G3 and could not get notifications working which concerns me as I use a G3. Anyone have this phone having issues? If so what issues?
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All notifications work on my Moto 360 using my LG G3 855. Only issue is that you cannot reply with voice to texts on the moto 360. You have to use the hangouts in order for this to happen. Which sort of sucks

Also have a T-Mobile G3 and have had no issues with my 360. All notifications are pushed just fine.

michaeldanielbourke said:
All notifications work on my Moto 360 using my LG G3 855. Only issue is that you cannot reply with voice to texts on the moto 360. You have to use the hangouts in order for this to happen. Which sort of sucks
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I use evolve sms and can respond with voice from my 360 on my g3.

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Indeed, as you say,

i have a Rogers (canada) G3 and it works perfectly... i get all my cards, notifications from BBM, Hangouts, Whatsapp, Corporate Email, gmail, sunrise and stock calendar, incoming calls (can't talk through it obviously, but it helps when u have a BT headset)...
all is good ; > loving it.... and people notice it in here in Toronto ; >

[Q] Talk me out of switching from the G3 to a Droid Turbo

So due to my Verizon contract situation (need to add a line for a family member anyway, don't have unlimited data) I have the option to get a Droid Turbo for $99 after rebate and give them my G3 instead of getting them a G3 or a Turbo for the same $99. In that situation, what are pros/cons of the two phones? My current thinking:
LG G3 Pros
1) Edge to edge screen gets you an extra 0.2" of real estate for same size phone
2) Removable battery (and I got a 2nd battery + charger from the promo by emailing LG)
3) Micro SD slot (for storing photos/video + caching majority of my Google Music)
4) I actually use the IR blaster for my projector/soundbar/cable box)
5) Thinner/lighter + good handfeel with curved back. I didn't like the 2nd gen Moto X when I held it, don't see how Turbo will be different unless I get the Ballistic Nylon backing
Droid Turbo Pros
1) Presumably smoother/less laggy between the 805 and close to stock Android. I don't really game on the phone but might start once things look pretty enough (do run Drastic's excellent DS emulator though, although that feels like it runs better on Tegra hardware)
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
3) Camera - 21MP is a beast, and 4K video is nice to have even if I probably won't use it at 24fps. I assume the Panoramas get fixed soon + can always use 3P app. I never got any value from the LG G3 laser focus and in fact thought the camera was one of the few unsatisfactory things about it
4) Battery life despite the "2 day" controversy. Also nice to have wireless charging/really fast charging. However, I already replaced the NFC with a Qi + NFC from Aliexpress on my G3
5) Ooh look it's new and shiny (this is currently the biggest reason I am considering switching, stupid I know)
6) For whatever reason, mic or connectivity, Moto seems to do better when it comes to call clarity, I find the G3 a step back from the G2, and if the Turbo is like the 2nd gen Moto X it will be better.
Question Marks:
1) Recent Verizon LG G3 bootloader unlock. Assume I can flash debloated Android 5.0 shortly and get a similar experience. Also worried that Turbo won't get unlock as Verizon exclusive limits dev community appeal somewhat
2) LG G3 corporate email (exchange) app was near unusable but seems to be a key fix in recent OTA (haven't taken yet). May be less of an issue with Exchange support in the Android 5.0 Gmail app (currently using Accompli, but it just came out of Beta and is still pretty unstable and doesn't always refresh consistently)
3) Screen - on one hand AMOLED but apparently brightness is pretty awful. I REALLY liked the G3 screen
4) Wifi ac - never got LG G3 to work right and I want to get value from my ac router, maybe Turbo will be better
5) Audio, not sure I love earpiece as speaker and low voltage headphones (I generally keep the volume all the way up when wearing IEMs with comply tips on flights - bad I know)

As you see from the endless replies, don't think anyone is going to talk you out of it.

All i have to say is - to me the DT is very very ugly - it looks almost akin to the Atrix 2 - *vomit*
And hardware buttons? - what is this 2009?
But whatever floats your boat.

. What were they thinking ... Holy Jesus on roller skates ! Its hideous ... No thanks .. G3 got me hooked
2SHAYNEZ

I bought the Turbo on release day, coming from the G3 and I plan to return it. I'm on my phone so can't type too much, but check out the Turbo sub-forum and you'll see many people complaining about worse WiFi performance, nylon issues with dirt, off-color and over saturated display, much worse camera, and only about the same battery life.
For me, the cellular radios are about the same within 1-2dBm, but WiFi is around 5-10dBm worse with the Turbo. The camera also is much worse, I made a G3 vs Turbo thread on the Turbo sub-forum, where I compared photos, they all lacked detail and weren't very good. Lots of people are complaining about the poor camera.
I also find the battery to be about the same as the G3, I was expecting significantly better.
Sent from my Droid Turbo

DROID Turbo:
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I call BS on Motorola radios being better.
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empiremaster23 said:
Droid Turbo Pros
2) Should get Android 5.0 really quickly
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G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)

There may be some legitimate reasons to,get the Turbo over the G3. But you didn't list any of them (like moto voice, car mode, etc, etc, etc). In fact, I think all the reasons you have listed have been debunked already.
Honestly it sounds like you just want the newest and shiniest thing - which is fine. But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.

sic0048 said:
But I bet you end up giving the Turbo to your family member and keeping the G3.
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That exactly !

All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!

KI_YOOU said:
All i have to say is that G3 (2GB RAM) performs a lot worse that my Nexus 5, even Moto G (1st Gen) runs better with no lag at all. To me, this is absolutely outrageous for a high end phone in 2014. Id say Moto with that 805 chip is a clear winner!
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My d850 runs fine and no complaints here.. Glad I'm not one of the ones (which is most seems like ) that has a laggy phone ... I guess my setup skills are I'm good shape
2SHAYNEZ

That extra 1GB RAM might be the difference though.
Nexus 5
550mb used, 1,3GB free
LG G3 (16GB Orange version)
1,2GB Used, 603MB free

MalekoUK said:
G3 should also get this soon! (before end 2014)
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Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.

It doesn't matter if the droid Turbo has a Snapdragon 805 processor (supposedly faster). If you don't optimize the phone settings it will still lag. My and my wife's D850 G3 doesn't have the lag so many here complain about. My Antutu test scores consistently in the 40ks with highest at 41252. Battery life as high as 50 hours between charge and that is with screen usage at 54% and SOT at 5 hrs 22 mins. I have gone 6 hrs 19 mins between charge with 21% battery remaining at 55% screen usage. Have over 50 apps installed on each G3.

Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?

KI_YOOU said:
Could you share your type of optimization you have been using?
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Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.

Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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I agree that it will take forever for AT&T and Verizon to release official OTA. But as soon as the base version is released, ROM developers will work their magic to bring Lollipop to the other variations.

hwong96 said:
Sure.
Turn off auto sync. Fetch your email manually. Sync your accounts manually.
Turn off location. If you must use location set to wifi network.
Turn off Google location reporting in location setting.
Turn off quick circle if not using quick circle case.
Turn off NFC, smartbeam, android beam when not using them.
Set display to 60% auto.
I don't use Facebook. My wife does, but she signs in & out when done.
I don't play games on G3. I have tablets for that.
I watch HD and 4k videos on YouTube.
I watch movies previews on Flixster.
Main uses of G3 are call, messaging, emails, YouTube, Flixster, camera, OfficeSuite Pro.
Hope this helps. Back to the regular scheduled thread topic.
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Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?

Billy Madison said:
Nope, I bet that before the end 2014 L will only come to F400 owners, whereas D85* owners will get L not before MWC in february 2015. The G2 in last year was treated the same.
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LG has already announced in several European countries (UK, Germany, etc.) that the Lollipop update will be on its way before the new year. Europe has the D855.

wtd03 said:
Gheesh why even buy a smartphone if you don't even use the features of the phone or android?
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Everything he has listed is just a click away ... He is still utilizing the phone fine ,its just battery saving tips dude lol ... Its not like he isn't using it ha ...
2SHAYNEZ

G4 as slow as my G3

Ok. Guys please don't take offense to this. I LOVE lg and commend them for keeping removable battery and expandable memory. Kudos to them.
I recently swappa'd from the g3 to the g4. At first the difference was great. Huge difference in camera shutter speed. But now my camera freezes half the time in manual mode. Also I have tried with greenify and amplify and without and the phone lags like crazy and gps is always running when it shouldn't be. Even with google.com now disabled it still polls gps.
Granted it has no impact on my battery drain and I'm glad that the g4 has a faster gps lock than the g3. I am probably just being picky here... And truthfully I can't complain. I sold my g3 with box, vr kit, spare battery kit, 3 cases including rare slim guard cch320g, sold for $160 in 45 mins. Lol I wanted to give someone a deal because I had a highly motivated seller that sold this g4 with $90 mugen battery, stock spare battery, 2 cases (a $30 uag), and original box for $230.
All in all yes I would buy this over again and for under $100 difference I have no right to complain....but why do I feel no significant difference? I had my g3 since launch and my previous phone was a droid maxx.
Sorry but going from a blackberry tour to a droid 2 was so awesome. As well as droid 2 to galaxy nexus thanks to SwiftKey. Galaxy nexus to razr maxx hd was amazing. Razr Maxx hd to droid maxx was equally awesome thanks to bootloader unlock.
Droid maxx to lg g3.....I dunno. I felt jipped. Motorola had better radios for sure. But I began to enjoy lg and it's camera.
I played with a v10 yesterday for an hour. I am shocked at the difference in speed because the only difference is more ram really. The speed difference could be in my head? Idk this g4 lags when switching between apps, typing on Google search, etc. I have tried different keyboards and it changes nothing. Even adapting the searching of apps history etc. So slow!
I am not a person that spends more time on the phone. I use a Windows 8 laptop significantly more than a phone. I don't play games of any kind.
Help!

I switched from nexus 4 to lg g3. I was never happy. G3 to me was slow and laggy. I upgraded to G4 and will say that was the true upgrade. It is fast and snappy. I have to admit lg g3 after lollipop update seemed fast. I still own all phones but G4 is the best, would never use G3 back again. From the development point of view Nexus 4 was and still is the best. Hopefully an update to mm will solve problem for you.

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I switched from nexus 4 to lg g3. I was never happy. G3 to me was slow and laggy. I upgraded to G4 and will say that was the true upgrade. It is fast and snappy. I have to admit lg g3 after lollipop update seemed fast. I still own all phones but G4 is the best, would never use G3 back again. From the development point of view Nexus 4 was and still is the best. Hopefully an update to mm will solve problem for you.
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We'll see. If not I dunno what I'll do. Even a note 4 dev edition isn't going to be much different.
I guess I'd get a 6p and a battery case when it comes out by zero lemon.
Wish we'd get some roms....

switch to Z2 Play, any good?

Hi all,
i'm contemplating a change of phones. From LG G4 to Motorola Moto Z2 Play because i could get a pretty nice deal on it. I would like to ask the community here for their opinions. I already saw that is has an overall good rating. Questions are, is there anything i should be aware of if i switch? How's the ROM, bloatware wise? Heat issues, battery issues, GPS issues, known problems and so on. LG G4 has a lot of them and im kinda tired of them, although i love the camera and the GPS precision. Any input is welcomed
Thanks!

The ROM is virtually stock Android. There is no bloatware. Just a couple Moto apps that I think are quite useful.
I ahev experienced no heat issues. My previous DD was a Moto X Pure and that joker got hot.
The battery is awesome. I've not ever experienced this kind of life.
I have not had any GPS or other issues.
Some say the camera is not wonderful, but it functions well enough for me. Afterall, I'm more interested in the radio, since it is a phone with a camera, as opposed to a camera with a phone.
Below is my review, stacking it against the Moto X4. I've had it 5 months now and still feel the same. I love it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75005756&postcount=5

I just downgraded (so to speak) from the S8 to the Z2 Play. No regret whatsoever. The only thing I have to get used to is the lower resolution. Other than that, it's a solid mid-range phone (physically as opposed to glass, and as a device) that feels like a flagship (bar the aforementioned screen resolution).
If you like stock Android I doubt you'll regret it.

Prosis said:
I just downgraded (so to speak) from the S8 to the Z Play. No regret whatsoever. The only thing I have to get used to is the lower resolution. Other than that, it's a solid mid-range phone (physically as opposed to glass, and as a device) that feels like a flagship (bar the aforementioned screen resolution).
If you like stock Android I doubt you'll regret it.
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This thread is for the Z2 Play

Yeah that's what I meant sorry. I have the Z2 Play.

thanks for your replies!

I had a handful of g4s. They all went bad and a 5x too. Camera on the g4 was stunning. Low light with the ois was amazing. The hardware was otherwise garbage but looked gorgeous. The LG software was fabulous if you use it in a work environment where you need solid MS exchange services. Asop exchange sucks. Motorola also has solid exchange support. I'm going to say Motorola builds the most durable hardware of any smartphone except the really old blackberries. Moto has been my choice for years. The problem with Moto had always been the cameras. They were horrible. I had the z play and it was barely adequate. Every Moto phone before that was bad too but everything else was so solid that I was willing to look past it.
The Z2 play has a decent camera and you likely will be happy with it. The sd626 is fast for a low power processor. On par with the 808. I would look for an unlockable bl version vs the Verizon one. Custom covers and Moto mods give a bit of the g4 style. Battery life will be similar to the g4. USB c support means super fast charging and you can plug flash drives in, with an adapter. You can merge the internal storage with an SD card for one huge partition as well. The finger print sensor can double as nav keys for more screen space.

I've owned also a G4 long time ago. I will say battery it's way better on the Z2P and the stock Android experience you don't experience any lag. You will ensure many updates on time.
Now regarding back camera, Z2P it's above average but not comparable with G4 which has very good performance. For front camera Z2P it's better.
Fingerprint works great.

Unfortunately i probably wont get the z2 play anymore. Turns out im not eligible for the promotion due to the fact that im not employed for at least 6months at my current employer. Now i hope this promotion will last for another 2-3 months. By then nokia 7 plus will be out and i cant decide between this 2...

magiQx said:
Unfortunately i probably wont get the z2 play anymore. Turns out im not eligible for the promotion due to the fact that im not employed for at least 6months at my current employer. Now i hope this promotion will last for another 2-3 months. By then nokia 7 plus will be out and i cant decide between this 2...
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That's a shame!
I came here to add another point. If you're someone who enjoys running the latest software then don't go with Motorola. Oreo came out 6 months ago and it's not even on the horizon right now. Motorola's gone down Samsung level of suck with updates but Samsung at least has the excuse of having a complex version. I don't know what Lenovo's doing honestly. That would be my main gripe.

Prosis said:
That's a shame!
I came here to add another point. If you're someone who enjoys running the latest software then don't go with Motorola. Oreo came out 6 months ago and it's not even on the horizon right now. Motorola's gone down Samsung level of suck with updates but Samsung at least has the excuse of having a complex version. I don't know what Lenovo's doing honestly. That would be my main gripe.
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That was one reason why i wanted this phone. Near stock OS and i thought they are better with delivering updates. Guess Nokia would be a better compromise then?

magiQx said:
That was one reason why i wanted this phone. Near stock OS and i thought they are better with delivering updates. Guess Nokia would be a better compromise then?
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From what I can tell it's not really a compromise. They seem to be pretty solid devices. If Nokia sold them in my country I'd get one of them. Stock Android, good updates and a great camera. Motorola has good competition there.
Since Lenovo bought Motorola they've been bad at updates. When Moto was owned by Google up until late 2015 they were way better. They have near stock Android, it shouldn't be that long.

Prosis said:
From what I can tell it's not really a compromise. They seem to be pretty solid devices. If Nokia sold them in my country I'd get one of them. Stock Android, good updates and a great camera. Motorola has good competition there.
Since Lenovo bought Motorola they've been bad at updates. When Moto was owned by Google up until late 2015 they were way better. They have near stock Android, it shouldn't be that long.
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guess ill have to wait and see, since i have to forcefully wait another 3 months... Then I'll check the market again.