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On Nov 6th I met up with someone at Starbucks from Craigslist to purchase the Galaxy Note 2 for $450 with box charger and instructions. I checked the esn number and it was clean. I inserted my sim card and was able to use the phone. On Friday Dec 28th, my phone all of sudden couldn't go on the web using 4g and I couldn't make and receive incoming calls. I called T-Mobile using a landline and they said my imei has been blocked. I went to the T-Mobile store and paid $50+ tax to use a loaner phone because I can't be without a phone. Today T-Mobile told me that this phone can't be activated due to equipment installment program. What should I do? Should I sell this phone on eBay and specify that this imei is blacklisted? Maybe someone from around the world could use this phone unlocked. Right now the phone is LOCKED. Should unlocking be my expense or should it be the buyers expense to unlock this phone? Should I use the money I get from selling this device to buy a brand new galaxy note 2?
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Track down the creep who sold it to you and get your money back. Call him and let him know you have contacted the police and they are reviewing the tape from Starbucks and you fully expect to get your money back. Have him meet you at the police station for the refund.
Hey, may not work but worth a try. I'd rattle the hell out of him and would not leave him alone. He knew what he was up to and essentially stole your money. That's not ok.
Outside of saber rattling, it's now your problem. If you like the device enough, just pay whatever T-Mo needs to get it turned back on. You got a good price so whatever they need should still be cheaper than buying a new one.
Edit: well, who knows what T-Mobile needs paid. It may be worth it to just sell as blacklisted and call it a day.
The person who sold me the phone is the only one could make payments toward the phone. Its a lady that sold me the phone.
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awesomedeals88 said:
The person who sold me the phone is the only one could make payments toward the phone. Its a lady that sold me the phone.
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Have you contacted the lady to talk it over and understand why she did what she did?
This type of transaction is becoming a problem with tmobile phones.
Making sure esn number is clean is one thing. Make sure its not on a value plan.
I hope op gets this sorted out.
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Yea you got scammed bad. That sucks major big time
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Call me an extremist but if I were in this situation, the police would be involved & I'd be pressing fraud charges against that douchebag. Or, I'd be taking that seller to small claims court.
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U got a note 2 for 450? You should have seen this coming.
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When I sell the phone on eBay, should I pay to have the sim unlocked or should I let the buyer pay to have the sim unlocked?
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When I sell the phone on eBay, should I pay to have the sim unlocked or should I let the buyer pay to have the sim unlocked?
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Just do it yourself... follow instructions from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
This is the second time I am hearing of this. I blame tmobile. If you call them to ask if the phone is clean to purchase and they tell you yes then it's their fault for not making sure it doesn't have any outstanding balance. To the Op you have yet to explain why you haven't contacted the seller. The other poster didn't try to contact the seller either. So either you are both idiots or maybe you are trying to figure out how to unlock a stolen phone. And please don't say you can't find the owner because tmobile had there information and with a push from the police they have to give it up.
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Just do it yourself... follow instructions from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
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Once I follow this procedure, how can I tell if the sim is unlocked if I don't have another sim to test it out?
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Once I follow this procedure, how can I tell if the sim is unlocked if I don't have another sim to test it out?
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So instead of dealing with the person that sold you the phone you are going to unlock it? Once again I am calling BS on this and now you have people helping you unlock a phone that is not legally yours.
....... But unlocking won't unblock the IMEI o.0 Unless you're planning to use it on another carrier than Tmo, unlocking won't allow you to use the phone.
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This is the second time I am hearing of this. I blame tmobile. If you call them to ask if the phone is clean to purchase and they tell you yes then it's their fault for not making sure it doesn't have any outstanding balance. To the Op you have yet to explain why you haven't contacted the seller. The other poster didn't try to contact the seller either. So either you are both idiots or maybe you are trying to figure out how to unlock a stolen phone. And please don't say you can't find the owner because tmobile had there information and with a push from the police they have to give it up.
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I have to agree with this. Tmo wouldn't just tell you the phone was clear & then turn around & say "Oops, we meant to say it's blocked!" If they actually made a mistake when the OP first called in, he needs to escalate until they either unblock him or credit him for a comparable new phone. This whole story just smells funny. I know that if I had just dropped hundreds of dollars on a phone that I couldn't even use thanks to the seller's negligence/fraudulence, I'd be sitting in the police station filing a report within minutes of finding out it was blocked. I can't even imagine just saying "oh well, guess I got scammed!" about something like this. The OP is either incredibly rich & $450 is just pocket change, or else something is fishy here.
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My plan is to get the sim unlocked so I could sell internationally on eBay.
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awesomedeals88 said:
My plan is to get the sim unlocked so I could sell internationally on eBay.
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You boight a phone as is. Cops dont care that u got scammed. Lesson learned.as far as t mobile goes contact the better business Bureau and t mobile will step up and go after the lady who owned it. Plus unless u have phone conversation recoreded that is all on u. If it to good to be true......... well u know the rest.
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Just do it yourself... follow instructions from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
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I agree with those who say you should hold the lady responsible. Contact her and see if she will make it good. If not, small claims courts is the way to go. I've done two small claims cases. Its easy and not expensive. Sounds like you have a solid case. Of course once you get a judgement you may have a problem collecting if she's a deadbeat. But if she's got an income you can force her to pay up. My 2 cents. Good luck.
Could this phone be activated on Straight Talk? Might be able to get most of your money back via CL if someone wants to use it on prepaid.
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Damn criminals.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18319518
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Thats crazy!
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Damn criminals.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18319518
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Thats crazy!
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please go read what the actual law states. this only applies to phones that are still under contract/subsidy. if your 2 year contract has expired you can unlock any phone.
that's not gonna stop anyone
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that's not gonna stop anyone
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Actually, yes it will.
Carriers are not gonna go after the users (such as myself) but will definitely go after commercial unlockers, like the store I have bought 5 phones from and flashed 6 phones with. I buy the phones unsubsidized, so im ok, but with a possible $500,000 fine and prison time...I dont think my store will continue doing this.
Going to call them tomorrow and see what they say...
Edit: read the docket...im glad I got my note 2 flashed before it went into effect.
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yea well obviously the people who do it for commercial reasons it'll stop them ..but like me or you or whoever knows how to unlock a phone is probably gonna do it (for personal use)
Problem is for metropcs...you need retailer access to their database. I can
Change everything on the phone but not add the esn to metro's database. So I have to rely on those commercial people...so my note 3 might have to be on sprint...
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Problem is for metropcs...you need retailer access to their database. I can
Change everything on the phone but not add the esn to metro's database. So I have to rely on those commercial people...so my note 3 might have to be on sprint...
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But isn't that where people just end up using a donor ESN?
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I get the ruling, but don't fully agree with the logic used. It centered around the cellphone service providers recouping the subsidy costs the give consumers. I just don't get why they needed it overall, especially for the general consumer, since the contracts state if you leave the carrier, you pay a fee; assuming you don't find a loophole to exploit. If that that fee isn't enough, raise it. As far as I know, there is nothing to say it can't be higher based on the phone purchase. Just has to go down over time. My thinking, make it cost the same as buying the phone unlocked.
At the same time, I wouldn't say Sprint makes phone friendly to switch carriers, compared to others who do not have build in SIM cards.
Personally, it's not going to stop me or that many people. I don't believe most people who unlock do it to change carriers. They're more interested in rooting for the ability to use custom firmware on the same carrier or use other applications.
That said, I can understand where people might be one these phones and try to go with something like Metro. I never looked into the long term costs, so I'm not sure how much money is really saved. The wore part is the ability to see the phone to offset the cost of upgrading to newer model because it limits the buyers to only those who want that same carrier. This may drive the prices even lower.
Without more numbers, I just think this more carriers being scared rather than working with each other so consumers are happy and they can make more money by increase the number of users.
I just accidentally bought a note 2 for t-mobile on CL, is there any way that I can unlock it or flash to make it work again on t-mobile?
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I just accidentally bought a note 2 for t-mobile on CL, is there any way that I can unlock it or flash to make it work again on t-mobile?
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Nope sorry. Try to get your money back
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Nope . People still falling for the Craigslist scam. It's been months this has been going on. It's all over the forum. Should have searched. Rant really should have
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I kind of found a way around if its brand new with the box and all but I will say is this if they called and reported it lost or stolen with Asurion they don't take fraud to likely I was lucky and the dummy used his real number to do business and also contacted from his girlfriends phone so I had a lot of info that helped me with tmobile and Asurion to look at my case buy it would include turning the phone over to my local police department for 30 days and getting ownership of the phone and then going back to T-Mobile corporate and see if they will do but I ended up coming up with a back up plan that I will pm you about when I get off work I don't want to burn myself before the method work
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But I did shut down the v p on a phone conversation when I said there system is set up for people to only buy from T-Mobile but there is nothing in play of a T-Mobile customer does the scamming unlike Verizon where they have to release a phone to be sold ..... and last T-Mobile didn't care that I wanted to return the phone they told me I might as well just keep it
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I kind of found a way around if its brand new with the box and all but I will say is this if they called and reported it lost or stolen with Asurion they don't take fraud to likely I was lucky and the dummy used his real number to do business and also contacted from his girlfriends phone so I had a lot of info that helped me with tmobile and Asurion to look at my case buy it would include turning the phone over to my local police department for 30 days and getting ownership of the phone and then going back to T-Mobile corporate and see if they will do but I ended up coming up with a back up plan that I will pm you about when I get off work I don't want to burn myself before the method work
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But I did shut down the v p on a phone conversation when I said there system is set up for people to only buy from T-Mobile but there is nothing in play of a T-Mobile customer does the scamming unlike Verizon where they have to release a phone to be sold ..... and last T-Mobile didn't care that I wanted to return the phone they told me I might as well just keep it
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Sell it on ebay... List is as a bad imei note 2 and discount it. Mine was like new and I sold it for 475...people will buy it for use outside this country.
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Im stuck on the "accidentally" part of the transaction. How do you accidentally buy a note 2, good or bad?
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Im stuck on the "accidentally" part of the transaction. How do you accidentally buy a note 2, good or bad?
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I think op meant that he did not see the disclaimer that the imei is bad.
Some sellers try to hide this fact with in small print. And list AS IS. So buyer can not return or claim it as bad product.
I can guess the OP didnt mean accidentally.
The company i work for sells smart phones on Amazon and i have had 2 people in the past 4 months write to me to tel me they accidentally purchased the product and didnt mean to. Either the term accidentally means something else or a very strange set of circumstances happened.
Last week i dealt with a guy who wanted an immediate refund because the purchase was fraudulent. I told him as soon as we get the item back we will refund it. 3 days later he picks it up at the post office and he now is asking me questions about different GSM carriers. LOL yeah fraudulent my ass. Im getting off track. sorry guys and gals..
Im actually not typing this either. It accidentally typed its self. LOL
On the bright side, the device can still be used as a PDA utilizing WiFi, and if all else fails, it can be sold for parts. Note 2 screens are very expensive.
Before you can buy the phone called up tmobile ask tmobile agent to have the orginal owner give up full responsibilty to the new owner and that why he or she cannot filed a claim.
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culua said:
Before you can buy the phone called up tmobile ask tmobile agent to have the orginal owner give up full responsibilty to the new owner and that why he or she cannot filed a claim.
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The best thing is to not Buy a phone from Craig s list. Unless its local and you can go to the T Mobile corp store . Have the seller while you are there to get them to look up his account and be sure he has full filled his contract on the phone. And then as you say above get him to have them to Note his account that he sold Said phone to you...
This i think is the only way to protect you in the future. I bought mine off ebay and I got account information from the seller about there account.. Called T-mobile and i was told the phone was purchased outright and was not under and has not ever been under a contract..
These things are expensive Take a few extra steps and protect your investment before you buy
When I sell/buy phones on craigslist I always do it at the carrier. People trying to burn you wont go cause they know you want to chsnge ownership right then. Ive never had a problem doing it this way and most tmobile reps at least around here dont care at all
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culua said:
Before you can buy the phone called up tmobile ask tmobile agent to have the orginal owner give up full responsibilty to the new owner and that why he or she cannot filed a claim.
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that doesn't work. last time i talked to a T-mo rep i asked her if i could report my old G2 stolen that has been paid off and on another person's account for over a year and she said yes.
Until T-mo has an official way to transfer complete ownership of the phone, not just notes on my account I won't be buying any additional used phones. too much risk.
Someone on craigslist offered me a blacklisted note 2 and 70 dollars for my sgs3 what do you guys think ?
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Someone on craigslist offered me a blacklisted note 2 and 70 dollars for my sgs3 what do you guys think ?
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Absolutely not!!! If its blacklisted it is almost certainly considered stolen property. Plus youd be taking a device that will not work.
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Absolutely not!!! If its blacklisted it is almost certainly considered stolen property. Plus youd be taking a device that will not work.
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I could save up the 70 to buy a nexus 4 their about 150 & the note 2 is just a great device
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Ok, but two things I dont think your fully appreciating....its blacklisted so it will soon not work on any network in the US. And its most likely stolen!
But its up to you. There's not much of anything the note2 has over an s3 anyway. Kinda sounds like you already have your mind made up, and just want reassurance maybe? Personally, I just think its an all around bad idea!
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Yeah I get that it won't work on any service. I could easily get a nexus 4 8 gb for 150 . the note 2 would be like a big iPod I carry around
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I'd still be against it due to the likelihood it's stolen. Have you thought about saving a little more, selling the S3, and use that as a down payment on a note3? Why carry two devices around when you could get everything in one?
Or if you wait you could prob find a similar deal where the note2 is not blacklisted. I've heard about some people doing an even swap since they're so close in performance and features. Like I said though it's your call in the end. You may get differing opinions from others, but I think most here would probably agree with me.
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Okay, let's see if I have this right. You want to trade a perfectly fine phone (galaxy s3) for a phone that basically doesn't work (note 2) and use it as an iPod, then you want to buy an 8gb nexus 4 for $150?
Why don't you sell your s3 for $260 buy a 16gb nexus 4 for $200-$250, then buy an actual ipod with the $150 you were going to spend on an 8gb nexus 4. All of your devices will work and you'll have an actual iPod.
Its ultimately up to you, but a note 2 really isn't all that. Its an oversized s3 with a s-pen and better specs. I definitely wouldn't trade a working phone for well, a mini tablet. Oh...and its blacklisted, so there is the chance that is stolen, but like I said, its ultimately your decision.
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I'd still be against it due to the likelihood it's stolen. Have you thought about saving a little more, selling the S3, and use that as a down payment on a note3? Why carry two devices around when you could get everything in one?
Or if you wait you could prob find a similar deal where the note2 is not blacklisted. I've heard about some people doing an even swap since they're so close in performance and features. Like I said though it's your call in the end. You may get differing opinions from others, but I think most here would probably agree with me.
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Doc his imei says "unknown" could this be fixed or is it blacklisted ?
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I don't know. He told you it's blacklisted right? Then he probably tried to clone it to get around the blacklist, which is highly illegal.
I think swappa has a way you can enter the IMEI to see it's status...
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I don't know. He told you it's blacklisted right? Then he probably tried to clone it to get around the blacklist, which is highly illegal.
I think swappa has a way you can enter the IMEI to see it's status...
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No he didn't say it was blacklisted he just said it said unknown . maybe I can fix it myself super easy . he bought if from someone off craigslist he doesn't know about phones
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He told me the imei from the back. I checked online on checkesnfree & its said it wasn't blacklisted . I tried to check on swappa but it said ESN was not in the right format?
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No he didn't say it was blacklisted he just said it said unknown . maybe I can fix it myself super easy . he bought if from someone off craigslist he doesn't know about phones
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He told me the imei from the back. I checked online on checkesnfree & its said it wasn't blacklisted . I tried to check on swappa but it said ESN was not in the right format?
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In the very original Ad-post What did the Seller say ? Did he ever mention the word blacklist at all ? Or did he all along said IMEI Unknowm ? Or was it you that concluded based on Unknown IMEI that its blacklisted ?
Eitherway, he can still promptly report the NOTE's IMEI and report it stolen and then you would be at a loss. You have been already given sound Advice by Doc and Da Kine. If you are sorely tempted then Sell your Galaxy on Swappa and go get the Nexus. The S3 is a nice device. I wouldn't trade it for the Note 2. The Specs are not THAT better.
Having said all that, in all fairness, it might be possible the IMEI is lost from bad Flash and a NV Backup may just May Restore it. Would you want to take that chance ? If its not going to be restored, it will be truly an ipod. You could however sell or donate the Note 2 in that case to some Developer here on XDA that will immensely benefit from it. The community will get better more stable code in return.
Think about it. Don't rush to a conclusion due to a chance to get rid of your S3. I bet even Bestbuy will give $70 for a working S3.
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In the very original Ad-post What did the Seller say ? Did he ever mention the word blacklist at all ? Or did he all along said IMEI Unknowm ? Or was it you that concluded based on Unknown IMEI that its blacklisted ?
Eitherway, he can still promptly report the NOTE's IMEI and report it stolen and then you would be at a loss. You have been already given sound Advice by Doc and Da Kine. If you are sorely tempted then Sell your Galaxy on Swappa and go get the Nexus. The S3 is a nice device. I wouldn't trade it for the Note 2. The Specs are not THAT better.
Having said all that, in all fairness, it might be possible the IMEI is lost from bad Flash and a NV Backup may just May Restore it. Would you want to take that chance ? If its not going to be restored, it will be truly an ipod. You could however sell or donate the Note 2 in that case to some Developer here on XDA that will immensely benefit from it. The community will get better more stable code in return.
Think about it. Don't rush to a conclusion due to a chance to get rid of your S3. I bet even Bestbuy will give $70 for a working S3.
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He didn't mention blacklist at all I just came to the conclusion that it was but it's obviously not. Anyways how could I restore the imei ? Can someone guide me in that direction? It's running cm10.2
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He didn't mention blacklist at all I just came to the conclusion that it was but it's obviously not. Anyways how could I restore the imei ? Can someone guide me in that direction? It's running cm10.2
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Oh so you have already made the trade ? Oh well.
In order to restore the IMEI, first step is to use Root66 Rom and flash it via PC based ODIN and then return the phone to complete stock. Quick search here on XDA under Note 2's forum will help.
If you own this Note 2 now and need help, I suggest posting that device's thread since it is no longer a S3 related question.
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Oh so you have already made the trade ? Oh well.
In order to restore the IMEI, first step is to use Root66 Rom and flash it via PC based ODIN and then return the phone to complete stock. Quick search here on XDA under Note 2's forum will help.
If you own this Note 2 now and need help, I suggest posting that device's thread since it is no longer a S3 related question.
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Haven't traded it yet but I would like to know what to do once I get it, thanks.
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Haven't traded it yet but I would like to know what to do once I get it, thanks.
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The tools we use for the S3 don't work for the Note2. So you'll have to check in their forum for any fixes. Don't expect to get very far very quick though. We are not allowed to post or discuss this information publicly here as it's against forum rules. Too many people seek it out to use with criminal or malicious intent. (I wouldn't expect anyone to be very forthcoming with this info since you don't actually need it yet).
That said, I'm sure there is a fix, I just don't know where or how for anything but the US GS3's. And if you can't find how to do so yourself, you'll end up paying more money to send it to a shop that can fix it.
Imo, this is going to be more trouble and more of a risk than it's worth. As mentioned above, if it isn't blacklisted now, it doesn't mean they won't report it stolen a month from now. This sort of thing happens all too often unfortunately.... it's why most of us never recommend buying used unless it's from a trusted source.
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Someone on craigslist offered me a blacklisted note 2 and 70 dollars for my sgs3 what do you guys think ?
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I would that screen is so nice trade up is good I just traded mine for a nexus 4
What's up guys! I'm really thinking of jumping ship if I get my hands on an invite, how about you?
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Same here! If it is possible to get an invite....
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Definitely will be looking in to it,...but have to wonder, how much of a PITA will it be to get a replacement for warranty purposes.
For $300 bucks, I will get one to compliment my note 3. Hope to get invite and work on ATT LTE network.
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You get to invite a friend to buy another for just a buck also if you get the invite. I will gladly smash my note 3 and get two of these for a buck each.
And if they let you choose the 64Gb version for $50, I would still take that deal.
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I'll be going for that deal
I was gonna get a nexus 5 but think I wanna gave this a try O.O looks nice.
waiting for good feedbacks here
These phone seems to be incredible for specs and price.The only thing is the big size but maybe you'll get used to.
Waiting for a Nexus 6 for a comparison
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....The only thing is the big size but maybe you'll get used to.....
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You.....do know this is the Note 3 forum right?
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You.....do know this is the Note 3 forum right?
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I.........know!My thought remain the same,was discussion on OPO,i think it will be an opponent of next google device instead of Note 3
Specs aside, you have me on the fact this is made to flash custom ROMs without the manufacturer or carrier bloat.
It's about time a company says, "here is a high end device. We are going to give you some awesome features, but if you want, do with as you will... And BTW, here is how you do it."
If the phone had the same specs as the gs4 and had this idea I would buy it. Just the idea behind it is what sold it for me. I will be getting one whether or not I get it for a $1
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I just hope that having a T-Mobile.com email will help me be one of the first 100 to get.
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I just hope that having a T-Mobile.com email will help me be one of the first 100 to get.
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Good luck. Invite me if you get it... Lol.
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Non replaceable battery killed it for me.
I'd prefer a SD card slot, as I carry a lot of music, and don't like cloud.
Id buy one, just to try something new, not so sure about this invite option. I'd figure any company would want to have full availability as soon as possible.
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Non replaceable battery killed it for me.
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agree!
joaquinla1 said:
What's up guys! I'm really thinking of jumping ship if I get my hands on an invite, how about you?
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Good luck. Invite me if you get it... Lol.
jacqueline robert said:
Good luck. Invite me if you get it... Lol.
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Yet again, copying someone else's post and pasting it as your own. Please go away.
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I will be picking up one of the 64GB ones when I get an invite.
I did enter the Smash your phone and win one for $1.00 thing but I did that with an old S3 (I'm not smashing a $700.00 Note III for a $300.00 phone)