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[Q] LG G Pad 8.3 Still Worth Getting?

As the title of the thread states.
Theres a sale on newegg right now to get the tab for 229.99. This seems like a pretty good deal but I was wondering what all of you think. Is this a good enough deal? Are there any issues which I should know of ahead of time?
Thanks.

I would wait to see if it goes down to $199. I thought it was $199 for awhile at newegg in the past.

Totally worth it! This tablet is a beautiful premium beast with Nexus like price!! It can go to $200, but $30 difference for this bargain is nothing! Go for it! Totally worth it unless you got more cash for better tablets! In any case, the G Pad 8.3 is much higher spec'd than most tablets in its price range or even more expensive tablets and the new G Pad are lower spec'd!! Accessories are a bit rare though!
Upgrade to KitKat using LG Tool on PC which is bug free compared to ota where some people faced some bugs!

Worth it! Just bought mine last week from Expansys-USA for $225.00

Unless you need ultra high resolution or a top-end processor (in which case look at the Samsung 8.4" Tab Pro or Tab S) and are willing to pay for it, the LG 8.3 is definitely still worth getting. Only slightly bigger than the Nexus 7 but with a significantly better screen. It'll play most of the most intense games (like Asphalt 8) just fine, movies play great, and it's ideal for reading eBooks or comics. LG knew what they were doing when they designed this tablet; it's as big as it can be yet still held comfortably with one hand.
At $229 it's a great value that can't be rivaled unless you need the freedom with ROMs and such that the Nexus 7 gives you.

Thanks guys. I suppose the last factor is how easy is it to root and ROM this tablet? I've been looking around and have found plenty of guides for the v510 but not so many for the v500.

i bought my g pad for 179 euros in europe !! I can say that was a super deal...That tablet ROCKS!Maybe the best for that money

TheDukeofErl said:
Thanks guys. I suppose the last factor is how easy is it to root and ROM this tablet? I've been looking around and have found plenty of guides for the v510 but not so many for the v500.
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Rooting with Towelroot apk takes only about 15s and is fully functional and you need to install a superuser apk from play store!
Installing a recovery is not that easy and towelroot is not the best rooting method if you want to install recovery and flash ROMs!
Stay on 4.2.2, root using normal rooting methods and flash your ROM!
The stock LG ROM is pretty useful compared to aosp roms as it has more functions! Happy with it!

Go and grab this pad. I think it will be Best Buy for long time - if you want/need Full HD screen and other goodies...

Absolutely... rootable easily, excellent size and resolution... and the GPE is on clearance at Expansys I'm considering getting another one.

Bill_windows said:
i bought my g pad for 179 euros in europe !! I can say that was a super deal...That tablet ROCKS!Maybe the best for that money
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Wher did you buy the lg g pad 8.3 in Europe? I'm planning to buy one

Pick one up! They are excellent, and much faster processor than present LG's out. In fact most all specs are better on the 8.3 inch (older model), than the new ones. My opinion: You can't go wrong!

I'm looking to buy one myself. I'd it possible to turn a vanilla G Pad into a GPe?

meijin3 said:
I'm looking to buy one myself. I'd it possible to turn a vanilla G Pad into a GPe?
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Unfortunately No...

galaxys said:
Unfortunately No...
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That is quite unfortunate. Thank you!

meijin3 said:
That is quite unfortunate. Thank you!
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But, there are roms for the 500 that will give you that experience, or close enough any how.

meijin3 said:
That is quite unfortunate. Thank you!
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Oddly I have a v510 GPE running lollipop and sleekmason's latest SleekAI kernel (it rocks) and I love it but would trade it for a v500 in a second because I am bored and want ROMs to flash. Had hopes awhile back for a CM12 for the v510 but it seems that was just a dream I had as it has not materialized.
Would be willing to sell mine for $199 if I could figure out how.

Just paid £160 in asda. none of the boxes had seals on so the cashier knocked me £19 off the sticker price. still had the screen protector on and all the accessories were shrink wrapped

How are these holding up a few months after this post was started? I just saw one listed locally on craigslist for $155 and thinking about getting it. I actually have around $300 to spend but haven't found any of the bigger tablets I want in that range, all the good stuff is still closer to $400. If I get this then I can spend the rest on a keyboard.
Which leads to the big question I have, how productive can you be with this? I've held the Samsung Tab S 8.4 and it felt bigger than I expected. The G Pad seems pretty equal in size. But has anyone tried to do extensive typing on it, like writing a college paper?

[Q] Nexus 7 (2013) Or LG G Pad 8.3 ???

Hi,
I am planning to purchase an Android tablet but scratching my head which model to go for, Nexus 7 2013 or LG G Pad 8.3 (non Google Play Edition). Could anyone provide some buying guidelines? Love the brush aluminium back plate of the G Pad and the screen size but crave for the stock android on Nexus. Also I prefer a better battery back up. Please help educate me. Many thanks!

Do you really think you will get the advise to buy the G-pad on THIS forum?
I looked at both but bought the Nexus, the screen is better, the size suits me perfectly but most of all you can do so much more to it because of it being a nexus device!

Nexus 7. Lots of support.

cypherlwind said:
Hi,
I am planning to purchase an Android tablet but scratching my head which model to go for, Nexus 7 2013 or LG G Pad 8.3 (non Google Play Edition). Could anyone provide some buying guidelines? Love the brush aluminium back plate of the G Pad and the screen size but crave for the stock android on Nexus. Also I prefer a better battery back up. Please help educate me. Many thanks!
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Depends on what you want to do with your tab. I have both, and I tend to use the Nexus 7 a bit more only because it's easier to carry around. I am not sure about its screen being better than the Gpad. For movies I prefer the Gpad.
I'm certain you've done some research on the specs of both. But if I were you, I'd go for the LG since (1) it has a bigger screen; (2) it has less hardware glitches; (3) you might get it for less because it's lesser known (but not necessarily inferior specs-wise). Unless you're a flash-freak, that is. I just saw lollipop support for the LG the other day.

graphdarnell said:
Depends on what you want to do with your tab. I have both, and I tend to use the Nexus 7 a bit more only because it's easier to carry around. I am not sure about its screen being better than the Gpad. For movies I prefer the Gpad.
I'm certain you've done some research on the specs of both. But if I were you, I'd go for the LG since (1) it has a bigger screen; (2) it has less hardware glitches; (3) you might get it for less because it's lesser known (but not necessarily inferior specs-wise). Unless you're a flash-freak, that is. I just saw lollipop support for the LG the other day.
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Hi graphdarnell,
Actually battery life is my main concern, I seek good battery backup, I would say I use it mainly for some internet surfing, play some not so graphical intensive games such as Clash Of Clans and Angry Birds, check mails, Youtube and basically that's all. I don't watch movies on a tab. Well actually I was thinking about Nexus 7 (2013) because of the new stock Lollipop OS. Will G pad getting it as well or only the Google Play Edition? The hardware glitches you mentioned, what are those? Thanks mate for your reply and I hope you could guide me on my purchase. Cheerz~!

cypherlwind said:
Hi graphdarnell,
Actually battery life is my main concern, I seek good battery backup, I would say I use it mainly for some internet surfing, play some not so graphical intensive games such as Clash Of Clans and Angry Birds, check mails, Youtube and basically that's all. I don't watch movies on a tab. Well actually I was thinking about Nexus 7 (2013) because of the new stock Lollipop OS. Will G pad getting it as well or only the Google Play Edition? The hardware glitches you mentioned, what are those? Thanks mate for your reply and I hope you could guide me on my purchase. Cheerz~!
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Yes. I do have to say that battery life on the Nexus 7 is slightly better, but given what you said you'd do with the tab, I don't know if that should be of utmost concern. The most intractable problem with the Nexus 7 is the touchscreen, in my opinion. So many have it, and there's no absolute cure. Once you have it, it won't go away. The worst of it is that it's intermittent. Most noticeably so as the battery goes down towards the 25% limit.
Some devs are working on Lollipop for the Gpad. Hopefully, it will be stable enough for daily use soon. Right now, it's at Beta stage. Hope this helps, and happy Thanksgiving if you celebrate it.

graphdarnell said:
Yes. I do have to say that battery life on the Nexus 7 is slightly better, but given what you said you'd do with the tab, I don't know if that should be of utmost concern. The most intractable problem with the Nexus 7 is the touchscreen, in my opinion. So many have it, and there's no absolute cure. Once you have it, it won't go away. The worst of it is that it's intermittent. Most noticeably so as the battery goes down towards the 25% limit.
Some devs are working on Lollipop for the Gpad. Hopefully, it will be stable enough for daily use soon. Right now, it's at Beta stage. Hope this helps, and happy Thanksgiving if you celebrate it.
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Hi,
Does the touch screen issue apply to all Nexus 7 units? Or just some batches? In this case I think it is better to get the G pad instead... what a let down from Asus ... sob sob ...

I kept my N7 after returning G-Pad-not enough brightness for me. If I were looking for an 8in tab today, the current Bestbuy price of $199. for the Samsung Galaxy tabpro 8.4 would have me looking at it. Lots of support for it (not like nexus, of course). My N7 had some touch issues that were improved (maybe fixed) with L.

batch with no problems?

i was considering buying this tablet and was wondering if there is a list somewhere i can see that has no touchscreen or speaker problems

All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.

Gorgtech said:
All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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was considering this over the galaxy tab pro/s 8.4 because i like the look of n7 more and its less expensive but i cant make up my mind about the problems it has. the first gen also had problems with the display but that was present in early batches

The Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) is still a nice device though. If you want fast updates and love to thinker around, you might still like it. Samsung offers a better build quality though but the software updates are a mess. I don´t think that I will ever touch a Samsung device again
If you don´t care about the latest Android updates, you might also consider other brands

I haven't had any problems with mine.

Gorgtech said:
All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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Not all are faulty, mine is absolutely flawless. No dead pixels, no wonky touchscreen, no reboots, nothing. Of course I had to exchange it 4 times to get a flawless one but that's beside the point.

i really dont care about the fast updates, i care much about the design. samsung tablets all look the same and the 8.4 tab s which i wanted to buy looks like a big damn phone. i like the minimalistic design with no logo or buttons on the front. i also considered the g tab 8.3 but dont really want an lg tablet. i might even consider the nexus 9 but even that has problems and is a bit expensive. google should pay more attention to their flagship products. my first generation nexus 7 worked flawlesly for 2 years and was in perfect condition but simply died one day all of a sudden and i swore i wouldnt buy another asus tablet again but there is simply no other good looking budget tablet out there.

Have you ever considered the Nvidia Shield tablet?
I currently have the Nexus 7 LTE for a little over a year. I still love the tablet, but the touchscreen issues have become unbearable. The Shield looks like a promising alternative.
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auleu said:
i really dont care about the fast updates, i care much about the design. samsung tablets all look the same and the 8.4 tab s which i wanted to buy looks like a big damn phone. i like the minimalistic design with no logo or buttons on the front. i also considered the g tab 8.3 but dont really want an lg tablet. i might even consider the nexus 9 but even that has problems and is a bit expensive. google should pay more attention to their flagship products. my first generation nexus 7 worked flawlesly for 2 years and was in perfect condition but simply died one day all of a sudden and i swore i wouldnt buy another asus tablet again but there is simply no other good looking budget tablet out there.
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Nvidia Shield tablet or Dell Venue 8 7000. Both amazing tablets, but they serve different purposes. If it's gaming you're into then get the Shield. If you just want an awesome tablet for browsing etc., then go for the Dell.

_MetalHead_ said:
Nvidia Shield tablet or Dell Venue 8 7000. Both amazing tablets, but they serve different purposes. If it's gaming you're into then get the Shield. If you just want an awesome tablet for browsing etc., then go for the Dell.
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shield tablet is expensive here, and even that has some serious problems. i think i will go with the g pad 8.3 in black version. in every review i saw it was performing better than the nexus 7, has a larger display like i wanted and comes with no touchscreen or speaker problems, then ill flash an aosp rom on it . the n7 and g pad have the same price and i think its a good replacement till i get the refresh n9.

I got my N7 2013 off Groupon this month and I wasn't sure what I'd wind up with.. Zero problems, no dead/stuck pixels, no problem with touch, haven't noticed any sound issues, etc.

auleu said:
shield tablet is expensive here, and even that has some serious problems. i think i will go with the g pad 8.3 in black version. in every review i saw it was performing better than the nexus 7, has a larger display like i wanted and comes with no touchscreen or speaker problems, then ill flash an aosp rom on it . the n7 and g pad have the same price and i think its a good replacement till i get the refresh n9.
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I have a thing against all LG products, I would personally much rather have the Dell Venue 8 7000. How much is the Dell compared to the Gpad where you live? Have you looked into the Dell yet? It's probably the coolest tablet I have ever seen.

I still insist that all Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty and the Touchscreen is buggy. You might not notice the error because most the time you won´t use 3 fingers or more on it. But trust me on this, once you check the screen with test tools and try to use > 3 fingers....it will go apesh*t.
Still the Touchscreen can be usable but some guys will notice "stuck letters" or "ghost touches" from time to time. These errors can be fixed though, up to a point where the touchscreen will be reliable with 5 fingers on it.
The grounding issue and audio bug is also present on some devices, due to a faulty PCB. Maybe Asus might have fixed these errors but I cannot check this out since my batch is one of the first ever released. I fixed the errors myself and never ever had any trouble again. But still this is a reason for me to avoid another Asus device.
You don´t buy a new car and need to repair it first, in order to drive it..

Gorgtech said:
I still insist that all Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty and the Touchscreen is buggy. You might not notice the error because most the time you won´t use 3 fingers or more on it. But trust me on this, once you check the screen with test tools and try to use > 3 fingers....it will go apesh*t.
Still the Touchscreen can be usable but some guys will notice "stuck letters" or "ghost touches" from time to time. These errors can be fixed though, up to a point where the touchscreen will be reliable with 5 fingers on it.
The grounding issue and audio bug is also present on some devices, due to a faulty PCB. Maybe Asus might have fixed these errors but I cannot check this out since my batch is one of the first ever released. I fixed the errors myself and never ever had any trouble again. But still this is a reason for me to avoid another Asus device.
You don´t buy a new car and need to repair it first, in order to drive it..
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Insist all you want but I assure you mine is fine. I have had Multitiouch visualizer and one other test app installed since the day I got it and have tried numerous times to replicate the issues that people are having and have been unable to. I've tested with 2 all the way to 10 fingers- tracking is fine, all touches register, no ghost touches... perfect. My touchscreen works the way every touchscreen should. I promise you, my tablet is flawless.

Just had 8 fingers on my touchscreen with no issues what so ever. Had no problems with dead pixels or the speakers either. :highfive:
On the subject of the G pad, I had one for 24 hours which turned out to be faulty, (USB port.) In those 24 hours, I was very pleased with the speed, build quality and screen. I didnt like the bloat and some stupid decisions like the lack of a recents button. I've now got rid of my Nexus 5 for the LG G2. It has all bloat issues of the G pad but you can deal with them.
To sum up, I'd go with the G pad 8.3 if the price was the same.

If you can find GPE edition, that would be like nexus but on 8".[emoji3]

Masteryates said:
Just had 8 fingers on my touchscreen with no issues what so ever. Had no problems with dead pixels or the speakers either. :highfive:
On the subject of the G pad, I had one for 24 hours which turned out to be faulty, (USB port.) In those 24 hours, I was very pleased with the speed, build quality and screen. I didnt like the bloat and some stupid decisions like the lack of a recents button. I've now got rid of my Nexus 5 for the LG G2. It has all bloat issues of the G pad but you can deal with them.
To sum up, I'd go with the G pad 8.3 if the price was the same.
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Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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If you cannot find a Nexus 5, it might be worth it

noahvt said:
Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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If you can sell the Nexus 5 and then use that Money for the g2 outright, it's Deffo an upgrade. You will need to root though to get it how you want it. Battery life is out of this world.

noahvt said:
Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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Get a Moto X, it blows the G2 out of the water and it's about to go on sale. Or if you can wait a month and can afford it then get that Saygus V2. That thing is like a wet dream. I cant stand anything LG, the N5 is the sole exception.

[Q] How much is the best price?

Hi guys i'm from italy and i'm trying to buy a tablet. Use is only university and some videos. I found this second hand (still 1 year warrancy, not really used) lg g pad 8.3 at 150€ (ie 170$, 110£ for those of you who aren't from europe )
First question is: is it an affordable price? Only wifi version
Then, i would ask you about the battery life, and if it is still good (no lagging, fluid) through everyday use. I have a nexus 5 which i consider very responsive and very good, is it comparable? And what about a comparison with the ipad mini one (in italy has the same average price of 150€ for a second hand) ? It is older but it is still a good device. Do you think lg g pad would win 10-0?
Thanks guys!

150€ is quite a good price in Italy where most tech things seem to be more expensive than normal! Against iPad mini it wins hands down except maybe screen brightness.
Nexus 5 has s800 and Adreno 330 while this has s600 and adreno 320. It's very fluid, but there's some lag here and there sometimes when playing heavy games. And it has micro sd slot, so it's great to store movies! It also has a premium build quality.
Well I bought my G pad twice the price 300€ new about 1 year ago! Go for it

Fullmetal Jun said:
150€ is quite a good price in Italy where most tech things seem to be more expensive than normal! Against iPad mini it wins hands down except maybe screen brightness.
Nexus 5 has s800 and Adreno 330 while this has s600 and adreno 320. It's very fluid, but there's some lag here and there sometimes when playing heavy games. And it has micro sd slot, so it's great to store movies! It also has a premium build quality.
Well I bought my G pad twice the price 300€ new about 1 year ago! Go for it
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thanks a lot mate, you convinced me. Btw does it have official lollipop or it is still at 4.4?
and what about custom roms? I'm used to my N5 so i have a large option does the gpad increases a lot his performances with custom roms?

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thanks a lot mate, you convinced me. Btw does it have official lollipop or it is still at 4.4?
and what about custom roms? I'm used to my N5 so i have a large option does the gpad increases a lot his performances with custom roms?
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Only Korea and some Asian countries have lollipop for now! Verizon version as well. The rest are still waiting for an ota. The Korean version which is the same as international version can be flashed through pc via a custom lg flash tool 2014, thread in general section! Check devpt section for other custom roms which u may want to use. There's only minor improvements in custom roms. I prefer lg rom since my phone has cm12 just to not feel bored about vanilla Android.
Most of us here are using the Korean lollipop rom since it was available back in May or else you'll have to keep waiting for an ota to appear.

Excellent price for one. I would buy in a heartbeat at that price.

yes i did, btw i'm very happy about it. Waiting for the lollipop ota

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yes i did, btw i'm very happy about it. Waiting for the lollipop ota
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Welcome to the club!
Cheers!

I bought mine few days ago for 250$, I know it is high price nowadays, but it was sold in my country, new straight from shop I don't like waiting a lot for electronic things.
And you know what? I am sooo happy that I did buy it, haven't touched my laptop since downloaded all the stuff for g pad (lollipop etc.)?
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Is recommendable buy the N7 2013 now?

Hi everyone
I know that forums have many forums about this but i want advices more specific.
Well, i want to buy a Nexus 7 2013 tablet because i consider that has a good specs for the price (less than $200) (could be my first Nexus device), searching i founded the posibility to buy one not used on eBay (new, apparently).
I read and investigate more, and i founded two big questions.
1. I know that google stopped the suport (stuck on 5.1.1), also i found some Marshmallow ROMs here, works well and stable? is complicated to make all the process (bootloader, recovery, root, flashing)?
2. A few months ago i look in the web about a "Sudden Death" that occurs in lollipop, does that solution? i don´t have official support in my country for repairs, therefore i think is a big risk for me. Installing a custom Marshmallow ROMs avoid the problem?
Thanks for reading
Grettings

R32SIX said:
Hi everyone
I know that forums have many forums about this but i want advices more specific.
Well, i want to buy a Nexus 7 2013 tablet because i consider that has a good specs for the price (less than $200) (could be my first Nexus device), searching i founded the posibility to buy one not used on eBay (new, apparently).
I read and investigate more, and i founded two big questions.
1. I know that google stopped the suport (stuck on 5.1.1), also i found some Marshmallow ROMs here, works well and stable? is complicated to make all the process (bootloader, recovery, root, flashing)?
2. A few months ago i look in the web about a "Sudden Death" that occurs in lollipop, does that solution? i don´t have official support in my country for repairs, therefore i think is a big risk for me. Installing a custom Marshmallow ROMs avoid the problem?
Thanks for reading
Grettings
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You're mistaken. Google officially updated the N7 2013 and LTE model to Marshmallow.
See for yourself.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
These days, depending on condition, you can find a Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi for about $100-130 US. I personally wouldn't speed more than a $100 for a used Nexus 7 2013.
Bootloader unlocking, rooting, and flashing roms is a pretty simple thing to do on a Nexus device. If you have trouble, you can always read the many guides provided on these forums.

My N7 2013 has good days and bad days. Depending on the rom/kernel you use, it can still be a great tablet. The screen is still fantastic too. But $200 is too much for sure.

I would say yes for sure. Just make sure you buy a good one. There's a lot of faulty Nexus 7 out there.

$200 is too much

I'd recommend the Nvidia Shield Tablet K1 at this point. I just finally got mine recently and the extra speed and battery life are well worth it. And it is only $200, and with Nvidia's frequent updates, its nearly a nexus.

Ditto about the price. I bought mine used with case & charger for $90.00.

My N7-2013 got official OTA 6.0 update and went into bootloop. Then I installed CM ROM and never looked back.

Maverick-DBZ- said:
You're mistaken. Google officially updated the N7 2013 and LTE model to Marshmallow.
See for yourself.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
These days, depending on condition, you can find a Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi for about $100-130 US. I personally wouldn't speed more than a $100 for a used Nexus 7 2013.
Bootloader unlocking, rooting, and flashing roms is a pretty simple thing to do on a Nexus device. If you have trouble, you can always read the many guides provided on these forums.
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Thanks for fix me, in fact, for less $150 i can found it

gman88667733 said:
My N7 2013 has good days and bad days. Depending on the rom/kernel you use, it can still be a great tablet. The screen is still fantastic too. But $200 is too much for sure.
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How long you got? Does the battery talk much of their autonomy?

Thmstec said:
I'd recommend the Nvidia Shield Tablet K1 at this point. I just finally got mine recently and the extra speed and battery life are well worth it. And it is only $200, and with Nvidia's frequent updates, its nearly a nexus.
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I do not trust much in Nvidia, after having a Sony with Tegra 2 i would not use portable devices with chipsets Nvidia again

I had a N7 2013 when it was released , then I sold it for an iPad. Bad choice . Went back to N7 and still loving it . Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 2013 are by far the best devices created . I got it for $105 , and it was in 10/10 mint condition. GO FOR IT

I think it still is the best 7 inch tablet out there. It has an excellent screen. I use it for reading, for browing, for watching videos and it is perfect. Sometimes i never use my desktop the whole day. Marshmallow update is pretty good but propably the last major update. But surely xda developers will give it the N version of Android. I have mine with a magnetic case which is very convenient. And also there are some good custom roms if you dont want to stay to the official like PureNexus which is extremely good, cm, omni and others.