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ROOT de la Vega now available for T-Mobile Note3 :)

So... after first being impatient and buying a T-Mobile Note3 on Craigslist to use on AT&T and then later seeing how the bootloader locked AT&T Note3 was rooted by DG and Chainfire I ended up getting a contract renewal with AT&T after all and went with the AT&T Note3.
Now I thought I might try to experiment a little and see if I can replicate that root method on the T-Mobile Note3 because it's so brilliant and doesn't trigger the Know warranty void flag.
I can confirm it works just as well on the T-Mobile Note3 !!
ALL CREDIT for the method goes to DesignGears and Chainfire! The Original Thread is HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
All steps are exactly the same. THIS IS ONLY FOR N900TUVUBMI7 firmware, so that must be the current one installed on your phone.
Please follow all steps in the original AT&T thread, just skip the oneclick.exe and start with flashing the root_de_la_vega.tar using ODIN.
There is not really a need to so this if you already rooted with the AutoRoot method and triggered the Knox flag. This is for the careful guys who have NOT rooted yet, only want root (no custom ROM or recovery) and would rather like to preserve that Know Warranty 0x0 Flag
Link to the needed file for T-Mobile Note3 is HERE:
http://www.electron73.org/XDA/N900T/ROOT_DE_LA_VEGA-TMO.ZIP
Enjoy

Nice! If I wanted to go stock again, can I just flash the stock firmware in odin and it wont trip the knox flag?

lm that guy said:
Nice! If I wanted to go stock again, can I just flash the stock firmware in odin and it wont trip the knox flag?
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Unfortunatley, once you trip the Knox Flag you can't untrip it - doing Odin to Stock will return you to stock but it does not remove the Knox flag...once it's tripped - it's tripped.

mocsab said:
Unfortunatley, once you trip the Knox Flag you can't untrip it - doing Odin to Stock will return you to stock but it does not remove the Knox flag...once it's tripped - it's tripped.
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Oh no I haven't tripped my Knox flag yet I was asking if I use this method to root and I wanted to go back to stock later down the road, Will I trip the Knox flag if i odin the official stock firmware?

Its good to have this method available for those who are very conscious of Knox falg/warranty. Personally:
I will be doing a full root on my second N3. I have to; in the memory of my first N3... RIP where ever you are now.

lm that guy said:
Oh no I haven't tripped my Knox flag yet I was asking if I use this method to root and I wanted to go back to stock later down the road, Will I trip the Knox flag if i odin the official stock firmware?
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I am not positive - but I think if you flash anything - it will trip it - if you odin back to stock - it would include a new kernel and that would tirp the flag - I may be wrong - but I believe I read this the other day.
WHy would you want to return to stock? To return the phone or something if something went wrong? Maybe there is another way to remove root.?

I dont think you even have to remove root. There will be now ay to tell if you are rooted using that method. Unless you use app that ask you SU permission. So before return just do Factory Reset. That i think should take care of things. IMHO.

lm that guy said:
Oh no I haven't tripped my Knox flag yet I was asking if I use this method to root and I wanted to go back to stock later down the road, Will I trip the Knox flag if i odin the official stock firmware?
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No, if you ODIN back to full stock or do a factory reset/wipe the Knox flag will NOT be triggered. That flag only triggers if you install a CUSTOM recovery or kernel (custom rom).

For the Galaxy S3, there's also a "no trip root" thread where you simply flash a root-injected TouchWhiz, which I used, and as long as you never flash anything non-Samsung in ODIN, you'll never trip the flash counter flag (which can be reset with TriangleAway anyway, unlike the KNOX flag afaik). But, once rooted, you don't need ODIN, and flashing TWRP recovery via the GooManager app (or dd'ing the img over the recovery partition) doesn't trip the flag, nor does subsequent ROM flashes from recovery over the system partition.
Is it the same situation here, or is the KNOX flag different, in that it will always get tripped as soon as it sees an unsigned partition on bootup?

Darn.. Wish I came upon this like 2 days after I had my TMO note 3. Ive already tripped my Knox. Oh well.

Has anybody tested this method. Does it work
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DriftorX said:
Darn.. Wish I came upon this like 2 days after I had my TMO note 3. Ive already tripped my Knox. Oh well.
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The one thing that will eventually have me tripping my Knox flag is if a nice custom kernel comes along. But until then, a simple way to root without tripping the flag will hold me over :fingers-crossed:. Also I'm returning my phone in a week so it's important I don't trip it right now. I want to root and play around with my phone until then.
bbh4r4l said:
Has anybody tested this method. Does it work
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I will test in about 10 minutes when my phone gets finished charging to 100% and will report back. :laugh:
Edit: everything works Thanks OP for posting this!!

Just rooted via this method. It worked fine and knox is stil 0x0. It also didn't factory reset my phone like I thought it would, I'm going to do it anyway, but I wasn't getting any FCs or anything either. Thank you for getting this out to us TMO users!

I don't get it. Rooting doesn't trip knox regardless. But flashing a custom kernel or rom does. So what is the point of this method if it will trip knox as soon as you flash a kernel or rom anyway.

HughesNet said:
I don't get it. Rooting doesn't trip knox regardless. But flashing a custom kernel or rom does. So what is the point of this method if it will trip knox as soon as you flash a kernel or rom anyway.
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For one you can use apps that require root. Also, you can uninstall bloatware and push apks to your phone using adb etc. A little more work than flashing a prebuilt custom rom, but you can get many of the same results.
*You also said rooting doesn't trip knox regardless, but it actually does unless you do it via this method.

Just did this. Easy as cake. Now I just need to sim unlock my note to use my ATT sim and I will be good to go!!

effortless said:
For one you can use apps that require root. Also, you can uninstall bloatware and push apks to your phone using adb etc. A little more work than flashing a prebuilt custom rom, but you can get many of the same results.
*You also said rooting doesn't trip knox regardless, but it actually does unless you do it via this method.
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I know you don't need a custom rom for some things. I run stock deodex myself. I flashed custom recovery immediately after root. I guess I thought that is what triggered knox. Either way matters little to me though. I know tmobile won't check knox counter if I use jump and even if they did I could sell on ebay and come out ahead. So I don't really understand why people worry about it. Insurance covers it if you damage it or need warranty service.

HughesNet said:
I know you don't need a custom rom for some things. I run stock deodex myself. I flashed custom recovery immediately after root. I guess I thought that is what triggered knox. Either way matters little to me though. I know tmobile won't check knox counter if I use jump and even if they did I could sell on ebay and come out ahead. So I don't really understand why people worry about it. Insurance covers it if you damage it or need warranty service.
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Yeah... Seems to me like a kinda-sorta placebo effect or simply one of those things that people can use who *must* have everything completely untraceable to the "T." Like you said, there's virtually no "real" reason this is very necessary, far's I can tell... But, regardless, good work on this - without a doubt - and definitely always a big "plus" to have multiple working methods! :good:

HughesNet said:
I don't get it. Rooting doesn't trip knox regardless. But flashing a custom kernel or rom does. So what is the point of this method if it will trip knox as soon as you flash a kernel or rom anyway.
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exactly. I think op might not know everything like he is implying. he just wants some attention
*****es be be like "nice phone"

mocsab said:
I am not positive - but I think if you flash anything - it will trip it - if you odin back to stock - it would include a new kernel and that would tirp the flag - I may be wrong - but I believe I read this the other day.
WHy would you want to return to stock? To return the phone or something if something went wrong? Maybe there is another way to remove root.?
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If people read up on how KNOX actually works, there wouldn't be so much confusion.
The KNOX WARRANTY VOID flag is set to 0x1 when the bootloader detects (via Qualcomm SecureBoot) that you are booting either a kernel or a recovery that isn't SELinux enforcing (it displays a message such as RECOVERY IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING - Set Warranty Bit: recovery). It remembers that the partition you booted was insecure and flags it in its own little memory area. It sets individual warranty bits for each partition - boot (kernel), recovery, cache (if you happen to put something there that it doesn't approve of), system. If ANY of those partition warranty bits are set, the KNOX WARRANTY VOID flag is set to 0x1.
This is all explained in the KNOX white paper available on the Samsung web site.
Now, if someone figures out how to write-enable the protected flash area so the flag can be reset AND disable Qualcomm SecureBoot so that it doesn't set the flag over and over again, we'll be in business. For now, only Samsung knows how to do it.

[Q] Triangle Away on S4 Mini 9192

I know the S4 Mini is not on Triangle Away supported device list but I want to know if someone already try/test it on 9192 model?

As S4 mini devices have no (accessible) flash counter, TA won't work either for resetting as well as just showing the counter.
^This is due to some posts concerning i9195 where TA won't show any flash counter value. It's very likely that on the Duo Version the same will appear but would be nice if s someone can proof it with a i9192 just for being sure [emoji2]

traceless said:
As S4 mini devices have no (accessible) flash counter, TA won't work either for resetting as well as just showing the counter.
^This is due to some posts concerning i9195 where TA won't show any flash counter value. It's very likely that on the Duo Version the same will appear but would be nice if s someone can proof it with a i9192 just for being sure [emoji2]
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There is any other way to reset warranty counter?

Sydnelson said:
There is any oher way to reset warranty counter?
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Currently I don't know any way to reset that. Also, rooting or flashing custom ROMs will trip Knox and this will result in permanent warranty void (There's towelroot out there that should not trip knox but i didn't try it yet).
So if you are going to use custom kernels or ROMs even when TA would work, it's useless unfortunately.

traceless said:
Currently I don't know any way to reset that. Also, rooting or flashing custom ROMs will trip Knox and this will result in permanent warranty void (There's towelroot out there that should not trip knox but i didn't try it yet).
So if you are going to use custom kernels or ROMs even when TA would work, it's useless unfortunately.
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towelroot is safe for KNOX 0X0 status. The flash counter and "custom status" are easy to fix.
I updated to KK and rooted with towelroot, "official status" until now

Always great if someone confirms that this software works! Do you own an i9195 or the duos? And what did you installed with your new root?

traceless said:
Always great if someone confirms that this software works! Do you own an i9195 or the duos? And what did you installed with your new root?
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I have a i9192 model. I try CM11 when I flag knox.
Last night I try KK 4.4.2 official rom from russia but wi-fi doesn't work and now I'm testing carbon rom.
Carbon is fast and nice but I miss Touchwiz colors and interface.

[Q] Knox bootloader

Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.

You will trip knox and loose warranty other than that the same routine. Root , disable or delete knox.Read Here
s0cks said:
Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
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It is impossible to remove the knox bootloader and flash a non-knox bootloader.
It depends on you: do you care about warranty? If yes than use Towelroot because this wont trip knox (not complete 100% safe but most of the users reported it). I dont know if knox trips when you remove system apps/system files. You can live with knox. In my opinion the firmware is not bloated very much but ,again, it's your decision.
If you dont care about warranty you can use the good old way and flash recovery and flash a rootkit.

[Q] Unroot can trigger the KNOX?

First of all, sorry for my bad english :silly:
I just rooted my tablet with the towelroot, and i used the phone INFO to see if my tablet was KNOX triggered, and it was not :fingers-crossed:
So after that i was thinking if is possible to unroot the tablet without changing the KNOX?
And if its possible, can you please give me a link to the process?
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version

Raziel Harmony said:
First of all, sorry for my bad english :silly:
I just rooted my tablet with the towelroot, and i used the phone INFO to see if my tablet was KNOX triggered, and it was not :fingers-crossed:
So after that i was thinking if is possible to unroot the tablet without changing the KNOX?
And if its possible, can you please give me a link to the process?
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version
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First, you need to boot into Odin (download) mode to see if Knox is triggered. You can't use Phone Info to see if Knox triggered. Knox is only triggered when you root, not when you unroot. If you rooted and knox is not triggered, when you unroot it should be the same.

buhohitr said:
First, you need to boot into Odin (download) mode to see if Knox is triggered. You can't use Phone Info to see if Knox triggered. Knox is only triggered when you root, not when you unroot. If you rooted and knox is not triggered, when you unroot it should be the same.
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Thanks for the help buhohitr
I used the ODIN mode and it says that the KNOX was not triggered :victory:
Now i can use my tablet with no worries
And about the the phone INFO,i was referring to the app(phone INFO Samsung) but i didnt explained very well, sorry

Haven't been on this forum for a while, did someone figure out how to root without tripping Knox? Not that it matters, I've already tripped mine.
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RussellEstridge25 said:
Haven't been on this forum for a while, did someone figure out how to root without tripping Knox? Not that it matters, I've already tripped mine.
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Hi RussellEstridge o/
As far as i know the the towelroot is one of a few methods that can root your Android without triggering it...
One of the good things about this root is that he doesn't need a computer to do the process.
Well, I hope you find a method to solve your situation... Good luck :fingers-crossed:

Raziel Harmony said:
First of all, sorry for my bad english :silly:
I just rooted my tablet with the towelroot, and i used the phone INFO to see if my tablet was KNOX triggered, and it was not :fingers-crossed:
So after that i was thinking if is possible to unroot the tablet without changing the KNOX?
And if its possible, can you please give me a link to the process?
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version
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You can flash the stock firmware for P605

tcntad said:
You can flash the stock firmware for P605
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OK, thanks for the help tcntad o/ :highfive:

Even though Knox trip flag = 0x1 if I restore a non-rooted stock rom...

... will Knox features work again? Such as secure folders?
I honestly don't care much about these features. I much prefer having access to Ad-Away. But if I do use Odin to flash a stock ROM (Without re-rooting) on the phone, even though my Knox flag is still tripped will Knox features work again?
Thanks

azzicles said:
... will Knox features work again? Such as secure folders?
I honestly don't care much about these features. I much prefer having access to Ad-Away. But if I do use Odin to flash a stock ROM (Without re-rooting) on the phone, even though my Knox flag is still tripped will Knox features work again?
Thanks
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Once Knox is tripped it will always be tripped, you can no longer access the Knox features and I also believe that the Android/Samsung Pay system will no longer work

trickie69r said:
Once Knox is tripped it will always be tripped, you can no longer access the Knox features and I also believe that the Android/Samsung Pay system will no longer work
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I am ignorant when it comes to rooting etc... so, just reiterating. If I root my phone, it will trip the knox? And Ill never be able to go back to full stock... Is that where you're saying? :/

androidcentralsucks said:
I am ignorant when it comes to rooting etc... so, just reiterating. If I root my phone, it will trip the knox? And Ill never be able to go back to full stock... Is that where you're saying? :/
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You can go back to full stock but rooting will trip Knox and this cannot be undone which will prevent Knox related features from working (i.e Samsung Pay etc..).
You also run the risk of not getting Warranty support if Knox is tripped.
Hope that helps.

trickie69r said:
You can go back to full stock but rooting will trip Knox and this cannot be undone which will prevent Knox related features from working (i.e Samsung Pay etc..).
You also run the risk of not getting Warranty support if Knox is tripped.
Hope that helps.
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It does!! I had no idea there was no way to go back 100%... =/ That SUCKS!

well, it is for security reasons, only a really small number of people root their phones, small compared to the total number of devices out there.....

winol said:
well, it is for security reasons, only a really small number of people root their phones, small compared to the total number of devices out there.....
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Right.. I am seeing that... I do a lot of penetration testing etc, and some of the software I want to use requires root. I have this stuff on my laptop and other devices, but would like to have the option to utilize it on my phone as well.
Just stinks you can't reset it back..