Root Questions - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there any way to root the tab s 10.5 without tripping this bootloader flag? I want to root but want to be able to return the tablet (and use the warranty) if needed. Is there any root methods that dont require odin that perhaps attack a vunerable app?
How obvious is it when the bootloader is tripped? Does it show something on boot up?

mike240se said:
Is there any way to root the tab s 10.5 without tripping this bootloader flag? I want to root but want to be able to return the tablet (and use the warranty) if needed. Is there any root methods that dont require odin that perhaps attack a vunerable app?
How obvious is it when the bootloader is tripped? Does it show something on boot up?
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If you root you will trigger knox there is no way to stop it at least from my research.

Does Triangle Away work on this device?

Deltadroid said:
Does Triangle Away work on this device?
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Nope since when knox is tripped, it will trip a fuse telling that you trip knox. Theres no way to untrip knox as of now.

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Is there a bypass to root XXUBMJ7 with Knox?

Nowadays in the Netherlands you can only buy the I9195LTE with the XXUBMJ7 firmware, so with Knox.
Is there a bypass / possibility to root and get CWM without getting a problem with Knox?
I ask because I want to flash custom roms and like to use Titanium Backup.
Hope that someone knows a solution.
I'm also new with S4 mini, same firmware as yours. Preparing for root with this metod. Hope it should works. If i'm not wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980
gogsy1975 said:
I'm also new with S4 mini, same firmware as yours. Preparing for root with this metod. Hope it should works. If i'm not wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980
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Yeah.
I saw that thread too.
But I think it will void your warranty (not the biggest problem for me).
And I think it makes adjustments irreversible (correct me if I'm wrong) and that's not what I want.
It works - same firmware - without problems.
fredalf said:
It works - same firmware - without problems.
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And what ist your KNOX status after rooting with this method? After rooting and installing cwm, does flashing cm aswell set KNOX to 0x1?
ZockyMcZock said:
And what ist your KNOX status after rooting with this method? After rooting and installing cwm, does flashing cm aswell set KNOX to 0x1?
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KNOX: 0x1
who cares?
fredalf said:
KNOX: 0x1
who cares?
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people who have a company phone? :victory:
Use kingo
fburgos said:
Use kingo
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it also would void your warranty or at least knox 0x1 on bmj7
Well that's bad news... I though kingo didnt trigger knox
fredalf said:
KNOX: 0x1
who cares?
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Anyone who needs Sammy to replace a piece of faulty hardware.
I would also like an answer on this.
I don't much care for installing CWM/TWRP or custom roms (for now). All I want is to root my wife's i9195 without tripping knox or bricking the phone. The main purpose would be to use apps that require root (TB, SD Maid, etc), get rid of bloatware and make it a bit more battery friendly.
OGroteKoning said:
I would also like an answer on this.
I don't much care for installing CWM/TWRP or custom roms (for now). All I want is to root my wife's i9195 without tripping knox or bricking the phone. The main purpose would be to use apps that require root (TB, SD Maid, etc), get rid of bloatware and make it a bit more battery friendly.
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Check your firmware version (settings -> about phone).
If it's MJ7 or higher, rooting and flashing will trip your knox counter. It's irreversible, and there's no way to prevent it (yet).
If you have old firmware you can root your phone without upping the counter (unless Samsung has hidden something that nobody found out yet).
So if you have older firmware, don't update it.
The method on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980 won't brick your phone.
If you live within the EU you warranty isn't voided by the Knox flag.
There was some thread floating around with proper links and documentation.
rogier666 said:
Anyone who needs Sammy to replace a piece of faulty hardware.
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-mhl wont work if knox is 0x1
-downgrading is not possible "will give u error"
Safe root but it is for GT-I9190
rrgrrg said:
-mhl wont work if knox is 0x1
-downgrading is not possible "will give u error"
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Is mhl working on mini? In wich firmware?
Wrong post, moderator please go ahead and delete this.
fburgos said:
Is mhl working on mini? In wich firmware?
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sorry mate mhl isnt there in the first place didnt know that when i posted
rogier666 said:
If it's MJ7 or higher, rooting and flashing will trip your knox counter. It's irreversible, and there's no way to prevent it (yet).
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And what about this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645471 ?
They claim it works.

[Q] Clarifying questions..

I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
t3tr1s_ said:
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
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Knox isn't really for T-mobile to detect root/custom firmware but for Samsung warranty. A fair amount of people on here have stated that they still sent their phones in to Sammy for warranty and they still got their phones fixed. T-mobile really only look for cracked screens, water damage and that the phone powers on and boots up. Not to say you'll never have an issue but i would say it's not really that big of a deal to trip the Knox counter. Especially if you bought the insurance like Asurion. I don't think they even care if your rooted and ROM'd
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
t3tr1s_ said:
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
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On the old 4.3 firmware yes you can root with Root De La Vega and not trip the Knox counter but once you put ANY custom recovery it will trip the counter. Now on the OTA 4.4.2 that was released on Wednesday, the only 2 current ways to root (TWRP or Philz CWM) will trip the Knox counter no matter what. So until something comes out like an updated ROOT De La Vega, there's no way to even root without tripping the Knox counter.
Also from what i read, RDLV isn't being developed anymore so unless they decide to do something with it for the all the 4.4.2 releases hitting phones these days there may not be anything for a bit to root without tripping knox.
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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That is true for 4.3 but so far you can't on 4.4 from everything I have seen. Do you now of a way to not trip knox on 4.4?
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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Did I miss something? Is there a way to Root 4.4.2 without tripping Knox? I don't care I've tripped Knox the first night i had my N3 but I didn't think there was a way. Kningo and RDLV i thought borked the phones and caused bootloops.
My t-mobile store says that if you root your phone then it voids your warranty, so obviously they won't allow me to upgrade... So I know they check for it.. How is it you guys have stores where they don't seem to care?

[Q] Root and Keep Knox?

I am apparently one of 3 people who actually use Knox... Is there a way to get root without tripping the Knox counter? There are two methods listed in the One-Stop Shop thread, but it looks like both of them disable Knox. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: Forgot to mention that I am on the latest AT&T OTA (MK6). I have flashed plenty of times before, just trying to keep Knox on this phone since it is fresh from warranty service.
Delete.....
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...and say that the root binary...will be detected by knox....even if the root attempt does not trip the counter...
The rom will detect root and flag you constantly...
And here is the bigger problem in my mind...
If you manage to root...without tripping the knox counter...and you use the device normally...
If/when the day comes you need service....the bootloader flash counter will still show a custom binary flash count even though knox does not...and if you attempt to unroot....you will never be able to return to full stock with the official 4.3 loader....(gasping for air )...LOL
Long story short...
Root and Knox do not get along...and your warranty will be gone even if Knox and it's container remain intact...
Leave it stock...IMHO...g
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[Q] Knox bootloader

Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
You will trip knox and loose warranty other than that the same routine. Root , disable or delete knox.Read Here
s0cks said:
Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
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It is impossible to remove the knox bootloader and flash a non-knox bootloader.
It depends on you: do you care about warranty? If yes than use Towelroot because this wont trip knox (not complete 100% safe but most of the users reported it). I dont know if knox trips when you remove system apps/system files. You can live with knox. In my opinion the firmware is not bloated very much but ,again, it's your decision.
If you dont care about warranty you can use the good old way and flash recovery and flash a rootkit.

Is rooting worth it?

I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a root without tripping it?
This is answered in three cf auti root thread.
There's no root without Knox tripping. If tripped you can't go back untripped. It does affect warranty. Technically does not make any difference.

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