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[Q] Rooting

I have stock ROM installed and stock recovery and I want to keep that way.
So my questions is, is it possible to root my device while keeping everything stock and get OTA updates without problems.
The only thing I need rooting for is to use Market Enabler.

You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.

omar_bazaraa said:
You need to flash a custom recovery to root your phone but that won't enable your phone to get OTA udates (only notification), so when you get an update notification you have to reflash your stock recovery and unroot your phone to apply OTA updates.
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If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.

Slaxington said:
If you wanted to unroot and so flash a stock recovery, how would you know which one to use? Is there a set recovery for each version of the phone, or is it the software version? So you'd just get the latest version you can find? For the phone of course. Thanks.
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Flash the stock recovery of the software version your on
sent from my One X using xda venom premium

Read the portal news, http://www.xda-developers.com/android/root-many-ics-and-jelly-bean-android-devices/
A dev just release exploit based rooting method, you might wanna to try it since you wish to keep stock recovery.
However, you might loose root access after OTA as they always patch the root access back. Simply use some root keeper or method from above(if working) to gain back root access.
UPDATES: seems we have solid devices, LINK. You may try it, though.

[Q] Stock rooted with CWM. What are my options for getting the new OTA?

Thanks for helping out an Android noob. I recently rooted and installed CWM recovery. This is my first OTA update since doing so and I haven't been able to find any clear instructions on what to do.
I assume there are a few options - I'd love to hear what they are and what advantages/disadvantages each has. I'm assuming I can unroot and go totally stock but I'm not really sure how to flash a stock recovery. I've also read that using OTA Rootkeeper is a great way to temp unroot then reroot after the OTA. I'm a little confused since I see a similar option in the SuperUser app - does that work as well?
I also am wondering if there will be a CWM flashable package in the near future that we can use and if it's worth waiting for something like that?
Thanks again.

There's a thread here discussing the OTA and how people are installing it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893036
I am running rooted stock (without CWM) and I simply used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and then did the update. Since you have CWM, I think you've got a few additional steps.

rickwood said:
There's a thread here discussing the OTA and how people are installing it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893036
I am running rooted stock (without CWM) and I simply used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and then did the update. Since you have CWM, I think you've got a few additional steps.
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Thanks but I've been following that thread - there aren't any instructions just comments on personal situations. I'm sure there are many like me who need a bit of a guide for this specific situation. It definitely sounds easier without CWM - I'm surprised I can't find any clear instructions on how to revert to stock recovery.

You can get the OTA as long as your are running a stock ROM! or worst case scenario you just have to update through Kies!!

Use odin to install stock rooted image and recovery. Then get voodoo ota rootkeeper from the play store. Run it to preserve root. Check for software update. Install update. Restore root with rootkeeper. Reinstall custom recovery. Done.

kjpedro said:
You can get the OTA as long as your are running a stock ROM! or worst case scenario you just have to update through Kies!!
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From what I understand you need to unroot to get the OTA - though Kies might be a workaround.
I'm specifically talking about rooted WITH CWM. You cannot get the OTA without stock recovery (based on what I've read).

gunnyman said:
Use odin to install stock rooted image and recovery. Then get voodoo ota rootkeeper from the play store. Run it to preserve root. Check for software update. Install update. Restore root with rootkeeper. Reinstall custom recovery. Done.
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Thanks gunny! Do you lose apps/settings when flashing back to stock rooted/recovery or is everything preserved?

Surprising to me nothing was lost.

rooting and ota

Hi,
I might sound dumb but will I be ablle to get OTA updates if I install custom recovery and root.

thechamp007 said:
Hi,
I might sound dumb but will I be ablle to get OTA updates if I install custom recovery and root.
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No. OTA updates require stock recovery. However, you can revert to stock recovery and unroot as you please. Also, you can flash OTA updates through TWRP once a flashable zip is made, except you have to download it and flash it manually, just like installing a custom ROM. Cheers.
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I received the last update through OTA on a rooted Stock ROM with TWRP installed.
After the install was finished TWRP asked if I wanted to restore the root. All went smoothly.
To clarify.. I did not flash the ROM. I used the normal OTA update.

tigerdim said:
I received the last update through OTA on a rooted Stock ROM with TWRP installed.
After the install was finished TWRP asked if I wanted to restore the root. All went smoothly.
To clarify.. I did not flash the ROM. I used the normal OTA update.
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I believe you can on small point updates. The full update from 4.3 to 4.4 most likely won't work with a custom recovery.

nbehary said:
I believe you can on small point updates. The full update from 4.3 to 4.4 most likely won't work with a custom recovery.
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you must have stock /system folder + stock recovery
you can be rooted, by if you delete some files in /system - you break your ota
new ota will be with new radio too
after ota super-su apk will be removed by the ota
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i restored /system apps from sdcard before 4.3 ota and migrate very well from 4.2.2

The ota 4.3 update removed my root and Twrp. Hope 4.4 doesn't do the same. It's always a pain for me to restore root with my Windows 7 laptop. It keeps installing the wrong usb drivers which get in the way of the wugfresh toolkit access to the nexus 7. So it's no easy task for me.

Questions

I got 2013 nexus 7 WiFi with ,5.1.1 lollipop, I rooted it with chainfire, its rooted now and unlock boot. Working all good, I have not got a custom reocvrry? Is that fine? And also will ota updates work? If I update will my root go ?

You don't need a custom recovery. You will only need it if you want to flash a zip. You will need to do that to for example install s custom Rom og kernel.
Since you have rooted your phone you will no longer be able to get OTA updates. If you want to get them you will need to unroot first. To do that open the SuperSU app. Then choose settings and then full unroot. After you do that and reboot you should be able to get OTA updates again. If you install a custom recovery or ROM tho, you will need to go back to full stock as well to use OTA.

If I unroot then I need to do root again by auto root chain fire? And also the latest update is 5.1.1 so when next update? I mean on the nexus 2013 7 is there no last update?

Rucka said:
If I unroot then I need to do root again by auto root chain fire? And also the latest update is 5.1.1 so when next update? I mean on the nexus 2013 7 is there no last update?
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in less than a week the nexus 7 2013 will be updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow. as long as you have an unlocked boot loader you should have no problem getting root again. you could try cf autoroot but I would either use the Nexus Root Toolkit or fastboot to obtain root again

SM-T800 Rooted & Want to Update

I used the method from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/guide-how-to-root-tripping-knox-kitkat-t3129484 to root my SM-T800. So I'm on BOE3 right now with root. I want to update to BOJ1 and keep root.
When I do an update check, it tells me that I can't update because my device is modified. How do I get the update and keep root? Is there a guide that I have overlooked?
Thank you for the help.

I have noticed that the updater refuses to work not only when you have root, but sometimes even when you have TWRP installed without root. Anyways.. there are many options there, but I have no idea if they work without tripping knox bit (who cares about it anyways?).
The first thing you can try is to run the full unroot procedure from inside of supersu. This will remove root, and then you can try to install OTA update again. If that still doesn't work, you can backup your data, flash the KitKat ROM with odin, and then install OTA update. Or alternatively, just flash the latest Lollipop image (this will lose all your data and mods, and trip the knox).

Akopps said:
I have noticed that the updater refuses to work not only when you have root, but sometimes even when you have TWRP installed without root. Anyways.. there are many options there, but I have no idea if they work without tripping knox bit (who cares about it anyways?).
The first thing you can try is to run the full unroot procedure from inside of supersu. This will remove root, and then you can try to install OTA update again. If that still doesn't work, you can backup your data, flash the KitKat ROM with odin, and then install OTA update. Or alternatively, just flash the latest Lollipop image (this will lose all your data and mods, and trip the knox).
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Unless I'm misunderstanding, won't that make me lose root? I want to keep root.

All you need do is flash the firmware with FLASHFIRE. You will then keep root without tripping knox.
See the kingroot guide for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3129484

micheal1981 said:
Unless I'm misunderstanding, won't that make me lose root? I want to keep root.
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Once you update to the latest ROM, then you can get root again, by flashing cf-autoroot or something else. (Again, this will set off the knox bit, but it's useless anyways)

ashyx said:
All you need do is flash the firmware with FLASHFIRE. You will then keep root without tripping knox.
See the kingroot guide for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3129484
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OK. I just wasn't 100% sure that method would work for the newest update. Time to find where to download the latest firmware.

Alright, I flashed BOJ1 with Flashfire and I still have root. My bootloader says BOE3. Do I need to flash the BOJ1 bootloader? I believe the answer is yes, but just want to make sure.

micheal1981 said:
Alright, I flashed BOJ1 with Flashfire and I still have root. My bootloader says BOE3. Do I need to flash the BOJ1 bootloader? I believe the answer is yes, but just want to make sure.
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If everything works then no, but may as well if you want the latest.