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I've heard that despite being designed for water resistance, the Defy has water sensors which can be checked for warranty purposes. Can anyone here report the locations of these sensors? And if you took your Defy for a bath, are the sensors now affected?
I guess most handset have these type of sensors today and there actually just stickers that get colored when moisture reaches them. So the only way to find out if you triggered it would be to physically open up the device before and after exposure. Since the Defy is not water proof I'm pretty sure that they will not replace your phone if it has been water damaged. If you just forget the caps on the USB or headphone outputs it will propably be damaged by water and you would void your warranty.
One is one the edge of the battery, it's a white rectangle with pink X's on it; the other is under the battery on the device itself. It's a tiny white hexagon.
the battery door is air tight, but only up to 3 feet I believe. so if you drop it in the toilet or in a cup of tea, the phone will be fine and the water stickers wont be affected. I would assume that there might be another on the inside of the phone.
Eh.. I would want to test this phone so bad..
Infact I'm considering bringing a ziplock bag full of water to the tmobile store and demanding the phone be tested before I buy it. Making sure that they bring out the one I'm going to buy and testing that one specifically.
If they say no its w/e. But, I want to see a test before I jump in head first.
With that said, the folks at engadget I think it was ruined one of the two test units because the flap on the back of the battery didn't go in right.
Snow_fox said:
Eh.. I would want to test this phone so bad..
Infact I'm considering bringing a ziplock bag full of water to the tmobile store and demanding the phone be tested before I buy it. Making sure that they bring out the one I'm going to buy and testing that one specifically.
If they say no its w/e. But, I want to see a test before I jump in head first.
With that said, the folks at engadget I think it was ruined one of the two test units because the flap on the back of the battery didn't go in right.
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OK, so I have had mine in a few glasses of water at restaurants (people bragging to me there was nothing their phone couldn't do that my could) and in a hot, tall Starbucks (regular coffee) at a meeting that almost gave everyone a heart attack. And, you must have seen the video where they start the camcorder and drop it to the bottom of a pool? W/O issues? I'm thinking of having a holster made for it that clips to the front of my snowboard.
They would be inside where the battery is stored. This part of the phone is, naturally, not water proof (battery, sd and sim card contacts). There is a water resistant gasket on the seal where the backing goes. It is spring tensioned so it makes a good, watertight seal. So, I would not sweat triggering the moisture sensor IF you have the back of the phone on correctly.
I wouldn't go deep sea diving with the phone either... water proof or not. I don't see any harm in having the phone in your pants pocket on the floor while your taking a shower though..
Sorry, for some reason I didn't see the NUMEROUS replies to your post. I basically just parroted off what the others had said.
Sorry, for some reason I didn't see the NUMEROUS replies to your post. I basically just parroted off what the others had said.
Moisture indicators are common-place in phones, generally there's one on the battery and another one on the phone in the area the battery sits in.
Most of them are white and turn a very noticeable red when damp however some others are, as people have described, white with a coloured pattern and the smudging of the pattern is the indication.
That said, any engineer worth their salt will be able to open up the handset and check the circuit-boards themselves for corrosion, the indicators are there to speed up matters but are by no means the only way in which moisture damage can be detected.
put it to water?
Long story short, phone falls out of my pocket about 1ft onto a laminate floor and the whole digitizer decided to crack (so much for really strong screens). I've ordered a replacement digitizer but i cant seem to find anywhere on this ever so vast internet, what adhesive I need to attach the new digitizer.
the phone is running cm7 so i really don't want to go through the hassle of re-flashing it with a stock ROM in the hopes of getting it repaired under warranty.
very stressfull week, and now this think im gna go sit in a corner and cry
Any help is really appreciated
Any retail strong glue would do the job as what I see here. Just the case of how details is your work would come. If you do it slow and details without any rush or interuption, I think it will turn out like new you wouldn't notice it has changed the screen.
I've seen a video clip, a guy changing the Defy crack screen and it turned out very dirty. The glue just spread out all over the side of the screen.
You could just do a few practice of using the glue on a different object that required sharp and details hands/fingers and then only come back to work with your delicate DEFY.
Thanks for the quick reply
if the video is the 3 part one where fixes the screen and forgets he hasn't charged it then i watched that a few Min b4 my first post.
Google'd the names on the adhesive he used and got no results besides music cd's lol.
Would using the wrong kind of glue affect the touch screen? I don't really care about the waterproofing as it will be inside my wrist strap all of the time whilst im on my bike, but i just want to ensure that using the wrong glue wont render my new screen absolutely useless.
My town is riddled with phone repair shops. I got quotes from 4 of them, for just simply glueing the digitizer to the faceplate. Lowest quote i got for 5 min work was £20......... daylight robbery!!!
And my fingers are very accurate for some reason (apart from when trying to hit a link on the defy browser without zooming in grrrrrrrr), glued the trim on my les paul guitar easily, still give it a few practises tho
again, thanks for the quick reply
Good...
A good practise is to pour the glue like a water drop on a paper and use a sharp holder like twiser or a pin and take it a little and spreading it along the side of the Defy screen frame evenly.
needless to say, that's the thing i hate the most about the D3O cases, they are too slippery
it was a heavy rainy day today, pool of water everywhere
...and well, getting off the car the phone went phrlum! and i was like OMG!!!!!!
I think i shouted holy F***! unconsciously and was pretty loud as all the people in the shopping plaza parking lot was looking my way
i guess the whole think too about a couple of seconds, as i picked it up right away, but i went deep, the screen was facing me as it dropped, so i saw i sunk like the titanic, and water covering the screen... at that point i was like... oh shiate! gonna have to take it apart to let it dry
but to my disbelief i rescued it from its waterly doom, and loh'& behold it was still live and kicking, damn mud dirty though, but after cleaning it up, i was able to confirm all the features are still working fine.
and the screen protector just made itself worth the money..
at first i though the water damage caused a dead pixel, as there was tiny speck that would not go away no matter how i cleaned it, was ready for the worse, thinking 1 dead LED is nominal vs the idea of having to replace the whole screen if the water did really make its way to the innars
well thankfully in the end i tried removing the screen protector and taaaa daaaa that nasty spot is gone too
whatever it was it must have hit something hard when it landed in the water, it did bounce 5 times in the puddle pavement before landing still.
anyways, right now i left it sitting on top of my super heated i7 for it to dry over night
all i7 CPUs even at iddle temp hover around 50c i always put stuff i need to dry quickly on top of my PC
Glad to hear the beast is unscathed.
I7 is cool but i would try rice trick if it was me.
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Should of put in raw rice
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Glad to hear the beast is unscathed.
I7 is cool but i would try rice trick if it was me.
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Dam that had to make for an insane day!
I agree I recommend the rice trick! Maybe even combine the 2 just to be on the safe side!
Dodged a bullet there Dude. Cheers. I did a similar thing. Put my phone by the sink. H sh1t!!! There was an invisible puddle. Was wet in all sorts of places. Removed the battery and properly dried it. Thanked God approprietately as it is fine
What's the rice trick?
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What's the rice trick?
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The rice trick is a way to get the rice absorb the moisture out of the phone . Fill up a small container filled with rice. Put the phone inside the rice. Leave it there for about a day and the rice will absorb the moisture out of the phone. Also, the moisture indicator stickers inside the phone (battery compartment) and the battery will turn from white to pink once it gets in contact with water. This will void your warranty unless you bought an optional warranty that covers water damage.
http://www.wikihow.com/Save-a-Wet-Cell-Phone
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Dodged a bullet there Dude. Cheers. I did a similar thing. Put my phone by the sink. H sh1t!!! There was an invisible puddle. Was wet in all sorts of places. Removed the battery and properly dried it. Thanked God approprietately as it is fine
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yeah man, that was a close one yesterday.
i literally saw my life flash in front of me for a split second there
in that transient state, i though about business contacts, documents, family contacts, photos, water seal prof, no warranty, repair cost, etc, etc
pretty much everything that i was going to "lose" if the phone did die
i'm glad i didn't have to experience any of that, and as for all my data, they are all backed up automatically to my gmail account, so i wouldn't really lose anything, just a normal reaction, or more like the annoyance of having to restore all the data manually
water damage and no audio
Help Please! Q. Basically where is the actual microphone element and related contacts? The full descriptive problem- To avoid damaging my phone at construction jobsite I placed it, with other personal belongings inside my lunch bag. (polyethelene grocery sack). Enclosed inside the bag was a tall can of Arizona Iced Tea brand, Sweet Tea beverage. Mysteriously the can had burst or punctured and the phone was found fully submerged 100% in the sugary liquid on the bottom of the bag. I removed rear cover and the battery. Both the battery and the inside compartment were fairly dry. *The moisture indicator labels were both bright red, indicative of warranty voided moisture exposure. The headphone jack and charge port were both completely breached and had allowed fluid into the mainboard and camera sub assembly boards. I completely disassembled the phone by removing the six screws and disconnecting the various flexcable connectors . The parts were thoroughly rinsed with a bottle sprayer filled with Anhydrous Isopropyl Alcohol, all parts were then blotted dry with absorbant paper. Final procedure included placing all components into a preheated coffee can filled completly full of silica gel dessicant. Everthing remained buried within the media and left to dehydrate for 12 continuious hour @ 105°F before final reassembly. The phone has been restored to 99% full functionality and all sensors and and rf subsections appear to funtion including GPS ,ACCELEROMETERS, MAGNEMOMETER, COMPASS, WIFI BLUETOOTH, CHARGING SYSTEM, DIGITIZER, *SPEAKER DISPLAY, BOTH CAMERAS FULLY FUNCTION AND METER EXPOSURE CORRECTLY.... I CAN PLACE . AND RECIEVE PHONECALLS BUT NOBODY CAN RECIEVE MY AUDIO THROUGH MY MICROPHONE NOR CAN I RECORD ANY AUDIO ON MY MEDIA APLLICATIONS. BASICALLY *I CANT TALK ON MY PHONE!!! ( thats why im yelling!!!) I have dissasmbled and reassmbled several times , taking care to seat all connectors and have even applied "De-Oxit" brand contact cleaner to all connectors including the spring pressure pads on the outer housing . I RETENSIONED THE GOLD SPRING PRESSURE PADS TO INSURE CONTACT WITH THE CORROSPONDING MATING SURFACES. I BELIEVE THAT THE LOWER LEFT CONTACTS (righthand side when observed from the rear) MATES TO A CONDUCTIVE RUBBER CONTACT ALONG THE LOWER OUTER BACK FRAME. Is this where the condenser mic element reside? Is this avail as replacement part and would this likely be damaged by liquid or ensuing treatment??? Perhaps the alcohol solvent damaged conductive carbon rubber pad? *I am not a tech especially a cellphone tech. I AM JUST A PLUMBER! But I am very technically inclined and am better equiped then most with a higher end DVMM, Audio signal generator, freq counter and even a basic crt 10 meg scope. (my multimeter has a serial port and software bundle for a better virtual digital sampling scope than the crt) MY PHONE IS 100% STOCK AND UNROOTED W/ LATEST TMOBILE FIRMWARE. I AM FULLY CAPABLE BUT JUST NEED SOME ADANCED HELP AND DIRECTION FOR WHAT IS SIMPLE REPAIRABLE MALFUNCTION. Can someone knowledgeable about this type of micro surfacemount technology please hold my hand and guide me with some "sound" advice.!
AllGamer said:
needless to say, that's the thing i hate the most about the D3O cases, they are too slippery
it was a heavy rainy day today, pool of water everywhere
...and well, getting off the car the phone went phrlum! and i was like OMG!!!!!!
I think i shouted holy F***! unconsciously and was pretty loud as all the people in the shopping plaza parking lot was looking my way
i guess the whole think too about a couple of seconds, as i picked it up right away, but i went deep, the screen was facing me as it dropped, so i saw i sunk like the titanic, and water covering the screen... at that point i was like... oh shiate! gonna have to take it apart to let it dry
but to my disbelief i rescued it from its waterly doom, and loh'& behold it was still live and kicking, damn mud dirty though, but after cleaning it up, i was able to confirm all the features are still working fine.
and the screen protector just made itself worth the money..
at first i though the water damage caused a dead pixel, as there was tiny speck that would not go away no matter how i cleaned it, was ready for the worse, thinking 1 dead LED is nominal vs the idea of having to replace the whole screen if the water did really make its way to the innars
well thankfully in the end i tried removing the screen protector and taaaa daaaa that nasty spot is gone too
whatever it was it must have hit something hard when it landed in the water, it did bounce 5 times in the puddle pavement before landing still.
anyways, right now i left it sitting on top of my super heated i7 for it to dry over night
all i7 CPUs even at iddle temp hover around 50c i always put stuff i need to dry quickly on top of my PC
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****ty :/ I got the ballistics, its got pretty damn good grip & same thing, besides usb port & 3.5mm jack its basicly sealed in there, even spilt pop on it enough to have a "pool" on the screen & it couldn't even get under the lip of the case xD
Never got it submerged tho xD glad its at least still workin for ye
& ye I can confirm the i7 heat xD I can't leave my PC on for more then a few hours, got it in the basement & I could literally use it as a space heater xD
I even got a fullsize HAF case & got a heatsync that holds 2 huge ass fans & 3 of the same size fans on the case, me thinks its the 1200w PSU & maybe my GPU xD
I still say my Phenom 965 build OC ~4.2 ghz with 8gb ram (can't buy 4gb sticks here, only 2 & donno a good reliable wholesaler with online purchasing)
Can kick my i7s @$$, the i7 is better for compiling huge projects, or even transcoding 2 DVD (eg: 2hr film to DVD is ~15min in nero 10)
But gaming was honestly about the same, if better in the sence of pure FPS, on the phenom, even played crysis maxed out (set to very high, exited & installed sh!t like real lifesys, & heavily customized), on 3 monitors @ 1080p (2x GTX 465 (ul470)) , that beast tanked everything, but finding wallpapers was a b!tch xD lol
Temped to go back just cuz the heat, its in my unused tower atm
Sorry for goin off-topic alil lol
Have u tryed underclocking? I'm tempted to go for hydrocooling but don't gut funds atm, & UC isn't & option for me I wish I could OC but my Intel's history says otherwise xD
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****ty :/ I got the ballistics, its got pretty damn good grip & same thing, besides usb port & 3.5mm jack its basicly sealed in there, even spilt pop on it enough to have a "pool" on the screen & it couldn't even get under the lip of the case xD
Never got it submerged tho xD glad its at least still workin for ye
& ye I can confirm the i7 heat xD I can't leave my PC on for more then a few hours, got it in the basement & I could literally use it as a space heater xD
I even got a fullsize HAF case & got a heatsync that holds 2 huge ass fans & 3 of the same size fans on the case, me thinks its the 1200w PSU & maybe my GPU xD
I still say my Phenom 965 build OC ~4.2 ghz with 8gb ram (can't buy 4gb sticks here, only 2 & donno a good reliable wholesaler with online purchasing)
Can kick my i7s @$$, the i7 is better for compiling huge projects, or even transcoding 2 DVD (eg: 2hr film to DVD is ~15min in nero 10)
But gaming was honestly about the same, if better in the sence of pure FPS, on the phenom, even played crysis maxed out (set to very high, exited & installed sh!t like real lifesys, & heavily customized), on 3 monitors @ 1080p (2x GTX 465 (ul470)) , that beast tanked everything, but finding wallpapers was a b!tch xD lol
Temped to go back just cuz the heat, its in my unused tower atm
Sorry for goin off-topic alil lol
Have u tryed underclocking? I'm tempted to go for hydrocooling but don't gut funds atm, & UC isn't & option for me I wish I could OC but my Intel's history says otherwise xD
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Help Please! Q. Basically where is the actual microphone element and related contacts? The full descriptive problem- To avoid damaging my phone at construction jobsite I placed it, with other personal belongings inside my lunch bag. (polyethelene grocery sack). Enclosed inside the bag was a tall can of Arizona Iced Tea brand, Sweet Tea beverage. Mysteriously the can had burst or punctured and the phone was found fully submerged 100% in the sugary liquid on the bottom of the bag. I removed rear cover and the battery. Both the battery and the inside compartment were fairly dry. *The moisture indicator labels were both bright red, indicative of warranty voided moisture exposure. The headphone jack and charge port were both completely breached and had allowed fluid into the mainboard and camera sub assembly boards. I completely disassembled the phone by removing the six screws and disconnecting the various flexcable connectors . The parts were thoroughly rinsed with a bottle sprayer filled with Anhydrous Isopropyl Alcohol, all parts were then blotted dry with absorbant paper. Final procedure included placing all components into a preheated coffee can filled completly full of silica gel dessicant. Everthing remained buried within the media and left to dehydrate for 12 continuious hour @ 105°F before final reassembly. The phone has been restored to 99% full functionality and all sensors and and rf subsections appear to funtion including GPS ,ACCELEROMETERS, MAGNEMOMETER, COMPASS, WIFI BLUETOOTH, CHARGING SYSTEM, DIGITIZER, *SPEAKER DISPLAY, BOTH CAMERAS FULLY FUNCTION AND METER EXPOSURE CORRECTLY.... I CAN PLACE . AND RECIEVE PHONECALLS BUT NOBODY CAN RECIEVE MY AUDIO THROUGH MY MICROPHONE NOR CAN I RECORD ANY AUDIO ON MY MEDIA APLLICATIONS. BASICALLY *I CANT TALK ON MY PHONE!!! ( thats why im yelling!!!) I have dissasmbled and reassmbled several times , taking care to seat all connectors and have even applied "De-Oxit" brand contact cleaner to all connectors including the spring pressure pads on the outer housing . I RETENSIONED THE GOLD SPRING PRESSURE PADS TO INSURE CONTACT WITH THE CORROSPONDING MATING SURFACES. I BELIEVE THAT THE LOWER LEFT CONTACTS (righthand side when observed from the rear) MATES TO A CONDUCTIVE RUBBER CONTACT ALONG THE LOWER OUTER BACK FRAME. Is this where the condenser mic element reside? Is this avail as replacement part and would this likely be damaged by liquid or ensuing treatment??? Perhaps the alcohol solvent damaged conductive carbon rubber pad? *I am not a tech especially a cellphone tech. I AM JUST A PLUMBER! But I am very technically inclined and am better equiped then most with a higher end DVMM, Audio signal generator, freq counter and even a basic crt 10 meg scope. (my multimeter has a serial port and software bundle for a better virtual digital sampling scope than the crt) MY PHONE IS 100% STOCK AND UNROOTED W/ LATEST TMOBILE FIRMWARE. I AM FULLY CAPABLE BUT JUST NEED SOME ADANCED HELP AND DIRECTION FOR WHAT IS SIMPLE REPAIRABLE MALFUNCTION. Can someone knowledgeable about this type of micro surfacemount technology please hold my hand and guide me with some "sound" advice.!
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Holy wall of Text Batman. I try to read it but then the wall of text starts screaming at me. Maybe if you use the wonderful invention called "paragraphs" with a touch of some "periods" and sprinkled with a little less Caps Lock key you might have a readable post. And maybe an actual response or two.
Call me crazy but I just can't read this without my brain hurting. :silly:
Glad you was able to save your phone.
Don't wanna get too off topic but my i7 idles around 36c.
My nephew was zealously playing mushroom wars, and while he was trying to angrily eliminate the enemy shrooms he was pressing entirely to hard.
I now have some seriously bleed behind the corner of the screen where the offending shrooms were. Also there are blue streaks in the same corner. which are in my opinion a much worse eyesore than the bleeding.
I assume he has not only pushed the LCD away from the digitizer, but also irreparably damaged the LCD it'self. However I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what I can do to fix the streaking. I am going to tear it apart and try to fix the bleed issue.
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Why not try seeing if you can get asus to service it? I've never seen that happen on another glass-covered device even with excessive force used.
Looks like too much pressure was put on the unit causing what is behind the screen to be pressed upwards toward the lcd/glass. This is normally a metal shield of some sort. Pulling dents out from it may be possible with some sort of dent puller/suction cup but there is a frame in the way that may cause you issues from looking @ http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+7+2nd+Generation+Teardown/16072. Also if the soft battery has suffered any crush damage or bending it may puff out and need to be replaced or you run the risk of a runaway thermal event at worst or just reduced run-time at best.
Don't you also need to remove a warranty voiding sticker to access the shielding in the first place?
I blue myself?
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My nephew was zealously playing mushroom wars, and while he was trying to angrily eliminate the enemy shrooms he was pressing entirely to hard.
I now have some seriously bleed behind the corner of the screen where the offending shrooms were. Also there are blue streaks in the same corner. which are in my opinion a much worse eyesore than the bleeding.
I assume he has not only pushed the LCD away from the digitizer, but also irreparably damaged the LCD it'self. However I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what I can do to fix the streaking. I am going to tear it apart and try to fix the bleed issue.
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I actually have the same thing, have had it on 3 separate units too. Gave up on trying to get a new one after the third and will be trying to send it int asus. None have suffered any damage or abuse either.
I have the same problem out of the box. mine looks like a warped outline of the motherboard. I've been on the fence about loosening the screws on the motherboard to see if that helps, but that means removing the warranty sticker. Has anyone else tried?
Hi, guys...
After spending fours years tinkering around with budget to mid-range Android devices, last month I decided to treat myself to a top-of-the range, flagship device... and four weeks ago I bought (off contract) the HTC One M8. And I am absolutely delighted it with it... it is truly an amazing piece of technology.
However, a few days ago, when cleaning the screen, I noticed a mark... which I just assumed was a finger mark or something. I wiped it away, and it was gone...
...or so I thought...
A day or so later, I notced that the mark had returned... in exactly the same place. It's in the very upper right hand corner of the screen, to the right of the front facing camera and to the left of the SD card tray.
The mark is in the shape of an elongated 'S'.
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A few things puzzle me about this mark or blemish...
** It can only be easily seen in specific lighting conditions, ie., when the light source is hitting the screen at an oblique angle...
** It's less noticeable in natural daylight, then in artificial light...
** It's totally invisible when that of part of the screen has just been cleaned.
In other words, in order to see this mark/blemish, I have to deliberately 'dirty-up' that part of the screen. Either by rubbing the screen with my thumb or finger to leave some sweaty residue, or by lightly breathing on the screen, the way one would on a pair of spectacles in order to clean them. Indeed, this was how the blemish came to my attention. I normally lightly breathe on the screen, and then wipe it with a soft microfiber cloth. I suspect that the presence of finger grease or breathed water vapour is altering the refractive index of the glass, such that reflected light is making this blemish or flaw visible. But that's just an educated guess... it's been 35 years since I studied optics for my physics 'O' level at school. Funny how some things stay with you though.
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I have appended three screenshots of this strange blemish or mark. It should be noted that getting these shots was extremely difficult, as the light source had to be angled obliquely to the screen of the M8 for the mark to become clearly visible to the camera I was using. I took over sixty shots, and these are the best three.
Ironically, and despite these difficulties, these three shots make the blemish look much worse than it actually is. In normal use, I've got to look really hard for the blemish to actually see it. If you didn't know it was there, you likely wouldn't see it... or you'd just dismiss it as a smudge of grease.
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So, what exactly could this mark or blemish be?
A manufacturing defect of some kind?; Some natural flaw in the Gorrilla Glass?
If this is indeed the case, then I can relax and live with it. The mark is borderline invisible anyway, and doesn't impact my normal use of the device in any way.
Unless it's the portender of something much more serious, such as...
A fracture inside the glass? - And this is what worries me.
It's not a crack (yet... and it may never be)), and when I run my finger nail over the area affected, I can not detect a crack. The glass feels consistently smooth. Whatever it is, it's 'inside' the glass itself.
However, if it is a fracture, then what are the chances of it propagating into a full blown crack at some point in the future?
Have any XDA members seen anything similar on other devices they've owned?
Should I pre-emptively initiate RMA proceedings with HTC before it does becomes a crack? Or am I worrying unnessarily? I know I can get a little OCD/obsessive about details like this, and I tend to loose perspective a little.
So... any thoughts, insights, recommendations or advice would be warmly welcomed.
Thanks in advance.
Rgrds,
Ged.
if it really bothers you, take it back to where you got it from and ask for a replacement.
i don't know exactly what it is, but it does appear to be a defect of some sort.