New MOTO 360 - 3 Full Cycle of Charging Battery is Approx 6hrs - Moto 360

I just got my MOTO 360 and the main problem I faced after the slow Update is Battery life.
Its very worst and goes with apps usage it drops 20% battery if used for 5 to 10 min. I was waiting for charge cycles so that the battery life gets stable but today it worked only for 6 Hrs max and the remaining time displayed is absurd like 100% charge 1 hr remaining.
I did reset for like 3 time didn't work.
I have noticed some apps with no name eating battery.
Please let me know if its normal or I need to get is replaced as I have just got it 2 days ago.
Thanks

This is somewhat normal. You have to remember every time you resent your watch everything from your phone will have to sync to your watch again. I find that after a reset battery life is not good for the first day. Also if you have Google Music and are syncing any music to the watch that KILLS the battery down to 50% until all the music is synced. Also if you have Google Fit make sure on your phone you don't have High Accuracy Mode enabled as I have found that will run the GPS more often on the watch and kill the battery much faster.

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I've had the phone since Sept 6th and this is 4th day I have my phone.
My battery life has been draining like crazy. I don't have a data plan, but I do go on wifi sometimes (not very often, and I don't keep it on for long). Maybe in total an hour to two a day.
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user, I don't play any games or watch any videos nor listen to music at all. I only sms and download apps.
It's been 5h 42m 35s since unplugged and my battery life is down to 57. I hardly use it, my settings are pretty much the lowest.
It says
Android System 40%
Cell standby 21%
Phone idle 13%
Display 12% (weird, since I have animations are turned off and I used lowest brightness)
Camera 6% (I took 3 photos)
Wifi 4%
Maps 2%
Dialer 2%
about 2 hours ago, I rooted my desire since I've read reviews that it makes it faster, prolongs battery life and what not. (plus I could do so much more with it later on). But my battery was still draining at like 1% every minute and half that I touch it. (I also have task killer, but I don't kill task very often)
Then my friend suggested I get SetCPU (which I did) around 2 hours ago after I rooted my phone. Then I went out and hardly touched the phone unless I received sms, or to check the time. And it went from like 69 to 56 (within that 2 hours of doing nothing)
I've searched the forum for extending battery life (and googled as well) and read other users who have the same problem, and I pretty much did what was recommended but it's still draining.
I can hardly make it through the day!!
Is there any other way that I can charge it (when to charge it) or.. do you think it might be my battery's problem? Should I buy a new one?
Thanks for all the help again (I know this kind of thread has already been done, but that was in like April)
Your battery takes time to settle if it's a brand new device. It takes a few charge/discharge cycles for that.
If after say 14 days you are still getting poor life I'd try calibrating it. Instructions are HERE.
thanks! i will try that if my battery life still drains this crazily in a week.

Battery remaining life decreasing after 100% charge. Theories...

Ok so after a hard reset and at 100% charge my HTC Radar says 1 day and 15 hours remaining. It has been like that for a few days. After about a week, 100% charge results in 20 hours remaining life. Eventually after a few more charges it averages at 15-17 hours remaining battery life. That is a big worrying decrease. These figures are always noted after a 100% charge and leaving it to settle for a bit.
So I started thinking what could be causing this decreasing stand by time?
Two theories:
1. It must be an app as I got excellent stand by time from a hard reset and with no additional apps so maybe a particular app is playing with the battery meter?
2. Could it be leaving the phone over night plugged in is doing something to the battery? Maybe I should unplug it as soon as it gets to 100%?
The strange thing is it can't be the actually battery degrading over time as the phone is new. Also, I have recently flashed a custom ROM to my Radar at a point when stand by time was at 15 hours at 100% and after the flashed ROM the standby time went back up to 1 day and 15 hours. Something is not right. It must be an app.
Any other thoughts/theories or anyone else in a similar situation?
Discuss please so we can all learn something to hopefully solve this problem for other handsets too!
My guess: calibration. The system estimates your runtime based on previous runtimes, that's why it's getting lower. Did your phone actually ever run that long, btw?
yes it did. very very close. i was amazed.
and does it now actually run out faster? I have noticed this on my ipod. It used to tell me 1h battery remaining and it would run for another 3h until i got home and another 2h the next day (when I noticed I forgot to charge). Also, are you using your phone more now? The biggest battery drain is the display.
Remaining battery life is estimated as follows:
Immediately after being removed from the charger is based on previous usage charging.
After this time estimate is based on current consumption.
In the first week after hard reset or install ROM the period are recorded in the system.
After a year of use of personal phone (HD7) and trying different rom and different settings for gps, 3g, edge, and light i found that the consumer eating large battery . After a more detailed study will say that is the main consumer.
Thanks for your comment Ovi but this is not about how the consumer is wasting the battery by usage. The question I raised was about how the standby time varied at 100% after a hard reset and after weeks of usage at 100%. The stand by time decreased without using the phone after a full charge. That is what is puzzling me. In theory it should be the same stand by time no matter how long the phone has been owned and the rate of discharge is due to usage - agreed.

Google Fit Demolishing battery

I installed Google fit the day it was released and my battery seems to be taking a big hit. I was getting 24ish hours with ambient mode on and now I'm not getting 12. Is anyone else seeing this?
I see no difference with or without Google Fit. Are you constantly syncing?
No. In installing it was the only change before the decrease in battery life. Wear battery stats doesn't show any apps using any battery either. Thinking I'll reset the 360 and see if it clears up.
How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
what apps do you have installed? maybe its something else...
thomas333 said:
How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
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Well, i get up at 5 am and take my watch off the charger and when i out it back on at 11 it usually has over 30% which I'm assuming would be plenty enough to get me back to 5 am if i tried.
I only have Keep, play music, fit interval timer and wear battery stats installed...
I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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mine decreased significantly as well.
I was getting between 4% - 5% drain an hour. Installed Google Fit, drain increased to 10% - 12% per hour.
No apps installed except wear battery stats.
May be you should change location setting..use power saving mode instead of gps
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My battery on the watch is more or less the same but my phone battery has taken a hit for sure .. fit is keeping my phone awake a lot!
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Yeah I noticed this as well. I deleted Fit on my N5 and battery life appears to be better gain.
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I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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This is an update: no changes to anything except turning off ambient mode. Ambient mode was on and off throughout the day yesterday because I though that might have been killing the battery. I turned it off during last night's charge cycle to turn the screen off as usual but this time I didn't turn it back on. Normally, leaving on Ambient mode only takes 5-10% in a given day, so I can only assume that either I was moving a lot yesterday or something more sinister was going on.
Still using:
-Nexus 5
-Google FIT, Facer is being used, wear battery, a few other minor apps
-No changes to GPS settings, etc
The watch has been off the charger since 7:30-7:45 (100%) it is now 4:23 (75%) approximately 8 hours @25% , which is closer to my normal battery time. I've been receiving my normal notifications and I haven't even reset my device. Hopefully other people have the same results cause it really sucked last night to have a watch on my arm that didn't even work... lol
i've notice just a small decrease in battery, but not a huge one, i still took off the charger at 6am this morning and still have 51% right now, where as normally i'd have about 65%.
I was at about 55% when I installed the latest Wear update this evening. Three hours later I'm at 16%. Ambient mode off. Gonna keep an eye on it but that Wear update seems to be the culprit for me.
I suspect that the Google Fit is only using phone sensor at the moment and the Fit app is only syncing from the phone and not the otherway round. Checking Heart Rate history on the www.google.com/fit is also not showing anything.
When you check in Google Fit settings in the app, it doesn't show the Moto 360 as an connected device. Not sure if this by design.
How can the heart rate monitor and/or heart activity be turned off completely? I still get these "You've reached your daily goal" messages every single day, sometimes only minutes apart - it gets annoying, quickly. I've switched off all three sections in the settings menu, but it doesn't seem to do the trick.

Battery drain on my Moto 360 (15%/h)

Dear users
I have extreme Problems with my Moto 360 battery. I bought it 4 days ago and already charged it from 0-100% twice (and 2 times from about 20-100). The battery stats in the app are the following with 25% of Charge:
Android Wear 12%
Display 8%
Android-System 6%
my Watch Face 6%
Clock inactive 5%
wearfacematrix 5%
...
I already did a factory reset and tried to use an older Version of Android wear with no success. Ambient mode is off (even if I would love to use it), brightness on 1, turn on on tilt is on, WLAN on automatic.
In other Posts I saw People can use the wear for over 16h (I only use the watch to read the time once every 20 minutes and talk to Google about 5 times a day). Ah and I'm using 5.1.1 and 5.1.1 was installed from factory.
Please help me...
That's unusual. My regular battery usage is about 3-4%/hr. I'd recommend downloading a task manager app to monitor which processes are active on your watch. Also, use one of the default watch faces to see if that makes any difference.
I took mine off charger at 9 pm it is now 2:20pm (next day) and I have 71%.... I would suggest to try running one of the simple faces (stock) you have a couple of apps that look like they are watch face specific running... odd that you have 2 running at the same time if that is what they are. I run watchmaker for my watch faces... I have tried a few others but they seem to have a higher consumption rate.... I don't run wifi on mine though either... the other kind of surprising thing is you don't show any watch idle time, mine is currently 17%
I think this has to do with how the watch comes, I just got mine as well, completely dead, after being on the charger for 2 seconds it said it was at 25% and after draining it and charging it a few times its getting better. I'm going to assume some battery.bin in the filesystem just comes calibrated to whatever engineering device they must test these builds out on and after about a week it should learn your watch an get A LOT better.

Bought new Z play/kind of disappointed with the battery life

Hello all,
I bought a new Z play to replace my ageing phone, and I have mixed feelings about the battery life. The phone has received universal praise for its battery life, and while some of it is true in my case, I can't seem to get those high SoT numbers that everyone brags about.
It's very difficult for me to break the 6h SoT barrier, and I consider myself a light user: whatsapp, browsing, some reddit, and the occasional music (through headphones). I don't play any games, or perform heavy tasks. Also the phone is connected to WiFi 85% of the time, get decent signal, and the screen is set on auto-brightness.
Running latest version of the stock rom, and I performed factory reset + wiped cache + reset network settings countless times as per suggestions.
Attached some stats for 50% that I just took.
Is there something I'm missing?
Take it with a grain of salt, just because people brag about numbers does not mean they are real or obtainable by everyone. Battery life will vary for every user and phone. The time you have is in the acceptable range and I would not worry.
Yes, even I have never achieved the 8-9+ hrs of SOT that's I've seen in some threads. Based on my usage I get a minimum of 6.5hr SOT with the phone lasting a good 25-27 hours before I have to plug it back in.
Since the phone is new it might take a few cycles for the battery to truly show its stamina.
Those answer are definitely right. It all varies on the users. . Also please makes sure you have bluetooth and wifi scanning off. (Location> Scanning > Bluetooth & Wifi Scanning) Another factor is apps. Get rid of facebook and facebook messenger. Apps that use GCM eat battery like a range rover eats gas. I've hit 8--10 hr of SOT before. Let your phone get use to your daily activities. I believe it'll optimize itself over time.
It's normal.
I was also getting earlier 5-6 hrs SOT(When the device was new) but not I'm getting 8-9 hrs SOT.
So as your phone is new it might take few cycles for the battery to show its full stamina!
Cheers!!
Thanks for the replies and for putting my mind at ease.
Bluetooth and wifi scanning are off (forgot to mention that).
Anyway, I understand. Those insane SoT of 10+ are best case scenarios with careful use of the device. Still happy with my current capacity (anything which lasts until the next morning is great).
And yep, the phone manual (who reads those anymore), did mention the battery taking a few cycles before reaching its capacity.
Now, for a different issue. If I'd like to disable turbocharging/quickcharging my phone, would a USB C to A cable coupled with any charger (including the quickcharging ones) do the trick? Based on my understanding, the cable limits the chargining power, so any regular (quality) C to A cable should restore normal charging speeds even when using a fast charging charger. In case you're wondering why I'd like to do that, it's because the phone gets way too hot for my liking when using the Moto turbocharger and I'd like to reserve that for when necessary.
Well, guyz do have a point.
The screenshots are showing you have almost 3hrs SoT after day and a half. This is normal.
Those >10 hrs of SoT aren't achieved with careful usage. Coming from my experience, I got 10.5 hrs SoT with 10% battery left, BUT, in one day. My Moto can last up to 3 day with one charge, but in those 3 days I'll have maybe 4hrs SoT. So, in average, my Moto lasts up to 2 days with 6/7hrs SoT (I mostly use FB, Messenger, WhatsApp, Viber, YT, Instagram, stock 6.0.1). It simply depends how you use it. That big, almost 11hrs SoT, I could only achieve on weekends, coz otherwise I don't have the time to stare in my phone so much.
On that other thing, Moto does get pretty hot while charging. And you're right, the cable does limit the charging power so it will probably work.
I was one of those users getting 10h SoT early on. But I was doing that inside a 24h usage window. Your 50% stats have you stretched out to like almost 3 days off charger. Idle time vs. screen on time is ALWAYS a trade-off.
I look at battery drain in terms of drain rate at idle, and drain rate with screen on. Early on I was seeing 6% drain per hour of screen on, and 1-1.5% per hour screen off. So basically 5 hours of idle time costs you 1 hour screen on. Those were my numbers on the original MM build. My battery life has gotten worse with every software update. I have NOT done a factory reset, mostly because I don't want the hassle and I still get a day off normal use with plenty of battery to spare. But I usually see 18h off charger and 3-4h SoT in a normal day, and that leaves me at 40-50% when I plug in.
Looking at your stats, if screen on costs you 6% per hour, you have 17% worth of screen on drain. That leaves 33% idle drain over 38 hours, or sightly less than 1% per hour idle. Seems pretty darn good to me.
Your cell signal is definitely not helping your battery life. Switch to 2g when on wifi, your signal bar should be full and it'll probably help your battery life.
Enjoy the fact that this phone lets you keep BT/WiFi scanning/Facebook/etc. on without having to worry whether or not you're going to make it a full day. I use all that stuff, have multiple live widgets updating, brightness at least half way, T-Mobile Digits running, and still make it a full day. Additionally, it's great to know that if you do have to make it 2-3 days with minimal usage because you don't have a charger handy, you can. However, I'm willing to bet that 99% of users are able to charge their phone daily. To those users, I say enjoy all the features and don't worry about it.
Really depends on the screen brightness...I can hit those number with my screen brightness turned down a good bit...probably around 30 percent and auto sync off...if i have brightness anywhere above 60 percent then battery life drops a good amount...still well enough to get me through a 12 hour work day but there is a difference
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