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My Dilemma - What to do?

Hi Everyone!
I'm thinking of getting a new phone.
My work allows me to replace my phone every two years at a steep discount. Currently, I can buy the Note 2, for 380$ before taxes.
However, I am also thinking maybe I'll buy the Nexus 4 at 309$ for the 8gb one.
So do I buy the Nexus 4, and buy the Note 2 to flip for a profit or just buy the Note 2 and forget the Nexus 4.
Had I not tried the Note 2, I would not be having this dilemma, but after trying it, I'm kind of enamored by it.
What would you do and why?

You know what im having the same dilemma myself and I currently own the note 2 and iam struggling to decide if I should return it and take the leap and get the nexus 4...its all really down to wat your looking for...which phone are you leaning more towards
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I've always had phones that were running some variant of Android with a skin.
And I've always rooted and loaded some variant of CM. Was hoping to go Nexus this time around, so I can get the latest and greatest before all other phones.
However, what you get with the Note 2, it's form factor, power, battery, expandable mem, removable battery... ugh...

balla786 said:
I've always had phones that were running some variant of Android with a skin.
And I've always rooted and loaded some variant of CM. Was hoping to go Nexus this time around, so I can get the latest and greatest before all other phones.
However, what you get with the Note 2, it's form factor, power, battery, expandable mem, removable battery... ugh...
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True I see where your coming from on that...the truth is nexus development wise seen as mecca whereas the galaxy phones sometimes are little behind...I think you should goto a t-mobile store and play with both and see what you like...run a few tests... like do multiple tasks at once and see how battery life trickles down....see which phone gets hot and which one doesn't...feel the textures of the of devices (especially the nexus since its back is made of sum sort of glass) and etc... I love the note 2 but...I feel like the updates are going to be hot/cold, its hella expensive (for just the phone itself) , and development wise.. idk cant predict that one...but the positives surpass the very few negatives...the main argument with the nexus is its lack of LTE /glass back and supposedly the battery is kind of whack...but thats all reviewers speculation and comments...the best thing for us might be to physically see the devices and go with what we can use daily and satisfy us for however long we intend to use them...because think about it you have a choice...either choice in my opinion is a win but I think this will all fall down to what we prefer
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balla786 said:
I've always had phones that were running some variant of Android with a skin.
And I've always rooted and loaded some variant of CM. Was hoping to go Nexus this time around, so I can get the latest and greatest before all other phones.
However, what you get with the Note 2, it's form factor, power, battery, expandable mem, removable battery... ugh...
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Get the Note II... the Nexus 4 is 8GB... without any expandable memory (dumb idea Google). You'll burn through that 8GB in about 3 minutes (rocking 16GB + 64GB microSDXC)

Well if lack of lte and micro sd doesn't bother you don't think further get the nexus !
And one more thing if the above guys calculations are good then your note 2's 16+64 gb will get exhausted in approximately 26 minutes of usage not to mention that it'll only last only 6 minutes if you don't bother buying a 64 gb memory card

Don't get me wrong,I really like the Nexus 4 but it's really got nothing on the Note 2. It's on par with the Note on a few aspects and does have us beat on some astetics but in terms of functionality and features it's no better the the Galaxy Nexus.
Only reason to get it over the Note is for the software updates, but (and 2 years ago I never thought I'd say this) Samsung has been doing just fine with it's software updates and there are sure to be plenty of options to get the latest and greatest on the Note here on xda.
Also without external storage you're not going to get much use out of the S4 Snapdragon, have more then 1 HD game and a couple hundred songs and you're out half the available memory. Not to mention that you don't get the full 8 or 16 gigs to use, you lose quite a bit to the OS between the data, cache, and system partitions. All that power with nothing to use it on is disappointing.
Just my thoughts. LG made a killer device, but without the expandable memory or 32 gigs of internal space like the AT&T and Sprint ones, the Nexus 4 is kinda the runt of the liter.
noted for future reference on my Note 2

dre89 said:
Don't get me wrong,I really like the Nexus 4 but it's really got nothing on the Note 2. It's on par with the Note on a few aspects and does have us beat on some astetics but in terms of functionality and features it's no better the the Galaxy Nexus.
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This is such an excellent point.

balla786 said:
Hi Everyone!
I'm thinking of getting a new phone.
My work allows me to replace my phone every two years at a steep discount. Currently, I can buy the Note 2, for 380$ before taxes.
However, I am also thinking maybe I'll buy the Nexus 4 at 309$ for the 8gb one.
So do I buy the Nexus 4, and buy the Note 2 to flip for a profit or just buy the Note 2 and forget the Nexus 4.
Had I not tried the Note 2, I would not be having this dilemma, but after trying it, I'm kind of enamored by it.
What would you do and why?
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how is that a steep discount? the note is $420 with a $50 mail in rebate =$370 and the nexus 4 is being sold on the playstore for $300
its a steep discount when you compare the note 2 to its retail price but considering your company is upgrading and renewing a 2 year..its actually costing you $10 more...they are just passing the savings onto you
secondly...if i were you...i'd buy the note 2 and then decide whether or not you actually want to keep it..you can easily sell it for $600+...so you would kinda be getting the nexus 4 for free if you flipped the note 2 then bought the nexus 4

The note 2 available to me is 380$ no contract. They're giving the phones at cost price to us. So I'm not locked into any contract.
Yeah. I'm going to wait a bit till someone has a nexus 4 at work and will try it out.
My plan is either buy note 2 and flip it and get nexus 4 16gb or keep it. We shall see.
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balla786 said:
The note 2 available to me is 380$ no contract. They're giving the phones at cost price to us. So I'm not locked into any contract.
Yeah. I'm going to wait a bit till someone has a nexus 4 at work and will try it out.
My plan is either buy note 2 and flip it and get nexus 4 16gb or keep it. We shall see.
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Not 100% certain why people are ga ga over the nexus 4. There are so many detractors, from microsd slot, to LTE, to removable battery... etc. If it's the unlocked bootloader, or no carrier bloat, just snag a Galaxy Nexus. (and to the guy who said Galaxy phones were behind, uh, the Galaxy Nexus is still far AHEAD of many phones out there. I think you meant the S3 and Note2, which are still AHEAD of most phones out there) At the end of the day, you will miss your roomy microsd, your battery, your S-Pen, etc.
Now if people would just root your phones and tinker more, instead of waiting for the next rom guy to package it for you, we would all be in a better place.

Nexus 6 or Note 4 off topic

I know this is G Pro thread but one day all of us will get another phone. The G pro has been a awesome device. The best phone I have ever had. But I want a new one. So I want the Nexus 6 or Note 4. I am asking yall which one. Yalls advice would be appreciated. I am stuck on deciding both are good. I went into att and looked at both. The note 4 has all the bells and whistles. The nexus 6 is big I like. The Nexus will get all the updates first. The Note 4 will not which really does not matter since we root and flash our phones. I would love to hear yalls input on this thanks.

jason504 said:
I know this is G Pro thread but one day all of us will get another phone. The G pro has been a awesome device. The best phone I have ever had. But I want a new one. So I want the Nexus 6 or Note 4. I am asking yall which one. Yalls advice would be appreciated. I am stuck on deciding both are good. I went into att and looked at both. The note 4 has all the bells and whistles. The nexus 6 is big I like. The Nexus will get all the updates first. The Note 4 will not which really does not matter since we root and flash our phones. I would love to hear yalls input on this thanks.
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i feel the need to get another phone myself, been thinking on the note 3 before im not able to get from att, and the final price of these phones are getting rediculous, i paid 389 for the g pro, the note 4 is 825! nexus 6 on att 683, my dilemma is note 3 is 699 final and a lil outdated to some, but i have to do the next plan on att so its a matter of how much im willing to spend in taxes. i dont have the money to drop these prices on the phone outright so att being my carrier gotta go with what ya can afford. have an expensive phone and drive a rollscanhardly or save some loot and drive a spark..... decisions decisions! 825 for the note 4! that damn thing better read my mind, play ps4 and xbox games, and get me high at the same time. oh and make bacon too

Note 4 the way to go
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I'm staying
I am staying with the g pro I'm not changing phone till there no more custom roms left. There some people that don't even have smartphone.

I'll be staying with the OGP till there are quality 64-bit devices worth buying.
If I had to choose today between the nexus 6 and the note 4, I would take the Nate 4 due to:
1. Screen quality
2. Better battery life
3. Removable battery
4. SD
5. S-pen, adds some benefits
Nexus 6 is about the development community more than anything though, there should be plenty of community support for the note 4 as well.

LG G Pro 2
Nuff said.

phatmanxxl said:
LG G Pro 2
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Not released in the US
and not much, last time I checked, happening for development, though a very good device.

capnloo said:
i feel the need to get another phone myself, been thinking on the note 3 before im not able to get from att, and the final price of these phones are getting rediculous, i paid 389 for the g pro, the note 4 is 825! nexus 6 on att 683, my dilemma is note 3 is 699 final and a lil outdated to some, but i have to do the next plan on att so its a matter of how much im willing to spend in taxes. i dont have the money to drop these prices on the phone outright so att being my carrier gotta go with what ya can afford. have an expensive phone and drive a rollscanhardly or save some loot and drive a spark..... decisions decisions! 825 for the note 4! that damn thing better read my mind, play ps4 and xbox games, and get me high at the same time. oh and make bacon too
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Did you see the new lg g 3 Vista? It is 5.7 in and it is only 375$. I mean it's not the best but it looks like a good phone. Check it out

I'd rather get 1+1 if price is a problem. Nexus 6 and Note 4 aren't very smooth (some reviews said so). Maybe because the QHD screen. And if I want a new phone, I want it to have no lag at all.
Xperia Z3 Compact is very alluring, 801 with 720p. The battery is very good too. But the screen is smaller and that might become a problem for you. I'll definitely get this device if I can't get the 1+1.
If you want to wait though, device with snapdragon 810 is around the corner (february?). Rumor also said 1+2 will be coming soon.

Charles7 said:
I'll be staying with the OGP till there are quality 64-bit devices worth buying.
If I had to choose today between the nexus 6 and the note 4, I would take the Nate 4 due to:
1. Screen quality
2. Better battery life
3. Removable battery
4. SD
5. S-pen, adds some benefits
Nexus 6 is about the development community more than anything though, there should be plenty of community support for the note 4 as well.
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love those features!
note 4 has physical button to wake, it's a plus unless you have the double tap to wake.

The external SD card is a nice feature on any phone. But no devices get supported in an official way like nexus devices, both vanilla Android from Google and the various roms from the developer community both end up supporting the devices real well.

That's one of the reasons why I am leaning towards the nexus 6 because of development and updates. But that note 4 does have some cool stuff. Someone mentioned the 1+1 when that phone came out I was all on it. Thinking this is great high specs cheap price. Then they pulled this invite crap. They lost me good luck still trying to get one.

I would suggest to wait till almost quarter of next year (2015). You would see some 64 bit devices coming to the smartphone market.
At present I don't think one should spent so much money on Nexus 6 or Note 4 or even Z3.
They are all 32 bit, probably you might not notice a drastic change in you experience moving to any of these device.
Wait for 64 bit chips Snapdragon 808 or 810, wait for 4k screens coming next year.
Waiting now shall prove fruitful for you.
For now I have sold my GPro and bought a used Nexus 5 device, pretty, doing this is pretty common here.
I did not go for a new expensive phone for all the reason I just gave.

How about a G Flex?
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vivebatu said:
How about a G Flex?
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I liked that phone when it came out but was disappointed in the screen resolution. That phone is still just as expensive as the others.

jason504 said:
I liked that phone when it came out but was disappointed in the screen resolution. That phone is still just as expensive as the others.
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IMHO I basically see no 'usable' difference between 720p and 1080p. But that is just my view.
Further a new G Flex is now available for around $300-350, while a note 4 will cost almost double of that, so you could save tons of money for sure
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vivebatu said:
IMHO I basically see no 'usable' difference between 720p and 1080p. But that is just my view.
Further a new G Flex is now available for around $300-350, while a note 4 will cost almost double of that, so you could save tons of money for sure
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I was in att about 2 months ago a d the flex was the same price it was when it came out. But that's att they are always high. But I want a phone with real good development. I have not looked at the flex development might check it out thanks for your input I appreciate it.

[Q] Buy now or wait until S6 release?

Hey all, have been looking hard at the Note 4 as replacement for my aging 4S. Looking to get away from ios, wouldn't be my first android device nor my first samsung. I would be buying the phone full price, no contract, and was wondering if I should buy now or wait till the S6 release and see if there is a price drop?
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Coop

Check slickdeals.net they have deals for note 4
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Galaxy S6 release won't effect the price of the Galaxy Note 4...
Both are two different series in phone..
Now if you want Galaxy S6, it will b cheaper then Note 4
The price of the Galaxy S6 should b the retail price of the Galaxy S5 today... Note 4 stays the same...
3 months back I made the switch from iPhone 4S to Note 4 glad I did... all iPhones are the same
Note 4 has the removable battery and SD slot that the Galaxy S6 and iPhone don't have
In many ways the Galaxy S6 is a step back from Galaxy S5 I just like the look better and new figure print sensor but looks are not everything, it's features or what it includes also sells the phone... I won't b buying Galaxy S6 nor Note 5
Phones are personal preference, so goodluck! I can say I just recently read something about Best Buy having a good deal on Note 4 like $200 off retail price or something close but I didn't read to much into it, it may only have been for people who sign up on a contract...
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nemopsp said:
Phones are personal preference, so goodluck! I can say I just recently read something about Best Buy having a good deal on Note 4 like $200 off retail price or something close but I didn't read to much into it, it may only have been for people who sign up on a contract...
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Those Best Buy deals were for contract Note 4s.
I got my Note 4 a few weeks ago to replace an LG G3 my son decided to throw and destroy. I was going to wait for the S6...and I still think I'm going to get one...but the N4 is a fantastic phone and you can't go wrong with it if you like the size. I'm really happy w/ the Lollipop update except for the lock screen notifications (I wish it was like stock android still...doubt tap to open is a MUST) so I can definitely recommend it without reservation.
I just want the same camera (or better) in a smaller footprint. The camera is probably the most important aspect in a phone to me, so the S6 is really enticing since it's essentially the Note with a smaller form factor. Removeable battery and SD Card don't even move the needle for me, so that's not an issue.

dbdynsty25 said:
Those Best Buy deals were for contract Note 4s.
I got my Note 4 a few weeks ago to replace an LG G3 my son decided to throw and destroy. I was going to wait for the S6...and I still think I'm going to get one...but the N4 is a fantastic phone and you can't go wrong with it if you like the size. I'm really happy w/ the Lollipop update except for the lock screen notifications (I wish it was like stock android still...doubt tap to open is a MUST) so I can definitely recommend it without reservation.
I just want the same camera (or better) in a smaller footprint. The camera is probably the most important aspect in a phone to me, so the S6 is really enticing since it's essentially the Note with a smaller form factor. Removeable battery and SD Card don't even move the needle for me, so that's not an issue.
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I'm still on the 4.4.4 kitkat update... tho I do have the OTA of 5.0.1... but I don't like the notification pop up... so I'm staying where I am and 5.0.1 isn't much of a update rather wait for 5.1
But personally coming from a iPhone with out a removable battery and SD card really limits the phone.. space wise and battery
I guess depends on how much you update phones but personally, I update every 2 to 3 years an once the phone get to 1st year on a internal battery. It don't last as long and needs to b replaced. For this reaosn removable battery is nice just simply buy a new battery for like $12, all fixed... where on internal phone it's going to cost you $60 mayb more from a phone repair store... or if you do it your self it would b like $20 but a pain (talking from experience, just not simple)
SD card is nice just to add extra storage your right it don't move from my phone but it's having it what counts... Note 4 has 32gb plus 64gb sd card... no reason to need space but on 32gb my phone would b full... plus i bought 64gb card for $30
These are two reasons y I came to this phone and away from iPhones, my iPhone is still a great phone but needs a new battery so I put the money towards a new phone instead since I kno it will have same issue in time... plus memory was always a struggle phone always full, alot times went to take a pic just to see a pop saying not enough free space....
Plus the note 4 camera is great... It's very close to the one in Galaxy S6... not much difference...
As I said its all personal preference... it's what you want and how your going to use the phone...
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note 5

Are u Happy or sad with direction they are taking the note line?

nope

No but I do like the design and the similarities with the S6 but the battery size stinks. I'll have to see how the battery lasts before I decide to buy one or not. The non removable battery and lack of externalSD are workable for me but a lame battery is not.

At this point like my computer i have to have at least a second drive. Being I have Note 4 DE and having failed SDcards I do have my stuff on my computer but the ease of backups and other items on my SDcard is huge for me especially when I change roms. Battery size is also important and right now this Note 4 has all I want.

Just makes me glad I have a Note 4! I like having a replaceable battery and I keep buying bigger and bigger SD cards.
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No SD card is kind of a pain, but it's not the end of the world to me.
What I'm more interested in is finding out if Samsung will be releasing a developer edition!

I'm planning to keep my Note 4 DE til something cool comes along from another manufacturer. It's pretty obvious it will be my last Samsung phone. Also I have no contracts with Verizon now, as of this month. I'm going to check out the actual coverage of the other carriers. Of course if they really can't compare I'll stay with Verizon. Coverage is the only reason I signed up with them in the first place. I don't really mind if congestion slows them down some. I'm not going to put up with lost coverage.

stueycaster said:
I'm planning to keep my Note 4 DE til something cool comes along from another manufacturer. It's pretty obvious it will be my last Samsung phone. Also I have no contracts with Verizon now, as of this month. I'm going to check out the actual coverage of the other carriers. Of course if they really can't compare I'll stay with Verizon. Coverage is the only reason I signed up with them in the first place. I don't really mind if congestion slows them down some. I'm not going to put up with lost coverage.
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I'm in the same boat. I would love to move to TMO but their coverage here is worst than "stinkie"...I mean like 2g is the best I can expect in my area.

I heard to compete with T-Mobile Verizon is did continuing the 2 year subsidiary plan contracts..... So without that I assume the Note 5 will be hella expensive.. Cause the only option would be to buy out right or V. edge type of installment plans
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I am also sticking with my note 4 because I don't like anything about the note 5, I heard LG might be coming out with a note, is it true?

Note 5 is a joke! 3000mah battery, 32 or 64 gb only, no removable battery and no sd card slot. Not much worth the upgrade. I'm definitely waiting for the new LG Pro that will be better than the Note 5.
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outcasted2003 said:
Note 5 is a joke! 3000mah battery, 32 or 64 gb only, no removable battery and no sd card slot. Not much worth the upgrade. I'm definitely waiting for the new LG Pro that will be better than the Note 5.
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I came from the G4 and wasn't impressed with LG at all. The build quality stinks. I also had a S6 witch I liked a lot but prefer the display and size of the Note 4. If the battery on the Note 5 lasts like the S6 did for me I'll be OK with that. I has getting 2 to 3 days on one charge witch is fine for me.

You must be a very light user. Most people who are heavy users get about 6-7 hours tops on the GS6.
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outcasted2003 said:
You must be a very light user. Most people who are heavy users get about 6-7 hours tops on the GS6.
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Yes, I'm a light user. My son has to charge his every day but it dose last him the day. It's definitely not for heavy users but at least it has wireless charging built in.

No way, no how, never, never, never
I never put my DE Note 4 on a charger. I go through up to four batteries a day. Just replace the battery and keep on rockin in the Free World . I sleep with the thing in my shirt pocket to get alarms. I am almost always online watching security Camaras, checking email banking alerts, tracking shipping using the hotspot or just using the thing for entertainment. I would go back to the Note 2 before I got a phone without a replaceable battery. I will never be tied down to a battery charger again. Don't even think about it.

I think the number 5 isn't a good number for Samsung. I think the Note 5 is going to go the same path as the S5. It isn't impressive enough to upgrade to from a Note 4. In fact, I think Samsung has taken several steps backwards, no SD, no replaceable battery, and smaller capacity battery. This is not a step forward in my opinion. I'm going to keep my Note 4 and look elsewhere if I need to. Sad...

Upgrade to Note 4 worth it?

Am using a Note II with DN4 ROM which has all UI and app updates till Note 4. Have been using the phone since the past 3 years now. Have got bored off it now.
Was waiting for the Note 5 but Samsung guys screwed up by not having expandable memory slot and a removable battery (non negotiable for me) So, was thinking should I wait for another year for the next gen Note (which MAY have the said options) or should I settle down for a generation old Note 4. The downside I feel is I've already experienced the Note 4 features (which are hardware compatible anyways). Would the screen and snappier processor be worh it?
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Ive used the note 4 my cousin has.. Its basically the same but a little faster which is not noticeable on daily use. The camera is better for sure, but it is not a priority for me and definitely not worth that money. I can get a point and shoot camera for much less.
And i dont want the note 5 for similar reasons.
. First.. Its almost similar again. There's nothing new
Second and third..no expandable memory and no removable battery
Fourth..no ir blaster which was one thing i really wanted on my note 2.
Fifth: glass back..ill need to spend more on screen guards.
And that is why im going for the iphone this time. Ill always have the note 2 to test all the latest cyanogen mods and others.

Ok. No.. I'm now back to comparing s6 edge plus and the note 5.
I can live with the five things note 5 doesnt have.. but i wont be able to live with the limited stuff on apple.
You cant even download a file properly there.. wtf.
The otd pen drive costs 2500 bucks. It costs 50 bucks on the android.. woth an otg cable..
The camera is better. (I've seen almosr all the shootouts.. even tho the reviewers seem oddly apple sided)
The iphone 6s is so fragile (scratch and drop tests) i drop my phone all the time..
The battery life.
Do tell me what you went with. I think I'll wait for Diwali for prices to go down a bit.