[Q] My tracks 15-20% battery drain in 20 minutes - Moto 360

Hi Guys,
Got my moto 360 last week and was in here on the forums before it had even arrived! I've read a few threads around battery drain, and for the most part mine seems okay. It usually averages around 6-9% an hour which is on the high side but others have reported better life after a few recharge cycles.
However, I cycle to work and use the command 'start a bike ride' to start recording the journey in mytracks. I've done this several times now and and each time it burns through 15-20% battery within about 20 minutes... Surely this can't be normal!
I only have fit, mytracks, facer and the mini launcher installed.
Any ideas?

yeah that sounds a bit high, but about right.
When I use Runkeeper for 30-45mins, I usually lose 20-30% battery on the watch (doesn't make a dent on the phone though).

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Battery Life

I've had the phone since Sept 6th and this is 4th day I have my phone.
My battery life has been draining like crazy. I don't have a data plan, but I do go on wifi sometimes (not very often, and I don't keep it on for long). Maybe in total an hour to two a day.
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user, I don't play any games or watch any videos nor listen to music at all. I only sms and download apps.
It's been 5h 42m 35s since unplugged and my battery life is down to 57. I hardly use it, my settings are pretty much the lowest.
It says
Android System 40%
Cell standby 21%
Phone idle 13%
Display 12% (weird, since I have animations are turned off and I used lowest brightness)
Camera 6% (I took 3 photos)
Wifi 4%
Maps 2%
Dialer 2%
about 2 hours ago, I rooted my desire since I've read reviews that it makes it faster, prolongs battery life and what not. (plus I could do so much more with it later on). But my battery was still draining at like 1% every minute and half that I touch it. (I also have task killer, but I don't kill task very often)
Then my friend suggested I get SetCPU (which I did) around 2 hours ago after I rooted my phone. Then I went out and hardly touched the phone unless I received sms, or to check the time. And it went from like 69 to 56 (within that 2 hours of doing nothing)
I've searched the forum for extending battery life (and googled as well) and read other users who have the same problem, and I pretty much did what was recommended but it's still draining.
I can hardly make it through the day!!
Is there any other way that I can charge it (when to charge it) or.. do you think it might be my battery's problem? Should I buy a new one?
Thanks for all the help again (I know this kind of thread has already been done, but that was in like April)
Your battery takes time to settle if it's a brand new device. It takes a few charge/discharge cycles for that.
If after say 14 days you are still getting poor life I'd try calibrating it. Instructions are HERE.
thanks! i will try that if my battery life still drains this crazily in a week.

What is the battery life like on the first charge?

I am getting the phone for christmas and was just wondering if I have my parents charge it the night before, will it last me all day? What is battery life like on the first charge?
You'll likely burn through it pretty fast on a first charge. Best I know, it's not optimal until about 3-4 cycles.
Mine was pretty horrendous at first and then again for the following couple of cycles after that. Now on 4.0.2 and a number of cycles in and I think the battery life is stellar when you consider the screen size. Pretty similar to my GSII so cannot complain.
My advice. .. take the charger.
Regards.
I got about an hour of continuous tinkering after a 10 minute charge. Had to plug it in after that.
The first charge will be the longest lasting charge you will ever have on this battery - depending on your usage.
LiIons degrade a wee tiny little bit with every subsequent charge.
Thanks, I can't wait to get it.
Valynor said:
The first charge will be the longest lasting charge you will ever have on this battery - depending on your usage.
LiIons degrade a wee tiny little bit with every subsequent charge.
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While this is true, I dont think its calibrated the first time.
I got my nexus yesterday and charged it up from 50 to full and it was literally at 0% 10 hours later, today is a different story, I've been able to get about 12 hours of use out of it and have about 35% battery left
Antzor said:
While this is true, I dont think its calibrated the first time.
I got my nexus yesterday and charged it up from 50 to full and it was literally at 0% 10 hours later, today is a different story, I've been able to get about 12 hours of use out of it and have about 35% battery left
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Calibration only affects the battery icon, if they use poor logic to calculate the charge. The system can read battery voltage precise to 0.001 volts and it's actually quite easy to gauge a LiIon cell: 4.200 V = full, 3.600 V = empty (without load on the battery)
My first charge only lasted about 5 hours, and that was because I was playing with the thing the whole damn time. ;-)
My first charge
This is what I got on my first full charge. Was on Wifi for most of the time. Bluetooth was on often in the beginning to transfer files.
Used GPS for like. Facebook sync was off. Gmail, Google+ on. No Reader, Google Photos, Docs sync.
I bought the extended battery and it both were about 40% charged. You'll want to burn it down completely till it powers off, then give it a full cycle.
You'll kill it just by setting it up, playing some games, playing with the OS, reading XDA Rooting guides, taking pictures etc.
Just kill it, then put it on the charger while you get a shower and dressed.
...then you'll probably kill it again by the end of the day cause you can't stop plating with it.
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New MOTO 360 - 3 Full Cycle of Charging Battery is Approx 6hrs

I just got my MOTO 360 and the main problem I faced after the slow Update is Battery life.
Its very worst and goes with apps usage it drops 20% battery if used for 5 to 10 min. I was waiting for charge cycles so that the battery life gets stable but today it worked only for 6 Hrs max and the remaining time displayed is absurd like 100% charge 1 hr remaining.
I did reset for like 3 time didn't work.
I have noticed some apps with no name eating battery.
Please let me know if its normal or I need to get is replaced as I have just got it 2 days ago.
Thanks
This is somewhat normal. You have to remember every time you resent your watch everything from your phone will have to sync to your watch again. I find that after a reset battery life is not good for the first day. Also if you have Google Music and are syncing any music to the watch that KILLS the battery down to 50% until all the music is synced. Also if you have Google Fit make sure on your phone you don't have High Accuracy Mode enabled as I have found that will run the GPS more often on the watch and kill the battery much faster.

Battery usage

My battery stats have improved greatly by turning off location completely.
Took it off charge at 6am and with heavy usage
YouTube internet calls etc
still have 65% 16.5 hrs later.:good:
Just starting to play with battery use on my new G5. 100% charged 10 hours ago just before bed.
On a day to day basis i am a pretty light user. Calls and texts mainly.
Left phone unpluggged so it slept and 7 1/2 hours layer its at 93%.
20 mins music and email checking 19 hours in its at 88%.
Have Greenified much in the way of apps which i think improved things. Compared to the Sony i had the G5 seems to have ok battery life.
Its certainly in the useful, full day and better range.
astmacca said:
Just starting to play with battery use on my new G5. 100% charged 10 hours ago just before bed.
On a day to day basis i am a pretty light user. Calls and texts mainly.
Left phone unpluggged so it slept and 7 1/2 hours layer its at 93%.
20 mins music and email checking 19 hours in its at 88%.
Have Greenified much in the way of apps which i think improved things. Compared to the Sony i had the G5 seems to have ok battery life.
Its certainly in the useful, full day and better range.
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Is yours rooted? I tend to get 5+ hours screen on time sometimes 7 which is amazing for a phone this cheap.
Same here, I have about 4-5 hours of screen on time with greenify, non-rooted. I'm a regular user, messenger, emailing, browsing, spotify etc. I'm also using Adguard which has its impact on the battery but a small price compared to having ads all over the place
Swizzy88 said:
Is yours rooted? I tend to get 5+ hours screen on time sometimes 7 which is amazing for a phone this cheap.
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Nope, no root as yet. And actually i may not depending on what ROMS become available in the future. Pretty happy with the way this is setting up and Android 7.0 stock. I think i may well leave it unrooted until after Android O hits and see where i go from there.
i'm rooted and the battery is very good, i got 7,5 hours SOT, usually i have 5-6 H of calls and 3H of SOT, 2 sims active, wifi and 4g always on, and the battery is 20-25% when i put on charging from evening to the morning. Very happy with this battery
woozie.2007 said:
i'm rooted and the battery is very good, i got 7,5 hours SOT, usually i have 5-6 H of calls and 3H of SOT, 2 sims active, wifi and 4g always on, and the battery is 20-25% when i put on charging from evening to the morning. Very happy with this battery
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Very good battery for price of the handset
I don´t know it´s a isolated case, but since i bought the phone, the battery is pretty bad, yesterday i tried to charge with another power adapter and my battery it´s lasting longer, anyone have this same problem?
Sometimes this happens to me.
When i keep my phone overnight(Battery Saver ON) even wid a charge of 60-70%, next day mrng, the battery is completely drained and phone is OFF. This doesnt happen daily, happens only sometimes. Any guesses why dis happens?

Bought new Z play/kind of disappointed with the battery life

Hello all,
I bought a new Z play to replace my ageing phone, and I have mixed feelings about the battery life. The phone has received universal praise for its battery life, and while some of it is true in my case, I can't seem to get those high SoT numbers that everyone brags about.
It's very difficult for me to break the 6h SoT barrier, and I consider myself a light user: whatsapp, browsing, some reddit, and the occasional music (through headphones). I don't play any games, or perform heavy tasks. Also the phone is connected to WiFi 85% of the time, get decent signal, and the screen is set on auto-brightness.
Running latest version of the stock rom, and I performed factory reset + wiped cache + reset network settings countless times as per suggestions.
Attached some stats for 50% that I just took.
Is there something I'm missing?
Take it with a grain of salt, just because people brag about numbers does not mean they are real or obtainable by everyone. Battery life will vary for every user and phone. The time you have is in the acceptable range and I would not worry.
Yes, even I have never achieved the 8-9+ hrs of SOT that's I've seen in some threads. Based on my usage I get a minimum of 6.5hr SOT with the phone lasting a good 25-27 hours before I have to plug it back in.
Since the phone is new it might take a few cycles for the battery to truly show its stamina.
Those answer are definitely right. It all varies on the users. . Also please makes sure you have bluetooth and wifi scanning off. (Location> Scanning > Bluetooth & Wifi Scanning) Another factor is apps. Get rid of facebook and facebook messenger. Apps that use GCM eat battery like a range rover eats gas. I've hit 8--10 hr of SOT before. Let your phone get use to your daily activities. I believe it'll optimize itself over time.
It's normal.
I was also getting earlier 5-6 hrs SOT(When the device was new) but not I'm getting 8-9 hrs SOT.
So as your phone is new it might take few cycles for the battery to show its full stamina!
Cheers!!
Thanks for the replies and for putting my mind at ease.
Bluetooth and wifi scanning are off (forgot to mention that).
Anyway, I understand. Those insane SoT of 10+ are best case scenarios with careful use of the device. Still happy with my current capacity (anything which lasts until the next morning is great).
And yep, the phone manual (who reads those anymore), did mention the battery taking a few cycles before reaching its capacity.
Now, for a different issue. If I'd like to disable turbocharging/quickcharging my phone, would a USB C to A cable coupled with any charger (including the quickcharging ones) do the trick? Based on my understanding, the cable limits the chargining power, so any regular (quality) C to A cable should restore normal charging speeds even when using a fast charging charger. In case you're wondering why I'd like to do that, it's because the phone gets way too hot for my liking when using the Moto turbocharger and I'd like to reserve that for when necessary.
Well, guyz do have a point.
The screenshots are showing you have almost 3hrs SoT after day and a half. This is normal.
Those >10 hrs of SoT aren't achieved with careful usage. Coming from my experience, I got 10.5 hrs SoT with 10% battery left, BUT, in one day. My Moto can last up to 3 day with one charge, but in those 3 days I'll have maybe 4hrs SoT. So, in average, my Moto lasts up to 2 days with 6/7hrs SoT (I mostly use FB, Messenger, WhatsApp, Viber, YT, Instagram, stock 6.0.1). It simply depends how you use it. That big, almost 11hrs SoT, I could only achieve on weekends, coz otherwise I don't have the time to stare in my phone so much.
On that other thing, Moto does get pretty hot while charging. And you're right, the cable does limit the charging power so it will probably work.
I was one of those users getting 10h SoT early on. But I was doing that inside a 24h usage window. Your 50% stats have you stretched out to like almost 3 days off charger. Idle time vs. screen on time is ALWAYS a trade-off.
I look at battery drain in terms of drain rate at idle, and drain rate with screen on. Early on I was seeing 6% drain per hour of screen on, and 1-1.5% per hour screen off. So basically 5 hours of idle time costs you 1 hour screen on. Those were my numbers on the original MM build. My battery life has gotten worse with every software update. I have NOT done a factory reset, mostly because I don't want the hassle and I still get a day off normal use with plenty of battery to spare. But I usually see 18h off charger and 3-4h SoT in a normal day, and that leaves me at 40-50% when I plug in.
Looking at your stats, if screen on costs you 6% per hour, you have 17% worth of screen on drain. That leaves 33% idle drain over 38 hours, or sightly less than 1% per hour idle. Seems pretty darn good to me.
Your cell signal is definitely not helping your battery life. Switch to 2g when on wifi, your signal bar should be full and it'll probably help your battery life.
Enjoy the fact that this phone lets you keep BT/WiFi scanning/Facebook/etc. on without having to worry whether or not you're going to make it a full day. I use all that stuff, have multiple live widgets updating, brightness at least half way, T-Mobile Digits running, and still make it a full day. Additionally, it's great to know that if you do have to make it 2-3 days with minimal usage because you don't have a charger handy, you can. However, I'm willing to bet that 99% of users are able to charge their phone daily. To those users, I say enjoy all the features and don't worry about it.
Really depends on the screen brightness...I can hit those number with my screen brightness turned down a good bit...probably around 30 percent and auto sync off...if i have brightness anywhere above 60 percent then battery life drops a good amount...still well enough to get me through a 12 hour work day but there is a difference
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