[Q] Lollipop update inquiry. - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm planning to update to v157 and I'm concerned about the upcoming lollipop update.
So here is the scenario..
Lets say for example, I have a stock sony rom and had it rooted, deodexed , flashed with ported apps /mods. Then lollipop kicks in.
So my questions are:
1. Will the root be gone?
2. Will I loose my deoxed?
3. Will it be wise to update right away? (This is a concern if the update would cause me bootloop or what not due to the customization to my phone)
Thanks in advance for your reply!:fingers-crossed:

sleepymarky said:
I'm planning to update to v157 and I'm concerned about the upcoming lollipop update.
So here is the scenario..
Lets say for example, I have a stock sony rom and had it rooted, deodexed , flashed with ported apps /mods. Then lollipop kicks in.
So my questions are:
1. Will the root be gone?
2. Will I loose my deoxed?
3. Will it be wise to update right away? (This is a concern if the update would cause me bootloop or what not due to the customization to my phone)
Thanks in advance for your reply!:fingers-crossed:
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1. Yes, root will with 99% certainty be gone.
2. Yes, of course you will lose deodex, you lose that in even the smallest update, but you don't really gain anything from that anyway so I don't see what the issue is.
3. Depends, of course there will be some issues as there always are, but I personally like to live on the edge a little... at least when it comes to IT

1. Of course it will
2. Yup, after update you will have odexed ROM
3. Any changes applied to ROM have nothing to do with updating to new version as you will remember to make clear installation.
BTW don't worry, customize your system because official lollipop update for Z1C will be kicked in not earlier than in February, I guess.

Thanks for your feedbacks!!
I see, thanks for the infos.
I'll keep those in mind.

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official froyo

With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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Wow that's some big new. I'm sure all the devs would love to get a copy of it. I will for sure get it for my wife's evo.
I'm using Fresh 0.5.3 and want to know if I can just update to Froyo. I don't care about losing root since I know it will eventually be rooted again. Will I be able to update over my existing ROM. I don't care about having to reinstall my apps.
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Relevant to me as well. Running rooted stock rom for the Evo. Still haven't done any of the OTA updates. So if I do all of the OTA updates I missed to get to the 2.2 update, what will happen? Just remove root?
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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If you want to maintin root just wait for the developers to incorporate the update into their ROM's same as with the last OTA Update. Also, no one said it will definitely "break" root. Just a good possibility. So be on the safe side if you don't want to loose root... "be patient".
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
?
thanks.
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Okay, well how about answering my questions first
I'll update as soon as it hits, Use it until I get home, clear the storage, do a nandroid backup then runs that through a kitchen and flash it back to the phone.
Not terribly clean but effective. If it works. Probably won't since I'm sure the update will wipe the recovery.
So, I guess I'll wait for fresh evo to be updated.
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
?
thanks.
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A dev will release a version of 2.2 that has the *$#& that messes up root access pulled out and superuser patched in. Likely this will be down within hours of release, at the very least a couple of days.
All you'll need to do when the rooted version of Froyo is out is to wipe and flash. Just make sure you don't flash the un-rooted stock version that is likely to be floating around.
I frankly don't see anything near good enough (from the leaks) for me to lose everything I get from CM6. I'm sure after a few days, CM6 and the other great roms out there will be updated with the good parts of the update. Until then, no updates for me!
oddlou said:
I frankly don't see anything near good enough (from the leaks) for me to lose everything I get from CM6. I'm sure after a few days, CM6 and the other great roms out there will be updated with the good parts of the update. Until then, no updates for me!
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Well I'm running cm6 latest nightly. I'll probably do the fresh then when cm6 is updated I'll go there
A cleaned out Froyo much like DC 3.2.3 will be better than CM6.
jerryparid said:
A cleaned out Froyo much like DC 3.2.3 will be better than CM6.
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maybe it will, maybe it won't. Either way, I can wait until a rooted version is ready to try it.

[Q] Rooting Simplified

New to rooting, but get the gist. Here are some easy questions I am seeking answers to. I just want to be double and triple sure of my assumptions:
1) I downloaded the newest OTA update, which of course is causing motochopper to fail. Can I simply reset to factory settings via hard reset and then refuse the OTA update and then run motochopper?
2) With OTA updates: Is there anything significant about this particular update that I would be missing out on?
3) Would I ever be ever to install latest updates pushed by my carrier in the future?
Thank you advance for helping me to clearly understand these things!
tfuse said:
New to rooting, but get the gist. Here are some easy questions I am seeking answers to. I just want to be double and triple sure of my assumptions:
1) I downloaded the newest OTA update, which of course is causing motochopper to fail. Can I simply reset to factory settings via hard reset and then refuse the OTA update and then run motochopper?
2) With OTA updates: Is there anything significant about this particular update that I would be missing out on?
3) Would I ever be ever to install latest updates pushed by my carrier in the future?
Thank you advance for helping me to clearly understand these things!
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1. No hard reset wont undo ur update.
2. Less lag. Supposedly.
3. Yes if you stay on a stock rom.You probably wont want to since custom roms will most likely be more updated than ota official. Ex: we'll get custom android 5.0 before tmo sends it ota....maybe.
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[Q] Arc S android update suggestions (for backup and space issues?) - noob :$

Hi,
I'm having problems with space and the general speed of my Xperia Arc S so the time has come to finally upgrade from Sony's version of Android 2.3 in hope that it will improve things.
I've kind of avoided this so far as I don't really know the best way to back-up things.
I want to back up to my computer - not to the internet.
I am guessing that for the applications that I would like to back up I would need to back up both their APK files and whatever their setting files are. I guess there are also some system settings to back up (but then these are less important).
A problem I have always had is space on the phone - it has very little storage space and although I try and move everything to the SD card, a lot of it doesn't seem to be able to be moved.
Things like simply the Google Play services take up loads of space! I don't even really have that much on there - mainly just whatsapp.
The phone is stock although I have checked in the service menu and it says that I can unlock the bootloader. Part of the reason I didn't upgrade to Sony's version of Android 4 was because I heard that it locks the bootloader and I didn't know if this was bad.
What is the bootloader unlock for? Is it for loading custom roms? As i thought you could do this even if it was locked? Or is it for rooting?
So yer, I guess I am looking for recommendations for a CFW to suit my needs. Priorities are that it works and i'm guessing the latest android version possible would be best as this will help with performance etc. Or is that a misnomer as newer android releases are generally geared for phones with higher specs? I've heard that some CFWs have problems with wifi etc so i'd like to avoid those as I certainly need that.
Overall there seem to be so many even on this forum that I don't really know which would be a best fit for my needs or this phone.
I also have an original San Francisco (zte blade) to update but will save that 'till I've done this one.
Hopefully I can get an understanding as to how all this CFW / Rooting / whatever business works and the best / latest way to do things, as as with everything, it all rapidly changes and you can find yourself looking out lots of outdated and now incorrect or superseeded information.
All a bit overwhelming really, which is why i've put it off so long!
Thanks for your time and help!
1. Q : For backup on ICS 4.0.4, right?
A : Unlock bootloader first -> root -> flash cwm - now u can backup everything from ur phone.
2. Q : Little storage, right?
A : After backup, reboot system.
Partition ur sdcard -> install link2sd. (google it for how to)
Link what do u want to link (google it for how to)
3. Q : Unlockbootloader, right?
A : It's for using custom kernel (google it for how to)
There's too many tutorial from all your question.
Read it again and again :good:
Abigail said:
1. Q : For backup on ICS 4.0.4, right?
A : Unlock bootloader first -> root -> flash cwm - now u can backup everything from ur phone.
2. Q : Little storage, right?
A : After backup, reboot system.
Partition ur sdcard -> install link2sd. (google it for how to)
Link what do u want to link (google it for how to)
3. Q : Unlockbootloader, right?
A : It's for using custom kernel (google it for how to)
There's too many tutorial from all your question.
Read it again and again :good:
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I have android 2.3 - is this a problem?
I thought that the Sony ICS 4.0 update made it so you could not unlock your bootloader?
Hmm if you unlock your bootloader, it will also root the phone, correct?
But it seems that using the Sony tool will wipe my phone developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
So i saw there is the S1tool but then people said that it does not work with the Arc S.
Is this still the case? What is the reason? is it impossible?
So, you say that in order to back up my applications and things, i need to unlock my bootloader. The official way seems to wipe my phone though - so then i can't back up :S
Hmm, see, i am confused about the order i should do things. Also i've heard that if you use the Sony tool then you cannot use OTA updates which seems like it could be problematic? Mind you i guess CFW cannot use OTA either - so how do you update? You must check for updates on your PC and reflash your phone regularly? Or are there ways for Stock android CFW to support OTA updates?
So, does the Sony ICS update stop you unlocking the bootloader?
I guess there are 2 options. Update using that and then install helium OR root and then use titanium backup.
Not sure which to try.
Thanks!
1. Unlock bootloader is only affected by the phone manufacture date, check the battery compartment and see if the date is before 12W11. Any date after this means the phone can't be unlocked.
2. Software does not affect the unlocking of bootloader, like I mentioned earlier check the battery compartment.
3. Unlocking your bootloader does not mean you have rooted your phone. It just means you can flash custom kernels onto your phone.
4. It's not that S1tool doesn't work, if I told you the entire process of doing it you wouldn't want to do it either.
5. Sony last stopped the update at 4.0.4, no need to concern yourself with future updates.
6. If you use CFW, refer to the thread for instructions on how to install updates.
7. Like I mentioned, ICS update does not affect bootloader unlock, only the manufacture date does. Furthermore, if you update from stock to a CFW, you will not be able to restore your data from the old software. You will have no choice but to start with a clean slate.
I am on Sonys 2.3, build 4.0.2.A.0.62 and i read that i cannot root this version.
I can't use backup software as i can't root to use titanium and helium doesn't support 2.3.
Sony back also apparently doesn't support my phone.
Basically, my apps are outdated due to me not having enough space to update them.
I think that updating to Sony's ICS update might enable me to use these programs and root so that i can backup, then unlock the bootloader and use cfw. (i checked and my s# is older than 12W11 so that's fine).
However, i am worried that if i try to update to Sony's ICS update that i will either lose my applications or the data that is stored with them (whatsapp history, game saves, app config etc etc) - particularly as they are not up to date.
Is this the case? Is there anything i can do?
Thanks
oneNight1 said:
I am on Sonys 2.3, build 4.0.2.A.0.62 and i read that i cannot root this version.
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Take a look at the tool namend one click root (this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219781), your build should be root-able, just read carefully and decide if you wanna try...
I used this tool on stock sony ics 4.0.4 build and it worked nicely, haven't tried it on stock sony gb 2.3 build though.
Good luck! :good:
BadGround said:
Take a look at the tool namend one click root (this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219781), your build should be root-able, just read carefully and decide if you wanna try...
I used this tool on stock sony ics 4.0.4 build and it worked nicely, haven't tried it on stock sony gb 2.3 build though.
Good luck! :good:
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Thanks for the tip! It worked!
If you do it twice it relocks your phone. Took some google translate to find out what the chinese was saying hehe.
I'm now on stock 4.0.3 (4.1.A.0.562).
Doesn't seem a great deal better than 2.3, i guess i need to find out what a good lightweight CFW is really. Firefox for android constantly crashes so i tried naked browser and that does too. Wish there was a good selective script blocker for mobile browsers - that would help a lot. Noscript for firefox would be a possibility but the problem is it crashes a lot even with javascript disabled.
So yer not sure where the problems are coming from, maybe due to the low RAM in this phone. That's why i was thinking a lightweight CFW might help matters but not sure if it's best to go with a 5.1 one that breaks 720p recording and has issues with things like turning off GPS.
Or it might be better to go with the latest type that doesn't break anything. I'm guessing that is a 4.0.4 CFW? Or maybe 4.4? I know stock only goes up to 4.0.4 but i think i read something about being able to get CFW based on stock so HDMI, FM radio, 720p recording etc etc won't be broken?
Thanks anyway!
oneNight1 said:
Or it might be better to go with the latest type that doesn't break anything. I'm guessing that is a 4.0.4 CFW? Or maybe 4.4? I know stock only goes up to 4.0.4 but i think i read something about being able to get CFW based on stock so HDMI, FM radio, 720p recording etc etc won't be broken?
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Well, I haven't tried 5.1 so far, only following the 5.1-threads to see how it's going on.
HDMI is only working up to 4.0.4 roms, FM radio is working in 4.1 roms too, and you'll get 720p recording also in 4.4.4 roms. If you want all things working your phone is able to you will have to use roms based on stock GB or ICS. Therefore I'm using a stock based ICS rom most of the time (T-Rom).
By T-Rom for Arc S, i assume that you mean this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746508
Or if not then this port of it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239187
Sounds like something worth trying to see if it helps!
Thanks!
oneNight1 said:
By T-Rom for Arc S, i assume that you mean this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746508
Or if not then this port of it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239187
Sounds like something worth trying to see if it helps!
Thanks!
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For Arc S the first link is the matching one. I think it's the most recently updated ICS rom for our device :good:

Prob dumb question

Okay. I have been modding Android phones for a long time and this is probably a dumb question. I'm just not sure because I know some things change with marshmallow and maybe there's something I don't know about.
But I am running stock on build number MDB08i on my carbon 5x and I am rooted with supersu and busybox. I even have a layer activated. I'm really happy with my current setup.
Anyway all of a sudden I get a system update notification from Google about some security patch. Should I install it or will I have problems upon doing so? Since I am rooted and have layers etc.
Please let me know what you think I should do.
Thank you!!!
ryanbmw51 said:
Okay. I have been modding Android phones for a long time and this is probably a dumb question. I'm just not sure because I know some things change with marshmallow and maybe there's something I don't know about.
But I am running stock on build number MDB08i on my carbon 5x and I am rooted with supersu and busybox. I even have a layer activated. I'm really happy with my current setup.
Anyway all of a sudden I get a system update notification from Google about some security patch. Should I install it or will I have problems upon doing so? Since I am rooted and have layers etc.
Please let me know what you think I should do.
Thank you!!!
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Pretty sure stock recovery and no root is required to take the OTA. Best bet is to just flash the newest factory image and start over with root etc.
ryanbmw51 said:
Okay. I have been modding Android phones for a long time and this is probably a dumb question. I'm just not sure because I know some things change with marshmallow and maybe there's something I don't know about.
But I am running stock on build number MDB08i on my carbon 5x and I am rooted with supersu and busybox. I even have a layer activated. I'm really happy with my current setup.
Anyway all of a sudden I get a system update notification from Google about some security patch. Should I install it or will I have problems upon doing so? Since I am rooted and have layers etc.
Please let me know what you think I should do.
Thank you!!!
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You have unlocked bootloader, flashed custom software and now you are worried about some security patch.
Not worried. At all. As I said I'm happy with my setup. Problem is how can I make the notification go away? It keeps coming back.

Can I get Oreo Ota with my moto rooted?

Hi. I own a moto g5 xt1670, stock nougat with some security patch I believe. I'd like to stay on nougat for a while, so I guess I must root, then freeze the updater app because it's turning pretty annoying. The question is...can I install Oreo Ota with the device rooted in case I want in the future?
I'm not planning to install roms, so I prefer to stay on locked BL.
Many thanks.
no
mortadelax said:
Hi. I own a moto g5 xt1670, stock nougat with some security patch I believe. I'd like to stay on nougat for a while, so I guess I must root, then freeze the updater app because it's turning pretty annoying. The question is...can I install Oreo Ota with the device rooted in case I want in the future?
I'm not planning to install roms, so I prefer to stay on locked BL.
Many thanks.
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Well to start with you need to unlock your bootloader if you want to root your device
And otas can only be installed on a totally unmodified device so you would need to flash stock firmware via fastboot (and lock the bootloader to make sure the images are totally unmodified) before any ota is attempted to installed
Thanks both of you for the reply!
So, let's say I'm not interested in Oreo Ota, how can I stop the upgrade spam notification? I guess I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the updater app. Is that correct? In case I want Oreo in the future I guess I can install some rom...
Does this make sense? I've read bad reviews about oreo and battery drain. This is my mother's phone. I don't want any possible problem. Nougat is just fine, and works well.
Thanks a lot. I'll be waiting for your reply.
mortadelax said:
Thanks both of you for the reply!
So, let's say I'm not interested in Oreo Ota, how can I stop the upgrade spam notification? I guess I must unlock BL, then root, then freeze the updater app. Is that correct? In case I want Oreo in the future I guess I can install some rom...
Does this make sense? I've read bad reviews about oreo and battery drain. This is my mother's phone. I don't want any possible problem. Nougat is just fine, and works well.
Thanks a lot. I'll be waiting for your reply.
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Force stopping system update app (you need to show system apps in app list) will temporarily remove the notification until restart or the app starts again
And as far as I'm aware there's nothing wrong with oreo - Always makes me laugh when people say they have read something but provide no source or context

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