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G pad.
http://thediplomat.com/tech-biz/201...us-7-2013-small-but-powerful-android-tablets/
Plus, it HAS to have better support and fewer bugs than the N7 2013.
Worth the $70 more for the larger screen, external storage, and better QC.
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G pad.
http://thediplomat.com/tech-biz/201...us-7-2013-small-but-powerful-android-tablets/
Plus, it HAS to have better support and fewer bugs than the N7 2013.
Worth the $70 more for the larger screen, external storage, and better QC.
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Nexus 7 will have more up to date android, is smaller & cheaper and costs $120/$80 less (16/32GB), will be easier to root/unlock/restore to stock. If there will be a Google Play edition for Gpad 8.3 then I might consider it, but I am not leaving AOSP for LG skin 4.2.2.
I would also hold it on the "better support and fewer bugs", the Nexus 7 multitouch & GPS bugs didn't show up until consumers started buying it in large numbers, and Google have fixes for both out already.
If you prefer bigger screen & is ok with LG's android skin/or counting on a small dev community then Gpad would be good for you, but nothing imo matches a Nexus device's timely updates/ease of root & unlock/large developer community.
It's all about choices....
ATP, I'd take reliability and customer service (and screen size and SD card storage) over user customization.
We don't know if the LG can or will be rooted, so that part is speculation at best.
LG is heavier. Lower pixel density. Back is aluminum (I prefer plastic feeling). Lg has no wireless charging.
From my standpoint:
Weight is no issue.
Screen is an inch larger with same resolution (and far better than iPad mini)- no issue.
Aluminum back is a plus- less flex
Wireless charging- no issue, as you have to buy the wireless charger separately for the N7 2013 if you don't already have one.
N7 2013 relies on cloud storage only unless you want an OTG cable and thumb drive hanging out of it. Gpad accepts up to 64G micro SD.
http://thediplomat.com/tech-biz/201...us-7-2013-small-but-powerful-android-tablets/
As I said, it's all a matter of choice, and I'm happy that we have it.
Wish the Gpad had been sold when I bought my N7 2013. After returning my 3rd I'd have just added the $70 and been done with it rather than spending the last 90+ days as an extended (unpaid) beta tester for Google/ASUS and their stream of updates that only break the device further with each release. I'm not alone in that, either.
Luckily, the majority of N7 2013s are working well, and are a stunning value for the money.
So i'm not the only one that noticed the Nexus 7's body has some flex to it even without applying any real strength ?
I would really like to see the G Pad in person , but i still prefer the Nexus , for android lovers the nexus brand says it all, its like you know you don't just have any device.. you have a Nexus .
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So i'm not the only one that noticed the Nexus 7's body has some flex to it even without applying any real strength ?
I would really like to see the G Pad in person , but i still prefer the Nexus , for android lovers the nexus brand says it all, its like you know you don't just have any device.. you have a Nexus .
Why do these threads keep popping up? What do people not get about "preference". There is no best. At least try to start the thread in a sensible manner, like:
My usage case is ....
I have this much money to spend....
It is important for me to have feature xyz...
Then we can start to have a discussion about the features, the pros and cons and what might suit you best. As these usually are, I find them to be absolutely useless and they more often than not deteriorate quickly.
Amen!
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Why do these threads keep popping up? What do people not get about "preference". There is no best. At least try to start the thread in a sensible manner, like:
My usage case is ....
I have this much money to spend....
It is important for me to have feature xyz...
Then we can start to have a discussion about the features, the pros and cons and what might suit you best. As these usually are, I find them to be absolutely useless and they more often than not deteriorate quickly.
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±1. This guy @swisstourist is starting all these threads in Q&A when one already exists in general. -_- Though, Q&A is the better section, even one of these kind of threads is unnecessary.
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Hi guys, I am looking to purchase a new tablet (7" to below 10") and I am torn between getting the Nexus 7 (2013), an iPad Mini (probably my first Apple device) and the LG G Pad 8.3... this was brought about when I accompanied my wife and bought her a new cellphone the LG G2 hehe.
I am a little bit leaning towards the G Pad... if not for issues that I'm not sure are real... such as no App2SD option? And the lack of casing and accessories.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Yes. I recommend G Pad:good:
App2SD will be available with OS upgrade (4.3 has it)
I have now rooted my G Pad and moved entire 7GB app data to external SD. It work flawless.
There are good cases also available. I got it along with G-Pad.
You can also see G Pad review videos on youtube, have see some good cases (I don't remember the name of the video exactly)
Trust this helps!
That's great to hear! Thanks for the post. I'm a bit hesitant to jump in due to the SD concern... Hmm, does the OS upgrade available off the box? or depends on area / location? Hmm, I used to root my devices... but since I'm busier now-a-days... don't have time doing roots. Yup, seen several videos but no "real" hands-on experience from people who actually used the device and not simply doing a review and had the device for a day.
Hmm, anyone who had both the Nexus 7 (2013) and the G Pad 8.3? To do a comparison?
I was my self just a couple of days ago trying to decide which tablet to go with. Can´t help you with Apple products because i will kill or destroy any objects in my house that is made by thiefs like Apple. Countless of hours went in to researching which one that would give me the most bang for the buck. I had my eyes on the Nexus 7 (2nd gen) since i do not want a 10.1 inch tablet. A 7" would do fine but i was naggin me that i was "only" 7". But when i got to the store to pick the nexus up i saw the LG G PAD 8.3. It had everything i was looking for! a screen that was a bigger than 7" and smaller than the 10".
The problem in the store was that i knew nothing about the LG G pad so i went home again to researh it! (CRAP!!). I found lots of tests both international and 2-3 here in sweden. They all stated the same thing which was that the LG G Pad 8.3 i very impressive.
I went back the same night and picked one up and i have now used it for 14 days. I am loving it. The Pad feels really comfortable and it feels "exclusive" with the aluminium backside. The cameras perform well both front and back.
Pros:
Fantastic screen
Fast and no lag (and i have not rooted it yet but i will to make it go even smoother)
Awesome size but i can still use one hand
Expandable memory
LG apps with for ex. Qpair
Cons:
Speakers on the backside sounds bad (although i can use headphones instead)
Cant find any accessories here in sweden for it and i had to import from ebay - 4 weeks shipping
I don´t know if its my battery that is optimized yet but the batterytime could use another hour or so.
On its own the nexus 7 is a great device, great screen, great software, great price. Place the G Pad next to it and the greatness starts to dissipate quite fast.
Ignoring the specs for one moment the G Pad looks and feels so much better, there is an air of quality not too dissimilar to the IPad. Of course the look is subjective but i love the white version and silver back.
The extra screen really makes a difference, everbody talks about 8" being the sweet spot, and for me they are right. The nexus 7 feels tiny now and i always feel short changed using it.
The nexus 7 screen does look a little sharper and brighter when web browsing but it is very close.
Generally the chips are not too disimilar, the Nexus 7 performs slighty better likely due to running a pure OS compared to LG, and battery life is much better on the Nexus 7, very likely due to the OS again. The LG will get better battery performance over time, either through dev support or software updates.
Add in expandable memory which should be a must on all devices and you have a winner. There is a very good guide on these pages for root. Its a 5 minute job and then you can move apps to sd in a flash.
The LG Pad population is growing quickly, it was slow to start, very little advertising and it was not pushed hard but word has certainly got round now.
Go for it, you know you want to.
-What is your budget?
-do you have a preference for either android or IOS?
I love my G Pad. The 8.3" is just the right size. Both for Notes taking and watching movies. Sadly I had to exchange it 2 times because of damaged display (not my fault), but the 3rd one is perfekt so far. My 4,7" LG 4X HD is so small when I worked with the G Pad for a while. It's really comfortable reading emails, browsing the web, reading articles, chatting. Playing games. And still mobile everywhere I go. I caried a A5 Notebook all the time with me, so I just swapped it for this nice device The big benefit is the Full HD Diplay, everything is so crystal clear.
Apple is just too expensive and I don't want an apple device anymore. There is only one button (I missed my "return" and "settings" button) and really a limit to what you can do with it.
Nexus 7 is too small and has these large brezzels.
G Pad is better than I pad because G comes before I in alphabets lol?
You mentioned that you didn't have time to root the phone. A developer who frequents this forum has developed a root method that will take about 5 minutes or less.
If you have enough time to load up the phone with so many apps that you're worried about app2sd, then you certainly have time to root the phone.
It does take some time to find a good case, but there are some out there. A few people have reported problems with their device and some have had to replace it, but it sounds like more people have had problems with the Nexus 7.
If you can find it at a good price, give it a try.
I just bought both last week and got my G Pad in yesterday. I will write up a longer comparison review when I can, but suffice it to say I'm writing this on my G Pad and the Nexus 7 is getting returned...
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I picked one up yesterday and REALLY like it. I've had 7" tablets (Nook Color), 10" tablets (iPad 3), and 9" tablets (Nook HD+), so this pretty much completes the collection with an ~8" tablet that effectively splits the difference between those. The thin bezel makes it feel much smaller than, say, the Nook HD+, but the screen is really only 0.6" smaller diagonally, so it's a similar experience with less heft. The hardware is outstanding with a beautiful display, silk-smooth performance, and even though many reviews say that LG has really modified Android, I'm finding it's closer to AOSP than, say, Samsung by a long shot. It's mostly reskinned rather than completely reorganized.
To me this is the closest thing to an Android equivalent to the iPad Mini Retina. Yes, it's slightly larger vertically and the pixel density is slightly lower, but when you get close to 300 DPI (this one is 273 DPI, I think), it's imperceptible to the human eye anyway.
I've rooted it, primarily to use Titanium Backup to restore from a backup I made on the Nook HD+, but also to use some apps like fullscreen+ to make certain apps like games and book/magazine readers run 100% full screen without the status or nav bars. I do hope LG releases and official upgrade to 4.3 or even 4.4, but this device is so smooth I'm not sure that's really necessary.
I have a 32GB microSD card that I'd been using in the HD+ that I'll put into this device to hold media and such, but even with every app I had on the HD+ installed, the internal storage is only 1/3 full or so. The stock ROM is way less bloated than, say, my Samsung Galaxy S4 where it's half gone before you ever put your own first app on it!
The main thing that's missing in my opinion is peripherals such as cases and covers. I'm accustomed to having dozens from which to choose on the other devices I've owned (except for the Touchpad), and I'm only seeing a very small number of cases/covers, none of which really do much for me. I'd love to see Poetic release a Slimline smart cover for this device! I love the one I have for the HD+.
Anyway, I give this device exceptionally high marks as hitting an almost perfect sweet spot in the Android tablet market in terms of size, performance, features, and price!
I have the Nexus 7 gen2, and my LG G pad V 500 is on its way Tuesday. But I've already played with one and I can tell you the 8.3 is the way to go. The form factor is infinitely easier to use in every regard. There's nothing negative I can say about the Nexus 7 2013. I absolutely love it but I simply don't need it now as it would be redundant. So I'm selling it to a friend for exactly what I paid for it and keeping the LG 8 inch. I also have a Nexus 10 for watching movies Nexus 4 for daily use. ... and Neptune pine on order through Kickstarter for what it's worth
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Lcwells,
Thanks for that advice! To those who don't want to root the device but still want to get maximum screen real-estate you can simply do what I do and download Go Launcher from the App Store for free. I use it on all my devices and I love it because you can take away all notification bars. Plus it's freaking awesome to use and does not slow down the device. Add pie control and you're all set.
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Scwells... sorry
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What kind of results are you guys getting on benchmarks? I'm really interested on getting this device. I have a Nexus 10 that I've enjoyed for about a year now. Wondering how much more of an improvement the LG G pad is compared tonit. In performance. I'll be using this tablet if I get it for gaming mostly. Thanks.
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I've owned all the major tablets out there.. and I love this one. I've had every gen iPad 9.7", first gen ipad mini, both Nexus 7's, and the g Pad. So far, I'm extremely pleased with this one. Build quality feels better than the Nexus 7's, and portability is excellent. The case availability stinks right now (I do want the slim one, but they are not readily available, unless you want to spend a ton on ebay).
GL!
Thanks
Thanks for the reply guys. I'm sure I am not the only one who will benefit from the postings. I'll be getting the tablet next week - during my bday as a gift from my wife. Since she asked me what I wanted for my bday. Looking forward to do the 5min rooting... to be able to fulling maximize SD storage. Will also post my experience with the tablet once I get it. Feel free to continue posting advice or recommendations since I am sure there are a lot of people wondering what Android tablet to get this Holiday Season.
abdulm said:
Yes. I recommend G Pad:good:
App2SD will be available with OS upgrade (4.3 has it)
I have now rooted my G Pad and moved entire 7GB app data to external SD. It work flawless.
There are good cases also available. I got it along with G-Pad.
You can also see G Pad review videos on youtube, have see some good cases (I don't remember the name of the video exactly)
Trust this helps!
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I rooted my Lenovo A2109 tablet but still could not move my biggest apps to my sdcard. Then I found out about the mount bind trick, where you redirect the system to a new directory. I moved my Google Newsstand, with 8gb of data, to my sdcard this way. Each time my tablet boots, it runs this command:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -o bind /sdcard2/Linked/com.google.android.apps.magazines /data/data/com.google.android.apps.magazines
Basically, you run the mount command, with the bind option, followed by the destination directory and source directory. You will need root, but this will move even those pesky apps that the app2sd applications can't. Me so happy
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jjdevega said:
What kind of results are you guys getting on benchmarks? I'm really interested on getting this device. I have a Nexus 10 that I've enjoyed for about a year now. Wondering how much more of an improvement the LG G pad is compared tonit. In performance. I'll be using this tablet if I get it for gaming mostly. Thanks.
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According to these numbers, the G Pad slays the Nexus 7:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_pad_83-review-1004p5.php
I highly recommend the G Pad. Honestly, I have had a few Android devices (and the iPad mini and iPhones before that) and although I love the functionality of Android, I always felt that the iOS is superior in terms of user experience. Well after getting the G Pad, I no longer feel this way. Seriously, if all Android devices are at least as good as this in the future, I can think of absolutely no reason to go with an iPad or iPhone anymore.
PROS:
-Great screen: I've shown it to a few people and they have all commented on how nice it looks. The PPI may not be as high as the Nexus 7 2013 or iPad mini 2013 but unless you have a magnifying glass (i tried ), you won't notice the difference. As far as I can tell, the screen is very accurate and doesn't look yellowish or greyish as reported by some people. It's definitely better than a lot of the AMOLED screens on some Samsung devices which can look blueish or greenish.
-Tiny bezel: People complain that it makes it hard to hold but I've found several positions that make it quite comfortable. It also makes everything on the display pop out. It makes devices like the Nexus 7 look primitive by comparison (like an old television set compared to a flat screen).
-Performance: The main reason why I think it's on par with any iOS device. The interface feels buttery smooth and games and apps run without any stutters. People might say that most of the latest devices that run Jelly Bean are like this but I am really picky when it comes to this and unfortunately, most devices just don't feel up to the standard of iOS. With the G Pad however, I'd say it's 99% there. I've noticed one or two stutters sometimes when going back to the Homescreen but it's so minuscule that it doesn't bother me.
-Well placed speakers: IMO, the speakers are in a great place. Sure, when it's in portrait mode, they're both bunched up to the left but chances are, it doesn't really matter where the sound is coming from when you're in portrait mode. It's in landscape where it matters for stuff like gaming and movies. In terms of placement, you can't satisfy every position unless you stick 4 speakers in there like the Sony Xperia Tablet Z so I think LG's solution is quite good, especially since they're in a place that can't be blocked easily by your hands.
-Optimus UI: This depends on your taste. I really like the look and functionality of what's being offered by LG. I believe they have struck a perfect balance between style and functionality as opposed to just functionality (Stock) or just style (Samsung).
-Build Quality: This thing feels like a luxury device. It's tiny (without sacrificing screen real estate), has an aluminium back panel and the plastic they use on the other parts of the device feels as nice and solid as the metal parts.
-MicroSD support: Pretty much explains itself.
CONS:
-Battery life: It's not terrible, but definitely below average. I'm a pretty heavy user and most of the time, I have around 10% left after spending 12 hours out of the house. Your mileage may be different but I can say that this is the first tablet I've owned where I ran out of battery before I was able to plug it in after coming home. This only happened once but i'll definitely be bringing my charger from now on. Also, I noticed that even when plugged into my computer, the battery still goes down if I'm using it (although rather slowly). This also has not happened with any of my other devices which suggests that it uses quite a lot of power as opposed to having a weak battery (but I guess then they should've put in a bigger battery which would of course made the device bigger and heavier).
-Auto-Brightness: Unlike many people, I don't think the screen is potentially too dim. At maximum, it's as good as I could ever need on a sunny day. The only problem is that the auto-brightness is not very reliable because it tends to adjust to the dimmer side. It's not unusable but I would certainly prefer it if it was a touch brighter a lot of the time.
-Snapdragon 600: As I mentioned earlier, this thing is fast. But knowing that it doesn't come with the latest and greatest is a little annoying as far as pride is concerned and also for future proofing. But the competition isn't that great either (with the real exception being the iPad mini). The Kindle HDX has a Snapdragon 800 but unless you want to be locked out of the Play Store, I don't see that as a viable option at all. The Nexus 7 has an even older processor (although it seems to be able to punch above it's weight). At this price and size range, the only other option are some of the Tegra 4 devices like the Tegra Note but then you have yourself a tiny screen with a much lower resolution as well as a huge bezel.
Anyways, that's my take. Wrote a bit more than I was planning to but what can I say, I just can't stop talking about this device
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I have the Nexus 7 gen2, and my LG G pad V 500 is on its way Tuesday. But I've already played with one and I can tell you the 8.3 is the way to go. The form factor is infinitely easier to use in every regard. There's nothing negative I can say about the Nexus 7 2013. I absolutely love it but I simply don't need it now as it would be redundant. So I'm selling it to a friend for exactly what I paid for it and keeping the LG 8 inch. I also have a Nexus 10 for watching movies Nexus 4 for daily use. ... and Neptune pine on order through Kickstarter for what it's worth
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Lcwells,
Thanks for that advice! To those who don't want to root the device but still want to get maximum screen real-estate you can simply do what I do and download Go Launcher from the App Store for free. I use it on all my devices and I love it because you can take away all notification bars. Plus it's freaking awesome to use and does not slow down the device. Add pie control and you're all set.
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Scwells... sorry
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Mostly I see people using Nova Launcher but if you recommend Go Launcher instead of stock UI, I'll give it a try but how does one eliminate all the notification bars? And what is pie control?
I'm not a rooter, maybe I can get a friend to do it if it is easy and a 5 minute process but I feel many don't do it and we would all be interested in getting as much as we can from a device as possible without doing so. Whatever other recommendations you can make would be great! Thanks!
I hope more people try the G Pad. I cannot put it down and wouldn't have to except I rather have it charge while idle but then again that only adds to the anticipation of using this great device again ASAP.
As far as the Kindle Fire HDX? I'll take the G Pad anyday and I also cannot stop talking about this device either. So glad I tried one on for size!
100% recommend the G Pad. Smooth, fast, very little bloat, and very sleek.
Pie control: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol&hl=en
Takes the very best feature of the stock google browser (and the only reason I'm using it and not Chrome) and makes it functional for the main interface.
Mark
Hello,
I have a very limited history with tablets. Only Tegra 2 ones and those were bad days. I do know that Android tablets don't share the attention Android phones have. Still I am looking for a fully and easily customisable and community-friendly tablet as a Nexus 4 user.
First of all Nexus 7 and 10 are not an option in my country. Adding that I hate Samsung this leaves me thinking (actually considering, because I did not even know that G Pad existed) G Pad 8.3 which has a very elegant look and affordable price.
But I have questions; So please help me out with them..
1) Is there OTG support for 2.5" hard drives?
2) Like I said, I am a Nexus 4 user. I have withnessed Note 2's aging before it and it killed me because hardware was there to save the day but Samsung let it die slowly. I also have withnessed Galaxy Nexus's survival throught developers due to its open coded nature. How is the openness in LG world? And how is the software support and community? I don't expect a Nexus 7 easiness but still, some G2, Z1 level customisable-ness and openness would be awesome..
3) Since we mentioned G2, how long do you thing the chipset will survive? Even G2 has S800 (don't mind the CPU but the Adreno 330) but this tablet S600 with Adreno 320. I guess this is a faster and 32 pipeline version of a regular Adreno 320 which comes with S4 Pro right? What do you think for its gaming future? (having Galaxy S4 and 2013 Nexus 7 on board with same or slower GPUs out there makes me think that G Pad 8.3 will survive another 1.5-2 years with ease but I am not sure)
4) How is AOSP? I think there is GPE version but could we easily switch to an AOSP based ROM? How about ROMs like Omni or PA or any other famous and multi-device-supporting ones?
5) Are there any chronical problems? Where should I pay attention before buying?
6) How is the battery time and screen quality?
7) I know I said I hate Samsung but I am going to buy 2 of them (One for my company) and I can find Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro for an additional 100 Dollars (Lg is 400, Samsung with no Wi-Fi is 500). Considering these questions above would you tell which one is better? Samsung has a better GPU but also has twice many pixels to push out. Especially the GPU is scaring me, GPUs are the only reason I had to change a device-including laptops- in my mobile world experience so far..
8) What are your opinions? Is there any regrets? Or anyone saying "I should have gone for other tablet"?
Thank you for reading this long writing And for the answers of course..
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Hello,
I have a very limited history with tablets. Only Tegra 2 ones and those were bad days. I do know that Android tablets don't share the attention Android phones have. Still I am looking for a fully and easily customisable and community-friendly tablet as a Nexus 4 user.
First of all Nexus 7 and 10 are not an option in my country. Adding that I hate Samsung this leaves me thinking (actually considering, because I did not even know that G Pad existed) G Pad 8.3 which has a very elegant look and affordable price.
But I have questions; So please help me out with them..
1) Is there OTG support for 2.5" hard drives?
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Don't know. That reminds me, I need to buy an OTG cable.
2) Like I said, I am a Nexus 4 user. I have withnessed Note 2's aging before it and it killed me because hardware was there to save the day but Samsung let it die slowly. I also have withnessed Galaxy Nexus's survival throught developers due to its open coded nature. How is the openness in LG world? And how is the software support and community? I don't expect a Nexus 7 easiness but still, some G2, Z1 level customisable-ness and openness would be awesome..
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Check out the Dev forum. Recovery and ROMs (CM11, SlimKat, others) are available.
3) Since we mentioned G2, how long do you thing the chipset will survive? Even G2 has S800 (don't mind the CPU but the Adreno 330) but this tablet S600 with Adreno 320. I guess this is a faster and 32 pipeline version of a regular Adreno 320 which comes with S4 Pro right? What do you think for its gaming future? (having Galaxy S4 and 2013 Nexus 7 on board with same or slower GPUs out there makes me think that G Pad 8.3 will survive another 1.5-2 years with ease but I am not sure)
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I have found the S600 with 2GB RAM sufficient to run games like Asphalt 8, Bladeslinger, and Soulcalibur without issues. Games would have to get crazy-intense to cause problems with this tablet.
4) How is AOSP? I think there is GPE version but could we easily switch to an AOSP based ROM? How about ROMs like Omni or PA or any other famous and multi-device-supporting ones?
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There is the GPE, but as of yet you can't switch the LG version and the GPE. Can't say anything about ASOP, although there is a ASOK DEV thread. I haven't done any research about this, so I can't say.
5) Are there any chronical problems? Where should I pay attention before buying?
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None that I'm aware of.
6) How is the battery time and screen quality?
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Battery life seems fine to me. I think the screen looks great. It's not the brightest when it comes to nits, but in my dim apartment it's plenty bright at 75%, although I keep it at 84%. At work, which is brightly lit by fluorescents, 84% is fine too, but I might crank it up to 100% if I'm watching a video. Outdoor visibility might be an issue, but I don't use mine outdoors, so I can't comment on that.
7) I know I said I hate Samsung but I am going to buy 2 of them (One for my company) and I can find Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro for an additional 100 Dollars (Lg is 400, Samsung with no Wi-Fi is 500). Considering these questions above would you tell which one is better? Samsung has a better GPU but also has twice many pixels to push out. Especially the GPU is scaring me, GPUs are the only reason I had to change a device-including laptops- in my mobile world experience so far..
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Can't say anything about the 8.4 Pro. It's pretty highly regarded in reviews, but from a dev'mod standpoint, I don't know.
8) What are your opinions? Is there any regrets? Or anyone saying "I should have gone for other tablet"?
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I love mine. I use it mainly as a media/entertainment device. Some light, casual games, a few intense ones. Web browsing, Youtube, Netflix. And eBooks. What I love most is the size. It's the only tablet I've owned, but I've played around with 7" and 10.1" Androids and iPads, and none of them "fit". The 7" ones had just a wee bit too small of a screen, and the larger ones were too big and heavy, especially one-handed. But the LG 8.3 is the perfect medium. Thanks to the narrow side bezels I can hold it comfortably in hand in portrait, and the wider top/bottom bezels make it great to hold in landscape. Plus it's light and balanced enough to even hold one-handed in landscape.
I got mine for $250USD. The Tab Pro 8.4 is $350-400USD. If the LG 8.3 was only available for $330-350 from major retailers or eBay, the Tab Pro 8.4 would have been a major consideration. But for $250, the LG 8.3 was the clear choice for me. Occasionally it has been even cheaper (but I missed out on those deals). I can't speak for cost/availability in Turkey, but if it's the same in the US, I'd say both tablets are worth the money. The LG was the better choice for me. But if you want the higher-res screen and better hardware, I wouldn't call the Samsung 8.4 a rip-off at the price.
i was considering buying this tablet and was wondering if there is a list somewhere i can see that has no touchscreen or speaker problems
All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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was considering this over the galaxy tab pro/s 8.4 because i like the look of n7 more and its less expensive but i cant make up my mind about the problems it has. the first gen also had problems with the display but that was present in early batches
The Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) is still a nice device though. If you want fast updates and love to thinker around, you might still like it. Samsung offers a better build quality though but the software updates are a mess. I don´t think that I will ever touch a Samsung device again
If you don´t care about the latest Android updates, you might also consider other brands
I haven't had any problems with mine.
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All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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Not all are faulty, mine is absolutely flawless. No dead pixels, no wonky touchscreen, no reboots, nothing. Of course I had to exchange it 4 times to get a flawless one but that's beside the point.
i really dont care about the fast updates, i care much about the design. samsung tablets all look the same and the 8.4 tab s which i wanted to buy looks like a big damn phone. i like the minimalistic design with no logo or buttons on the front. i also considered the g tab 8.3 but dont really want an lg tablet. i might even consider the nexus 9 but even that has problems and is a bit expensive. google should pay more attention to their flagship products. my first generation nexus 7 worked flawlesly for 2 years and was in perfect condition but simply died one day all of a sudden and i swore i wouldnt buy another asus tablet again but there is simply no other good looking budget tablet out there.
Have you ever considered the Nvidia Shield tablet?
I currently have the Nexus 7 LTE for a little over a year. I still love the tablet, but the touchscreen issues have become unbearable. The Shield looks like a promising alternative.
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i really dont care about the fast updates, i care much about the design. samsung tablets all look the same and the 8.4 tab s which i wanted to buy looks like a big damn phone. i like the minimalistic design with no logo or buttons on the front. i also considered the g tab 8.3 but dont really want an lg tablet. i might even consider the nexus 9 but even that has problems and is a bit expensive. google should pay more attention to their flagship products. my first generation nexus 7 worked flawlesly for 2 years and was in perfect condition but simply died one day all of a sudden and i swore i wouldnt buy another asus tablet again but there is simply no other good looking budget tablet out there.
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Nvidia Shield tablet or Dell Venue 8 7000. Both amazing tablets, but they serve different purposes. If it's gaming you're into then get the Shield. If you just want an awesome tablet for browsing etc., then go for the Dell.
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Nvidia Shield tablet or Dell Venue 8 7000. Both amazing tablets, but they serve different purposes. If it's gaming you're into then get the Shield. If you just want an awesome tablet for browsing etc., then go for the Dell.
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shield tablet is expensive here, and even that has some serious problems. i think i will go with the g pad 8.3 in black version. in every review i saw it was performing better than the nexus 7, has a larger display like i wanted and comes with no touchscreen or speaker problems, then ill flash an aosp rom on it . the n7 and g pad have the same price and i think its a good replacement till i get the refresh n9.
I got my N7 2013 off Groupon this month and I wasn't sure what I'd wind up with.. Zero problems, no dead/stuck pixels, no problem with touch, haven't noticed any sound issues, etc.
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shield tablet is expensive here, and even that has some serious problems. i think i will go with the g pad 8.3 in black version. in every review i saw it was performing better than the nexus 7, has a larger display like i wanted and comes with no touchscreen or speaker problems, then ill flash an aosp rom on it . the n7 and g pad have the same price and i think its a good replacement till i get the refresh n9.
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I have a thing against all LG products, I would personally much rather have the Dell Venue 8 7000. How much is the Dell compared to the Gpad where you live? Have you looked into the Dell yet? It's probably the coolest tablet I have ever seen.
I still insist that all Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty and the Touchscreen is buggy. You might not notice the error because most the time you won´t use 3 fingers or more on it. But trust me on this, once you check the screen with test tools and try to use > 3 fingers....it will go apesh*t.
Still the Touchscreen can be usable but some guys will notice "stuck letters" or "ghost touches" from time to time. These errors can be fixed though, up to a point where the touchscreen will be reliable with 5 fingers on it.
The grounding issue and audio bug is also present on some devices, due to a faulty PCB. Maybe Asus might have fixed these errors but I cannot check this out since my batch is one of the first ever released. I fixed the errors myself and never ever had any trouble again. But still this is a reason for me to avoid another Asus device.
You don´t buy a new car and need to repair it first, in order to drive it..
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I still insist that all Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty and the Touchscreen is buggy. You might not notice the error because most the time you won´t use 3 fingers or more on it. But trust me on this, once you check the screen with test tools and try to use > 3 fingers....it will go apesh*t.
Still the Touchscreen can be usable but some guys will notice "stuck letters" or "ghost touches" from time to time. These errors can be fixed though, up to a point where the touchscreen will be reliable with 5 fingers on it.
The grounding issue and audio bug is also present on some devices, due to a faulty PCB. Maybe Asus might have fixed these errors but I cannot check this out since my batch is one of the first ever released. I fixed the errors myself and never ever had any trouble again. But still this is a reason for me to avoid another Asus device.
You don´t buy a new car and need to repair it first, in order to drive it..
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Insist all you want but I assure you mine is fine. I have had Multitiouch visualizer and one other test app installed since the day I got it and have tried numerous times to replicate the issues that people are having and have been unable to. I've tested with 2 all the way to 10 fingers- tracking is fine, all touches register, no ghost touches... perfect. My touchscreen works the way every touchscreen should. I promise you, my tablet is flawless.
Just had 8 fingers on my touchscreen with no issues what so ever. Had no problems with dead pixels or the speakers either. :highfive:
On the subject of the G pad, I had one for 24 hours which turned out to be faulty, (USB port.) In those 24 hours, I was very pleased with the speed, build quality and screen. I didnt like the bloat and some stupid decisions like the lack of a recents button. I've now got rid of my Nexus 5 for the LG G2. It has all bloat issues of the G pad but you can deal with them.
To sum up, I'd go with the G pad 8.3 if the price was the same.
If you can find GPE edition, that would be like nexus but on 8".[emoji3]
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Just had 8 fingers on my touchscreen with no issues what so ever. Had no problems with dead pixels or the speakers either. :highfive:
On the subject of the G pad, I had one for 24 hours which turned out to be faulty, (USB port.) In those 24 hours, I was very pleased with the speed, build quality and screen. I didnt like the bloat and some stupid decisions like the lack of a recents button. I've now got rid of my Nexus 5 for the LG G2. It has all bloat issues of the G pad but you can deal with them.
To sum up, I'd go with the G pad 8.3 if the price was the same.
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Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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If you cannot find a Nexus 5, it might be worth it
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Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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If you can sell the Nexus 5 and then use that Money for the g2 outright, it's Deffo an upgrade. You will need to root though to get it how you want it. Battery life is out of this world.
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Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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Get a Moto X, it blows the G2 out of the water and it's about to go on sale. Or if you can wait a month and can afford it then get that Saygus V2. That thing is like a wet dream. I cant stand anything LG, the N5 is the sole exception.
I'm planning to buy a small tablet. All I need is good display, good audio,good size and possibility to unlock root and find community support, that cost no more than 150 € second hand. I owned all the nexus , 7 2012 is too slow for those days .Nexus 7 2013 is still great for what I need, but sadly has an engineering defect that makes the touch degradate and presenting ghost touches and dead areas ( I had two of this) . Nexus 10 is a little too big and a little bit slower than nexus 7 2013 . Nexus 9 and pixel c too costly
The other only similar choose that comes to mind is the Xiaomi mipad (first model)
Do you think gpad is ok for me? Is there any notice I have to know? As hardware common defects , problems on nougat ROMs . (Just read to avoid gpe v510 version)
Any help or consideration would be helpful
It is a good tablet, but I think I would rather look for something stronger. I see a lot of lags in LOS 14.1 and seems that it won't be better. Maybe some G Pad II or G Pad III, although I am not sure if there is some LOS available for these tablets.
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It is a good tablet, but I think I would rather look for something stronger. I see a lot of lags in LOS 14.1 and seems that it won't be better. Maybe some G Pad II or G Pad III, although I am not sure if there is some LOS available for these tablets.
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And this is exactly my problem , I preferred an old nexus 10 to any other 200€ range actual tablet . Because it's not so fast, sometimes lags , cameras are not working on 7.1.2, but I know that it is stable and decent for YouTube, internet surfing and reading. I don't use any graphic intensive game and only need a bunch of apps . I tell you this because I bought 3 tablets from Asus ,Lenovo and Samsung and tried many others from Asus and other brands with 2 gigs of ram , and no one can even reach the nexus 10 performance in the long time ( after some months) , they all goes from ok and fluid to sh** , Asus more than any other . I know what I do I'm a technician with a computer/smartphone repair laboratory , there were no bloatware or any background games present ,nothing, I even tried to debloat the system the most that I could . It's because all of this that I was asking
No way buddy.
Try the galaxy tab a 10.1 wifi 2016
I bought the tab A a few months ago and its really perfect for the money (around 189€ now).
Look at me for example.
Im here right now because i forgot to charge the galaxy for a week and i have to use the g pad now, so i already search for fixes etc..
It was a good tablet for 2013-14, but not anymore.
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I'm planning to buy a small tablet. All I need is good display, good audio,good size and possibility to unlock root and find community support, that cost no more than 150 € second hand. I owned all the nexus , 7 2012 is too slow for those days .Nexus 7 2013 is still great for what I need, but sadly has an engineering defect that makes the touch degradate and presenting ghost touches and dead areas ( I had two of this) . Nexus 10 is a little too big and a little bit slower than nexus 7 2013 . Nexus 9 and pixel c too costly
The other only similar choose that comes to mind is the Xiaomi mipad (first model)
Do you think gpad is ok for me? Is there any notice I have to know? As hardware common defects , problems on nougat ROMs . (Just read to avoid gpe v510 version)
Any help or consideration would be helpful
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Don't even think about it! SD card random dismount problem has never been fixed, and the USA version was never updated beyond Jelly Bean.
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For what it's worth, I was still using my V500 for exactly the same purposes.
I wasn't on stock for long, though, having transitioned to CM12.1 and was fully satisfied with it for a long time. Of course I got the ghost touches and SD card unmounting issues, but a quick reboot would normally fix those.
Sadly, I'm here now because a recent app update sent it into a bootloop twice recently, so I'm investigating if my device is past its age...
As you should be able to pick up a v500 for something like $70, it may be worth a punt. I put Lineage 14.1 on the Mrs's v500 and its pretty good. The only time it really lags is when its woken from a long doze. Just bear in mind the screen isn't a patch on the Nexus 7 2013 as it has poor black levels and a yellow tint.
If I was in your boat, I'd also look out for a second hand Galaxy Tab S2 8". I bought mine a year ago in the UK for £190 from a CeX store so you should be able to pick one up much cheaper now. The lack of weight and screen of the S2 are amazing.
The S2 is very good for the money, though mine was $220 used, and my wife's v500(just bought it) was only $70. Right now I'm kinda wondering why I spent so much for the Samsung.
We'll see if I still think that in a couple weeks. But so far, I would say if you want a good cheap tablet, get the v500, and flash it with LOS. If you want the best used tablet in this size, for ~$200-$240, get the S2. Oh, and get the 2016 version. Not the 2015. LOS support for the 2016 is better. SM-T713 is what you want. The 710 is kinda dead, and it has been for a long time now.
But pertaining strictly to the OP, yes I would buy one today.
Because there is no other better LG tablet with custom ROM support, I think the best choice would be buying Google Pixel C.
Just a update for you my man, if you can, just buy the Lenovo P8 (don't know it's other names). It's a straight up update to the g pad 8.3, but if you still want it, buy the v500 man, it's a good tablet for around basics and intermediate needs
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Just a update for you my man, if you can, just buy the Lenovo P8 (don't know it's other names). It's a straight up update to the g pad 8.3, but if you still want it, buy the v500 man, it's a good tablet for around basics and intermediate needs
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Or Nexus 9, I just bought one used on ebay for some 100 €
Maybe G Pad X 8.0 would be also a fine replacement, it support LOS, according to their downoad site.
Hmmmm.....
I am the user of lg g pad 8.3. If you will use the lg gpad 8.3 I strongly recommend you to flash LNG OS 14.1 on the pad.
OR FIND STRONGER ONE.
I wonder how do I use my old V500. I bought an older Nexus 9 and do not use V500 since then. I cannot use it as a video player cause it does not have a HDMI output. Maybe some video/audio player to kitchen, but it is not very usable without a remote. Any suggestions?
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I wonder how do I use my old V500. I bought an older Nexus 9 and do not use V500 since then. I cannot use it as a video player cause it does not have a HDMI output. Maybe some video/audio player to kitchen, but it is not very usable without a remote.
Any suggestions?
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Bluetooth mouse.
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Bluetooth mouse.
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I know, I have one, but use it for a notebook. Also, it is not very suitable like a remote for a tablet.
I am rather thinking about alternative use for my V500
Btw, happy new year, everyone.
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(...) Also, it is not very suitable like a remote for a tablet.
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bluetooth remote controller
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Or Nexus 9, I just bought one used on ebay for some 100 €
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Have to totally disagree with this. The Nexus 9 is by far the worst Android device I've ever experienced. The v500 can actually hold things in memory where the N9 has to constantly boot them out due to lack of RAM. I've tried custom roms on the N9, custom kernels with tricks like zRAM but the performance is still way too inconsistent. The only solution for the N9 is sending it to China for someone to solder in another 2GB RAM.
If you can get a v500 today for the right money and the right condition, its still better than many cheap sub £100/$130 tablets that are kicking around. LOS is needed though.
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Have to totally disagree with this. The Nexus 9 is by far the worst Android device I've ever experienced. The v500 can actually hold things in memory where the N9 has to constantly boot them out due to lack of RAM. I've tried custom roms on the N9, custom kernels with tricks like zRAM but the performance is still way too inconsistent. The only solution for the N9 is sending it to China for someone to solder in another 2GB RAM.
If you can get a v500 today for the right money and the right condition, its still better than many cheap sub £100/$130 tablets that are kicking around. LOS is needed though.
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I do not agree. I use Nexus 9 now with LOS 15.1 and it runs much better than v500, of course. Maybe It could be a little faster, but anyway it is very good. Only the battery seems to be weaker than v500 has, it discharges a little faster.
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I do not agree. I use Nexus 9 now with LOS 15.1 and it runs much better than v500, of course. (...)
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It can not work much better because there is no LOS 15.1 for v500.