We know that jb will come officially for the one x, but what about one v? Some say that the processor isnt good enough for jb, while some say that the one series is the flagship series of htc and they cant leave one v out! So what do you say? Lets have a good discussion!
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We know that jb will come officially for the one x, but what about one v? Some say that the processor isnt good enough for jb, while some say that the one series is the flagship series of htc and they cant leave one v out! So what do you say? Lets have a good discussion!
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We cannot know for sure right now. If HTC will not provide us a JB build, probably will be ported from our brothers, Saga, even One S..
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We cannot know for sure right now. If HTC will not provide us a JB build, probably will be ported from our brothers, Saga, even One S..
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I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
YES, One V *WILL* get JellyBean
Reasons:
As Ken Shi_Kun said,
I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
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JellyBean isn't something like Android 5 or 6. It's just 4.1.
Also, many people have bought One V as it's really cheaper than One X and One S and has the same IceCreamSandwich (just the HTC Sense 4.0 UI is a lite version). People like One V more than One X and One S (yes I've seen such people too!) as it can actually be called a "phone" which fits it the pocket and is easy to use. One S and One X have bigger screen size which is obviously little difficult to handle and the One S and One X are really costly (it's not worth buying just a "mobile phone" for this price). One V has the chin too! My friend specially bought One V for chin!
When anyone would like to buy an HTC phone and sees the One Series, probably the first choice be One X but the person will buy One V for sure if he is a budget-like person (who doesn't buy things more than his budget).
Moreover, there aren't many things for HTC to do for getting JellyBean for One V. It's just 4.1!
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
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Totally wrong!
One V is not "flagship" at all. You cannot call "flagship" a phone that has 512 mb ram and a cpu that is 2 years old. This phone will PROBABLY NOT get Jelly Bean as an official rom, but then again, only time can tell.
AND JELLY BEAN IS NOT A PATCH FOR ICS!
If this is called 4.1 it doesn't mean this is a patch! Have you read what Jelly bean brings to Android OS? Changes are internally, not externally as in graphics and widgets. You all are expecting new theme instead of new code implemented and things rewriten just to make Android moving alot faster.
Have you ever heard of project BUTTER? This is the new stuff implemented in Jelly Bean. What this does? Well on short, GPU + CPU = UI RENDERING (as in Sense Rendering). Right now, ALL of Android OS'es are working like this CPU = UI RENDERING.
So Project Butter will make Android working at 60 fps, by activating GPU alongside CPU to make the UI rendering and thus not stressing so much the CPU that will have time and resources to do other stuff (such as running apps in background better etc.)
The One series is a premium line including the V. The mid-low line HTCs this year are called Desire. This is close to what Ken-Shi-Kun is saying. As the device was just released in April 2012 and HTC is marketing it as premuim (regardless of the 1 core CPU), it has lots of development life left.
Also, Jelly Bean shares critical hardware-side components such as drivers with ICS. This greatly reduces headache for the developers. For now, all of us are speculating.
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I noticed in your signature line that you want people to be polite. Great advice.
The One series is a premium line including the V. The mid-low line HTCs this year are called Desire. This is close to what Paresh is saying. On the other hand, the One V is not two years old as you say. It was released in April 2012. It has lots of development life left.
Also, Jelly Bean shares critical hardware-side components such as drivers with ICS. This greatly reduces headache for the developers. For now, all of us are speculating so there is no need to be harsh.
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Read again. I said that ONE V has a cpu that is 2 years old right now. Not the device! You though that I have the phone and i was thinking that it was released 2 years ago? And I am polite, I'm just explaining things. Or what, now if you explain something, you are called impolite or aggresive?
Get your act together dude!
I corrected my post above.
Peartfan40, you are right (below). My apologies to you, 1ceb0x and the community for my unwarranted bickering.
but what about the gpu of one v? Does it (or rather, will it) be able to handle 60fps?
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Read again. I said that ONE V has a cpu that is 2 years old right now. Not the device! You though that I have the phone and i was thinking that it was released 2 years ago? And I am polite, I'm just explaining things. Or what, now if you explain something, you are called impolite or aggresive?
Get your act together dude!
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Notice that I correct my post because I missed what you said before I read yours. Again, you should heed your own words.
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Are we done here? Everything good now? No more bickering, ja?
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Look at what Android central has to say to this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-or-tablet-get-jelly-bean-and-when :good:
that news is pure speculation, is like i'm saying to you that One V will not get JB, will get the android that will be built in 2 years from now.... if that story had something official, it would be great, but it doesn't
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that news is pure speculation, is like i'm saying to you that One V will not get JB, will get the android that will be built in 2 years from now.... if that story had something official, it would be great, but it doesn't
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No, but Android central has the benefit of experience dude, and the gpu of one v can run 60 fps...Why dont you think it'll not get Jb update??
Even if htc does decide to give jelly bean to our devices, it's going to be bloated with so much crapware(read:sense) that I'm sure the effects of project butter will not be seen.
I think we're better off waiting for this device to get more development and maybe cm10 will come for it.
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Even if htc does decide to give jelly bean to our devices, it's going to be bloated with so much crapware(read:sense) that I'm sure the effects of project butter will not be seen.
I think we're better off waiting for this device to get more development and maybe cm10 will come for it.
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Project Butter's REALLY cool...I dont think sense (read by you as crapware) will cause lag, and suppose it does, we can always flash our custom roms...Why not give it a try??
it is said that JB is not SO much different from ICS and it will be quite easy to upgrade ICS-running devices to JB. It wont take long as trasnfer from GB to ICS. Plus HTC tries to upgrade most of its devices releases in last 2 years, so I guess maybe it will take longer for One V to get JB than S or X but eventually it will.
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it is said that JB is not SO much different from ICS and it will be quite easy to upgrade ICS-running devices to JB. It wont take long as trasnfer from GB to ICS. Plus HTC tries to upgrade most of its devices releases in last 2 years, so I guess maybe it will take longer for One V to get JB than S or X but eventually it will.
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no! JB is DIFFERENT from ICS. TOTALLY!
user interface remained the same, yes! but the changes are internally, on how the UI is rendered. basically the transitions and overall speed will get increased 100%!
Also, HTC is going to use its own launcher
Those new expanding notifications and the resizable widgets will most probably get disposed, or worse, "sensed".
Good read on what's new in project butter:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
guys, we WILL get jellybean...probably slightly watered down to what the other ONE series devices will get, but we will get it...all depends on HTC and your Network....here's an example... my girlfriend has the Xperia ARC and Sony released ICS for it officially back in april\may her network provider STILL hasn't released it for her phone
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Hi guys, any news android 3 update and what features it brings for us.
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Hi guys, any news android 3 update and what features it brings for us.
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Hi guys, any news android 3 update and what features it brings for us.
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Yes, it works great on my HTC Touch Diamond!
I will send a link for the OTA update to your Desire in a few seconds...
Please wait for it and don't respond to this thread in the mean time...
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This question pops up every few days and the answer is always the same:
You can depend on it that any news on new Android versions will be posted here as soon as it's available!
If you want to ask a question, do it in the right thread and please use the usual format for new threads.
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You can find out everything from here
I read somewhere it has a built-in espressomachine and the rumor is that it can turn iron into gold.....but you didn't hear that from me!
There was a rumour that it was due out next month, but the dev's got sidetracked when they inadvertently found an entrance to Narnia
I've heard Google are incorporating a Mind Search for our gingerbreadz, along with a ray gun and a Wally finder.
Makes life easier!
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It has an app that lets you create world peace. There's also another that brings back orphans' parents.
I heard it has an instant lolcat app!
Wudnd tath b tha ahwsumz?1!on1e!
Trying the serious take:
It is said [read: rumoured], that Android 3.0 will mostly be about the interface. But one problem is that if you have HTC Sense, it'll be unlikely you will see this native 3.0 interface on your phone. But it should at least bring a lot of new stuff to your Desire. - Of course, it's possible to stop Sense from running, but you won't get exactly what I'm talking about this way.
The jump from a number like 2.1 or 2.2 to 3.0 is a rather big one, so I'm expecting a lot from it.
Also, anyone know of an official confirmation that 'gingerbread' is actually 3.0? Since there are rumours going about saying the next update would be called 'honeycomb'. It'd be too early to know anything about another version of Android if you ask me.
My biggest wish is just that this new interface thing they're working on will add the right amount of polish. That's one little thing I miss of Android, the consistency of applications and stuff - everything is different and there are no apps which share the same smoothness between eachother, but that's also due to how easily people can put something in the Android Market.
I know, if I want consistency and smoothness and the best looking interfaces, I should go for an iPhone. That's my own opinion by the way. It's just that I really like Android phones and the operating system, but dislike how everything looks so different from eachother. (unlike on the iPhone)
Please, Android 3.0, make the wait worthwhile..
Turns out 'Jaffacake' has been leaked and will be in a CM6 nightly soon ;D
http://twitgoo.com/1j4zyx
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Trying the serious take:
It is said [read: rumoured], that Android 3.0 will mostly be about the interface. But one problem is that if you have HTC Sense, it'll be unlikely you will see this native 3.0 interface on your phone. But it should at least bring a lot of new stuff to your Desire. - Of course, it's possible to stop Sense from running, but you won't get exactly what I'm talking about this way.
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Who said that the desire will get 3.0 in the first place ????
Desire sure not first,but when Nexus will started next will be Desire
lolzzz... really funny replies here does brings smile after hard day's work
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Who said that the desire will get 3.0 in the first place ????
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Desire sure not first,but when Nexus will started next will be Desire
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Yep, as we've seen from the Froyo roms, as soon as Android 3.0 hits the Nexus there will be ports and when it hits the AOSP it'll be compiled for the Desire. It may not ever be officially released for the Desire by HTC, but we'll get it somehow.
From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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And you don't consider a Desire "high end"? Droid X and Evo might have a bigger screen but the resolution is the same as the Desire. The Evo, besides the bigger screen and 4G, isn't more powerful or "high end"-er than the Desire...
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From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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Erm, Evo, Droid X and desire/n1 are essentially the same hardware underneath I mean 1ghz cpu, 512 ram ..
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Erm, Evo, Droid X and desire/n1 are essentially the same hardware underneath I mean 1ghz cpu, 512 ram ..
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The Desire has slightly more RAM
scaryzid said:
From what I read at Phandroid, Android 3.0 (honeycomb or gingerbread or gingercomb or honeybread etc.) might never make it to the Nexus One or the Desire. Reason being it shall be catered to high end smart phones like the Evo and Droid X.
Plus the revamp of the UI and the need for a bigger display, most likely it won't make it to the Desire. There's also a rumor going around that the Android 3.0 shall have no other UI layered on top so no HTC Sense or Motoblur.
Well it's all still rumors. Let's just wait for Christmas okay?
P.S: I think Winnie the Pooh might love Android 3.0.
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The Desire fits nicely above the required hardware specifications
Well who knows if they're 100% accurate... Still the Desires probably one of the best Android phones out there so it'll be possible they wouldn't make it so much more needed than what exists now.
hi everybody .. just finished to look the video of the Htc Sensation and i hope someone will port this rom on the DHD ..
PS : sorry for my english
The DHD questions section isn't really the best place to post a thread about how beautiful a rom for a completely different device is
Lol. It's possible.. but will take some time for sure.
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https://twitter.com/htc/statuses/58287330590601216
You got to be kidding me..... How can something like 'Sense' be to heavy to run on a 1ghz processor? Most app's don't even require this.
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https://twitter.com/htc/statuses/58287330590601216
You got to be kidding me..... How can something like 'Sense' be to heavy to run on a 1ghz processor? Most app's don't even require this.
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Sense 3.0 will run on a 1ghz processor, its just marketing.
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Sense 3.0 will run on a 1ghz processor, its just marketing.
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+1 its all about the business tactics.
we are building the sensation rom for dhd, will take some time though.....lots to do
Yup, you can follow the devs working on it in the dev thread! They have it sort of working now, although the different screen resolution seems to be a problem. However, they say it's working very smooth! No lag at all! So the 1Ghz is not a problem.
Just have to be patient for the resolution to be fixed... which seems to be a not so easy fix...
It runs fine on a DHD, I loaded the sense 3 alpha rom and it ran perfectly fine. It's currently non-functional and the resolution isn't ported yet.
+1 It's just marketing.
Maybe HTC is thinking on the battery life of their old phones.
Our 1GHz CPU has alot more work to do for the Sense 3.0 UI and they can't just shrink the already bad battery life.
That would make sense, as the Flyer is getting the new UI right? And it has the same CPU/GPU but a way bigger battery
now take a look at it again..
what is so special or surprising in this?
Could be to do with the current battery, but if you look at the improvements CoreDroid have made to their ROM, they have managed to get a much faster Sense ROM, but with much better battery, so surely HTC would be able to do this? CoreDroid claim to have better battery by 50%, if HTC managed to do the same, running a ROM made originally for a dual-core processor would result in the same battery life that we have now. Just think about it and you'll understand.
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It's HTC marketing, for people who don't know much about phones to make them upgrade.
True, but most people that get Android tend to know what they are doing, am I not correct? If you have never used Android before, and your phones due an upgrade, surely you would go for an iPhone, due to the ease of use and the general market share the iPhone has. And even if you did go for a top spec Android phone such as the Desire HD, why, just a few months after you have bought it, would you go out and buy a new phone just because if a software update and a few internal changes? As far as I'm concerned, if it is HTC using ways of Marketing, then they will be loosing me as a customer. I've gone from a Desire to a Desire HD on a contract upgrade, I only chose the Desire HD due to the updated sense, and that's gods honest truth, and now, 5 months later, I'm being told that my phones spec doesn't match up to that required of the new update, despite the fact that to-date the DhD is the most powerfules phone on sale in the UK. HTC's gonna loose customers if they keep showing off shiny new things, and not giving it to so-called 'respected customers'.
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True, but most people that get Android tend to know what they are doing, am I not correct? If you have never used Android before, and your phones due an upgrade, surely you would go for an iPhone, due to the ease of use and the general market share the iPhone has. And even if you did go for a top spec Android phone such as the Desire HD, why, just a few months after you have bought it, would you go out and buy a new phone just because if a software update and a few internal changes? As far as I'm concerned, if it is HTC using ways of Marketing, then they will be loosing me as a customer. I've gone from a Desire to a Desire HD on a contract upgrade, I only chose the Desire HD due to the updated sense, and that's gods honest truth, and now, 5 months later, I'm being told that my phones spec doesn't match up to that required of the new update, despite the fact that to-date the DhD is the most powerfules phone on sale in the UK. HTC's gonna loose customers if they keep showing off shiny new things, and not giving it to so-called 'respected customers'.
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Yeah I know what you mean, but 5 months is a long time in the technology world. Their marketing will try to convince anybody to upgrade since old stuff is not "good enough".
Desire HD is a SICK phone, I don't really see why to upgrade from it and that's maybe what they are tying to achieve with this marketing?
As you've said, noobs don't usually buy an android and if they do they probably go back to a iphone, so who are they trying to fool?
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Yeah I know what you mean, but 5 months is a long time in the technology world. Their marketing will try to convince anybody to upgrade since old stuff is not "good enough".
Desire HD is a SICK phone, I don't really see why to upgrade from it and that's maybe what they are tying to achieve with this marketing?
As you've said, noobs don't usually buy an android and if they do they probably go back to a iphone, so who are they trying to fool?
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Thanks for helping confirm what I put, HTC are fooling nobody because I doubt a lot of people are going to get the Sensation despite the beautiful UI. W have already proven it can work on the Desire HD, and your right it is a sick phone! I reckon HTC will eventually release the full 3.0 update, due to demand, but it will be well after the Sensation release.
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POKER FACE..... really? it´s great!!!!! and thank´s of course gekrem!!!
pd: i think that there´s no problem with the processor we can do OVERCLOCK and set up performance!!!! only a little condition... bad battery drain..
Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom
should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
without the source it looks for me that it won't be possible to boot the emulator image on our hero, because it is compiled for armeabi-v7a (snapdragon cpu) only.
thank you for your post
booooo sounds like time for an upgrade
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should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
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I think source code was already released
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
That's different. SDK is not kernel source. That's why most honeycomb Ports aren't complete. No source was released.
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Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom
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Maybe someone can get it to run. but I don't get my hopes up if I where you. if you look at 2.3 how that runs on the hero comparing to 2.2 and mostly 2.1. And 4.0 even more stuffed then I guess not
touch wood, 2.3.7 is working well for me on my Hero (dont really to upgrade just to get Android 4.0)
But keeping an eye on some HTC Desires on ebay nonetheless
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Maybe someone can get it to run.
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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.
I hope for a Vanilla 4.0, with no heavy CM mods
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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.
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I thinks so too.
I remember when on this forum we were discussing about porting Froyo 2.2. on the Hero...lol...
Its not long since the GB rom's were considered too fat for the hero. Look at us now..... mines has never been so quick.
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I completely agree with Prof Peach. GB was slow on first releases and now it flies so maybe it's hope for 4.0 too when the sources come out and them maybe it will boot on our Hero after the devs cast their magic.
yea, but don't forget the one and only honeycomb rom for gsm hero which JieeHD (I think) created from the sdk...
YES it was from sdk and so it was a miracle it ran at all, but it was SO slow that you couldn't even try the UI features of the rom. No the hardware didn't work at all, no data, wifi, etc, and that is all because it came from the sdk. That wasn't the purpose of the sdk build. It was just to play with the honeycomb UI, but even then the UI should have run alright if it was ever going to run on the hero.
However that rom (which I still have kicking around somewhere) showed me just how honeycomb was clearly made to run on much more powerful hardware than even gingerbread requires.
So I personally will be very surprised if it works well enough for daily use.
But then I'm running a gingerbread rom that is fast enough for daily use and perfectly stable... and I bet against that every happening back in teh day LoL.
I've been wrong before, and I hope you guys can prove me wrong again. I'm always happy to be wrong when I'm being pessimistic!
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To upgrade or not to upgrade? This is the big question for the android community!!!!
It will run on the hero, but since phones are getting bigger, i think it's gonna be kind of weird to run 4.0... We will have to see it ported firts
As far from what i see and what the google guys reported...every phone that can run GB can run ICS... so that means that there can't be a big problem to run the os, and since the nexus S will receive the update, that means that there is a way to disable the on screen buttons...
For the moment we stick with what we have !!! And we have to THANKS the devs that keep this phone alive. As for the part with upgrading to a new phone, i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core) or buy phones like nexus S that now are on slim prices
PS: since i got my tablet, i'm not so much into getting a new phone
Stefan
yea, tablets are awesome. Same here - I've used many android tablets and my employer supplies apple devices for my dev work at one company.
Tablets are awesome if you truly embrace them and buy whatever options you need to use them as virtual laptops effectively.
Agree with dkelley...if you have places where you can use them, it's better to have one...i use mine all the time, from movies and finishing with reading stuff.
I have to admin i was thinking on to buy a desire Hd / Nexus S...but not so shure
Stefan
yeah i love my Hero to bits, cost me £50 with Android 1.6 pre installed on it from some guy at work lol.
Whilst i can appreciate its an old handset etc etc, its running gingerbread like a dream, so would love to see the 'consolidated' release of 4.0 on there, i feel google will have dropped a legacy beat if only snapdragon cpus are supported.
admins feel free to move this to the Q&A sub-forum if required
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i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core)
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This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...
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This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...
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For me the Hero is a phone. and nothing more. It is a little smarter phone then my moms. She can text and call. I can do that and I can also send mail check agenda and navigate some. That is what I use my phone for. If I need more then I will use my laptop anyway. So the Hero with some easy rom is fine for me.
Android 4.0 will bring problems and stuff that I will never use anyway. If you look at most devs on the Hero forum. They are good porters and breakers of things. I am the last one, a breaker XD There are still a half hand full of devs for the Hero.
I think the CDMA will have 4.0 sooner then the Hero. But that is just my oppinion. If they ever get it...
And is there an upgrade for sgs2?
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OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm going to post this question in the HOX, SGN, and SGS3 forums too, to (try to) get a balanced view.
I was already to get the Note, then I picked one up and it's a Samsung. It was like Agent J and the noisy cricket. The One X still pisses me off with it's non removable battery and no external storage slot. The SGS III will be a Samsung. I don't understand why their phones feel so cheap. HTC's plastics aren't that toy-like.
Sprint's Evo LTE gives me hope though. It's nearly a One X with a bigger, though still not removable, battery and it has a micro sd slot. Maybe the next upgrade for the "flagship" will get them also.
Just my thoughts but I guess I would wait to see what else is coming. The SGS III may be better than I think or maybe something else can make me a fool.
I'm liking ICS on it now and it will only get better when the official update comes out.
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Thanks BLG - I know where you are coming from.
Having owned 5 HTC devices on the spin, I feel a little grubby myself considering Samsungs! ;-)
However, here lies part of the problem - I think I'm bored of HTC, and the One X and One S are just so.... safe looking. Where is the design flair? Plus, I've never been much of a ROM flasher (although I did put Vegacomb on my tablet), preferring to have a device that works rather than list the compromises and things which dont quite work properly, so stock Sense is now getting very stale indeed.
Maybe I need to turn to the dark side briefly just to satisfy my curiosity that the grass isnt always greener?
I'm sure I will go wrap my mitts around the SGS III asap. I just want my next device to look, feel and dammit, smell better than what I have. Besides, touchwiz is just
UGLY.
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4) I would keep the Desire HD for another 12 months and flash a custom android 4 Rom with sence 4.0 when we get the official 3.0 kernel.
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Muikkuman said:
4) I would keep the Desire HD for another 12 months and flash a custom android 4 Rom with sence 4.0 when we get the official 3.0 kernel.
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Hmmmm, an interesting alternative, there. Whatever I decide, I'll probably keep the DHD anyway and use it as a test device for flashing/generally mucking about.
I've decided (with a feeling of I'm cheating on a loved one) to get a Note online, then I can return it under distance selling laws if I find it unbearable to live with.
Genuinely, many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your insight has been much appreciated.
Rob
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4) I would keep the Desire HD for another 12 months and flash a custom android 4 Rom with sence 4.0 when we get the official 3.0 kernel.
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This is my strategy, too
Peter
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4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
Current Quad Core are based on A9, wait till the next wave when they are based on A15
RobTheRover said:
Plus, I've never been much of a ROM flasher...preferring to have a device that works...
Maybe I need to turn to the dark side briefly just to satisfy my curiosity that the grass isnt always greener?
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When you say dark side, meaning Apple of course, have you ever considered Windows Phone? I'm much the same as you. Although playing around with the various DHD custon ROMs and having the freedom of Android has been enjoyable; I'm now thinking I just want a phone that works and doesn't need to be mucked around with. Was tossing up Windows Phone, maybe the HTC Titan as an upgrade. Thoughts?
Well this is it
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hehe... i still have the feeling that Sense 5 was the last big update...but i say its ok...i dont think that nowdays...(i mean in the rush time we live..if i can say that so) its a good idea to make over and over updates for old phones so that you dont need to buy a new phone...i can understand that a little bit...2 years are ok..and a must...i dont want a big discussion about this..for this there are enough threads..but thats my thinking and i hope i dont make me enemies
So much for this being 'flagship'. HTC really don't care about their customers once they have a new bun in the oven.
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So much for this being 'flagship'. HTC really don't care about their customers once they have a new bun in the oven.
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Its not a bun really... It is a snapdragon 600 wrapped in tinfoil
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So much for this being 'flagship'. HTC really don't care about their customers once they have a new bun in the oven.
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The One X was the 2012 flagship, it's almost 2014 HTC has gone beyond and above with support for the One X.
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I suppose so.
I guess the only option would be cm11
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I guess the only option would be cm11
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Probably. I doubt there will be a port from the one. But you never know
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The One X was the 2012 flagship, it's almost 2014 HTC has gone beyond and above with support for the One X.
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I tend to disagree. Only year and a half is passed after HOX release and less than a year of hox+ release. It's not right to not update the previous generation. Atleast 2 years is a must. We can bash samsung all that we want, but they support their top models far better than htc, sadly as htc is far better phone builder. I hope when lenovo buy htc there will be new "hardcore boner" phones. Htc support of past models is getting worse and worse as their financial records are dropping with extreme rate(and with that "support" they only make it worse). They just don't have the human power/money power to support older devices. Sad, but true.
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I tend to disagree. Only year and a half is passed after HOX release and less than a year of hox+ release. It's not right to not update the previous generation. Atleast 2 years is a must. We can bash samsung all that we want, but they support their top models far better than htc, sadly as htc is far better phone builder. I hope when lenovo buy htc there will be new "hardcore boner" phones. Htc support of past models is getting worse and worse as their financial records are dropping with extreme rate(and with that "support" they only make it worse). They just don't have the human power/money power to support older devices. Sad, but true.
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If i would be a onex+ owner i would be very very pissed
I realy hope htc will get a second chance with lenovo.
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I don't get it, if you want to be 'up to date' you should buy a new phone every two years. I think HTC did an amazing job with 4.2.2 sense 5. I do not expect more of them. It's not all about you and me in this world. I rather like HTC to work on new stuff then giving ten years of support to 'old' devices.
And be honest, this latest update with the hardware of the one x will run for a long time, it's not that our device becomes useless because of no updates.
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I don't get it, if you want to be 'up to date' you should buy a new phone every two years. I think HTC did an amazing job with 4.2.2 sense 5. I do not expect more of them. It's not all about you and me in this world. I rather like HTC to work on new stuff then giving ten years of support to 'old' devices.
And be honest, this latest update with the hardware of the one x will run for a long time, it's not that our device becomes useless because of no updates.
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I will just say that if you bought a hox+ (released november 2012) you would need to buy a new phone in less then a year if you wanted to be on the latest... btw latest for htc and sammy means one version behind
In the case of the hox... They supported it for a year and a half.
our devices were never on the latest android version. I dont call it an update if you are one or two versions behind. Sammy is the same but i hate them even more for that because they have the resources to update it in a reasonable timeframe. But they dont.
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it's really disappointing
I don't care that much about Sense 5.5 , because most of the features that are in it, we already have with Sense 5.0 for our One X (except for the camera features, we'll never get those). But I do care about the 4.3 update and I hope we get it. According to previous leek - we will get 4.3 with Sense 5.0.
I think this is the end for the hox and the hox+. Because if they make the effort to update it to 4.3 sense 5.5 would come with it. Thats my thinking
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If you want latest updates buy a Nexus device. If you want sense you know you won't get updates after 1 or 1,5 year. It's nothing new. You knew it the moment you bought the One X.
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Well, if you guys actually read the changelog, 70% of the Sense 5.5 features are basically our own Sense 5.0 features. The reason for this is that most One's in the US were stuck on 4.1.2 while we were getting our 4.2.2 update. So to avoid wasting time, HTC announced they'd skip 4.2.2 for the One and jump straight to 4.3. So most of the things in 4.3 Sense 5.5 is basically from out own Sense 5.0, it's just finally making it to devices which were deprived from 4.2.2 unlike us.
As for 4.3 for the One X, I really don't mind if we don't get it. I like Sense 5. I'm not the kinda guy who NEEDS the bleeding edge of OS updates. I'm just the average Joe who just needs something nice to use. 4.2.2 is good one the One X and I don't mind it staying on it till I replace it in the future. Even if I get tired, there's always aftermarket ROMs so the options are not limited. I know I can't speak for everyone because I have a Nexus 7 which is always up-to-date but believe me when I say there are more days then not when I actually prefer using my 4.2.2 Sense 5 over the 4.3 in my N7
All I can say is just enjoy your phones. Compared to TW updates or Sony updates which sometimes f*ck your old devices up, HTC actually didn't with our update besides, what's in 4.3 that we NEED that badly in our phones ? The only thing I see actually worth the update is Bluetooth 4.0 support and even that's not really for me but more for the One X owners who threw a hissy fit about Sense not supporting it and felt scammed.
If I'm honest I'm perfectly happy with my hox. It's not been the flagship for a good while but update still happened and many facets from future updates will likely be brought to hox on xda once enough time passes and people feel like it.
Don't expect but couldn't ask for more
Well, if samsung S3 will get it (same specifics) like HOX why we do not get 4.3?
BUT if they dont care for costumers we have our way to punish bad costumer care brands.
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Well... The only thing that I really want from sense 5.5 is the RSS support for blinkfeed - it will make it alot more usable for me, right now I dont use it because feedly is much better for my RSS subscriptions. Furthermore, the only thing that I want from 4.3 is the trim feature, but I have root and I use the trim app..so maybe it's not a must.
Anyway next phone for me is nexus, even though sense is just better than any other UI in the market IMHO.