Can somebody please explain to me HTC ditched the One X from any further updates from jelly bean and blaming Nvidia's Tegra 3 for it while a tablet, their very own, Nexus 7 which also has a Tegra 3 (lower clocked 1.2ghz) and 1gb quite the same amount of ram got updated to Kitkat and is also getting an update to Lollipop, please explain this sorcery.
That's simple. The tegra chip inside HOX is different. Beside Google mostly has managed to force nvidia to get further with development. I think at this moment HTC has learned from that and since they haven't implemented nvidia's anymore
How much different? If they can force it to run lollipop, they should implement it for HOX as well. After all, Cyanogenmod will be updated to lollipop for HOX, which will work like a fluid as always so why can't htc do the same? It's not like sense is really really heavy, it's only a skin and I'm sure they could have worked it out since the sense 6 blinkfeed launcher works well already on HOX
I want lollipop in my HTC one x
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Hello, I am a Sensation XL user and I have the opportunity to switch to a GNex(trade). The reason I would switch to Nexus is the SA HD screen, dual core a9cortex, better gpu, really good looking and working OS. I am currently worried about the lifespan of my SXL since it packs a single core snapdragon and a poor WVGA resolution.
The reason I wouldn't switch is a few sense goodies such as swiping to text, smartdialing, facebook integration, editing media etc. along with losing my iBeats earphones and a really good looking design.
I kept telling myself I do not want the trade but the small resolution, ugly looking fonts and icons and periodical Sense lag keeps haunting me. I don't like rooting, I like having things as stock as possible.
Please help me decide I'm very unsure what to do!
people here are trying to port Sense 4.0 on the Nexus and you're trying to get rid of it?
anyway, you should try the different Sensation 4.0.3 ROMs out there before giving up on it.
if you like plain ICS, you can have it on the Sensation as well...both phones are good. If you like Sense, wait until HTC One series comes out and sell your SXL then.
either way, you can't avoid rooting...you can install the ARHD or InsertCoin's ROMs which are as stock as possible on HTC but definately faster...no Sense lag.
you still have a lot to explore on your phone
LE: nevermind, the ROMs i mentioned above are for Sensation, not S XL
but i think HTC released official ICS for you?
zerozoneice said:
people here are trying to port Sense 4.0 on the Nexus and you're trying to get rid of it?
anyway, you should try the different Sensation 4.0.3 ROMs out there before giving up on it.
if you like plain ICS, you can have it on the Sensation as well...both phones are good. If you like Sense, wait until HTC One series comes out and sell your SXL then.
either way, you can't avoid rooting...you can install the ARHD or InsertCoin's ROMs which are as stock as possible on HTC but definately faster...no Sense lag.
you still have a lot to explore on your phone
LE: nevermind, the ROMs i mentioned above are for Sensation, not S XL
but i think HTC released official ICS for you?
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I'm not really that good with the whole root/flash s-off stuff. Even if I dug in this new universe I know there are plenty of problems since there isn't anything official about these homebrew roms. I like my phone but I'm not pleased with the low res and choppy user interface. Maybe Nexus doesn't have the problems htc has with the sense ui (even though my XL has sense 3.5 which should be theoretically faster). My next phone will not be an htc since i've had only htcs since 2010 and am fed up with the looks of it.
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I'm not really that good with the whole root/flash s-off stuff. Even if I dug in this new universe I know there are plenty of problems since there isn't anything official about these homebrew roms. I like my phone but I'm not pleased with the low res and choppy user interface. Maybe Nexus doesn't have the problems htc has with the sense ui (even though my XL has sense 3.5 which should be theoretically faster). My next phone will not be an htc since i've had only htcs since 2010 and am fed up with the looks of it.
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Then I would go with the galaxy nexus if I were you. It basically has everything you are looking for. And if you decide to learn to root/unlock boot loaders and what not, the nexus is the easiest to learn with (my opinion) . I think if you go with the galaxy nexus , its a win-win. Good luck
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We know that jb will come officially for the one x, but what about one v? Some say that the processor isnt good enough for jb, while some say that the one series is the flagship series of htc and they cant leave one v out! So what do you say? Lets have a good discussion!
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We know that jb will come officially for the one x, but what about one v? Some say that the processor isnt good enough for jb, while some say that the one series is the flagship series of htc and they cant leave one v out! So what do you say? Lets have a good discussion!
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We cannot know for sure right now. If HTC will not provide us a JB build, probably will be ported from our brothers, Saga, even One S..
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We cannot know for sure right now. If HTC will not provide us a JB build, probably will be ported from our brothers, Saga, even One S..
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I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
YES, One V *WILL* get JellyBean
Reasons:
As Ken Shi_Kun said,
I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
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JellyBean isn't something like Android 5 or 6. It's just 4.1.
Also, many people have bought One V as it's really cheaper than One X and One S and has the same IceCreamSandwich (just the HTC Sense 4.0 UI is a lite version). People like One V more than One X and One S (yes I've seen such people too!) as it can actually be called a "phone" which fits it the pocket and is easy to use. One S and One X have bigger screen size which is obviously little difficult to handle and the One S and One X are really costly (it's not worth buying just a "mobile phone" for this price). One V has the chin too! My friend specially bought One V for chin!
When anyone would like to buy an HTC phone and sees the One Series, probably the first choice be One X but the person will buy One V for sure if he is a budget-like person (who doesn't buy things more than his budget).
Moreover, there aren't many things for HTC to do for getting JellyBean for One V. It's just 4.1!
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
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Totally wrong!
One V is not "flagship" at all. You cannot call "flagship" a phone that has 512 mb ram and a cpu that is 2 years old. This phone will PROBABLY NOT get Jelly Bean as an official rom, but then again, only time can tell.
AND JELLY BEAN IS NOT A PATCH FOR ICS!
If this is called 4.1 it doesn't mean this is a patch! Have you read what Jelly bean brings to Android OS? Changes are internally, not externally as in graphics and widgets. You all are expecting new theme instead of new code implemented and things rewriten just to make Android moving alot faster.
Have you ever heard of project BUTTER? This is the new stuff implemented in Jelly Bean. What this does? Well on short, GPU + CPU = UI RENDERING (as in Sense Rendering). Right now, ALL of Android OS'es are working like this CPU = UI RENDERING.
So Project Butter will make Android working at 60 fps, by activating GPU alongside CPU to make the UI rendering and thus not stressing so much the CPU that will have time and resources to do other stuff (such as running apps in background better etc.)
The One series is a premium line including the V. The mid-low line HTCs this year are called Desire. This is close to what Ken-Shi-Kun is saying. As the device was just released in April 2012 and HTC is marketing it as premuim (regardless of the 1 core CPU), it has lots of development life left.
Also, Jelly Bean shares critical hardware-side components such as drivers with ICS. This greatly reduces headache for the developers. For now, all of us are speculating.
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I noticed in your signature line that you want people to be polite. Great advice.
The One series is a premium line including the V. The mid-low line HTCs this year are called Desire. This is close to what Paresh is saying. On the other hand, the One V is not two years old as you say. It was released in April 2012. It has lots of development life left.
Also, Jelly Bean shares critical hardware-side components such as drivers with ICS. This greatly reduces headache for the developers. For now, all of us are speculating so there is no need to be harsh.
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Read again. I said that ONE V has a cpu that is 2 years old right now. Not the device! You though that I have the phone and i was thinking that it was released 2 years ago? And I am polite, I'm just explaining things. Or what, now if you explain something, you are called impolite or aggresive?
Get your act together dude!
I corrected my post above.
Peartfan40, you are right (below). My apologies to you, 1ceb0x and the community for my unwarranted bickering.
but what about the gpu of one v? Does it (or rather, will it) be able to handle 60fps?
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Read again. I said that ONE V has a cpu that is 2 years old right now. Not the device! You though that I have the phone and i was thinking that it was released 2 years ago? And I am polite, I'm just explaining things. Or what, now if you explain something, you are called impolite or aggresive?
Get your act together dude!
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Notice that I correct my post because I missed what you said before I read yours. Again, you should heed your own words.
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Are we done here? Everything good now? No more bickering, ja?
Thank you.
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Look at what Android central has to say to this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-or-tablet-get-jelly-bean-and-when :good:
that news is pure speculation, is like i'm saying to you that One V will not get JB, will get the android that will be built in 2 years from now.... if that story had something official, it would be great, but it doesn't
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that news is pure speculation, is like i'm saying to you that One V will not get JB, will get the android that will be built in 2 years from now.... if that story had something official, it would be great, but it doesn't
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No, but Android central has the benefit of experience dude, and the gpu of one v can run 60 fps...Why dont you think it'll not get Jb update??
Even if htc does decide to give jelly bean to our devices, it's going to be bloated with so much crapware(read:sense) that I'm sure the effects of project butter will not be seen.
I think we're better off waiting for this device to get more development and maybe cm10 will come for it.
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Even if htc does decide to give jelly bean to our devices, it's going to be bloated with so much crapware(read:sense) that I'm sure the effects of project butter will not be seen.
I think we're better off waiting for this device to get more development and maybe cm10 will come for it.
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Project Butter's REALLY cool...I dont think sense (read by you as crapware) will cause lag, and suppose it does, we can always flash our custom roms...Why not give it a try??
it is said that JB is not SO much different from ICS and it will be quite easy to upgrade ICS-running devices to JB. It wont take long as trasnfer from GB to ICS. Plus HTC tries to upgrade most of its devices releases in last 2 years, so I guess maybe it will take longer for One V to get JB than S or X but eventually it will.
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it is said that JB is not SO much different from ICS and it will be quite easy to upgrade ICS-running devices to JB. It wont take long as trasnfer from GB to ICS. Plus HTC tries to upgrade most of its devices releases in last 2 years, so I guess maybe it will take longer for One V to get JB than S or X but eventually it will.
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no! JB is DIFFERENT from ICS. TOTALLY!
user interface remained the same, yes! but the changes are internally, on how the UI is rendered. basically the transitions and overall speed will get increased 100%!
Also, HTC is going to use its own launcher
Those new expanding notifications and the resizable widgets will most probably get disposed, or worse, "sensed".
Good read on what's new in project butter:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
guys, we WILL get jellybean...probably slightly watered down to what the other ONE series devices will get, but we will get it...all depends on HTC and your Network....here's an example... my girlfriend has the Xperia ARC and Sony released ICS for it officially back in april\may her network provider STILL hasn't released it for her phone
Hi,
I ask here for your help because I am planning to buy a new phone in the near future, and I am currently deciding between the One S with Snapdragon S4 and the One X with Tegra 3.
I would be very, very grateful if someone could tell me which one is better from the perspective of custom ROM development. Which one has more stable and less buggy CyanogenMod or similar AOSP-based ROMs? I've been lurking here in the One S and One X sections for some time and I can see that neither of those two phones is bugless, but I don't know how severe these problems are, if it is a dealbreaker or you can live with it. Also I get the feeling that the Tegra 3 is lacking in terms of development support and Qualcomm devices are better suited for future development. Is that so or am I wrong?
Another thing which I consider is the display quality, although it is not the main one. I know that the One X has a denser screen with better color reproduction than the One S, due to being an LCD panel, but the blacks are not as deep as the AMOLED on the One S. Is there a big difference? Do the blacks shine too much at night? It would be very cool if someone could post a good photo of the One X displaying a black screen at night.
Just one more question, how does the picture quality from the Sense camera compare to picture quality from CyanogenMod? I know Sense takes better pictures because it is optimized for the hardware, but is it a big difference?
Thank you really much for your answers, I aprecciate your help.
PS.: I posted a similar question here in the One S forum, if you want to take a look.
This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4.
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So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.
frantisek.nesveda said:
This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.
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The nexus 7 has the T30L while the OneX/X+ use AP33/37. Nvidia still provides support for T30L but not for AP3x.
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I think that if the nexus 5 could get a sense 6 port from the htc one (m8) then even our hox can get the same but i havent heard of any development in this regard .It would be great if our talented Devs could port it cause i really liked the UI and im sure many will agree with me.I know it is not an easy task but the Devs are very much capable of accomplishing this task.Moreover we dont have a sense rom running beyond 4.2.Let me know what u think and if its possible.(some tegra issue exists i guess)
Like every other thread opened for this...it's not going to happen. Sense 6 will not see the daylight on the hox !
And this topic has been covered numerous times already, as a search would have pointed you to it !
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I think that if the nexus 5 could get a sense 6 port from the htc one (m8) then even our hox can get the same but i havent heard of any development in this regard .It would be great if our talented Devs could port it cause i really liked the UI and im sure many will agree with me.I know it is not an easy task but the Devs are very much capable of accomplishing this task.Moreover we dont have a sense rom running beyond 4.2.Let me know what u think and if its possible.(some tegra issue exists i guess)
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Where are you taking this logic from?Nexus 5 is Qualcomm device and has support for kitkat, on other hand ONE X is tegra device and was abandoned by both Tegra and HTC.
So in short it will never ever happen, closes you can get to sense 6 is by flashing ViperX 4.1.0 which has some sense 6 parts.
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Where are you taking this logic from?Nexus 5 is Qualcomm device and has support for kitkat, on other hand ONE X is tegra device and was abandoned by both Tegra and HTC.
So in short it will never ever happen, closes you can get to sense 6 is by flashing ViperX 4.1.0 which has some sense 6 parts.
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True and it rocks! <3
The galaxy nexus has TI omap processor and still runs kit kat, everything is possible
You don't understand......it's not possible due to the tegra !
Giorgos zografos said:
The galaxy nexus has TI omap processor and still runs kit kat, everything is possible
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And HOX is running AOSP kitkat, whats your point?Does Galaxy nexus runs full sense 6 port?
ViperX 4.1.0 is your best bet if you can download it
I sure as hell can't
Manchue said:
ViperX 4.1.0 is your best bet if you can download it
I sure as hell can't
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Try this?
https://yadi.sk/d/1_qCC5z8RvVkv
Thanks goes to @meat_hooligan for this download link!
Anyone have any insiders on something without Sense 7 on the M9??
I'll be frank. I LOVED my M8. Best Android phone I've owned aside from its shortcomings, namely the camera. Right before I dumped Verizon and along with the M8 I had a pure stock 5.0.2 Android Rom and thought I was in love. I recently purchased a M9 Developer edition straight from HTC with the hopes that they would release whatever it is (source code, maybe?) to be able to build a pure edition of AOSP without Sense.
It took me a month to decide between the Nexus 6 (too big too small of storage), S6 (exynos in house SoC and small battery), Moto X 2nd gen (bad camera), HTC M9 (overheating issues), the 1+1 (too small of storage) and the Saygus (Still isn't out yet!?) All of them had some stupid catch. I knew my M8 got hot at times but wasn't a big deal so I went with the M9. Mine now has S-OFF with the 1.40 firmware on the venom rom, I flip between a T-mo and Cricket SIM depending on coverage because I travel - A LOT. Every week I'm somewhere else. Texas, Montana, Philly, Chicago.. this week I'm in Denver. Next week I'm in Texas.. following.. Tennessee.. so I need the large storage for my media (music, movies, etc). That being said, one of the BIGGEST things I need on my phone is Viper4Android.. which requires very little, but at the time I decided to purchase a phone, it didn't support the Exynos processor, only the qualcomm. Now I see that's changed already. I think my problems would be solved if I could have some way purchased a S6, bought a Mophie to extend battery and rooted with viper. Buuuuuuut, the audio power out (mW) is so low, I'd have to go back to using my external FiiO E6 headphone amp with my Westone 4 IEM's. But I digress. (Sorry)
Anyway, I'm hoping something happens soon or I don't know what I'm going to do. All the experimentation with ROM's loaded with Sense are cool and all.. the development work in the venom rom is absolutely amazing, but I don't care much for tweaking size, color, menus, etc. I truly wish we could get a 100% stock lollipop rom for this phone.
If anyone has read through this post, I'm sorry it's so long winded, but if there's anyone out there that has good headphones or IEM's ($500 or more) and you use Android, can you share your setup and tell me if I'm just using that as an excuse to stay with the M9??
Thanks guys!
I'm looking forward to AOSP (or AOSP-based, ie CyanogenMod) myself. There's an active thread discussing progress on building CyanogenMod for the M9, but it's pretty broken yet.
Like you, I'm ready! But in addition to being patient, it would probably help to remember that this phone was released just under two months ago. Throw in the fairly revolutionary 64-bit processor and it's reasonable to guess that we're a bit away from an AOSP ROM.
On the optimistic side - Google has released Android for it's 64-bit based Nexus 9, so maybe a build for the M9 isn't too far away! Here's hoping.
I am for it, but historically CM/aosp etc on new devices is a mess for at least 5-6 months POST release. I'm talking 5-6 months minimum after they get all the hardware working. I would prefer it over sense7 but not until all the wakelock and battery issues are solved.
Right now you can flash viper, chose desensed options and use a launcher like nova (and dont forget to get viperdark theme)