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Hey!
I have been rooted my Defy and overclockrd it to 1Ghz. And it feels good now
But the question is, is there still something that I could do to get even more better performance out of Defy?
And yes, I know that flashing CM7 makes it faster, but Im not gonna flash anything yet coz' I have no experience about flashing. And Im bit careful with my defy.
I really want to know how to get whole performance out of this awesome device
And gaming. I've heard about "chainfire3D", will it make 3D and HD games more smoothly and better gaming experience?
Thanks in advace!
install an Applauncher like ADW Launcher to optimize the Appdrawer.
Julian
As far as I know chainfire3D improves performance only in games which are designed for Tegra GPU. Don't worry about Flashing CM7, you can always downgrade to Froyo (Btw, if you have 2.1 to improve performance you can flash 2.2 in official way using Motorola Software Update). Defy is almost unbrickable so you cannot do anything wrong.
juli9797 said:
install an Applauncher like ADW Launcher to optimize the Appdrawer.
Julian
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Which is better ADW or GO luncher?
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IMO, Go Launcher Ex is better. It is smoother and does not lag at all! Furthermore, the App Drawer is really nice , you can make it look like iOS - you'll have these tiny x's above the apps if you drag and hold your finger on them if you want to delete them or move.
ADW launcher is good, its still smooth, but go launcher is faster.
Chrisxe said:
IMO, Go Launcher Ex is better. It is smoother and does not lag at all! Furthermore, the App Drawer is really nice , you can make it look like iOS - you'll have these tiny x's above the apps if you drag and hold your finger on them if you want to delete them or move.
ADW launcher is good, its still smooth, but go launcher is faster.
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I second that.
My first launcher was ADW. It's really nice launcher but sometimes it's laggy and consumes much more CPU. GO Launcher runs smooth with any transation/effect i choose and has some nice tools like recent and running app in app drawer.
I think if you don't feel comfortable using CM7, Chainfire 3D is a no go either, it's safer but still can screw your system
You can also use Titanium Backup to "freeze" some apps you don't frequently use that still consume resources
the best launcher is launcherpro imo. it uses 3g acceleration for the animations, so it runs way smoother than other launchers, and its incredibly fast! and in launcherpro, you have the opportunity to hide apps in the app drawer. but the first step in increasing performance would definitely be to update to a 2.2 kernel than flashing cm7 (i recommend the 110909 nightly)!
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the best launcher is launcherpro imo. it uses 3g acceleration for the animations, so it runs way smoother than other launchers, and its incredibly fast! and in launcherpro, you have the opportunity to hide apps in the app drawer. but the first step in increasing performance would definitely be to update to a 2.2 kernel than flashing cm7 (i recommend the 110909 nightly)!
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I will go for Launcher Pro Plus too ...
Hmmm.. Somehow I can't get that orginal homescreen back?
In my opinion ADW launcher is better than GoLauncher Ex.
But that is my opinion!
Julian
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Hmmm.. Somehow I can't get that orginal homescreen back?
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The Blur Launcher runs in background and i can't be killed (in stock roms).
You can use apps like Home Manager or Home Switcher to switch between launchers
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Hey!
And yes, I know that flashing CM7 makes it faster, but Im not gonna flash anything yet coz' I have no experience about flashing. And Im bit careful with my defy.
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I would guess you already have 2.2 stock. If not, you're missing an easy improvement.
I also thought I needed to learn more before trying CM7 so it took me quite a while to flash it. The only thing I can say now is that it makes me appreciate even more how much faster CM7 is than stock 2.2. I wish I had tried it before.
I'm still having some problems with wifi, but I just can't go back anymore, stock is just too slow.
As for a launcher, try Zeam Launcher, pretty quick.
+1 for the Zeam Launcher. App launchers are just that. They should consume a minimal amount of resource so that the applications that really matter have more room to play with.
If you have a stock rom, it is really quite possible to take out moto's home app. You need to be rooted (and of course, you need to be careful)
Regarding the question about not seeing the original home launcher, i think the easiest thing to do is to uninstall the 3rd party app launcher. If the original home app is still installed, you *should then be able to see it again on the foreground.
For original home launcher fix go to market and search for "moto home fix". Read it and install.
And when you want to go back on original launcher, go to settings-applications-manage applications and select your current launcher.
Then click "clear defaults" and press home button.
Menu for choosing launcher will promp.
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Zeam launcher has the best performance, but lacks some features. Best Alternative is LauncherPro, in my opinion.
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I would guess you already have 2.2 stock. If not, you're missing an easy improvement.
I also thought I needed to learn more before trying CM7 so it took me quite a while to flash it. The only thing I can say now is that it makes me appreciate even more how much faster CM7 is than stock 2.2. I wish I had tried it before.
I'm still having some problems with wifi, but I just can't go back anymore, stock is just too slow.
As for a launcher, try Zeam Launcher, pretty quick.
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Yes, I have 2.2.2
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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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One thread is enough, you don't have to post the same question in multiple sections.
As I said on your other thread, stop blaming the device and look at your apps. My 8.0 isn't laggy at all. In fact it's pretty zippy. Chances are one of your apps is causing the issue or you have too much stuff filling your memory. Do a factory reset. If the lag stays gone add your apps back a couple at a time till you find the one that's not playing nice. How much free space/memory do you have left? The fact that the lag goes away when you reboot points to it being an app problem.
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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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go to developers options and turn off all animations,
also disable CPU power saving option in power saving mode,
then check if you feel any difference
Thanks for replies guys!
So I believe it was ram issue. Too little ram left when it was stuttering really bad. However, I'm wondering why this device was not releasing ram by closing open apps for the forgoing app to run well. This is the android way of managing ram isn't it? But when I checked the ram manager in the task manager app that came with the tab, there was very little ram left, less than 100mb I believe.
After I have been using it for more now, I also rooted it, and I deleted almost all the unnecessary bloatware. I think I see a huge improvement in performance after I did this, deleting bloatware.
The tablet runs pretty well now.
Although..I still see some stutters in animations, where the animation has dropped frame rates. Is this just due to Touchwiz? It doesn't happen every time, but sometime when opening app, or switching between apps in recent apps panel. The animations sometimes are pretty choppy. It is not a huge deal, but I just remember that my S2X was much smoother. Maybe it's because I was running a custom rom which was heavily tweaked by deviant development.
Any info would be great!
Thanks for your help again guys.
Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the home button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the joke button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Gede said:
Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Okay thanks for letting me know. Now I need to find why sometimes it lags even though it's better than before now. Hmm..
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I get homescreen redraws - constantly. I have tried removing every widget possible, changing every setting, and all the ''keep activities etc'' unchecked, keep homescreen in memory. I need help on this. It's driving me crazy. I've tried live wallpapers, regular wallpapers. I can't think of anything else.
Redraws drive everyone crazy.
But in order to help you, we need some details like Android version, root, ROM, kernel, launcher, total apps installed, free RAM..
If you haven't rooted your phone, I'd suggest you to do it and get rid of the unwanted apps.
If you have root, try changing kernels to find out the one that suits ur ROM.
Also, you can install Greenify to restrict background apps.
My guess is that you have so many apps running in the background and eating RAM that the launcher has to be cleared out of memory. Check your available RAM.
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AndyYan said:
My guess is that you have so many apps running in the background and eating RAM that the launcher has to be cleared out of memory. Check your available RAM.
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I am running Beanstalk, 4.2.2 build. I was using the kernel that came with the rom, which I guess CM based. I was using stock launcher but switched over to the KK Launcher. Not sure about free RAM as I flashed Mopang's kernel after I read both of your responses. According to System Panel, I don't have that much running in the background. Is there a better app to use to help manage that?
Looking at "apps" it shows I have about 270mbs of RAM.
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I am running Beanstalk, 4.2.2 build. I was using the kernel that came with the rom, which I guess CM based. I was using stock launcher but switched over to the KK Launcher. Not sure about free RAM as I flashed Mopang's kernel after I read both of your responses. According to System Panel, I don't have that much running in the background. Is there a better app to use to help manage that?
Looking at "apps" it shows I have about 270mbs of RAM.
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Are you still getting launcher redraws with 270mb free RAM?
And do you mean 4.2.2 or 4.4.2?
A few suggestions would be to switch to a 4.4.2 ROM now that they are almost stable.
Else try some other launcher like Nova, or Apex.
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Are you still getting launcher redraws with 270mb free RAM?
And do you mean 4.2.2 or 4.4.2?
A few suggestions would be to switch to a 4.4.2 ROM now that they are almost stable.
Else try some other launcher like Nova, or Apex.
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I haven't had one yet since I have installed the other kernel... I am on 4.2.2. All the KK Roms I've tried have been really choppy and slow, or don't have all the features I like. I'm open to suggestions though. I am on the Sprint network. I will try another launcher if it keeps happening. I wish I had a more definitive idea of what is causing it. My girlfriend never has these problems and is using the same launcher has me. I set up most of her phone as well.
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I haven't had one yet since I have installed the other kernel... I am on 4.2.2. All the KK Roms I've tried have been really choppy and slow, or don't have all the features I like. I'm open to suggestions though. I am on the Sprint network. I will try another launcher if it keeps happening. I wish I had a more definitive idea of what is causing it. My girlfriend never has these problems and is using the same launcher has me. I set up most of her phone as well.
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try using lagfix app from the play store , should take care your problem on a 4.2 rom
I have a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 SM-T520.
i just tried the new Tab S 10.5 and it is way smoother than the Tab Pro 10.1, has anyone else noticed this?
Now because these devices are pretty much identical except for the extra 1gb of RAM in the Tab S, so if I increase the RAM in my Tab Pro using Roehsoft Ram Expander could I expect my Tab Pro 10.1 will become smoother?
Also would I be able to flash the Tab S ROM on my Tab Pro? would it work without any problems? In case it has more optimized software?
Kind feel gipped that both devices are essentially the same yet the Tab S is miles smoother.
Thanks Guys
Both Tab S and Tab Pro have 3gb ram don't they.
I have the 12.2 Tab Pro and that says it as 3gb ram
Only the 12.2.
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Both Tab S and Tab Pro have 3gb ram don't they.
I have the 12.2 Tab Pro and that says it as 3gb ram
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10.1 has 2 GB.
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bought the 10.1 at BB on release day and have been there several times lately looking at the S and besides tthe screen size and improved screen (this doesnt mean that much to me) i am very pleased with the 10.1 and they seem to behave the same with all my looking.
i dont think having their rom would change anything and honeslty my 10.1 isnt laggy and has replaced my laptop for everything but for work.
i am certain that we will see some kind of S Pro or something hit later this year when the holidays hit and i will jump then.
i turned on Developer Options and set animations to 0 as i always do on everything and mine runs smooth.
Sammy has just this week firgured out how to actually get 6 of the 8 cores working together at once and we havent seen that update and probabaly wont for some time and that will make a huge difference.
also if like me you are on the web a lot with all that white background you will get better battery life on 10.1 but if your a video person with all the black background time you gain with the S.
I think all new android devices run the smoothest when they are new. As you download apps u can't help but have stuff running in the background. Android devices tend to slow down the longer you have them based on my experience.
I imagine demo mode is probably meant to run as fast as possible so that buyers aren't turned off by lag etc. If you have lag on your pro it has to have something to do with an app pulling too much ram. However, that extra 1gb of ram probably makes a difference. I know it did with my note 3 vs every other Samsung device I've owned. My pro 8.4 doesn't lag but it doesn't feel as fast as my note 2014 did while I had it. Software optimization has never been Samsung's strong suit.
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colts187 said:
I think all new android devices run the smoothest when they are new. As you download apps u can't help but have stuff running in the background. Android devices tend to slow down the longer you have them based on my experience.
I imagine demo mode is probably meant to run as fast as possible so that buyers aren't turned off by lag etc. If you have lag on your pro it has to have something to do with an app pulling too much ram. However, that extra 1gb of ram probably makes a difference. I know it did with my note 3 vs every other Samsung device I've owned. My pro 8.4 doesn't lag but it doesn't feel as fast as my note 2014 did while I had it. Software optimization has never been Samsung's strong suit.
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To be honest the best thing you can do to fight lag on the tab pro is dump the horrible Magazine UX launcher. Samsung really sucks as a software company and it really shows with Magazine UX. Google OTOH makes some of the best software and it shows with the Google Now Launcher.
BTW I tried really hard to force myself to use magazine ux for 6 weeks after I got my tab pro. What a waste of time. I was wondering why my battery always ran down fast, and the app drawer was laggy etc. But it turned out it was the god-awful Touchwiz/Magazine UX bullsht the whole time. Switched to GNL and it was like i had a new tablet (again!)
Seriously if anyone is complaining about lag and is still using Touchwiz, I'd say that the solution is right in front of their nose, lol
What should I do if I want to switch to GNL..just install it from play store ?
Do I have to uninstall the Touchwiz as well ?
Can I go back to Touchwiz if don't like the GNL at a later time ?
Thanks
Obing said:
What should I do if I want to switch to GNL..just install it from play store ?
Do I have to uninstall the Touchwiz as well ?
Can I go back to Touchwiz if don't like the GNL at a later time ?
Thanks
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no, u can only install it from the play store if you have a Nexus device. for Galaxy Tab devices, you need to sideload the apk.
see here:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-drive-google-now-launcher-and-play-services/
No need to uninstall Touchwiz. it stays on your device, but it won't be always running if you switch to GNL.
of course you can switch back later if you want. btw if u decide to switch to GNL, i suggest removing all icons/widgets from your Touchwiz home screens and re-adding them to your GNL home screens.
Thanks and will try soon..
I can only speak of the Tab Pro 8.4. But it was laggy on TouchWiz, and going to a CM based ROM made it much smoother. Honestly, I don't see any of the TouchWiz features (with exception of MultiWindow) to be of any added value; and I'm hardly missing TouchWiz one bit (again, MW is all I miss).
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I can only speak of the Tab Pro 8.4. But it was laggy on TouchWiz, and going to a CM based ROM made it much smoother. Honestly, I don't see any of the TouchWiz features (with exception of MultiWindow) to be of any added value; and I'm hardly missing TouchWiz one bit (again, MW is all I miss).
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personally i use All Share, Hancom Widget, WatchON, love Samsung Calendar, SideSync, love the Email, and a few others i am sure i am forgetting. i use to despise TW and all layovers but TW has grown on me. like my Note 3 i will take the custom TW based Roms and use Root and Xposed to customize it the way i like versus trying to force back CM like Roms to give me the TW features back i like which never works right when going that direction.
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personally i use All Share, Hancom Widget, WatchON, love Samsung Calendar, SideSync, love the Email, and a few others i am sure i am forgetting. i use to despise TW and all layovers but TW has grown on me.
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Yup, I completely recognize its a matter of personal taste, how you use your device, etc. I kinda had a love/hate relationship with WatchON. The rest, I either didn't have much use for, or didn't like them. I actually stayed stock on my Note 8 for the year I used it (broke the screen), but I am the opposite of you on the Tab Pro (how TouchWiz grew on you), I was fine with TouchWiz before and for whatever reason now I can't stand it. I was using CleanROM for a couple months. But now I'm on Codename Lungo (CM based) and can't imagine going back to a TouchWiz ROM.
Is it just my phone that stutters quite frequently or is this just a general problem with the m9? All the reviewers said something along the lines of "this phone is a speed beast" or something like that but I hate the stuttering. My brother's Nexus 6 is time and time again smoother than my phone. For example, when I go on nova launcher with a vertical scrolling app drawer and scroll, the m9 stutters when scrolling while the Nexus 6 is at a constant 60fps. Yet when I looked it up online everyone said the m9 was faster. Also, could this be a problem with the ROM, would I be better off with a custom ROM such as CM or ADHD? This lag is especially annoying since I paid good money for my phone
Is it just my phone that's bad or is this the snapdragon 810?
try to play with scrolling options in nova settings. there shouldn't be a problem normally, also be sure to keep power saver off, it will make the phone lag and stutter/slow
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try to play with scrolling options in nova settings. there shouldn't be a problem normally, also be sure to keep power saver off, it will make the phone lag and stutter/slow
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I have power saver off and changing the settings does no good, I still get small stuttering when I scroll, although since I got custom Roms it's been reduced, it's still there. But thanks anyway
i really had no problems with stock, aswell as my dad, he is f ull unrooted and no laggs or whatsoever. ICE 10 port is awesome and with ex kernel i have really no lags or stutter or so
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
i really had no problems with stock, aswell as my dad, he is f ull unrooted and no laggs or whatsoever. ICE 10 port is awesome and with ex kernel i have really no lags or stutter or so
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I noticed the scrolling in the Nexus 5x is different, it's a lot slower so it's smoother, is there a way to get the same thing on the HTC one m9
Where do you notice these stutter when scrolling? In apps? Or where?
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Nova launcher when using vertical drawers, I can also see it in action launcher and Google launcher, I really want to get to the bottom of this lag.
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Nova launcher when using vertical drawers, I can also see it in action launcher and Google launcher, I really want to get to the bottom of this lag.
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nova shouldn't lag, the others are ****ty. just play around with the drawer settings in nova. sense launcher for example does not lag a bit, also when using nova, tried it now with every drawer, it works as it should, without stutter and lag
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
nova shouldn't lag, the others are ****ty. just play around with the drawer settings in nova. sense launcher for example does not lag a bit, also when using nova, tried it now with every drawer, it works as it should, without stutter and lag
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I think I have a fix, basically I was going through the kernel settings in my ROM and I turned all my cores minimum frequency to 768mhz and now when I run nova I get 0 stutter and lag, I'm guessing my phone was just turning the core frequency down too much, this still doesn't explain why you don't get lag but I guess a fix is a fix. Since getting 60fps everywhere on my phone I'm in a sense of euphoria, also do you know a way for me to manage my CPU settings on an app basis