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Hello, I have a question...
On the 25th of April, I joined my Moms Sprint plan, and signed up and got the Sprint Hero. I did this at Radioshack, and according to account management, I have an upgrade already? Says I recieved it on the first of May. Is this a real upgrade, or just a glitch in the system? My wife also signed up on that same day and had a upgrade as well, we used it to get a phone, and it went through and everything, so I assume it's real..
Anyways, my question. I'm wanting to upgrade to the EVO on the 4th, what do I have to do with my current Sprint Hero? I was wanting to sell it on eBay as they sell for ~$200, which would cover the Evo. But, do I have to wait a certain time frame before I can sell it since I just bought it on the 25th as it was discounted, not paying full retail? I'd rather sell it then doing the trade-in thing through radioshack and only getting half what it's worth.
Thanks for any responses. Hope this is clear on what I'm asking...
Upgrade, pay for the phone and sell your hero after.
or
Get a cheap prepaid phone or extra phone lying around the house.
Call and change the ESN number
Sell your Hero
Hold the cash until June 4th
This will give you plenty of time to customize the Hero and sell it as is.
Does the whole Radioshack making you stay with your phone for 181 days or whatever only apply to online? I didn't pay the most attention when it was all keeping set up, but I believe they said I need to keep the phone active for 30 days. So is it safe to assume that after the 25th I can go ahead and sell the hero and switch to whatever phone I want to? And would Radioshack still offer me the upgrade for the Evo if I no longer have my Hero and am just using some cheap phone?
jkinnison90 said:
Does the whole Radioshack making you stay with your phone for 181 days or whatever only apply to online? I didn't pay the most attention when it was all keeping set up, but I believe they said I need to keep the phone active for 30 days. So is it safe to assume that after the 25th I can go ahead and sell the hero and switch to whatever phone I want to? And would Radioshack still offer me the upgrade for the Evo if I no longer have my Hero and am just using some cheap phone?
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If you're eligible for upgrade you'll be eligible at RS. They will be able to see your eligibility just fine. I WOULD however go to a Sprint corporate store and make sure you are eligible for an upgrade and not an EARLY upgrade. There is a difference in the amount you would be paying for the phone. Once you verify with them then head over to RS and pre-order.
By the way don't get the insurance through Radioshack. Get it through Sprint. Radioshack will tell you they give you a loaner phone but I believe it to be BS. Just pay the $7 through Sprint and eat the deductible. It's a better process overall.
it's an upgrade, according to sprint.com it's $150 off.
not sure why i'm eligble for an upgrade when i just got the line under 30 days ago..
i think i'll probably end up keeping the hero until i get the evo and then sell it to play it safe.
Can anyone else help with this situation? More answers would make me more comfortable. Don't want to be charged full price for the Hero or anything :\
jkinnison90 said:
Can anyone else help with this situation? More answers would make me more comfortable. Don't want to be charged full price for the Hero or anything :\
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As long as the system says you're eligible, its fine. Sometimes these things happen. You wont have any issues from the shack if you go ahead and use that upgrade. (Assuming you got it from a store and not online)
So, as said above, get your EVO then sell the hero to recover the cash
*I'm a manager for Radioshack if it makes you feel better*
I only have $75 off from Sprint to upgrade, so what is the cheapest method into getting the ET4G? Many websites unfortunately only take account the upgrade price if you're 2 years in, but most don't give you an option if you're between 1 and 2 years between contracts.
adelmundo said:
I only have $75 off from Sprint to upgrade, so what is the cheapest method into getting the ET4G? Many websites unfortunately only take account the upgrade price if you're 2 years in, but most don't give you an option if you're between 1 and 2 years between contracts.
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Cheapest way is through Sprint. Their retail price is $499 for the phone at Sprint stores. That's quite a bit cheaper than through other resellers.
Depending on what your coming from, you may be able to sell your old phone on ebay or craigslist to recoup some of the cost.
The other option is to wait. I have no doubts that this phone, while impressive right now, will be outclassed in a few months. By the time you can cash in your full discounted upgrade, there will be something bigger and badder... or the E4GT will be much cheaper.
Keep in mind, you'll have to go another two years if you cash in that $75. Not worth it in my opinion... it's just a phone.
$75 is NOT worth re-upping your contract for 2 years. I went ahead and paid pull price for the phone and I will keep my full upgrade for next spring when the hopefully the LTE phones are out
Best Buy gave the phone for$399.99 and I also was only qualified for a $75 discount. That and the gave me $97 bucks for my old Epic thus I got this bad boy for about $300 and change.
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misterio53 said:
Best Buy gave the phone for$399.99 and I also was only qualified for a $75 discount. That and the gave me $97 bucks for my old Epic thus I got this bad boy for about $300 and change.
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U had to renew a contract?
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Yeah I renew it, and I also had some gift cards so the price of the phone was a little under $300 with taxes
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What i did was early terminate for $80 and started a new contract and got the phone for $199 plus acctivation. If you already got the phone wih only a 75 discount have ur accout reversed and do the early termination thing
p.s. If u do the account reversal you will need an old sprint phone to temperarily put ur number back on or they will charge u a restocking fee of 35 dollars
xx8todiefor6xx said:
What i did was early terminate for $80 and started a new contract and got the phone for $199 plus acctivation. If you already got the phone wih only a 75 discount have ur accout reversed and do the early termination thing
p.s. If u do the account reversal you will need an old sprint phone to temperarily put ur number back on or they will charge u a restocking fee of 35 dollars
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I was thinking of early terminating too. I am 1 year into my contract so it would be $100 for the ETF. Start a new contract and get the phone for $100 at Wal-Mart plus tax and $36 activation fee. The only thing is I want to keep my number so I would have to port it over maybe a prepaid phone or Google voice and then port it back to Sprint?
xx8todiefor6xx said:
What i did was early terminate for $80 and started a new contract and got the phone for $199 plus acctivation. If you already got the phone wih only a 75 discount have ur accout reversed and do the early termination thing
p.s. If u do the account reversal you will need an old sprint phone to temperarily put ur number back on or they will charge u a restocking fee of 35 dollars
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I did this exactly and traded in an Evo which they gave me an 87 credit for. I know I could of got more but it was too easy this way, totally off set the ETA. Phone number change for me wasn't a problem as I give out my Google voice number. I asked the guy at the store if he would just give me the full upgrade price instead of doing this but he said no. It was easy enough.
I was in the same situation. Got one from sprint, did not use it and sent it back because I realize that I could get a brand new one from eBay for cheaper and not use my $75 upgrade and be eligible for the next s3.
Maybe I might wait until after October 11 and see if Samsung and Google will announce the new Galaxy Nexus for Sprint hopefully. If it does come to Sprint I may just ETF and port my number out to a cheap prepaid phone and open a new contract.
Whats your current phone now? I personally think its worth it if you can sell your current phone for a decent amount and use it towards the 4g touch on eBay.
The best way is the Best Buy method. I sold my Evo and a Zune HD straight to Best Buy for about $210...I ended up paying $14 for mine (I had a full upgrade though).
If you've got some other old electronics you never use, I suggest going that route, Best Buy pays out pretty well.
Also, they won't be announcing the Nexus S in October. It'll be the iPhone 5 and MAYBE switching to LTE. IF we get the Nexus S, it won't be til later on.
I sold my Epic on Facebook in 20 minutes for $150, then used the $75 discount. I put down another $75 and billed the rest to my account. Ill have a huge bill next month, but I'm OK with that. But that's really the cheapest route.
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adelmundo said:
I only have $75 off from Sprint to upgrade, so what is the cheapest method into getting the ET4G? Many websites unfortunately only take account the upgrade price if you're 2 years in, but most don't give you an option if you're between 1 and 2 years between contracts.
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I had the same problem and I was willing to just buy the Epic Touch full price without renewing my contract BUT I decided it was worth a shot calling customer service to see what they could do for me.
I got:
$100 account credit
$75 renewal
$75+ phone buyback (I had a bunch of old phones)
Which left me at less than $249 out of pocket.
Then I transfered my OG Epic to my wife, and she ended up getting a brand new OG Epic because the Sprint store couldn't figure out how to swap things over to her correctly and I wasn't about to tell them how
I'm happy with it because we both have brand new phones and like I said before I was ready to just buy it full price... and I still have a full upgrade next spring...
walord said:
I had the same problem and I was willing to just buy the Epic Touch full price without renewing my contract BUT I decided it was worth a shot calling customer service to see what they could do for me.
I got:
$100 account credit
$75 renewal
$75+ phone buyback (I had a bunch of old phones)
Which left me at less than $249 out of pocket.
Then I transfered my OG Epic to my wife, and she ended up getting a brand new OG Epic because the Sprint store couldn't figure out how to swap things over to her correctly and I wasn't about to tell them how
I'm happy with it because we both have brand new phones and like I said before I was ready to just buy it full price... and I still have a full upgrade next spring...
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I did something like that. I get my $75 upgrade tomorrow, I chatted and got $100 credit when I use the $75 and I told a buddy of mine if he wanted my phone for $100 and he said yes so my phone will be around $225.
Subiegsr said:
Whats your current phone now? I personally think its worth it if you can sell your current phone for a decent amount and use it towards the 4g touch on eBay.
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Have an OG Epic right now. I know the going rate is $150 on ebay and Craigslist. But I want to see what they announce on the 11th.
Darkshneider said:
I did something like that. I get my $75 upgrade tomorrow, I chatted and got $100 credit when I use the $75 and I told a buddy of mine if he wanted my phone for $100 and he said yes so my phone will be around $225.
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Wow, you guys are lucky. I must have spoke with 4 Sprint reps to try to get some sort of deal going on. Two over the phone and 2 online. Even one of the guy was telling me to just keep my Evo and wait til next year, "since there will be a newer phone out every year."
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Have an OG Epic right now. I know the going rate is $150 on ebay and Craigslist. But I want to see what they announce on the 11th.
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I see, yeah the 11th is coming up pretty soon anyways. I've noticed that the epic 4g touch prices have dropped quit a bit since I bought mine on eBay. I believe the going rate now is close to $450-60 shipped, I paid $480 for mine. Hopefully I can see my Evo for a decent amount. If you opt out for the new Nexus the price might be a bit lower too for the epic 4g touch.
I talked to T-Mobile and they say they don't offer the 6 months trade in option anymore. Now you have to have half the phone paid off before you can trade in! WTF?
BoboBrazil said:
I talked to T-Mobile and they say they don't offer the 6 months trade in option anymore. Now you have to have half the phone paid off before you can trade in! WTF?
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Which I think is bs. You pay off half the bill on your current phone and then get a new phone only to start all over on payments and you have to make a downpayment.
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Which I think is bs. You pay off half the bill on your current phone and then get a new phone only to start all over on payments and you have to make a downpayment.
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Yeah I was about to join Jump to get a S5 then move to another device in the Fall/Winter. Now They charge $660 for the phone and the payments are $27.50 a month, so after 6 months I'd still owe almost $500. It would take over a year to get it to half what the phone costs. Then they only wanted to offer me $165 for my S4 lol. Jump was a good deal for those who got grandfathered in, but I'm never joining it now. I'll continue to buy my phones outright off Craigslist.
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Yeah I was about to join Jump to get a S5 then move to another device in the Fall/Winter. Now They charge $660 for the phone and the payments are $27.50 a month, so after 6 months I'd still owe almost $500. It would take over a year to get it to half what the phone costs. Then they only wanted to offer me $165 for my S4 lol. Jump was a good deal for those who got grandfathered in, but I'm never joining it now. I'll continue to buy my phones outright off Craigslist.
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Yeah, I've been with T-Mobile since January 2013. I buy phones outright too. This year we went with S4s and they only offered $50 for our S2s. My oldest son now has my S2. You can't get an S2 in as good a shape as mine is off of Ebay for $50 and that's all they offered? Then go look and see how much an S2 refurbished sells for off T-Mobile. I love my S4 but if I upgrade either a family member will get it or I'll sell it myself.
Yeah I was about to join Jump to get a S5 then move to another device in the Fall/Winter.
It would take over a year to get it to half what the phone costs. Jump was a good deal for
those who got grandfathered in, but I'm never joining it now. I'll continue to buy my phones
with classified add site.
just checked the trade in value of the g3 on the tmobile site. comes up showing $139 which is a dollar less than the g2.
ya its not very popular...sadly i bought mine with that in mine. was like if i ever have to sell this, or trade it in...i wont get anything back llol
DaMagicTicket said:
just checked the trade in value of the g3 on the tmobile site. comes up showing $139 which is a dollar less than the g2.
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Atleast we got unlocked bootloaders to change things up, but thats pretty bad for a 700 phone that just came out.
For ****s and giggles, I looked at eBay and they're only going for around 400. Not saying I want to get rid of the G3, but looking to leave my options open. I'm not taking a 300 dollar hit on a month old phone though.
Well at least you'd get more than on a trade-in, lol. I do wish it was more popular though. I've resisted any phone with on screen navbars for quite awhile, but after giving in and trying the G3, it's been a breath of fresh air and I'm loving it.
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Well at least you'd get more than on a trade-in, lol. I do wish it was more popular though.
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It's not completely unpopular, either. Just development is stalled because LG were bastards and locked the bootloader for everyone but us. People just don't want to put in the effort for one unlocked carrier.
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It's not completely unpopular, either. Just development is stalled because LG were bastards and locked the bootloader for everyone but us. People just don't want to put in the effort for one unlocked carrier.
It's definitely not LG that locked the bootloader. That blame belongs to the carrier.
People on swappa are getting around 400-500
Tmobile store offered me 150. I laughed
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People on swappa are getting around 400-500
Tmobile store offered me 150. I laughed
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Swappa is freaking awesome.. Sold my gs5 there within 15 minutes of posting
LG G3
In on the jump program so meh
CheesyNutz said:
In on the jump program so meh
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how do you "meh.." that's what they will give you for it if you jump!. You would be way better off selling it on Swappa or craigslist. Come on Cheesynutz don't be like that.
zone23 said:
how do you "meh.." that's what they will give you for it if you jump!. You would be way better off selling it on Swappa or craigslist. Come on Cheesynutz don't be like that.
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Jump! Gives you half back of what ever you paid, as long as you paid in the other half when you go to use Jump. So if he paid $700 he gets $350 back as long as he has at least $350 paid in on it. I paid $598 for mine so when I have $299 paid in I get $299 trade in on it. Of course you'll ALWAYS get more selling it privately. But if you value convenience over getting top dollar then Jump is great.
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Jump! Gives you half back of what ever you paid, as long as you paid in the other half when you go to use Jump. So if he paid $700 he gets $350 back as long as he has at least $350 paid in on it. I paid $598 for mine so when I have $299 paid in I get $299 trade in on it. Of course you'll ALWAYS get more selling it privately. But if value convenience of getting top dollar then Jump is great.
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Well that sounds like a better deal.
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Jump! Gives you half back of what ever you paid, as long as you paid in the other half when you go to use Jump. So if he paid $700 he gets $350 back as long as he has at least $350 paid in on it. I paid $598 for mine so when I have $299 paid in I get $299 trade in on it. Of course you'll ALWAYS get more selling it privately. But if value convenience of getting top dollar then Jump is great.
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I dont think thats quite how it works.
i think you get $299 via jump for the $598 phone plus watever the value of the trade in is $139. So lets say you want a new phone after two months, you would owe $548 left on the phone but you'll get $438 via jump and still owe tmobile $110 to pay off the phone.
Lets say you get an s5 for $610 and switch after two months. You owe $560 but you would get $305 + $300 trade in credit via jump. So tmobile would owe you $45 credit towards a new phone.
So basically you lose $160 worth of the g3 value after 2 months vs the g5 only being $5 + taxes in both cases.
DaMagicTicket said:
I dont think thats quite how it works.
i think you get $299 via jump for the $598 phone plus watever the value of the trade in is $139. So lets say you want a new phone after two months, you would owe $548 left on the phone but you'll get $438 via jump and still owe tmobile $110 to pay off the phone.
Lets say you get an s5 for $610 and switch after two months. You owe $560 but you would get $305 + $300 trade in credit via jump. So tmobile would owe you $45 credit towards a new phone.
So basically you lose $160 worth of the g3 value after 2 months vs the g5 only being $5 + taxes in both cases.
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Nope. I've used jump 3 times now. It works exactly as I described. But yes at the start of jump you do need to pay the taxes on the full price of the phone up front.
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Also I forgot to add that it costs you $10/month for Jump. But that include's insurance too, which would cost $8/month on its own.
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Jump! Gives you half back of what ever you paid, as long as you paid in the other half when you go to use Jump. So if he paid $700 he gets $350 back as long as he has at least $350 paid in on it. I paid $598 for mine so when I have $299 paid in I get $299 trade in on it. Of course you'll ALWAYS get more selling it privately. But if you value convenience over getting top dollar then Jump is great.
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I think T-Mobile paid my $480 balance off my Flex Jumping to the G3 which I think is more then what I could have got if I sold it. Two different Jump programs though. I'm on the original and wife is on the new one. Not exactly sure the difference but the 1st Jump program is better. I'll probably use my wife's Jump on my next phone. hehe Like you said Jump saves the hassle of selling your phone. I hate the crazy craigslist peeps and sucks getting low balled on the web.
I do know the original Jump you had to pay some money down on the device itself, where now its 0 down, except for taxes. Im not sure of the details of the first Jump plan, I came in right after the second version started.
well i have the latest one during the summers saving specials and used on the galaxy avant that i got for $100. only payed 1 month + the jump and took it to the tmobile store and got $130 credit for which i used to buy the g2 on sale which i swapped for a g3.
I've been on JUMP! since it first came out. The original program (which I am on) allows you to jump twice per year, and they wipe whatever is remaining on your EIP. The first time you use it needs to be at least 6 months from the purchase date, but the 2nd jump can be any time after that. What you pay down on the device originally depends on your credit. For example, I paid $0 down on my S5 (taxes paid up front), and jumped 2 months later to the G3. T-Mobile wiped the remaining EIP on my S5, which was $602. The "new" JUMP! program requires you to pay off 50% of your EIP before you can upgrade, then they wipe the remaining 50%.
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I've been on JUMP! since it first came out. The original program (which I am on) allows you to jump twice per year, and they wipe whatever is remaining on your EIP. The first time you use it needs to be at least 6 months from the purchase date, but the 2nd jump can be any time after that. What you pay down on the device originally depends on your credit. For example, I paid $0 down on my S5 (taxes paid up front), and jumped 2 months later to the G3. T-Mobile wiped the remaining EIP on my S5, which was $602. The "new" JUMP! program requires you to pay off 50% of your EIP before you can upgrade, then they wipe the remaining 50%.
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This is how my JUMP is as well. I paid nothing up front on my Note 3 when I joined T-Mobile. I jumped to the G3 in July, with 0 down, and they paid the rest of the balance on my Note 3. I can now JUMP again whenever I want to. The only thing I'm not clear on is when I can JUMP a 3rd time. Say I JUMP to the Note 4 in October, do I just need to wait until my "2nd year" starts on T-Mobile to JUMP again? I'm really glad I got in on the original JUMP program because the new one doesn't seem that great to me.
But, yeah that trade in value seems really low to me. I got just under $100 for my Nexus 4 when I originally joined T-Mobile in Jan.
Has anyone traded in an Evo 3D and received the $200 gift card from Best Buy? They claim any working smart phone would qualify. I called today and asked, but they said it had to be worth $10 via their trade-in calculator. Of course the phone I have to trade is worth $8. Thanks
I traded in a Evo 4G Lte. It's supposed to be any working smartphone that doesn't have a broken screen. That's what I was told at my local best buy.
I traded in an LG Motion and Samsung Axiom. Never heard of em? That's how little value they hold
got em off a seller for 13 bucks each.
I traded in a working Samsung intercept from I don't even know how many years ago. Wasn't even on their online calculator, but they took it at the store. Winning! EVO 3D should be no question. At all.
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I traded in an EVO 3D, my wife traded in an EVO 4G, and my best friend traded in a Palm Pre for the $200.00 BB GC.
Because I received the phone on Launch Day, Best Buy also gave me $50 additional per phone for buying on Launch Day.
My wife, I, and my friend paid $49.99 on 2 year contract for our Note 4's.
Simply Awesome!
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I traded in an EVO 3D, my wife traded in an EVO 4G, and my best friend traded in a Palm Pre for the $200.00 BB GC.
Because I received the phone on Launch Day, Best Buy also gave me $50 additional per phone for buying on Launch Day.
My wife, I, and my friend paid $49.99 on 2 year contract for our Note 4's.
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Did you purchase from a Best Buy store or BB Mobile Store?
I bought a 29 dollar virgin mobile and traded it in guy said my note 2 was worth 80 and to save 50 bucks lol
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Did you purchase from a Best Buy store or BB Mobile Store?
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I went to an actual Best Buy Store and did the entire transaction from the store. My wife and I Pre-Ordered on 10/4, picked up on 10/17.
Be warned though.... some of the reps have no idea that every Smartphone is eligible for $200.00 (as long as your screen isnt cracked, the phone isnt water damaged, and it powers up on its own).
My friend had issues due to the CSR being an idiot. Luckily there was a Rep who knew his sh*t and he also got a Note 4 on Launch Day.
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I bought a 29 dollar virgin mobile and traded it in guy said my note 2 was worth 80 and to save 50 bucks lol
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I have a note 2 also, but want to keep it for back up. I'm thinking the best buy mobile store has different guidelines from the actual best buy store. I may just cancel my pre order from the mobile store.
I traded in a Sanyo Zio that only turns on..... i wasnt giving up my note 3... they got me for my note 2 when i upgraded to my note 3...
I traded in my old Sprint HTC Hero, i think from 5-6 years ago. Worth zero but had no problem trading. Kept my Note 2 for backup or maybe sell it separately. No hassle, never ask to switch plan or anything. Still doing 1500 unlimited family plan with 3 lines.
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My friend had issues due to the CSR being an idiot. Luckily there was a Rep who knew his sh*t and he also got a Note 4 on Launch Day.
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You know I applaud anyone who was able to get 200 for a piece of junk but the real idiots are the ones who accepted the POJ. If you took the time to read the small print BB's policy, (and every other one I have read), clearly state any smart phone that is undamaged, working AND worth at least 10.00 in trade. The true idiots are the ones at BB that don't know that...
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You know I applaud anyone who was able to get 200 for a piece of junk but the real idiots are the ones who accepted the POJ. If you took the time to read the small print BB's policy, (and every other one I have read), clearly state any smart phone that is undamaged, working AND worth at least 10.00 in trade. The true idiots are the ones at BB that don't know that...
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I read through the BB T&C's before I Pre-Ordered my Note 4. I didn't see anything mentioned about $10 Minimum Value. All it said was that it had to be any working smartphone, sans cracked screen, water damage, and must be able to power up.
If my friend traded an OG Palm Pre in and got $200.00 for it, then it truly is "Any Working Smartphone". When is the Palm Pre from? 2010? Surely it has no trade in value at all.
Epic 4G...with tears in my eyes!!!
Not only did I bring in one Evo 4g, but I brought in two, both with bad ESNs. i bought them earlier this years for my boys to play games but they were way underpowered. At first he said $200 for the 1st and $12 for the second. Then he said there was a glitch and I got $200 for both!!! Sadly because I'm doing the ez pay i can't use it for my phone through BB.
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Not only did I bring in one Evo 4g, but I brought in two, both with bad ESNs. i bought them earlier this years for my boys to play games but they were way underpowered. At first he said $200 for the 1st and $12 for the second. Then he said there was a glitch and I got $200 for both!!! Sadly because I'm doing the ez pay i can't use it for my phone through BB.
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giftcards.com you can enter the code on the back of the card and sell them the giftcard, they will paypal you the money in a day or 2. only downside is youll get only about 90% of the value and cant sell more than $300 in a month, but i sold mine to put towards easy pay
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giftcards.com you can enter the code on the back of the card and sell them the giftcard, they will paypal you the money in a day or 2. only downside is youll get only about 90% of the value and cant sell more than $300 in a month, but i sold mine to put towards easy pay
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US CELL S2 - $10 Value, left BB with Note 4 phone for $23 ... Love it! Might just do it again .. lmaooooo
I was already on the one up program so I just gave my phone back and paid the taxes on the note 4.
Traded evo 4g. They didnt even really checked it other than make sure came on and screen wasnt cracked missed the few cracks on the plastic edge lol...
LG Optimus Elite - think it had a negative value.