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So yeah, I did it again, I've lost my phone. Please flame me.
The other day I was at concert in Turin (Dropkick Murphys, wohoo), and probably due to the fact that I was right in front of the stage, drunk like hell and dancing like a fool for a couple hours I've lost my phone in the middle of the crazy-jumping-punching crowd. No chance, I couldn't find it anywhere after the show, and looking for it while it was still going would have been like looking for a quick but painful death, it must have been totally destroyed after a few seconds anyway. So when I got home I called my carrier and blocked my number, then (smart as hell) I tried tracking/blocking my phone on windowsphone.com, but that didn't work. Yesterday I went to the police station so that I was able to report the fact in order to be able to get a new sim-card with my old number from my carrier. That's it, now I'm still pissed but I can handle it.
Anyway, here are some (probably pretty lame) questions. Now I got my phone blocked via IMEI and I have my number, so that's quite fine, but what about the data I had on my phone? In particular, what about the apps I bought and stuff like that? In the coming weeks I'm getting paid for a random work I did so I'll be definitely getting another WP7 device, but I still don't know much about this platform so I don't know how this works. On Android when I switched phone I had all my apps, contacts and stuff linked to my Google account and I've never lost a thing, how does that work here exactly?
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vnvman said:
So yeah, I did it again, I've lost my phone. Please flame me.
The other day I was at concert in Turin (Dropkick Murphys, wohoo), and probably due to the fact that I was right in front of the stage, drunk like hell and dancing like a fool for a couple hours I've lost my phone in the middle of the crazy-jumping-punching crowd. No chance, I couldn't find it anywhere after the show, and looking for it while it was still going would have been like looking for a quick but painful death, it must have been totally destroyed after a few seconds anyway. So when I got home I called my carrier and blocked my number, then (smart as hell) I tried tracking/blocking my phone on windowsphone.com, but that didn't work. Yesterday I went to the police station so that I was able to report the fact in order to be able to get a new sim-card with my old number from my carrier. That's it, now I'm still pissed but I can handle it.
Anyway, here are some (probably pretty lame) questions. Now I got my phone blocked via IMEI and I have my number, so that's quite fine, but what about the data I had on my phone? In particular, what about the apps I bought and stuff like that? In the coming weeks I'm getting paid for a random work I did so I'll be definitely getting another WP7 device, but I still don't know much about this platform so I don't know how this works. On Android when I switched phone I had all my apps, contacts and stuff linked to my Google account and I've never lost a thing, how does that work here exactly?
Sorry for the dumb questions...
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If you go to my phone on windowsphone.com - and your account you will have the list of apps you installed. It might look a little painful process as not all apps and settings are going to restored by a single click. Settings - manually. Apps - one by one. Also if you had any unlocks they are gone! So all those side loading apps, won't be there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But see the positive - it looks like you had a good night

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If you go to my phone on windowsphone.com - and your account you will have the list of apps you installed. It might look a little painful process as not all apps and settings are going to restored by a single click. Settings - manually. Apps - one by one. Also if you had any unlocks they are gone! So all those side loading apps, won't be there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But see the positive - it looks like you had a good night
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Thanks for the tips, I feel better already. Too bad for sideloaded apps, but that was something I expected. I only had the basic windowbreak unlock so that's not too bad. The only thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't in the mood for an upgrade at all right now, the phone worked fine and the day I've lost it I had just received my brand new case...I was already saving money for some superphone releasing in Q4. Oh well, I guess this is what you get for being a reckless fool...you're right tho, that was some real fun

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Thanks for the tips, I feel better already. Too bad for sideloaded apps, but that was something I expected. I only had the basic windowbreak unlock so that's not too bad. The only thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't in the mood for an upgrade at all right now, the phone worked fine and the day I've lost it I had just received my brand new case...I was already saving money for some superphone releasing in Q4. Oh well, I guess this is what you get for being a reckless fool...you're right tho, that was some real fun
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I would recommend since it's your temporary replacement, probably get some second-hand Samsung phone on which Windowsbreak works. That way you can be sideloading in no time and have some money for the super Apollo!

drupad2drupad said:
I would recommend since it's your temporary replacement, probably get some second-hand Samsung phone on which Windowsbreak works. That way you can be sideloading in no time and have some money for the super Apollo!
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I'd second that, also the LG Optimus 7 costs about 140€ here right now, that's pretty cheap for a new phone, but it has that fugly LCD...anyway a friend of mine rocking a brand new Lumia 800 (Cyan) is teasing me like hell. Maan, that phone is overpriced...I have to...resist...ugh!
I'm using my old Nokia N70 now, it owns!

vnvman said:
I'd second that, also the LG Optimus 7 costs about 140€ here right now, that's pretty cheap for a new phone, but it has that fugly LCD...anyway a friend of mine rocking a brand new Lumia 800 (Cyan) is teasing me like hell. Maan, that phone is overpriced...I have to...resist...ugh!
I'm using my old Nokia N70 now, it owns!
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Nice thing about LG is that it has a registry editor built in, so it is easy to dev unlock yourself.
Plus you can do any other tweaks, such as real instant resume and fix the blue tooth audio for video issue.
Real instant resume keeps the app in actual memory, so when you go back to it, it does not need to rehydrate. Negative of course, is that you need to make sure to back out of apps that you don't want consuming your memory.

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Nice thing about LG is that it has a registry editor built in, so it is easy to dev unlock yourself.
Plus you can do any other tweaks, such as real instant resume and fix the blue tooth audio for video issue.
Real instant resume keeps the app in actual memory, so when you go back to it, it does not need to rehydrate. Negative of course, is that you need to make sure to back out of apps that you don't want consuming your memory.
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Not to mention the bad impact it has on battery life.

When will Speaker be activated? !

When will the new 1.4 update drop on our Huawei watch? This is getting old. How long does it take? seriously I want the speaker to already be functional. Hate asking the watch something only for it to just show me not speak it to me like a "SMART WATCH" SHOULD!.
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All indications are pointing towards March/April at the latest.

i want march no later pls

I agree. The speaker in this watch, made this watch the only option for me, when looking for my first smartwatch. ( i wanted round) I hope it don't sound crappy.

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i want march no later pls
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OK. Done!

I've went as far as registering for huawei's own community forums and as well and everyday tweeting to @huaweiDeviceUSA to get any kind of update. As of now there have been no responses but I encourage others to try as well. Ever since the one guy leaked the update it's been talked about a lot and of course with the 2 newer higher end watches being making their debut as CES already with this functionality built in it seems it must be close. I'd rather have a timeline of "sometime in X-month" then just flat out not knowing. But we all know that won't happen...

When it is released, it is released.
If it takes 2 or 3 more months ..... ok
If Android Wear is never updated again, oh well.
I can do nothing and do not care much.

Tomorrow at 630
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I received a DM on Twitter from @huaweiDeviceUSA when i asked them about the update. The reply was the following
"Hello Michael, the update that activates the speaker on the Huawei watch is slowing being releases to customers. Please be patient with us as this update is disbursed. (Al)"
I did reply saying no one has reported receiving the update and asked if there is a timeline when the roll out should be complete. We'll see if there is a response

By "Slowly" do they mean one watch a day [emoji1]
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Und3adShr3d said:
By "Slowly" do they mean one watch a day [emoji1]
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funny....that was my thought. I wish they would roll at full force by mid-feb or within 2 weeks or something. Not an exact date but at least a certain time frame instead of such an answer that will only spark a more loaded question

Franzie3 said:
funny....that was my thought. I wish they would roll at full force by mid-feb or within 2 weeks or something. Not an exact date but at least a certain time frame instead of such an answer that will only spark a more loaded question
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I suppose it makes sense for them to trickle the update rather than flood the consumer base with it in case something happens but I would expect it to go live before the Jewel and elegance models drop.
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Franzie3 said:
I received a DM on Twitter from @huaweiDeviceUSA when i asked them about the update. The reply was the following
"Hello Michael, the update that activates the speaker on the Huawei watch is slowing being releases to customers. Please be patient with us as this update is disbursed. (Al)"
I did reply saying no one has reported receiving the update and asked if there is a timeline when the roll out should be complete. We'll see if there is a response
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I dont understand. Are they saying that is allready being rolled out? Just slowly?

Und3adShr3d said:
I suppose it makes sense for them to trickle the update rather than flood the consumer base with it in case something happens but I would expect it to go live before the Jewel and elegance models drop.
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yea that was my thought too. I just don't know when they are supposed to drop.
Motawa88 said:
I dont understand. Are they saying that is already being rolled out? Just slowly?
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According to them yes. But IMHO, that's BS and they havent done anything yet. I'm pretty sure that response is just a way to make you feel at ease while not telling you anything at all

Hope soon!
This is such a wanted feature. It is the 1 thing that I actually dislike about the Android Wear watches to the point where it is annoying.
Using a watch creates a distance. I leave my phone on the charger or laying around while I run around the house. Getting a call now involves me running to grab my phone. Or what I have had to do was just keep my phone on me, which defeats the purpose. Also in the summer, when I am in the pool, drinking beer on my float, if a work call comes in, it is a mad dash to flip off the float, run out of the pool, dry hands, grab phone, answer.

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Hope soon!
This is such a wanted feature. It is the 1 thing that I actually dislike about the Android Wear watches to the point where it is annoying.
Using a watch creates a distance. I leave my phone on the charger or laying around while I run around the house. Getting a call now involves me running to grab my phone. Or what I have had to do was just keep my phone on me, which defeats the purpose. Also in the summer, when I am in the pool, drinking beer on my float, if a work call comes in, it is a mad dash to flip off the float, run out of the pool, dry hands, grab phone, answer.
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I agree, but you shouldnt go into the pool with your huawei watch...

Screw that! I swam with my LG G Watch all summer. I don't purposely submerge it but it can take some water. My pool is 4ft and I mostly lounge/float. But the Watch is good for 3feet for 30min. It will probably last longer and able to go deeper, but that is a safe zone. I do sometimes take it off and leave it poolside so I don't get tan lines.

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Screw that! I swam with my LG G Watch all summer. I don't purposely submerge it but it can take some water. My pool is 4ft and I mostly lounge/float. But the Watch is good for 3feet for 30min. It will probably last longer and able to go deeper, but that is a safe zone. I do sometimes take it off and leave it poolside so I don't get tan lines.
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Your lg watch hasjust a tiny little hole for the mic. Your huawei watch has 2 relatively big wholes for spekaer and mic. Good Luck with that buddy.

HW is IP67 . Sould resist without a ptoblem for a swim or shower!

calinormy said:
HW is IP67 . Sould resist without a ptoblem for a swim or shower!
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I am not saying that it will break 100%. I just wouldnt risk trying it.

Time to take control of sons phone

My son is 15 and I believe that he is becoming enslaved to porn. He comes home and heads straight for his room only coming out to eat. He says that he is watching youtube but no one spends 5 to 7 hours watching Youtube. He used to spend considerable time playing video games on his laptop. Now he just lays under the sheets looking at his phone with his headphones on. This could be very serious. I had a friend in junior high who became addicted to porn and developed a serious mental disorder. He didn't leave his bedroom for nearly 10 years.
I finally took away his phone. I want to inspect it just to see exactly what's going on. It has a lock screen pin and I don't know the account information although I may be able to gain access to it to unlock the phone from device manager. I really just want to find out what other options I have to get into his phone before I do a hard reset and attempt a Google Account Bypass hack. I need to install a monitoring apk like Cerberus to exact more control over his phone as well.
I'm not trying to get access to a phone that I'm not authorized to. And I understand that I can't prove that either but any information about what I can do to help my son would be awesome.
The phone is the LG G4 VS991 with Android 6.1

Not sure I can help you with the phone, but why don't you talk to your son instead? Confronting him and taking away his phone may not be the best way to deal with this. Kids nowadays unfortunately have access to porn from many places, phones, computers, tablets, etc. And if it's not their phone, it's one of their friends'. So taking away the phone may not get you very far, it probably just undermines any trust relationship he has with you.
So see if you can find out by talking to him what is really going on with your son, and see if you can make him understand that he needs to control himself. Also I think a lot of people watch porn, and rarely it turns into a serious mental disorder. He is a young teenage boy, his carnal desires are taking over, but I can understand based on your past experiences that you don't want this to turn into a problem.

curster said:
My son is 15 and I believe that he is becoming enslaved to porn. He comes home and heads straight for his room only coming out to eat. He says that he is watching youtube but no one spends 5 to 7 hours watching Youtube. He used to spend considerable time playing video games on his laptop. Now he just lays under the sheets looking at his phone with his headphones on. This could be very serious. I had a friend in junior high who became addicted to porn and developed a serious mental disorder. He didn't leave his bedroom for nearly 10 years.
I finally took away his phone. I want to inspect it just to see exactly what's going on. It has a lock screen pin and I don't know the account information although I may be able to gain access to it to unlock the phone from device manager. I really just want to find out what other options I have to get into his phone before I do a hard reset and attempt a Google Account Bypass hack. I need to install a monitoring apk like Cerberus to exact more control over his phone as well.
I'm not trying to get access to a phone that I'm not authorized to. And I understand that I can't prove that either but any information about what I can do to help my son would be awesome.
The phone is the LG G4 VS991 with Android 6.1
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Really don't do it this way. Technically it may be possible but don't break the trust you have with your son.
I cannot tell you WHAT you should do but I can say that doing it this way will make things even more worse!
This sounds more like a problem need to be solved another way.
...and keep in mind that he is in an age where porn becomes very interesting. The most important step is taken when he has a real girlfriend where he just do not needs those videos anyways.
But nevertheless this discussion is nothing for this forum..
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Thank you both for your thoughts. On not the best dad in the world and I know that. I will consider other options. Thanks again.

curster said:
Thank you both for your thoughts. On not the best dad in the world and I know that. I will consider other options. Thanks again.
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No just be not that hard with yourself. It's just the way to go. Making worries means you love your son and that is the most important!

but he is 15....

If you can crack his phone, might want to consider applying for the NSA.

curster said:
My son is 15 and I believe that he is becoming enslaved to porn. He comes home and heads straight for his room only coming out to eat. He says that he is watching youtube but no one spends 5 to 7 hours watching Youtube.
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Believe me, there are legions of people that do exactly this. I think it's less likely for someone to spend 5-7 hours watching porn.
curster said:
He used to spend considerable time playing video games on his laptop. Now he just lays under the sheets looking at his phone with his headphones on. This could be very serious. I had a friend in junior high who became addicted to porn and developed a serious mental disorder. He didn't leave his bedroom for nearly 10 years.
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Might be watching Netflix, downloaded TV series, listening to music, watching YouTube. This is not proof of a porn addiction at all.
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I finally took away his phone. I want to inspect it just to see exactly what's going on. It has a lock screen pin and I don't know the account information although I may be able to gain access to it to unlock the phone from device manager. I really just want to find out what other options I have to get into his phone before I do a hard reset and attempt a Google Account Bypass hack. I need to install a monitoring apk like Cerberus to exact more control over his phone as well.
I'm not trying to get access to a phone that I'm not authorized to. And I understand that I can't prove that either but any information about what I can do to help my son would be awesome.
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See, that's the thing. You *aren't* trying to access a phone you're not authorized to. You're his father so you have every right to check his activity. However, why can't you just sit him down and have a good talk? Why go behind his back and set the wrong example? He'll only feel distrusted and will be deterred from coming to you when he might want to with questions or issues.
I don't think it's a bad idea to simply ask him what he does on his PC, maybe he can show you what he's doing. Maybe he has a new interest you could share. And maybe it is porn, but then at least you can have a healthy conversation about the good and the bad sides.

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Believe me, there are legions of people that do exactly this. I think it's less likely for someone to spend 5-7 hours watching porn.
Might be watching Netflix, downloaded TV series, listening to music, watching YouTube. This is not proof of a porn addiction at all.
maybe facebook whats app . youtube and yes maybe a little bit of porn. dont worry about it. as long as its not gay porn. we all go thru that. we love porn and yes when he gets a girlfriend porn will be not in priority. i watched porn LOL i have porn. who doesnt ... i want to ask the father DID YOU WATCHED PORN???
we all did. so itll be okey. but as a son when parent spies on you its worst, thats not cool. as long as its drugs i agree to know what hes doing but for porn. let him explore.
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Does Android Auto work for you?

I've heard Android Auto usually doesn't work on Huawei phones and unfortunately its one of the few things I do need working on my phone. (Not just the App running, but more that is connects to my car successfully)
I'm in the US and will want to make sure Android Auto is functional before I pull the trigger. It looks like it has good LTE band support for AT&T so that i usually the other concern but I'm sure that is going to work fine.
If any of you US folks can confirm Android Auto is working I would really appreciate it, Thanks!

Would be very interested to know this too.

If no one chimes in, I'll be happy to tell you next week when I receive mine, I'll connect to my Maxima SR and test it.

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If no one chimes in, I'll be happy to tell you next week when I receive mine, I'll connect to my Maxima SR and test it.
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Thank you, really appreciate it.
What carrier are you going to be putting it on?

omniphil said:
Thank you, really appreciate it.
What carrier are you going to be putting it on?
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ATT.
I'm also going to test VoLTE. And spoofing the imei on ATT in an attempt to get VoLTE. See which one works.

antiochasylum said:
ATT.
I'm also going to test VoLTE. And spoofing the imei on ATT in an attempt to get VoLTE. See which one works.
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Excellent, I'm sitting on AT&T as well.

I answered in another thread but yeah works perfectly for me. So does ok Google when using Android auto but ok Google doesn't work properly if not using Android auto. China version

I need this to work or I'll get my ass lost within a week [emoji23][emoji23]
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Jerky_san said:
I answered in another thread but yeah works perfectly for me. So does ok Google when using Android auto but ok Google doesn't work properly if not using Android auto. China version
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Does it connect to the car right away when you first plug in the cable?
I have a Xiaomi Mi Max 3 now and the connection to the car sometimes takes like 5 -10 minutes..

omniphil said:
Does it connect to the car right away when you first plug in the cable?
I have a Xiaomi Mi Max 3 now and the connection to the car sometimes takes like 5 -10 minutes..
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Mine is pretty instant.. Both my cars have a little thing that plays in the beginning so it gives the phone about a 5 head start but its usually there by the time the animation finishes.

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Mine is pretty instant.. Both my cars have a little thing that plays in the beginning so it gives the phone about a 5 head start but its usually there by the time the animation finishes.
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And your on the Chinese version?, so you had to manually install all the Play Services?
I think i would just end up going with the Global version, so I think that's already all baked in.

omniphil said:
And your on the Chinese version?, so you had to manually install all the Play Services?
I think i would just end up going with the Global version, so I think that's already all baked in.
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There is a ton of misinformation floating around. Chinese version comes with services baked in. All its missing is google play store and certain google apps like gmail, android auto, hangouts, calender, and others. Its like you installed pico gapps for a rom. Just the basics included. But services and calendar sync and such were already baked in.

Jerky_san said:
There is a ton of misinformation floating around. Chinese version comes with services baked in. All its missing is google play store and certain google apps like gmail, android auto, hangouts, calender, and others. Its like you installed pico gapps for a rom. Just the basics included. But services and calendar sync and such were already baked in.
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Oh that's good to know thank you. Certainly not normal for Chinese phones.
If i'm getting one shortly tho, I'm guessing I should just get the Global version anyways?

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Oh that's good to know thank you. Certainly not normal for Chinese phones.
If i'm getting one shortly tho, I'm guessing I should just get the Global version anyways?
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If the price is the same and such I'd just grab the global. If its not that's up to you then whether you can stand the differences. I got mine the day of release from a lady who I know that came back from Shanghai that day. She grabbed my phone on the way to the airport for me from a Huawei Shop in Shanghai so I paid release day price of $880 w the case. For me that was worth it given the vendors are charging more on top of that. So I "deal" with the china problems. Notification are delayed but I found a setting that lets you tell it to not kill the background work so as long as I don't accidentally close it myself my apps that are important run in the back ground. You "can't change the launcher". You'll have people say BUT YOU CAN JUST USE GESTURES! but that isn't changing the launcher to me. They will be releasing a fix for that but I believe that affects global and china. Biggest thing for me past that is the notification stuff which I believe I've fixed as so far it's responsive.

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If the price is the same and such I'd just grab the global. If its not that's up to you then whether you can stand the differences. I got mine the day of release from a lady who I know that came back from Shanghai that day. She grabbed my phone on the way to the airport for me from a Huawei Shop in Shanghai so I paid release day price of $880 w the case. For me that was worth it given the vendors are charging more on top of that. So I "deal" with the china problems. Notification are delayed but I found a setting that lets you tell it to not kill the background work so as long as I don't accidentally close it myself my apps that are important run in the back ground. You "can't change the launcher". You'll have people say BUT YOU CAN JUST USE GESTURES! but that isn't changing the launcher to me. They will be releasing a fix for that but I believe that affects global and china. Biggest thing for me past that is the notification stuff which I believe I've fixed as so far it's responsive.
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I've had a few Xiaomi and Huawei phones in the past so I am fairly familiar with the hoops you have to jump through to disable the weird task killer stuff and get notifications working. But yes, I'd certainly want notifications from apps other than the build in ones to be pretty real time. So I think I'm ok with that.
Can't change the launcher? they block installing of any third party launcher? While not a deal breaker, I am certainly accustomed to using Nova launcher. But if It's being fixed I guess that's ok too.
The only other major issue for me I've had on the Mi Max 3 is Video Chat apps. I use Line and Skype and the other person cannot hear me consistently. Audio keeps dropping in volume and breaks up, makes video chatting unusable. I am able to get around it by using WhatsApp (No idea why that works and the others don't)
Have you done any video chatting on the phone by chance?
How are you making out with the LTE bands in the US? It seems like the band list for this phone covers most of AT&T...
Thank you for all the help.

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I've had a few Xiaomi and Huawei phones in the past so I am fairly familiar with the hoops you have to jump through to disable the weird task killer stuff and get notifications working. But yes, I'd certainly want notifications from apps other than the build in ones to be pretty real time. So I think I'm ok with that.
Can't change the launcher? they block installing of any third party launcher? While not a deal breaker, I am certainly accustomed to using Nova launcher. But if It's being fixed I guess that's ok too.
The only other major issue for me I've had on the Mi Max 3 is Video Chat apps. I use Line and Skype and the other person cannot hear me consistently. Audio keeps dropping in volume and breaks up, makes video chatting unusable. I am able to get around it by using WhatsApp (No idea why that works and the others don't)
Have you done any video chatting on the phone by chance?
How are you making out with the LTE bands in the US? It seems like the band list for this phone covers most of AT&T...
Thank you for all the help.
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You can install them and run them you simply can't make them default. I've not done video chatting but honestly I don't like to do it but I'll say if the other cameras are anything to look up to your going to be 100% fine. I get full 4g lte its just missing band 30 but my phone seems to sit on band 2 all the time.

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You can install them and run them you simply can't make them default. I've not done video chatting but honestly I don't like to do it but I'll say if the other cameras are anything to look up to your going to be 100% fine. I get full 4g lte its just missing band 30 but my phone seems to sit on band 2 all the time.
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Sounds like I can deal with the launcher issue for now until it's patched.
It's people like you that make this forum a good place to be and learn about these phones so I really appreciate it. Sounds like I need to order this phone give it a whirl as my Mi Max 3 is just too buggy for daily use.

omniphil said:
Sounds like I can deal with the launcher issue for now until it's patched.
It's people like you that make this forum a good place to be and learn about these phones so I really appreciate it. Sounds like I need to order this phone give it a whirl as my Mi Max 3 is just too buggy for daily use.
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Thanks for the compliment.. I've mostly ever been a lurker but since I was one of the first to get this phone figured I'd help as much as I could.

Jerky_san said:
Thanks for the compliment.. I've mostly ever been a lurker but since I was one of the first to get this phone figured I'd help as much as I could.
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Thank you for answering those questions! I am also interesting on this phone and your input is valuable!
May I know if you were able to watch Youtube, Netflix, etc with high resolution such as 720p?

torr310 said:
Thank you for answering those questions! I am also interesting on this phone and your input is valuable!
May I know if you were able to watch Youtube, Netflix, etc with high resolution such as 720p?
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So I don't have netflix as I use plex and such. Youtube lets me watch videos at 1080p60fps and I've actually tried doing 4k ones and it does seem to handle them well. Though you need to be closer to an AP since the transfer is a lot of data. I assume though you mean some paid youtube service or like amazon video which appears to stay low quality. The global is level 1 and china is level 3 for the drm security crap.

Any updates or improvements in 3D scans? Anyone one using it to generate 3d models?

The 3D scan capability of the N10+ is what intrigued me most about the phone. However, after release, most tests/examples of scans were disappointing. I read that the software was problematic and expected to be improved. Has this happened? Anyone actually using the phone to create exportable 3d files? If not, is improved 3d tech expected in the next version of the phone?

I tried it a bunch of times and could never get it to work. I mostly gave up since then though I did see that at least a couple of updates to the 3D scanner were released since then. I am yet to try this again.

I see so little about this feature. I really hoped there was more info.

CalypsoDroid said:
I see so little about this feature. I really hoped there was more info.
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I've tried it a few times, some of them recently. It still works like garbage. It was a really cool idea but the execution has been totally worthless. I think they found the greenest intern they could find and had them randomly copy/paste code from StackOverflow until a program aaaaaaaallllmost formed. Then the intern went back to college and the company janitor took over development. It's just so completely stupid to put a 3D ToF sensor on the phone then totally bork the software and just never fix it. I suppose I shouldn't expect any less from the idiots who built LinuxOnDex then just suddenly aborted development even though it was working perfectly fine. Samsung is the new Google. Never trust anything either of them start. They're 90% likely to never finish it and just discontinue it suddenly.

Collin80 said:
I've tried it a few times, some of them recently. It still works like garbage. It was a really cool idea but the execution has been totally worthless. I think they found the greenest intern they could find and had them randomly copy/paste code from StackOverflow until a program aaaaaaaallllmost formed. Then the intern went back to college and the company janitor took over development. It's just so completely stupid to put a 3D ToF sensor on the phone then totally bork the software and just never fix it. I suppose I shouldn't expect any less from the idiots who built LinuxOnDex then just suddenly aborted development even though it was working perfectly fine. Samsung is the new Google. Never trust anything either of them start. They're 90% likely to never finish it and just discontinue it suddenly.
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There is so much truth in this it's scary. Samsung Cloud was just going through my head as I was reading this. Launched, billed as the next best thing to happen to Android devices, then failed to roll out with any sort of desktop support, followed by failure to support buying more storage in almost all regions followed by scrapping of the whole thing and some quasi-partnership with Microsoft to use OneDrive. I can think of a bunch more features like this that Samsung devised and that never took off. The fact that the ToF sensor is not being utilized for better photography is also baffling to me. Samsung's default implementation of DoF is absolutely horrible.

A couple of days ago there was a new update. This doesn't make it suddenly scan things properly. I tried several things, mostly stuffed animals / dog toys as those are about the right size and don't move. Still works like crap. It does an OK job sometimes but the 3D sensor is very picky. I tried to scan a very large mug that is plastic and some of the pieces were too shiny and hardly showed up. I tried to scan a rubber dog toy and it kind of worked but the process was irritating. I tried to scan a large stuffed animal chicken. It's probably 3 feet tall, plush, and covered in fake fur (why would a chicken be furry? The world may never know). This worked OK, the model is decent. But, it was tough to keep my phone at the proper distance as I moved around it. That's mostly my problem but the app is super brittle. If you move too abruptly or you accidentally point your camera too far away it just immediately aborts. I've got programs for the PC that use a Kinect sensor from the XBOX to do scanning and those work similarly but generally tell you if you're getting off course and allow you to try to move back into position rather than just suddenly aborting the scan.
Forget trying to scan your pets. Animals move far too much. Probably forget trying to scan a person. It's hard for a person to sit perfectly still for long enough and this software isn't very forgiving. Though, scanning either pets or people does allow for some bazaar lovecraftian horrors to emerge. If you want to transform your pet into the Thing then this is the way to do it.
I think the problem is that they've got too large a mission. The app supports all kinds of dumb stuff like animating your 3D model after you capture it, etc. They really needed to focus on actually being able to capture models reliably before implementing all the cutesy garbage on top of it. The sad thing is that, for all the crap I give them about how bad it is, it's actually almost there. It's just right on the cusp of working. I can capture models of stuff. They're just very difficult to get working and when I do I see some aberrations that shouldn't be there. It's close to working and if they'd just hunker down and fix the weirdness in capture it could be great in short order. But, it seems like development on this is very slow and too spread out across all the other needless stuff it can do. It needs to scan stuff reliably and then they can work on the other gee-whiz features.
For your viewing pleasure, I've attached the best model I've gotten captured so far - the fuzzy chicken. It's large, it's in charge, it worked pretty well. Behold, the best the 3D Scanner on a Note 10+ can do. I attached both the model output from the 3d Scanner app and a picture of the base model (with no texturing) from Blender so you can see the smoothness and detail of the model without the texture obscuring it. I suppose it's fairly decent but I wouldn't directly use it to 3D print something.

Collin80 said:
A couple of days ago there was a new update. This doesn't make it suddenly scan things properly. I tried several things, mostly stuffed animals / dog toys as those are about the right size and don't move. Still works like crap. It does an OK job sometimes but the 3D sensor is very picky. I tried to scan a very large mug that is plastic and some of the pieces were too shiny and hardly showed up. I tried to scan a rubber dog toy and it kind of worked but the process was irritating. I tried to scan a large stuffed animal chicken. It's probably 3 feet tall, plush, and covered in fake fur (why would a chicken be furry? The world may never know). This worked OK, the model is decent. But, it was tough to keep my phone at the proper distance as I moved around it. That's mostly my problem but the app is super brittle. If you move too abruptly or you accidentally point your camera too far away it just immediately aborts. I've got programs for the PC that use a Kinect sensor from the XBOX to do scanning and those work similarly but generally tell you if you're getting off course and allow you to try to move back into position rather than just suddenly aborting the scan.
Forget trying to scan your pets. Animals move far too much. Probably forget trying to scan a person. It's hard for a person to sit perfectly still for long enough and this software isn't very forgiving. Though, scanning either pets or people does allow for some bazaar lovecraftian horrors to emerge. If you want to transform your pet into the Thing then this is the way to do it.
I think the problem is that they've got too large a mission. The app supports all kinds of dumb stuff like animating your 3D model after you capture it, etc. They really needed to focus on actually being able to capture models reliably before implementing all the cutesy garbage on top of it. The sad thing is that, for all the crap I give them about how bad it is, it's actually almost there. It's just right on the cusp of working. I can capture models of stuff. They're just very difficult to get working and when I do I see some aberrations that shouldn't be there. It's close to working and if they'd just hunker down and fix the weirdness in capture it could be great in short order. But, it seems like development on this is very slow and too spread out across all the other needless stuff it can do. It needs to scan stuff reliably and then they can work on the other gee-whiz features.
For your viewing pleasure, I've attached the best model I've gotten captured so far - the fuzzy chicken. It's large, it's in charge, it worked pretty well. Behold, the best the 3D Scanner on a Note 10+ can do. I attached both the model output from the 3d Scanner app and a picture of the base model (with no texturing) from Blender so you can see the smoothness and detail of the model without the texture obscuring it. I suppose it's fairly decent but I wouldn't directly use it to 3D print something.
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How did you manage to put it in blender?

I played with it but more a curiosity than a useful tool. It really ate cpu cycles/current like crazy though. I guess if I needed a hand warmer I might use it again

may i know how do you scan a 3d model? been finding the app for some time already but cant find it

conanDO98 said:
may i know how do you scan a 3d model? been finding the app for some time already but cant find it
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Search for "3D Scanner" in the Galaxy Store (not Google Play Store) and download the app.