Hi guys, I am looking to purchase a new tablet (7" to below 10") and I am torn between getting the Nexus 7 (2013), an iPad Mini (probably my first Apple device) and the LG G Pad 8.3... this was brought about when I accompanied my wife and bought her a new cellphone the LG G2 hehe.
I am a little bit leaning towards the G Pad... if not for issues that I'm not sure are real... such as no App2SD option? And the lack of casing and accessories.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Yes. I recommend G Pad:good:
App2SD will be available with OS upgrade (4.3 has it)
I have now rooted my G Pad and moved entire 7GB app data to external SD. It work flawless.
There are good cases also available. I got it along with G-Pad.
You can also see G Pad review videos on youtube, have see some good cases (I don't remember the name of the video exactly)
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That's great to hear! Thanks for the post. I'm a bit hesitant to jump in due to the SD concern... Hmm, does the OS upgrade available off the box? or depends on area / location? Hmm, I used to root my devices... but since I'm busier now-a-days... don't have time doing roots. Yup, seen several videos but no "real" hands-on experience from people who actually used the device and not simply doing a review and had the device for a day.
Hmm, anyone who had both the Nexus 7 (2013) and the G Pad 8.3? To do a comparison?
I was my self just a couple of days ago trying to decide which tablet to go with. Can´t help you with Apple products because i will kill or destroy any objects in my house that is made by thiefs like Apple. Countless of hours went in to researching which one that would give me the most bang for the buck. I had my eyes on the Nexus 7 (2nd gen) since i do not want a 10.1 inch tablet. A 7" would do fine but i was naggin me that i was "only" 7". But when i got to the store to pick the nexus up i saw the LG G PAD 8.3. It had everything i was looking for! a screen that was a bigger than 7" and smaller than the 10".
The problem in the store was that i knew nothing about the LG G pad so i went home again to researh it! (CRAP!!). I found lots of tests both international and 2-3 here in sweden. They all stated the same thing which was that the LG G Pad 8.3 i very impressive.
I went back the same night and picked one up and i have now used it for 14 days. I am loving it. The Pad feels really comfortable and it feels "exclusive" with the aluminium backside. The cameras perform well both front and back.
Pros:
Fantastic screen
Fast and no lag (and i have not rooted it yet but i will to make it go even smoother)
Awesome size but i can still use one hand
Expandable memory
LG apps with for ex. Qpair
Cons:
Speakers on the backside sounds bad (although i can use headphones instead)
Cant find any accessories here in sweden for it and i had to import from ebay - 4 weeks shipping
I don´t know if its my battery that is optimized yet but the batterytime could use another hour or so.
On its own the nexus 7 is a great device, great screen, great software, great price. Place the G Pad next to it and the greatness starts to dissipate quite fast.
Ignoring the specs for one moment the G Pad looks and feels so much better, there is an air of quality not too dissimilar to the IPad. Of course the look is subjective but i love the white version and silver back.
The extra screen really makes a difference, everbody talks about 8" being the sweet spot, and for me they are right. The nexus 7 feels tiny now and i always feel short changed using it.
The nexus 7 screen does look a little sharper and brighter when web browsing but it is very close.
Generally the chips are not too disimilar, the Nexus 7 performs slighty better likely due to running a pure OS compared to LG, and battery life is much better on the Nexus 7, very likely due to the OS again. The LG will get better battery performance over time, either through dev support or software updates.
Add in expandable memory which should be a must on all devices and you have a winner. There is a very good guide on these pages for root. Its a 5 minute job and then you can move apps to sd in a flash.
The LG Pad population is growing quickly, it was slow to start, very little advertising and it was not pushed hard but word has certainly got round now.
Go for it, you know you want to.
-What is your budget?
-do you have a preference for either android or IOS?
I love my G Pad. The 8.3" is just the right size. Both for Notes taking and watching movies. Sadly I had to exchange it 2 times because of damaged display (not my fault), but the 3rd one is perfekt so far. My 4,7" LG 4X HD is so small when I worked with the G Pad for a while. It's really comfortable reading emails, browsing the web, reading articles, chatting. Playing games. And still mobile everywhere I go. I caried a A5 Notebook all the time with me, so I just swapped it for this nice device The big benefit is the Full HD Diplay, everything is so crystal clear.
Apple is just too expensive and I don't want an apple device anymore. There is only one button (I missed my "return" and "settings" button) and really a limit to what you can do with it.
Nexus 7 is too small and has these large brezzels.
G Pad is better than I pad because G comes before I in alphabets lol?
You mentioned that you didn't have time to root the phone. A developer who frequents this forum has developed a root method that will take about 5 minutes or less.
If you have enough time to load up the phone with so many apps that you're worried about app2sd, then you certainly have time to root the phone.
It does take some time to find a good case, but there are some out there. A few people have reported problems with their device and some have had to replace it, but it sounds like more people have had problems with the Nexus 7.
If you can find it at a good price, give it a try.
I just bought both last week and got my G Pad in yesterday. I will write up a longer comparison review when I can, but suffice it to say I'm writing this on my G Pad and the Nexus 7 is getting returned...
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I picked one up yesterday and REALLY like it. I've had 7" tablets (Nook Color), 10" tablets (iPad 3), and 9" tablets (Nook HD+), so this pretty much completes the collection with an ~8" tablet that effectively splits the difference between those. The thin bezel makes it feel much smaller than, say, the Nook HD+, but the screen is really only 0.6" smaller diagonally, so it's a similar experience with less heft. The hardware is outstanding with a beautiful display, silk-smooth performance, and even though many reviews say that LG has really modified Android, I'm finding it's closer to AOSP than, say, Samsung by a long shot. It's mostly reskinned rather than completely reorganized.
To me this is the closest thing to an Android equivalent to the iPad Mini Retina. Yes, it's slightly larger vertically and the pixel density is slightly lower, but when you get close to 300 DPI (this one is 273 DPI, I think), it's imperceptible to the human eye anyway.
I've rooted it, primarily to use Titanium Backup to restore from a backup I made on the Nook HD+, but also to use some apps like fullscreen+ to make certain apps like games and book/magazine readers run 100% full screen without the status or nav bars. I do hope LG releases and official upgrade to 4.3 or even 4.4, but this device is so smooth I'm not sure that's really necessary.
I have a 32GB microSD card that I'd been using in the HD+ that I'll put into this device to hold media and such, but even with every app I had on the HD+ installed, the internal storage is only 1/3 full or so. The stock ROM is way less bloated than, say, my Samsung Galaxy S4 where it's half gone before you ever put your own first app on it!
The main thing that's missing in my opinion is peripherals such as cases and covers. I'm accustomed to having dozens from which to choose on the other devices I've owned (except for the Touchpad), and I'm only seeing a very small number of cases/covers, none of which really do much for me. I'd love to see Poetic release a Slimline smart cover for this device! I love the one I have for the HD+.
Anyway, I give this device exceptionally high marks as hitting an almost perfect sweet spot in the Android tablet market in terms of size, performance, features, and price!
I have the Nexus 7 gen2, and my LG G pad V 500 is on its way Tuesday. But I've already played with one and I can tell you the 8.3 is the way to go. The form factor is infinitely easier to use in every regard. There's nothing negative I can say about the Nexus 7 2013. I absolutely love it but I simply don't need it now as it would be redundant. So I'm selling it to a friend for exactly what I paid for it and keeping the LG 8 inch. I also have a Nexus 10 for watching movies Nexus 4 for daily use. ... and Neptune pine on order through Kickstarter for what it's worth
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Lcwells,
Thanks for that advice! To those who don't want to root the device but still want to get maximum screen real-estate you can simply do what I do and download Go Launcher from the App Store for free. I use it on all my devices and I love it because you can take away all notification bars. Plus it's freaking awesome to use and does not slow down the device. Add pie control and you're all set.
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What kind of results are you guys getting on benchmarks? I'm really interested on getting this device. I have a Nexus 10 that I've enjoyed for about a year now. Wondering how much more of an improvement the LG G pad is compared tonit. In performance. I'll be using this tablet if I get it for gaming mostly. Thanks.
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I've owned all the major tablets out there.. and I love this one. I've had every gen iPad 9.7", first gen ipad mini, both Nexus 7's, and the g Pad. So far, I'm extremely pleased with this one. Build quality feels better than the Nexus 7's, and portability is excellent. The case availability stinks right now (I do want the slim one, but they are not readily available, unless you want to spend a ton on ebay).
GL!
Thanks
Thanks for the reply guys. I'm sure I am not the only one who will benefit from the postings. I'll be getting the tablet next week - during my bday as a gift from my wife. Since she asked me what I wanted for my bday. Looking forward to do the 5min rooting... to be able to fulling maximize SD storage. Will also post my experience with the tablet once I get it. Feel free to continue posting advice or recommendations since I am sure there are a lot of people wondering what Android tablet to get this Holiday Season.
abdulm said:
Yes. I recommend G Pad:good:
App2SD will be available with OS upgrade (4.3 has it)
I have now rooted my G Pad and moved entire 7GB app data to external SD. It work flawless.
There are good cases also available. I got it along with G-Pad.
You can also see G Pad review videos on youtube, have see some good cases (I don't remember the name of the video exactly)
Trust this helps!
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I rooted my Lenovo A2109 tablet but still could not move my biggest apps to my sdcard. Then I found out about the mount bind trick, where you redirect the system to a new directory. I moved my Google Newsstand, with 8gb of data, to my sdcard this way. Each time my tablet boots, it runs this command:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
mount -o bind /sdcard2/Linked/com.google.android.apps.magazines /data/data/com.google.android.apps.magazines
Basically, you run the mount command, with the bind option, followed by the destination directory and source directory. You will need root, but this will move even those pesky apps that the app2sd applications can't. Me so happy
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jjdevega said:
What kind of results are you guys getting on benchmarks? I'm really interested on getting this device. I have a Nexus 10 that I've enjoyed for about a year now. Wondering how much more of an improvement the LG G pad is compared tonit. In performance. I'll be using this tablet if I get it for gaming mostly. Thanks.
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According to these numbers, the G Pad slays the Nexus 7:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_pad_83-review-1004p5.php
I highly recommend the G Pad. Honestly, I have had a few Android devices (and the iPad mini and iPhones before that) and although I love the functionality of Android, I always felt that the iOS is superior in terms of user experience. Well after getting the G Pad, I no longer feel this way. Seriously, if all Android devices are at least as good as this in the future, I can think of absolutely no reason to go with an iPad or iPhone anymore.
PROS:
-Great screen: I've shown it to a few people and they have all commented on how nice it looks. The PPI may not be as high as the Nexus 7 2013 or iPad mini 2013 but unless you have a magnifying glass (i tried ), you won't notice the difference. As far as I can tell, the screen is very accurate and doesn't look yellowish or greyish as reported by some people. It's definitely better than a lot of the AMOLED screens on some Samsung devices which can look blueish or greenish.
-Tiny bezel: People complain that it makes it hard to hold but I've found several positions that make it quite comfortable. It also makes everything on the display pop out. It makes devices like the Nexus 7 look primitive by comparison (like an old television set compared to a flat screen).
-Performance: The main reason why I think it's on par with any iOS device. The interface feels buttery smooth and games and apps run without any stutters. People might say that most of the latest devices that run Jelly Bean are like this but I am really picky when it comes to this and unfortunately, most devices just don't feel up to the standard of iOS. With the G Pad however, I'd say it's 99% there. I've noticed one or two stutters sometimes when going back to the Homescreen but it's so minuscule that it doesn't bother me.
-Well placed speakers: IMO, the speakers are in a great place. Sure, when it's in portrait mode, they're both bunched up to the left but chances are, it doesn't really matter where the sound is coming from when you're in portrait mode. It's in landscape where it matters for stuff like gaming and movies. In terms of placement, you can't satisfy every position unless you stick 4 speakers in there like the Sony Xperia Tablet Z so I think LG's solution is quite good, especially since they're in a place that can't be blocked easily by your hands.
-Optimus UI: This depends on your taste. I really like the look and functionality of what's being offered by LG. I believe they have struck a perfect balance between style and functionality as opposed to just functionality (Stock) or just style (Samsung).
-Build Quality: This thing feels like a luxury device. It's tiny (without sacrificing screen real estate), has an aluminium back panel and the plastic they use on the other parts of the device feels as nice and solid as the metal parts.
-MicroSD support: Pretty much explains itself.
CONS:
-Battery life: It's not terrible, but definitely below average. I'm a pretty heavy user and most of the time, I have around 10% left after spending 12 hours out of the house. Your mileage may be different but I can say that this is the first tablet I've owned where I ran out of battery before I was able to plug it in after coming home. This only happened once but i'll definitely be bringing my charger from now on. Also, I noticed that even when plugged into my computer, the battery still goes down if I'm using it (although rather slowly). This also has not happened with any of my other devices which suggests that it uses quite a lot of power as opposed to having a weak battery (but I guess then they should've put in a bigger battery which would of course made the device bigger and heavier).
-Auto-Brightness: Unlike many people, I don't think the screen is potentially too dim. At maximum, it's as good as I could ever need on a sunny day. The only problem is that the auto-brightness is not very reliable because it tends to adjust to the dimmer side. It's not unusable but I would certainly prefer it if it was a touch brighter a lot of the time.
-Snapdragon 600: As I mentioned earlier, this thing is fast. But knowing that it doesn't come with the latest and greatest is a little annoying as far as pride is concerned and also for future proofing. But the competition isn't that great either (with the real exception being the iPad mini). The Kindle HDX has a Snapdragon 800 but unless you want to be locked out of the Play Store, I don't see that as a viable option at all. The Nexus 7 has an even older processor (although it seems to be able to punch above it's weight). At this price and size range, the only other option are some of the Tegra 4 devices like the Tegra Note but then you have yourself a tiny screen with a much lower resolution as well as a huge bezel.
Anyways, that's my take. Wrote a bit more than I was planning to but what can I say, I just can't stop talking about this device
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I have the Nexus 7 gen2, and my LG G pad V 500 is on its way Tuesday. But I've already played with one and I can tell you the 8.3 is the way to go. The form factor is infinitely easier to use in every regard. There's nothing negative I can say about the Nexus 7 2013. I absolutely love it but I simply don't need it now as it would be redundant. So I'm selling it to a friend for exactly what I paid for it and keeping the LG 8 inch. I also have a Nexus 10 for watching movies Nexus 4 for daily use. ... and Neptune pine on order through Kickstarter for what it's worth
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Lcwells,
Thanks for that advice! To those who don't want to root the device but still want to get maximum screen real-estate you can simply do what I do and download Go Launcher from the App Store for free. I use it on all my devices and I love it because you can take away all notification bars. Plus it's freaking awesome to use and does not slow down the device. Add pie control and you're all set.
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Scwells... sorry
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Mostly I see people using Nova Launcher but if you recommend Go Launcher instead of stock UI, I'll give it a try but how does one eliminate all the notification bars? And what is pie control?
I'm not a rooter, maybe I can get a friend to do it if it is easy and a 5 minute process but I feel many don't do it and we would all be interested in getting as much as we can from a device as possible without doing so. Whatever other recommendations you can make would be great! Thanks!
I hope more people try the G Pad. I cannot put it down and wouldn't have to except I rather have it charge while idle but then again that only adds to the anticipation of using this great device again ASAP.
As far as the Kindle Fire HDX? I'll take the G Pad anyday and I also cannot stop talking about this device either. So glad I tried one on for size!
100% recommend the G Pad. Smooth, fast, very little bloat, and very sleek.
Pie control: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol&hl=en
Takes the very best feature of the stock google browser (and the only reason I'm using it and not Chrome) and makes it functional for the main interface.
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It seems that the nexus 7 is coming out with a 3g version. When I decided to jump into the tablet game, I had two requirements: less than 10inches and data capable (and no apple lol).
Unfortunately in Canada the selection was severely lacking (still the same now), and I was really wanting a 7in tablet but none were available (the galaxy tab 7.7 and 7+ didn't come out until several months later)and so i ended up with my i957. I had long been looking to sell the tab once my current phone contact expires next year, but with the recent advancements in rom development had made me liking my tab a lot more than before.
I did love the screen size eventually tho , especially when i was watching all the hockey, NBA and Olympic games.
So anyways my question is, how much faster is the nexus7 compare to the i957? Is it worth it to go to the nexus 7? I guess part of the question is how much i can sell the i957 for .
Thanks
I've got a Nexus 7, bought it on launch day from London Drugs. Well, I bought *a* Nexus 7 on launch day, the one I have now is the third one, the other two having been replaced under warranty (bad USB, and massive screen lift, respectively).
Besides not being in my possession for over a month thanks to the warranty issues, I simply don't find myself reaching for it that often. Audio is HORRIBLE, making it a truly mediocre media device without headphones. Display is more washed-out looking as well. And the device is plagued with creaks and squeaks.
I find the i957 feels better in the hand, is ALMOST as comfortable to use for long periods of time, has haptic feedback (didn't think I'd miss that as much as I did), is a far superior media device, has better battery life, and is a better browsing experience.
The Nexus 7 is faster, but for me the only real place this shows up is in gaming, and I simply don't use a tablet (or any Android device) for any serious amount of gaming so that's almost a non-factor for me.
It's arguably better as an e-book reader thanks to the small form factor, but the 957 isn't exactly a brick either.
The Nexus 7 also uses a standard microUSB charger, which is handy, one less cable to take when travelling. And of course, it'll fit in a pants or jacket pocket where the Tab 8.9 will not.
I do like having access to pure Jellybean and fast Google updates, but it isn't a "game changer", even less so with ICS now on the 957.
I used to be a big fan of the 7" form-factor, also having an OG Bell Tab 7" and a Nook Colour, and I've owned several 10" tablets, but the 8.9 spoiled me, to me it's "just right" for a tablet. The addition of ICS this week solved my biggest issue, which was not having Chrome.
As for resale value, I see NIB locked Rogers, Bell and Telus i957's for sale on the Vancouver Craigslist for as low as $250, so you could just about swap out even for a 16Gb Nexus 7 provided you could actually find a buyer. But I think that would be a mistake, you won't be as happy with it if media is your thing.
Hey there, I gotta say I disagree almost entirely with the comment above mine. Seems like the guy just got a sour taste in his mouth with the Nexus 7 after he allegedly got two detective units.
Anyway. I preordered mine got it with free overnight shipping within two days from when Google first started shipping them.
Stock it is fast and fluid. Rooted and running a custom ROM? It can easily become twice as fast and fluid.
I'm running CodenameSammy, an extremely quick and responsive ROM with TouchWiz and other Samsung extras based off CNA. I gotta say this is the best ROM I have yet to use and the fastest.
The guy above me also moans about the tablet being bad for media. I'm not sure what he is referring to, but I am constantly streaming and watching 720p video and the IPS display is sharp and spot on with colors.
It sucks it doesn't replace a boombox for sound. Haha, I'm kidding, next to my sister's iPad 3 I can confirm the sound is just as loud and clear, as much as you can expect from a tablet anyway.
In short, to stop my ranting, I can definitely recommend the Nexus 7 to anyone. Specially the tech savy, who will undoubtedly make use of the device to its full potential.
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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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I was in the same dilemma as well. If you don't mind the size, the Note 2 is the better choice. The Nexus 4 may get the faster updates but we're on xda anyway so pretty much any phone with a good community will get updates.
Personally, if I had a choice between those 2 phones, I would prefer the Note 2. I'm a bit biased because I've been with Samsung for so long and I don't trust any other brand other than them. LOL. But from an unbiased point, the Nexus 4 provides faster updates (as mentioned), the Krait processor, and it's Google. Note 2 has a bunch of useful features and now we have some very reputable and brilliant developers in our community which will jump start our development. There's even an Android 4.2 (WIP) coming for us!
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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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Note 2 hands down...more features and great dev support.
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I've used both and ended up sticking with the note 2 there's nothing out there right now that can compare to its specs not even goggles own baby
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Did you ask this same question in the Nexus 4 section? lol...It's gonna be hard to get an unbiased opinion when you ask a question like that in a section specifically for one of the phones
Having said that, I had the LG Optimus G, and aside from the LG skin (which wasn't TOO horrible) it was a good phone, but I still promptly exchanged it for a Note 2 and don't regret it one bit. I have never had good experiences with LG phones. The display was beautiful though.
I have a note 2 and my buddy has a nexus 4. I thought the nexus 4 screen looks way better then note 2 screen hands down in my opinion. The build quality and feel of nexus 4 is also much better. However no removable battery no lte, and no sd card support are major deal breakers. 16gb is just not enough with games and apps installed. At least if they made a 32gb version.
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The nexus 4 has some attractive points. LTE maybe less of an issue if you in Canada. The screen is nice and it's a fast performer.
But for me the lack of MicroSD and non-removable is a no go for me. Not only is battery life on the Note 2 awesome, but I have a spare battery i can use if every needed. I also really like having the s pen and the 5.5" screen i greatly enjoy. The size of the note is not for everyone, I'm OK with it.
You have to decide how important each of these factors are to you. Once you do that I'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.
If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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You're lucky you never tried the Thrill then...
I need more time before trying LG again. The guy at the AT&T store tried to get me to buy the Optimus G when the Note was not in stock yet. The nexus might be okay if LG isn't responsible for the software.
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When you ask such question in Note 2 forum, my feeling is that you are going to get some bias answer.
I have both phones, and I think both phone are top notch in their own way. Here's what I think:
Nexus 4
- Very solid build, the construction is as solid as iPhone. Feels great in hand.
- The display does produce some relatively accurate colour compare to my IPS displays. I do a lot of photo editing/viewing. On the other hand, the sAMOLED does throw the colour off a bit by over saturated (nature of AMOLED), with the "natural" profile on Note2, it does become closer to real colour. Pixel density on the N4 is also better, but it's not critical as the Note 2 display is pretty sharp with the sAMOLED HD.
- AOSP, AOSP, AOSP! If you aren't a fan of Touchwiz, this is what you should keep. Not just the updates, as they don't come everyday. It's the user experience. Samsung does add a lot of neat feature that many can't live without, but in my honest opinion, AOSP does provide a nice layout and great feature out the box. I am also not a huge fan of Samsung's oversized UI, either.
- Believe it or not, the on screen button is a very important "feature" of N4 - You now have a place to put your thumb when you hold the phone, especially when passing the phone to people to show them stuff...without accidentally touching any of the buttons. However, also because of the on screen button, you do lose some screen estate.
- Buttery smooth, yes, smoother than the "more powerful" Note 2
- The price - You are indeed getting a lot of phone for the price that you are paying.
- Battery is medicore, partially due to bugs of 4.2 I believe. Dead locks are draining the battery.
- Lack of SD card might be a deal breaker for you. It isn't for me.
- Camera sucks.
Note 2
- Huge display, this is probably the max that you can carry with the borderline portability. The display is beneficial for reading stuff, browsing, sharing contents with friends
- The battery is ridiculous. The size, with the power management of the software makes it unreal. I get average 2 hours of light/moderate usage per 10%, on LTE.
- Touchwiz - To use the full features of the Note2, you probably don't want AOSP. The S-Pen works well with touchwiz, and I find touchwiz works well with large displays due to the oversized UI elements
- Size - It's pocketable, but it's not extremely comfortable. Taking in and out, using it in public, talking on it looks very awkward. No matter how big your hands are, how big of a person you are, this IS larger than your average phone by a lot
- One hand usability - Samsung does have some one hand accessibility but in general, reaching for places around the screen is a struggle with one hand
- Great sound - Speaker, and headphone jack.
- Strong vibrator
- S Pen - Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick. It's fun to fool around with it, but the hype tends to die off quickly
- FAST charging. Nexus 4 is fast, but Note 2 is even faster consider it's massive battery. This is a very important feature to me.
- Impressive camera, but not that it's any/much better than that of SGS3
- Oh, if you don't have a 7" tablet yet, this should fill that gap a bit.
As it stands, Note 2 has some very attractive points to me, such as the large display for reading and the insane battery life that makes me not to worry about being close to a charger. However, I don't feel comfortable using it on a daily basis due to the size. WIth that said, I am using a Note 2 now as I gave my Nexus 4 (8GB) to my other half. I have a 16GB coming in a month, and I will re-evaluate it again by then.
These two phones are pretty much Android in it's best form in today's market, and they are not substitutable for each other due to the different nature of them. The phone war has evolved to beyond to the specs-war just like computing world. The "better specs" of Note 2 doesn't necessary determine whether the phone is better or not, and with that said, Nexus 4 specs is pretty impressive too. You need to pick your own base on your need
Hope it helps a bit with your decision! Any more specific questions you have that can help with your decision, just ask. It's a tough one to make.
Awesome thanks for the input its a huge decision I think of will end up keeping the note
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The Nexus 4 ultimately had too many drawbacks for me to consider it. The thermal throttling issues with the S4Pro processor, the non-swapable battery with less than stellar battery life, the limited storage without microSD expansion, the glass back prone to cracking, and no LTE. And now we find out that the Nexus 4 cannot support USB-OTG, so all those who bought one thinking they could move files over to an external drive are SOL. No USB keyboards/mice/Dualshock etc. Not a big deal if you have bluetooth peripherals, but I want to have as many options as possible. The Note II is a superhero in that regard...
I have the Note 2 and personally love it, but if you don't need the size, then nexus 4 is a much better option. I love the vanilla 4.2 JB and the screen is much crispier, any build quality is top notch [I have both phones]
If note 2 had a 1080 display then, I would so Note 2 hands down.
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac11700 said:
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
cy88 said:
Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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I was bias because I love/have the Note 2 so much but the size, right?
What I said: "S Pen -Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick." - You do, so it's not a gimmick for you for sure. I know a few people that do have a use for it and I am impressed with how they make use of it for work purposes.
Which other point of my post is pure bias? I simply listed out the things I from with using both devices, I never said one is better for another for everyone. However Mac did say that "you are GOING to want one", "BUGS with 4.2", etc etc to just praise the Note 2. OP is trying to make a decision, and words like that aren't going to make his choice easier is it?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
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I might have worded it wrong, but the fact that it's bigger than normal does draw attention. Yes, you can choose not to care about anyone thinks at all, but there are some actually "dont" want to draw that type of attention with a device. It is a fact that Note 2 is humongous, and that's ALSO it's selling point. Unless you have a need and can live with the size, otherwise you might want to look at other alternatives like SGS3 (which i have one sitting here also if you want comparison) that offers something in the middle.
I apologize if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way, wasn't the intention.
Cheers!
What s the best?
G pad.
http://thediplomat.com/tech-biz/201...us-7-2013-small-but-powerful-android-tablets/
Plus, it HAS to have better support and fewer bugs than the N7 2013.
Worth the $70 more for the larger screen, external storage, and better QC.
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G pad.
http://thediplomat.com/tech-biz/201...us-7-2013-small-but-powerful-android-tablets/
Plus, it HAS to have better support and fewer bugs than the N7 2013.
Worth the $70 more for the larger screen, external storage, and better QC.
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Nexus 7 will have more up to date android, is smaller & cheaper and costs $120/$80 less (16/32GB), will be easier to root/unlock/restore to stock. If there will be a Google Play edition for Gpad 8.3 then I might consider it, but I am not leaving AOSP for LG skin 4.2.2.
I would also hold it on the "better support and fewer bugs", the Nexus 7 multitouch & GPS bugs didn't show up until consumers started buying it in large numbers, and Google have fixes for both out already.
If you prefer bigger screen & is ok with LG's android skin/or counting on a small dev community then Gpad would be good for you, but nothing imo matches a Nexus device's timely updates/ease of root & unlock/large developer community.
It's all about choices....
ATP, I'd take reliability and customer service (and screen size and SD card storage) over user customization.
We don't know if the LG can or will be rooted, so that part is speculation at best.
LG is heavier. Lower pixel density. Back is aluminum (I prefer plastic feeling). Lg has no wireless charging.
From my standpoint:
Weight is no issue.
Screen is an inch larger with same resolution (and far better than iPad mini)- no issue.
Aluminum back is a plus- less flex
Wireless charging- no issue, as you have to buy the wireless charger separately for the N7 2013 if you don't already have one.
N7 2013 relies on cloud storage only unless you want an OTG cable and thumb drive hanging out of it. Gpad accepts up to 64G micro SD.
http://thediplomat.com/tech-biz/201...us-7-2013-small-but-powerful-android-tablets/
As I said, it's all a matter of choice, and I'm happy that we have it.
Wish the Gpad had been sold when I bought my N7 2013. After returning my 3rd I'd have just added the $70 and been done with it rather than spending the last 90+ days as an extended (unpaid) beta tester for Google/ASUS and their stream of updates that only break the device further with each release. I'm not alone in that, either.
Luckily, the majority of N7 2013s are working well, and are a stunning value for the money.
So i'm not the only one that noticed the Nexus 7's body has some flex to it even without applying any real strength ?
I would really like to see the G Pad in person , but i still prefer the Nexus , for android lovers the nexus brand says it all, its like you know you don't just have any device.. you have a Nexus .
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So i'm not the only one that noticed the Nexus 7's body has some flex to it even without applying any real strength ?
I would really like to see the G Pad in person , but i still prefer the Nexus , for android lovers the nexus brand says it all, its like you know you don't just have any device.. you have a Nexus .
Why do these threads keep popping up? What do people not get about "preference". There is no best. At least try to start the thread in a sensible manner, like:
My usage case is ....
I have this much money to spend....
It is important for me to have feature xyz...
Then we can start to have a discussion about the features, the pros and cons and what might suit you best. As these usually are, I find them to be absolutely useless and they more often than not deteriorate quickly.
Amen!
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Why do these threads keep popping up? What do people not get about "preference". There is no best. At least try to start the thread in a sensible manner, like:
My usage case is ....
I have this much money to spend....
It is important for me to have feature xyz...
Then we can start to have a discussion about the features, the pros and cons and what might suit you best. As these usually are, I find them to be absolutely useless and they more often than not deteriorate quickly.
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±1. This guy @swisstourist is starting all these threads in Q&A when one already exists in general. -_- Though, Q&A is the better section, even one of these kind of threads is unnecessary.
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Hi,
I am planning to purchase an Android tablet but scratching my head which model to go for, Nexus 7 2013 or LG G Pad 8.3 (non Google Play Edition). Could anyone provide some buying guidelines? Love the brush aluminium back plate of the G Pad and the screen size but crave for the stock android on Nexus. Also I prefer a better battery back up. Please help educate me. Many thanks!
Do you really think you will get the advise to buy the G-pad on THIS forum?
I looked at both but bought the Nexus, the screen is better, the size suits me perfectly but most of all you can do so much more to it because of it being a nexus device!
Nexus 7. Lots of support.
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Hi,
I am planning to purchase an Android tablet but scratching my head which model to go for, Nexus 7 2013 or LG G Pad 8.3 (non Google Play Edition). Could anyone provide some buying guidelines? Love the brush aluminium back plate of the G Pad and the screen size but crave for the stock android on Nexus. Also I prefer a better battery back up. Please help educate me. Many thanks!
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Depends on what you want to do with your tab. I have both, and I tend to use the Nexus 7 a bit more only because it's easier to carry around. I am not sure about its screen being better than the Gpad. For movies I prefer the Gpad.
I'm certain you've done some research on the specs of both. But if I were you, I'd go for the LG since (1) it has a bigger screen; (2) it has less hardware glitches; (3) you might get it for less because it's lesser known (but not necessarily inferior specs-wise). Unless you're a flash-freak, that is. I just saw lollipop support for the LG the other day.
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Depends on what you want to do with your tab. I have both, and I tend to use the Nexus 7 a bit more only because it's easier to carry around. I am not sure about its screen being better than the Gpad. For movies I prefer the Gpad.
I'm certain you've done some research on the specs of both. But if I were you, I'd go for the LG since (1) it has a bigger screen; (2) it has less hardware glitches; (3) you might get it for less because it's lesser known (but not necessarily inferior specs-wise). Unless you're a flash-freak, that is. I just saw lollipop support for the LG the other day.
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Hi graphdarnell,
Actually battery life is my main concern, I seek good battery backup, I would say I use it mainly for some internet surfing, play some not so graphical intensive games such as Clash Of Clans and Angry Birds, check mails, Youtube and basically that's all. I don't watch movies on a tab. Well actually I was thinking about Nexus 7 (2013) because of the new stock Lollipop OS. Will G pad getting it as well or only the Google Play Edition? The hardware glitches you mentioned, what are those? Thanks mate for your reply and I hope you could guide me on my purchase. Cheerz~!
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Hi graphdarnell,
Actually battery life is my main concern, I seek good battery backup, I would say I use it mainly for some internet surfing, play some not so graphical intensive games such as Clash Of Clans and Angry Birds, check mails, Youtube and basically that's all. I don't watch movies on a tab. Well actually I was thinking about Nexus 7 (2013) because of the new stock Lollipop OS. Will G pad getting it as well or only the Google Play Edition? The hardware glitches you mentioned, what are those? Thanks mate for your reply and I hope you could guide me on my purchase. Cheerz~!
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Yes. I do have to say that battery life on the Nexus 7 is slightly better, but given what you said you'd do with the tab, I don't know if that should be of utmost concern. The most intractable problem with the Nexus 7 is the touchscreen, in my opinion. So many have it, and there's no absolute cure. Once you have it, it won't go away. The worst of it is that it's intermittent. Most noticeably so as the battery goes down towards the 25% limit.
Some devs are working on Lollipop for the Gpad. Hopefully, it will be stable enough for daily use soon. Right now, it's at Beta stage. Hope this helps, and happy Thanksgiving if you celebrate it.
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Yes. I do have to say that battery life on the Nexus 7 is slightly better, but given what you said you'd do with the tab, I don't know if that should be of utmost concern. The most intractable problem with the Nexus 7 is the touchscreen, in my opinion. So many have it, and there's no absolute cure. Once you have it, it won't go away. The worst of it is that it's intermittent. Most noticeably so as the battery goes down towards the 25% limit.
Some devs are working on Lollipop for the Gpad. Hopefully, it will be stable enough for daily use soon. Right now, it's at Beta stage. Hope this helps, and happy Thanksgiving if you celebrate it.
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Hi,
Does the touch screen issue apply to all Nexus 7 units? Or just some batches? In this case I think it is better to get the G pad instead... what a let down from Asus ... sob sob ...
I kept my N7 after returning G-Pad-not enough brightness for me. If I were looking for an 8in tab today, the current Bestbuy price of $199. for the Samsung Galaxy tabpro 8.4 would have me looking at it. Lots of support for it (not like nexus, of course). My N7 had some touch issues that were improved (maybe fixed) with L.
Hello,
So I have been looking for a tablet for my son for Christmas. He is only 3 (4 in June) Of course I looked at the Nabi's and Amazon Fire Kids edition, but the price for the specs you get kind of deter me. I can not see purchasing a tablet in 2015 with 1 gb of ram and 8 gb of storage.
So I have been looking at the Nexus 7 (2013). I know there are apps / launchers you can get to give any Android Tablet a kid friendly UI / environment. So I'm not worried about that. With 16 gb storage it will be more than enough to set it up for my son. (I don't plan on putting movies on it, Netflix kid mode is plenty good for that) The quad core processor with 2gb of ram seems like it would be a good performer. A lot of reviews of the Nabi's and Fire Kids tablets mention buggy, freezing up, lagging. I am sure the 1 gb ram contributes to this. Here is what I am looking to get.
Nexus 7
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DV...ds=nexus+7&dpPl=1&dpID=418KVzHTenL&ref=plSrch
Case
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F9...C_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=Nexus+7+case&th=0
So, what do you think? This looks like the best Nexus 7 case for a 3 year old to me. Do you think this is a better idea then going with a subpar kids laptop? Also, I know Nabi can end up being a money pit, and they want you to pay for everything. Amazons comes with two year worry free warranty but to me it doesn't make up for it being a slow buggy tablet with crap resolution.
No idea about the case, looks plenty durable and suitable for rough housing though. As for the nexus, its an outstanding performer- still using mine now and don't want another tablet. It's way more capable than anything a youngster would want it for, handles games very well. I think it's even a bit of overkill for a kid.
The drawback is potential hardware problems- such as various screen touch issues. Asus took shortcuts on assembly. Hit or miss whether it would happen to you, but if it does you're kinda screwed. Some fixes are out there, and good luck trying to get asus or Google to take responsibility- make sure to get the warranty. For example mine goes totally unresponsive sometimes, i have to pop off the back and mess with it to make it work right again. Had it a couple years now and this just started in the past few months.
You could get lucky and never have a problem. If that's the case it's wonderful all around. To me, even with my problem, its far beyond worth the price tag.
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See this thread for more. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791743
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I started out with one...and was so impressed that I bought one for each member of my family.
Yes, we are a family of Nexus 7 2013 users. No one has ever had any issues with it. Put it in a reasonable protective case, get a wireless QI charger for it (saves wear and tear on the usb connector...a lesson I learned the hard way on my previous non-Nexus tablet) and your son should be good to go.
Just be careful...you may fall in love with it and decide to keep it for yourself!
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I started out with one...and was so impressed that I bought one for each member of my family.
Yes, we are a family of Nexus 7 2013 users. No one has ever had any issues with it. Put it in a reasonable protective case, get a wireless QI charger for it (saves wear and tear on the usb connector...a lesson I learned the hard way on my previous non-Nexus tablet) and your son should be good to go.
Just be careful...you may fall in love with it and decide to keep it for yourself!
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This is exactly what happened! lol. So I got it a few days ago. I got it all updated and everything seems to be great with it. I have had no issues at all. I really took a liking to it. The more I thought about, the more I did realize it was overkill for him. So I decided to keep it for myself. LOL. However, don't look at it as a selfish move. I really did not like any of the apps that turn it into a "kid" tablet. They didn't seem very user friendly, were buggy, and I just didn't like their layouts.
So, I ended up getting him a Nabi Dreamtab instead. Don't worry, he did alright. Specs:
Nabi Dreamtab HD8
8" 1920x1200 IPS Display
Nvidia Tegra 4 Processor
2GB RAM
16GB Storage
4500mah battery
Dual Front Facing Speakers
Built in Stylus
I think he is really going to like it! Not only does it have great specs, the built in stylus played a big part in my decision. The Nabi Art Studio looks pretty sweet with using the stylus.
I really like the Nexus 7 though. I have a brand new 64GB Cloud White Nexus 6 too. I feel it will help with the longevity of my phone. Now, when I am at home I will be on my Nexus 7. So my 6 will be my on the go device (obviously being its my phone) and my 7 will be my at home device. I also have a Nexus Player. LoL.
Just think, two months ago I never owned an Android device. I owned every iPhone from the 3-6 and never seen the need for a tablet. I sold my iPhone 6 / Apple TV and picked up a Nexus 6 / Nexus Player. I have had zero regrets and have not looked back since. I knew when I made the switch it would be for a Nexus, didn't think I would end up with 3. lol