Hi, I'm just now coming out of the stone age and ditching my non smartphone (Pantech Renue) for what I believe to be one of the best smartphones out to date...the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. I have some serious questions before I make the switch from AT&T to Straight Talk with a Note 4. Here are my questions:
1) When purchasing a new Galaxy Note 4, could I purchase a Note 4 locked to AT&T and just purchase the byop activation kit from Straight Talk? Or do i NEED to buy an unlocked at&t/GSM Note 4 to work on Straight Talk network?
2) What are the best going websites for purchasing a New/Mint condition Note 4 at a reasonable rate (out of contract rate) ?
3) Any tips when making switch from AT&T to ST? How do you make sure mms works while on ST with Note 4?
4) What happens if I root the phone and freeze any apps I don't necessarily want to use? Does it mean the phone will have to be resold at a significantly lower price than a phone that hasn't been rooted?
I appreciate any and all feedback! Thanks!
robrileyw said:
Hi, I'm just now coming out of the stone age and ditching my non smartphone (Pantech Renue) for what I believe to be one of the best smartphones out to date...the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. I have some serious questions before I make the switch from AT&T to Straight Talk with a Note 4. Here are my questions:
1) When purchasing a new Galaxy Note 4, could I purchase a Note 4 locked to AT&T and just purchase the byop activation kit from Straight Talk? Or do i NEED to buy an unlocked at&t/GSM Note 4 to work on Straight Talk network?
2) What are the best going websites for purchasing a New/Mint condition Note 4 at a reasonable rate (out of contract rate) ?
3) Any tips when making switch from AT&T to ST? How do you make sure mms works while on ST with Note 4?
4) What happens if I root the phone and freeze any apps I don't necessarily want to use? Does it mean the phone will have to be resold at a significantly lower price than a phone that hasn't been rooted?
I appreciate any and all feedback! Thanks!
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I use straight talk too. If I were u I would go with a verizon note 4. There is no root yet, but it will come. U won't get LTE but u will get HSPA+ which is pretty fast. Also I can confirm mms works just fine on the Verizon note 4 with straight talk.
make sure if you buy the whole full retail , make sure to ask for unlock code as they are suppose to give to you once paid.
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to answer number 2 ... you can buy it on off contract with verizon for 700.00 or go on ebay . which they have unlocked ones for at least 750 .
att off contract is 825
answer number 3 - you just gots to change the apn to the STRAIGHTTALK APN
answer number 4 - i dont think their is no root for verizon note 4 yet . i think dev edition are capable for some
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Hello all,
I have sprint samsung galaxy note 2. How can I unlock it to use with GSM carries like AT&T or straight talk?
Thanks you all in advance,
PD
invisible85 said:
Hello all,
I have sprint samsung galaxy note 2. How can I unlock it to use with GSM carries like AT&T or straight talk?
Thanks you all in advance,
PD
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You will need to be able to hardware mod the phone to accept a GSM sim on top of the hardwired chip.
You'll also need balls of steel.
Hardware mod
cal3thousand said:
You will need to be able to hardware mod the phone to accept a GSM sim on top of the hardwired chip.
You'll also need balls of steel.
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lol.
I have no Idea what "Hardware mod" is? Can you please explain or send me a link where I can get an idea how to do that?
Thanks.
invisible85 said:
lol.
I have no Idea what "Hardware mod" is? Can you please explain or send me a link where I can get an idea how to do that?
Thanks.
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The sprint note has no accessable sim slot. To "possibly" accomplish this one would need to modify the hardware by adding a sim slot and hack the software.
there is a thread about sone folks attempting this...i have not been following it.
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959005
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in layman's terms, you can't. if you remove the back cover from your device there is no sim card slot on the sprint variant to insert a sim. the only current wait to use our phones abroad is to use the sprint international plan.
Got it
Thank you all for your help. I sold the phone. I had no choice...
invisible85 said:
Thank you all for your help. I sold the phone. I had no choice...
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You could buy an AT&T Note to use with Straight Talk. I have one for sale on eBay right now (Note 1, not 2) that I bought for that same reason, but don't have coverage where I live to make it happen. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290826024805?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
ebay search
note ii sim or search for this one 271090307387
$6.47 swap that plug and play component into place and BAM sim card slot.
either cut a hole in your middle cover OR buy a int middle cover.
also someone is working on a mod solution to keep the 4g AND add a sim card slot
we off course still need to unlock to work on US carriers but maybe its not locked to begin with since they would not have thought of someone swapping parts like this.
nerys71 said:
ebay search
note ii sim or search for this one 271090307387
$6.47 swap that plug and play component into place and BAM sim card slot.
either cut a hole in your middle cover OR buy a int middle cover.
also someone is working on a mod solution to keep the 4g AND add a sim card slot
we off course still need to unlock to work on US carriers but maybe its not locked to begin with since they would not have thought of someone swapping parts like this.
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very cool. do you know if you can do a similar trick with the ebay sim card holders for the Galaxy S3 (i.e. L710) ? I'm really hoping to buy a sprint GS3, put it on ting, and be able to occasionally take it internationally.
I was about to buy a motorola photon, but the lack of updates is scaring me.
UPDATE: found this thread if you're more into the GS3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002515
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maybe it's just me, but amazing that so many people still believe that phones are compatible with other carriers............if you have Tmobile, AT&T then you're GSM network, Verizon & Sprint are CDMA..............it just bugs me when people ask to get their Sprint phone activated on another carrier (only exception is Cricket). I had someone a couple of days ago who bought a Tmobile version of the Galaxy S3, and wanted to know how to jailbreak it to use on another carrier.
normally you would be absolutely right. but in this specific case and possible with the S3 as well your incorrect.
the Note II and possibly the S3 have full GSM capabilities. Sprint just "corrupted" them on purpose (and should be illegally as well)
with the gizmo from ebay we get a normal sim card slot. now we just need a good hacker/coder to unlock the intentional "block" put in place by sprint to prevent it from seeing US GSM signals from companies other than sprint.
once someone manages to do that we will literally have a phone that could in theory be used on "ANY" US provider and probably any world provider.
ycats said:
maybe it's just me, but amazing that so many people still believe that phones are compatible with other carriers............if you have Tmobile, AT&T then you're GSM network, Verizon & Sprint are CDMA..............it just bugs me when people ask to get their Sprint phone activated on another carrier (only exception is Cricket). I had someone a couple of days ago who bought a Tmobile version of the Galaxy S3, and wanted to know how to jailbreak it to use on another carrier.
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Lol!
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nerys71 said:
ebay search
note ii sim or search for this one 271090307387
$6.47 swap that plug and play component into place and BAM sim card slot.
either cut a hole in your middle cover OR buy a int middle cover.
also someone is working on a mod solution to keep the 4g AND add a sim card slot
we off course still need to unlock to work on US carriers but maybe its not locked to begin with since they would not have thought of someone swapping parts like this.
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based on a search of this and looking at pictures. why would you lose 4g? the lte chip is built on the processor board.
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ycats said:
maybe it's just me, but amazing that so many people still believe that phones are compatible with other carriers............if you have Tmobile, AT&T then you're GSM network, Verizon & Sprint are CDMA..............it just bugs me when people ask to get their Sprint phone activated on another carrier (only exception is Cricket). I had someone a couple of days ago who bought a Tmobile version of the Galaxy S3, and wanted to know how to jailbreak it to use on another carrier.
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the statement below is 100% correct. the hardware in this phone is fully capable of GSM service. the removed software controls are the problem.
nerys71 said:
.....the Note II and possibly the S3 have full GSM capabilities. Sprint just "corrupted" them on purpose (and should be illegally as well)
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I don't know. Someone posted that the LTE SIM card (a chip on the board) is part of this board. so removing it would remove LTE (disable it)
but if your going SIM your going GSM so can't use sprint LTE anyway. so its not a "huge" deal.
Magic Sim?
I contacted Magic Sim and they said their Elite Micro Sim would work with Sprint. It did not show on the site so I emailed them and they said it would.
FWIW
http://www.magic-sim.com/product/id...TER_for_Samsung_Galaxy_Note_2_(SCH-I605).html
There's a guy out there that says he can put it on straight talk w/o sim. operates on verizon network. 231 something was the name of the outfit. google a bit and I'm sure you will find him. hope I helped
look on ebay at the people that do boost mobile flashes for the note 2. send them a message asking if they do the sprint note 2 to straight talk. most of them I talked to do this for like $50 if you have a new donor. If anyone needs more info pm me and I'll be glad to help
invisible85 said:
Hello all,
I have sprint samsung galaxy note 2. How can I unlock it to use with GSM carries like AT&T or straight talk?
Thanks you all in advance,
PD
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It's actually cheaper and way easier to sell your Sprint note 2 and buy one that works on att and straight talk.
Sent from my Amazing Galaxy Note 2!
Unlock Sprint Note II
invisible85 said:
Hello all,
I have sprint samsung galaxy note 2. How can I unlock it to use with GSM carries like AT&T or straight talk?
Thanks you all in advance,
PD
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make sure that yo firmware is not later than 4.1.1 and use the 16 digit code to unlock. Samsung default (01F2030F5F678FF9)
Looking to purchase a Note II and had some questions
I'm looking a purchasing a Samsung Note II that will be used on AT&T network. Since my upgrade is a year away, I have a Skyrocket that's only a year old, this phone will be a full price for me. I'm trying to find out some specific questions on the different Note II phone types, euro vs North America and what preloaded software differences are between them.
* the Note II that I purchase MUST have 4G LTE (AT&T FINALLY turned on 4G LTE in North East OKLA about 4 weeks ago! ..LOVEING IT).
* 10 minutes after I purchase the phone and verifying that everything is in working order it gets rooted.
I can purchase the phone from AT&T for full retail for $649. Best Buy said they would match that price (we'll see if they really do). When at Best Buy I asked about the preloaded software on the Note II (sense they do not have a working model on the floor) I was told in a blunt tone that it was an AT&T phone so it would work on AT&T's network. So i got no help on that front.
Questions---
1. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells have the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store?
2. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells been stripped of some of the Note II futures like the one at the AT&T store?
-- I read on a Amazon review the following---- http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Q2WM4...R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7
Be aware that the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note II is currently missing various standard functionality that Samsung is marketing and the other major carriers provide- missing functionality include:
~Multiview
~Group Shot Camera mode - with the ability to change faces
~Mobile data toggle
~Blocking mode toggle
~Screen Recorder
Since I am trying to get the most bang for my buck (a lot of bucks) which Note II phone that will work on AT&T that has 4G LTE should I be looking at?
(note- I suffered waiting on an ICS update from AT&T, so not having to depended on AT&T for my Android updates is a big plus)
Any advise or pointers is appreciated
Thanks
Yes: the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells has the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store. i'd go with the at&t Note II. as of today, there are ported international ROMs that will work with the at&t Note II. i only use ported ROMs that exclude the modem (radio) and are posted in and/or linked to from the at&t Note II Forums. i'm currently using a ported, international N-7105, JB 4.1.2 ROM that doesn't include the modem. it also includes the stock multi-view feature. there are some small feature differences between the international and at&t version, e.g., keyboard on international version doesn't have long-press for symbols, but nothing that I would consider a show-stopper. international ROMs use different icons to note 4G/LTE service, but i have LTE connectivity with LTE speeds. everything on my Note II works as i would expect it to. see the pictures below.
i'm amazed at how ridiculiously easy it is to root Samsung Android devices. that being said, be sure to read, read, read and understand what you're doing before you do it. (i apologize is my suggestion appears condescending: i'm basing my suggestion on your low post count ).
A (possible) correction and a suggestion:
I use CleanROM for my ATT Note 2 and it does have a toggle for blocking mode. Dunno if this is or isn't a stock feature but it's out there.
Try negotiating with AT&T. I was able to speak to an ATT supervisor through 611 and get a lowered cost for my Note 2 (line was eligible for an upgrade) and my get my wife an S3 for $100 11 months before she was upgrade eligible. Your experience may vary greatly, but by all means, it's worth a shot. They shipped 2-day UPS for free.
I think the screen recording was pulled from all Note II's. Copyright concerns. I've been keeping my eye open for a mod or ROM that enables it, but haven't seen anything yet.
Sent from my Note ][
Screen recorder and and multiview are both missing, but everything else is there. Sprint added the multiview in via OTA update on their version, so ATT should follow suit with their version of the Note.
I'm coming from Verizon phones, so the bloat on this is minimal compared to what I'm used to. If you're rooting, though, it's not going to matter. You can freeze/uninstall it, anyway. Even without rooting, you can disable all of the bloat through the stock app manager, anyway.
Boyfriend was a year out on his upgrade, got the 199 everyone else got by being nice to the csr, no haggling or retention needed.
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Anybody who is using the T-Mobile tab s on AT&T I have some questions. Does the T-Mobile version support LTE on AT&T network, does CF Auto Root work on T-Mobile version, where did you obtain the unlock code for use on AT&T or is the tablet unlocked at purchase? I plan to buy either T-Mobile or AT&T variant ASAP. I don't know if the AT&T bootloader is locked down like all of there phones are now if not I would just buy the AT&T one but as of now I own a note edge on contract and dream of root with no sign of it coming anytime soon. Thanks for any input, a fast response would be awesome cause I am itching to go pick one of these up.
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Anybody who is using the T-Mobile tab s on AT&T I have some questions. Does the T-Mobile version support LTE on AT&T network, does CF Auto Root work on T-Mobile version, where did you obtain the unlock code for use on AT&T or is the tablet unlocked at purchase? I plan to buy either T-Mobile or AT&T variant ASAP. I don't know if the AT&T bootloader is locked down like all of there phones are now if not I would just buy the AT&T one but as of now I own a note edge on contract and dream of root with no sign of it coming anytime soon. Thanks for any input, a fast response would be awesome cause I am itching to go pick one of these up.
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Which did you buy?
Ended up wit the 32GB wifi version from bestbuy. If I have it out and about I use my hotspot from my edge. I figured it was a better move than paying $10 a month for two years to add a tablet to my AT&T account, plus I figured lollipop upgrade will come quicker on wifi version. Currently rooted and running iron rom for T800 I like the tab s but don't find myself using it very often with it being more convenient just to pick up my note.
Hi!
I previously had a Note 4 for a day or two after release, coming from at that time, an iPhone. I subsequently returned the note, kept the iPhone, and recently upgraded to the 6+. Now with ATT's mobile share, I'm looking at adding a second line for how cheap it is. I'd like for that second line to be an android device, to get the best of both worlds. As a result of being out of the mix when it comes to android, or more like never having been in it, I have a couple questions.
I distinctly remember how much junk was on my ATT Note 4. Junk apps from Samsung, junk from ATT- and worst of all, I couldn't do anything about it (no root?). Has that changed? Is there a way to remove these apps, fix touch wiz annoyances, etc? I'd think that would require root, but like I mentioned, I don't know the details of note4 root status, or even rooting in general.
I currently have a Nexus 6 and Oneplus One on order (good prices on both of them), but personally like the Note4 the best- can I change it to make it perfect? Or is it still locked down and junked up?
Thanks for your help!
Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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I just bought my note 4 two weeks ago. If I could go back in time I would have bought the nexus 6. This phone lags too much for my liking. It is actually slower than my g2 was at opening apps. I thought I would like this phone but at this point regret my choice.
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Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!
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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!
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OK heres what you do if they won't let you buy it straight up. Buy the t mobile version on the payment plan because like that there's no contact or ETF. Go home and make a call for 5 min on T mobile sim, then submit the imei to cell unlocker net. Then in a few days call and cancel the service with Tmobile and pay the remainder of the phone off, which by the way is $100 cheaper then the AT&T version. After receiving the unlock code from cell unlocker stick the AT&T sim in and when it boots it will ask for the unlock code, put it in and your good to go.
I have both versions of the note 4 and the t mobile version works perfect on the AT&T network except you have root, custom roms and kernels. All the rom developers in the note 4 t mobile forum full support the AT&T network in there roms straight out the box.
You might want to wait 3 months for the note 5 because this phone is already dated and is a big investment.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the help Sand, that is a great explanation. The tmobile device is clearly better then- no loss of service quality or anything, but still having the root, roms, etc. I think regardless of the imminent release of the note 5, I might still get the four for now, or just keep that incoming OPO One- waiting 3 months for the note 5, plus however much more time for rooting dev is a bit long for me. Regardless, I appreciate your information!
Hey, I'm pretty new to modding phones and have been searching around for a way to get my phone (SM-N910A) to be able to run android 8.0 or higher but haven't found anything. Is it just not possible at this time without swapping out parts of the phone or is there a way I have overlooked?
XDApplePie -- The ATT N4 Model SM-N910A cannot be rooted. That was what two genuine experts told me, but they didn't explain why. If so, I think a custom rom can't be installed.
I too want to flash a custom rom to my ATT Note 4. There are many N4 custom ROMs but I can't find any that support the ATT N4. I noticed that ALL the supported N4s have the Exynos chip but NO SnapDragon N4s are supported. The ATT N4 has the Qualcomm SnapDragon chip. My guess is that for some reason the SnapDragon chipset might the obstacle.
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
boofman said:
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
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I just got off my Note 7 after futilely *****ing out AT&T for deceiving its customers. AT&T does say its phones are locked ... but when you ask a Customer Service Rep if the phone can be 'unlocked' after the contract is expired & phone paid off in full, they say 'yes'. But I just learned that ATT means 'carrier unlocked' only! But the bootloader remains locked forever.
ATT never tells customers that BOTH the carrier and bootloader is locked!
I have two classic Notes -- 4 & 7 -- trapped in stock ATT Android 6 -- and just learned I can't custom rom them to Andy 9. Heartbreaking for a Note FANatic.
So, I am looking at an unlocked Note 10 bought directly from Samsung. But ha, ha, ATT's worthwhile features like its custom dailer, sync calls between Note & Galaxy Watch, Spam Call Block, & etc won't work on a non-ATT unlocked Note 10. The greedy corporate assholes.
My daily driver ATT N7 is cooked. Its ATT Andy 6 is forever frozen. Its 3.5 yr old STOCK battery is failing. OEM replacement battery is a hopeless hope. A battery mod is extreme. I am heartbroken. I have to get a N10 ... and probably an ATT variant for the sake of my ATT Galaxy Watch.
Oh boy, I let ATT trap me like a sheep to be sheared.
Hah, Corporate Big Brother at its worst. Locked bootloader even though you pay for the phone