Hey folks,
I am currently on the NE4 everything...bootloader, modem, etc. Rooted running the Samsung stock ROM. I was wondering if there was a way to just flash the NJ1 modem in ODIN without updating the bootloader?
I ask this because I want the better call signal of NJ1, but don't want to leave NE4 due to towelroot not working on the NJ1 bootloader. I don't have any custom recovery or kernel installed due to my warranty bit being 0 and would like to keep it that way for another few months until it expires.
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hi guys. my question is should my baseband be MDL for a MDL rom? I never did the tmo software update to MDL but rooted and started flashing right out of the box. For the most part I've had pretty good luck flashing roms but I see most roms are MDL which Im still on the original MDB baseband even after flashing several MDL roms. My baseband stays the same. Off topic I noticed my system settings about phone does not show what modem I'm on. I'm confused if I were to flash (haven't looked into in yet) a new modem. How would I know which modem I'm on? I feel like I should be on a MDL baseband but am skeptical about the difficulties regarding root. Anyways is it possible to flash a new baseband like I would a modem or kernel? Or should I just odin a MDL stock rom with root injected? Then start from there? I had trouble getting root and a recovery on my friends phone that had the update so I used odin to go back to MDB because that was the easiest solution for me at the time. Silly question but is the modem and baseband related in any way? I guess what I'm asking is what do you guys recommend? Are you still on MDB like me? Or is MDL a must?
djphillyphil101 said:
hi guys. my question is should my baseband be MDL for a MDL rom? I never did the tmo software update to MDL but rooted and started flashing right out of the box. For the most part I've had pretty good luck flashing roms but I see most roms are MDL which Im still on the original MDB baseband even after flashing several MDL roms. My baseband stays the same. Off topic I noticed my system settings about phone does not show what modem I'm on. I'm confused if I were to flash (haven't looked into in yet) a new modem. How would I know which modem I'm on? I feel like I should be on a MDL baseband but am skeptical about the difficulties regarding root. Anyways is it possible to flash a new baseband like I would a modem or kernel? Or should I just odin a MDL stock rom with root injected? Then start from there? I had trouble getting root and a recovery on my friends phone that had the update so I used odin to go back to MDB because that was the easiest solution for me at the time. Silly question but is the modem and baseband related in any way? I guess what I'm asking is what do you guys recommend? Are you still on MDB like me? Or is MDL a must?
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If you started flashing custom stuff back when MDB was the latest update; and you haven't manually updated your baseband... then no, you should still be on the previous baseband. Also, your modem should be what your baseband is.. MDB. I know that if you flash ROMs in CWM/TWRP you aren't getting the modem/baseband. If you just want to flash a new baseband/modem, check this thread out. I will say though, unless you are experiencing problems with the MDB modems, there's no real reason to go changing it.
I've got a Galaxy S3 I747 it is currently running 4.1.1, I747UCDLK3 Baseband. I'm not exactly a noob when it comes to flashing and rooting, I know my way around CWM and Odin pretty well. But I have a few questions on this 4.3 OTA. (I am a forum noob)
-Will I still be able to root? (I heard CF works for it)
-Can I install CWM? (Is the Bootloader locked??)
-Will I be be able to I flash other roms than the 4.3 TW like CM11Snapshot? (Is the bootloader locked?)
-What the h*ll is knox and why should I be worried?
-What is with the boot loader downgrading thing? (Have to do with locked bootloader??)
I AM NOT AT ALL WORRIED ABOUT A FLASH COUNTER OR VOIDING A WARRANTY I AM NOT ON A CONTRACT . I JUST DO NO WANT TO HARD BRICK MY PHONE.
If you take the OTA 4.3 update, it will install Knox and the 4.3 bootloader.
The 4.3 bootloader cannot be downgraded and attempts to do so will probably brick the phone.
You can root the stock 4.3 ROM with auto root but Knox may interfere with the process of cause issues after the fact.
You can still install CWM. I rrefer Philz Touch which is CWM-based.over TWRP.
So can I still flash roms?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
Yes, you can flash ROMs. Is your phone unlocked? Since you're on 4.1.1 stock, you can unlock it for free.
Personally, I avoided the 4.3 update because it installs knox and the 4.3 bootloader which can cause problems when using Odin to get back to stock.
I have a Canadian version of the s3 and I'm able to run KK ROMs with a stock 4.1.2 bootloader.
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Yes, you can flash ROMs. Is your phone unlocked? Since you're on 4.1.1 stock, you can unlock it for free.
Personally, I avoided the 4.3 update because it installs knox and the 4.3 bootloader which can cause problems when using Odin to get back to stock.
I have a Canadian version of the s3 and I'm able to run KK ROMs with a stock 4.1.2 bootloader.
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Unlocked as in Bootloader? Yeah I've been able to flash roms via CWM and Odin on 4.1.1 and as in Carrier unlocked? Yes I use Straight Talk on this ATT S3
If I got the 4.3OTA I wouldn't need Odin to go back stock if I flashed a ROM would I? I could just make a back up via CWM then restore later if I wanted right rather than using ODIN?
See I can't use KK roms because I have the 4.1.1 BL so is there a way I can upgrade my boot loader to the 4.1.2 version??
Would I lose my carrier unlock if I upgraded to 4.3 or if I upgrade my bootloader??
I suggest downloading a ROM you want to try, then unzip the ROM and look at the updater script to see which bootloaders are supported. The updater-script file is located in \META-INF\com\google\android\updater-script. You can use a text editor to open the updater-script file.
The first few lines will list the bootloaders that are supported. I run Validus which is a KK ROM using a stock 4.1.2 i747m bootloader.
Do you know about this > "If I got the 4.3OTA I wouldn't need Odin to go back stock if I flashed a ROM would I? I could just make a back up via CWM then restore later if I wanted right rather than using ODIN?"
Also couldn't I just upgrade my Bootloader and Modem from here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321310
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
I feel like if I upgrade my boot loader then I won't have to worry about restrictions.
Would I lose my carrier unlock if I upgraded to 4.3 or if I upgrade just my bootloader??
I ended up flashing the MG2 Modem and Bootloader, I'm good now, also if I want 4.3 I saw loserskater has a leak version that will be good and wont not let me downgrade my bootloader.
Hi, sorry this is probably a noob question but I've been reading through the forums and got confused how to update my rooted s4. Normally I would just install the custom rom with the update but it seems like this isnt the case right now.
I'm currently on 4.2.2, rooted, and have wicked as my rom. How would I update to 4.4.4? From what I understand there is a new modem and firmware... something to do with NH7? Can someone explain to me what NH7 does. Thanks for all your help!
NH7 is the newest firmware based on 4.4.4 and it is recommended if you plan of using 4.4.4 tw roms. To update it just download the NH7 firmware from general thread and flash it with Odin, after that you can use cf-auto root to root, or if you're just planning to flash a ROM then just flash recovery and then flash ROM.. If you care about tripping your Knox counter then just know that flashing recovery or rooting will trip it
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Hi, sorry this is probably a noob question but I've been reading through the forums and got confused how to update my rooted s4. Normally I would just install the custom rom with the update but it seems like this isnt the case right now.
I'm currently on 4.2.2, rooted, and have wicked as my rom. How would I update to 4.4.4? From what I understand there is a new modem and firmware... something to do with NH7? Can someone explain to me what NH7 does. Thanks for all your help!
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You mention that you want to update and that under normal circumstances you would simply flash the an updated custom ROM... yet you say you've read it isn't that simple, right?
You are correct, it isn't THAT simple, but it is ALMOST that simple. Being as that you are still on the old 4.2.2 pre-KNOX bootloader and all, you can flash and flash and flash all day long and a single use of Triangle Away is all you'd need to still be able to revert your device back to 100% stock, both firmware AND flash counters if you ever needed to for some reason. If you use Odin, Kies, or take an OTA update you will lose that ability. Anything you flash once you go through official channels to update will trip your KNOX counter... and that cannot be reset. The problems you've read about simply flashing an updated custom ROM is that you will have problems with data.
The data drops can be avoided by flashing the newest modem, which would be NH7. Understand though, that method only updates your GSM modem; your LTE modem would be unaffected. This would only be a problem though if you are having trouble receiving LTE where others with the same carrier can get it with no problem. If you aren't having any problems with LTE, then I would recommend to simply update your GSM modem and use the custom recovery of your choice (ClockWorkMod, Philz Touch, or TWRP) to flash any of the ROMs in the T-Mobile GS4 Android Development section.
To update your GSM modem, follow the instructions in this thread. That thread is for updating to the 4.4.2 NB4 modem, which that modem would actually be all you need; but if you wish to have the NH7 modem, just use the modem.bin ONLY file from this post instead of the modem package included in the tutorial thread. After that little bit of work, you can flash any Android version you want; from 4.2.2 all the way up to 4.4.4... AOSP, TouchWiz, or the Google Play Edition ROMs.
So from what I understand...
1. Update the modem not firmware
2. Flash ROM
So I don't need to re-root?
You are correct.
No need to re-root.
I just bought an AT&T S3 to replace a carrier unlocked T-Mobile S3. The new device is already rooted with CM11 installed and it's baseband is MG2. I'll need to revert back to stock temporarily to do a carrier unlock. Here are my questions:
What is a safe TW (preferrably a pre-rooted TW) I can flash to perform the carrier unlock?
After I'm carrier unlocked, what is the latest modem I can install? I want to do all of this without enabling knox.
Thanks to all in advance,
Niphoet
Flashing back to stock means everything will be wiped on the phone, including recovery and data.
You can use Odin to flash the stock ATT 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile.com. Before doing so, boot into download mode and make sure you there is nothing about warranty bit on the screen.
niphoet said:
After I'm carrier unlocked, what is the latest modem I can install? I want to do all of this without enabling knox.
Thanks to all in advance,
Niphoet
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There ae several important things to know about upgrading your modem and firmware.
1) KNOX comes with all of the firmware since the officlal 4.3 release, MJB. The leaked version of the 4.3 release (MJ2) does not have KNOX.
2) Once on the MJB and later firmware you can no longer downgrade, you will most probably brick your phone.
3) It is possible to run the MJ2 firmware/bootloader and MJB modem combination on 4.3 and 4.4.x ROMs.
4) The MJ2 and MJB bootloader will most likely require a custom kernel if you use it on 4.4.x ROMs. Something like the kToonez kernel or iBuddler kernel found in Likewise.
5) Once you get past the 4.3 firmware do not mix firmware and modem release versions, again bricks are probably. If you have NE4 firmare, use the NE4 modem. The same goes for for if you have the NE4 modem, use the NE4 bootloader. This holds true for NH2, NJ1, and NKx.
6) The only time I have seen that you absolutely must be on NE4 or newer is for the Lollipop ROMs.
Hi guys I need some information regarding to How to root, flash Custom ROMS, flash various Recoveries and if I want to revert back to full stock ROM whenever I want to how will I do it?
My device model is SGH-I747M (Rogers Carrier) and I've updated it to the latest OTA update 4.4 KitKat
I've seen may threads regarding to the SGH-I747 but all are for AT&T carrier but not any single for the Rogers carrier why?
Do you have any warranty left on your phone? Flashing a custom recovery will trip the warranty counter and change it from 0 to 1.
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Do you have any warranty left on your phone? Flashing a custom recovery will trip the warranty counter and change it from 0 to 1.
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I haven't rooted/flashed nothing on my phone yet. All I'm just asking the question bro and yea I don't have any warranty for it
The easiest way to root, in my opinion, is to flash a custom recovery in Odin. After flashing a custom recovery, boot into recovery, flash supersu, boot the phone, allow supersu to update and disable knox. Then boot back into recovery, create a nandroid backup, and flash a custom ROM for the d2lte.
To flash back to stock, you can restore your nandroid backup or flash a stock ROM from sammobile.com. Just make sure to match the sammobile.com ROM with your bootloader.
The big difference between the i747 (AT&T) and the i747M (various Canadian carriers) is the bootloader and modem. They are NOT interchangeable between the i747 and the i747M. I haven't seen any of the custom ROMs for these SGS3s that flash bootloader and modem. Therefore any of the custom ROMS for the i747 will work with the i747M. Custom TouchWiz based ROMs are safe to use.
If the instructions for installing a ROM say that you must be on the NE4 or NJ1 bootloader and modem, the equivalent for the Rogers i747M are (NDx?), NF2, and NKx. From your original post I believe you are on the NKx bootloader and modem pair. This is good for any of the Kitkat and Lollipop ROMs. The only catch is that the updater-scripts for some of the older KK ROMs may not recognize the newest bootloader and modems. The ROMs are still good, it just takes a bit of work to get them installed. The same extra work would actually allow you to run a JellyBean (4.3) ROM.
Stock ROMs, those designed to return your device to factory condition (+/- root and +/- custom recovery), require much more care.
If you ever need to return to stock for your i747M, DO NOT flash a ROM that will down grade your modem and bootloader. Downgrading the bootloader and modem once you are at, or past, the 4.3.x versions will brick the i747 and I have read it will do the same for the i747M. If you can not find a stock ROM in the forums for the i747M you can find them at sammobile.com.
There are some stock ROMs available in the forums that include the AT&T bootloader and modem. DO NOT flash/install any of these.
There are stock ROMs for the i747 in the forum that do not contain bootloader and modem. These are safe for you, but BE CAREFUL. You do not want to mistakenly try to install one that does have the bootloader and modem
Also, do not flash a modem that does not match your bootloader in version number. This did not matter prior to the 4.3 bootloader and modem, it has ever since.