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i mean is there a benefit to doing it over the data part? only diff i'm aware of is that (in this case, street view) putting an app in the system bit means i can't update it and as i can't get adb working on my PC, then i have to :
backup all my apps, barr those in system, flash a new rom (but remove the apks from the zip file), then reinstall all apps again
i need google street view and since adb doesnt work, this is the only way that i know of how to do this.
They're put on /system/app as that's where they originally live...if it's an app from the Market it will update itself correctly
It's also a space thing as if they were all on /data/app then you'd eat up your space in no time (unless using A2SD)
umm, ok stupid queston, why is it then no matter whose rom i try (here or modaco), if an app is on /system it is never updated? i *always* get an error during installation
few weeks back, it was google maps, now it's the updated street view.
i've flashed a new rom now but removed street.apk from the zip and can now install just fine, and can update as needs be.
I dunno, I'm stock and just today had Flash and Maps update automatically
If your system apps won't update there's something wrong with your custom ROM.
it wouldn't just be me then though?
i'm using leedroids latest and that's not updating, same with opendesire earlier on, modaco ones etc etc
Are you wiping before you install the ROMs? I've never had a problem updating system apps via the market in my ROM.
of course. full wipe
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of course. full wipe
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just uninstall the app and re-install it from market
You can't if its on the system partition. Updates go on the /data/ partition, though...
Other way is to get the APK in question and install it using a file manager, it'll do the same thing
uninstalling also isn't allowed, neither is updating. it seems that once it's there, it's there.
now, i've got adb working and can list what's in system etc but it gave a read only error when i was trying to 'rm Street.apk'
remount didn't appear to be a valid option. alls working now anyways. just need to remember to remove certain apks from a zip before flashing.
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You *can* update system apps with market updates, as has been said before. The app remains on the system partition and the phone uses the data version instead. If it's not working for you I don't know why, but it's absolutely fine for me.
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
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So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
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Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
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Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
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Thats great for you, and i appreciate that you do that with your rom +mods, but it means relying on you. Would be good if android would have it as an inbuilt function.
But i guess with newer phones having increased internal storage + a2sd this won't be an issue for much longer.
It's never going to happen as part of standard Android, because the system partition is read only. Also the system has to be a set standard in order to allow upgrades to work.
Hello everyone.
I've recently switched to the Data++ Hboot with 10MB cache. Ever since then I haven't been able to download large apps from the Market.
I was wondering how to make the Market save the APK's on the SD Card instead of the cache partition. If I remember correctly this has been implemented in a number of ROMs, including the Oxygen ROM to name one. Where would I change that?
Sorry for deviating from the topic, but I have this strong urge to ask you this: How did you get 10MB cache with Data++? According to alpharev.nl, Data++ gives 5MB cache....
On a side note, I also have 10MB cache but my apps are installing fine (with a little help from A2SD).....how big are the apps you're trying to download? Maybe I haven't come across "big" ones yet...
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Sorry for deviating from the topic, but I have this strong urge to ask you this: How did you get 10MB cache with Data++? According to alpharev.nl, Data++ gives 5MB cache....
On a side note, I also have 10MB cache but my apps are installing fine (with a little help from A2SD).....how big are the apps you're trying to download? Maybe I haven't come across "big" ones yet...
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Oh I see they've updated their website. I'm using an older version of Data++ (System 180M, Cache 10M, Data 261M). I still have the img plus a screenshot of the website to compare MD5, if you're interested.
Well, it was just a guess. Downloads to Angry Birds (both versions) and Rocket Bunnies are not working, to name a few. Since they're all over 10MB I assumed it was due to the smaller cache partition. I'm also using A2SD btw.
Hmmm,they are not too big then (was expecting 20+MB).....I just downloaded those two apps couple of hours ago on my one and it's running fine even though I've only got 10MB cache.
Normally you'd need a file manager (like the one with Titanium backup or root explorer) to do the job of moving .apk files to SD..these are normally stored in /data/app inside the internal memory and requires root access to get them...but the files must be downloaded in the first place.
Is your system up-to-date? I too had similar problems until I did a complete flash-over and updated everything.... unfortunately I didn't work out the cause of it
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Hmmm,they are not too big then (was expecting 20+MB).....I just downloaded those two apps couple of hours ago on my one and it's running fine even though I've only got 10MB cache.
Normally you'd need a file manager (like the one with Titanium backup or root explorer) to do the job of moving .apk files to SD..these are normally stored in /data/app inside the internal memory and requires root access to get them...but the files must be downloaded in the first place.
Is your system up-to-date? I too had similar problems until I did a complete flash-over and updated everything.... unfortunately I didn't work out the cause of it
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Oh I see, I was under the impression the apks get saved on the cache partition. In that case, I should look for the problem elsewhere. Yes, I'm running the latest Sense ROM (2.29 with the 5 ending), but modified to suit my needs. I guess it could be related to that.
More info about the 'non-downloading'. When I click on install in the Market, the download icon appears quickly in the notification bar and then quickly disappears. Was this the same problem you were having?
In short....yes...that was the main sympton I had....the download icon disappears quickly....and it only happened to some of the apps
Have you tried rebooting the phone?...
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In short....yes...that was the main sympton I had....the download icon disappears quickly....and it only happened to some of the apps
Have you tried rebooting the phone?...
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Yes, tried that. Also tried clearing the dalvik cache and cache but with no success. I have found this while looking for a solution on Google. Seems someone else is having the exact same problem.
tkm89 said:
Yes, tried that. Also tried clearing the dalvik cache and cache but with no success. I have found this while looking for a solution on Google. Seems someone else is having the exact same problem.
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Hmm, yea. The thing that's really frustrating is I still don't know what the problem was in my case..if I did I could've been a little bit more helpful. In my "rage" I just flashed a new kernel and a new ROM and that sorted out the problem for me....didn't stop to wonder what was actually causing it.
EDIT: I think changing the kernel, especially, did it for me...
Hmm…
I have the same problem (except my /cache is 3MB so I can't download files larger than that).
Funny though, it used to work just fine (I have Angry Birds and flash for example), it has only recently started to act up.
If anyone finds a solution (possibly without flashing), I'll be quite grateful
P.S.
When my download fails (downloading icon simply disappears), my logcat shows DownloadManager reporting that there is not enough space (with about 60MB on /data) and then Vending complains about the file not being found (because DownloadManager didn't download it).
Seems like a bug in DownloadManager to me. It probably doesn't look up the cache (mine is in /data/cache IIRC) but uses the free space on /cache to determine if there is enough to fit the .apk.
I'm now working on same think. Need to Market downloading apps to SD card instead of /cache. So is there any tweak for this?
Yep.
Requires a little bit of knowledge about how linux handles mount points.
Basically, the easiest way is to bind mount a folder on the sdcard/data to /cache.
I get this .. I just clear the market cache ... go back into the market , all fine .
I normally have to " download " stuff 3 times , before it installs.
Hey, okay so I'm having this annoying problem with the android market not downloading my apps. I would click install, then it will say your item will be downloaded, then it will start downloading but then disappear and stop. What's even more weird is that it doesn't happen for all apps, some of them do download. I have tried going to settings, market, and clear data and cache. Also, the same thing with the download manager still no luck. I am running a custom rom (Stock Turbo) however, this problem was persistent in my original stock rom too. I think it has something to do with the new android market. 2.2.7. Any ideas? Thanks. Btw, I have a HTC Evo.
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Hey, okay so I was reading, and I discovered the with the custom rom I have the dalvik is moved to the /cache space. Apparently, the market also uses the /cache space when temporarily downloading apps. That could explain why I can only download smaller apps. So could this be the problem? Also, is there a way to move the dalvik back to the phone's memory, or am I better off just flashing another rom?
Wow, okay, so I'm replying to my own posts ahha, but anyway, I looked in logcat, and realized, that I get the error d/downloadmanager: downlaod aborted not enough free space. So definitly have to do with the /cache right?
my phone did this to me before i even rooted. try clearing the market cache and restarting.
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my phone did this to me before i even rooted. try clearing the market cache and restarting.
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Sorry, still didn't work
I had this same problem a few months ago and did find a fix somewhere online. I have the link saved on my laptop at home, if no one posts it before I get home Ill post it here for you.
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Wow, okay, so I'm replying to my own posts ahha, but anyway, I looked in logcat, and realized, that I get the error d/downloadmanager: downlaod aborted not enough free space. So definitly have to do with the /cache right?
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Yes, if your /cache partition is full, it will cause issues downloading from the market. I saw that at one point.
Since you mentioned logcat, I assume you have the SDK and adb ready to go. You can confirm if your cache dir is full with the following (from windows. You can also drop "adb shell" and run it from terminal on the device).
adb shell df -k /cache
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Yes, if your /cache partition is full, it will cause issues downloading from the market. I saw that at one point.
Since you mentioned logcat, I assume you have the SDK and adb ready to go. You can confirm if your cache dir is full with the following (from windows. You can also drop "adb shell" and run it from terminal on the device).
adb shell df -k /cache
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Hey thanks for the info. Actually, I just got a little impatient and went on, and installed another custom rom where the dalvik is not moved to the cache portion. That seemed to do the trick. With this new rom I have 152 mb of space available in the chache. (checking from adb)
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I had this same problem a few months ago and did find a fix somewhere online. I have the link saved on my laptop at home, if no one posts it before I get home Ill post it here for you.
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Thanks, I appreciate the help, but I solved my problem by installing another custom rom without the dalvik moved to the /cache. Seems to be working now. lol
Be it an apk from my sd card or from google play. It doesn't matter what size it is. Some will install fine some will claim i need to free up space.
And i have 1.1gb free + link2sd linking bigger files to my sd card.
Why would some things not install?
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sitting at 1.9gb free
just deleted backup apks and rebooted and still no go.
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Be it an apk from my sd card or from google play. It doesn't matter what size it is. Some will install fine some will claim i need to free up space.
And i have 1.1gb free + link2sd linking bigger files to my sd card.
Why would some things not install?
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sitting at 1.9gb free
just deleted backup apks and rebooted and still no go.
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do you have any stray .odex files in your /data/app directory from say lucky patcher?
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do you have any stray .odex files in your /data/app directory from say lucky patcher?
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Nothing but apk files in the folder
NiMaD83 said:
Nothing but apk files in the folder
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Have you tried disabling link2sd?
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Have you tried disabling link2sd?
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Disabling or un-installing? If not the same what is just disabling? Cause wouldn't that stop the other apps that are linked not to work?
It's also doing this on some (still random and not all) updates too :/
Just unlinked all apps and uninstalled Link2Sd and rebooted. Nothing has changed.
I really dont want to flash a new rom... AGAIN
-im on [ROM]KOT49H【4.4.2】AOSP official Google Edition
GT-I9505G
4.4.2
M919UVUEMK2
kernel
3.4.0-gba1b939
[email protected] #2
Build
KOT49H.03.04.2014
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And my original is a SGH-M919
So this seriously has to be the issue or maybe the kernel?
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not sure if this matters but i do have a modded google play store as to ensure some games work.
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*dupe post
And my original is a SGH-M919
So this seriously has to be the issue or maybe the kernel?
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not sure if this matters but i do have a modded google play store as to ensure some games work.
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The modded play store could be messing with it. Especially if Google Play tries to update itself (which is does without telling you) might even mess with the edits. You would have to get a logcat when you try to install something that says there's not enough storage space. The package manager should throw some sort of code to let us know whats going on.
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The modded play store could be messing with it. Especially if Google Play tries to update itself (which is does without telling you) might even mess with the edits. You would have to get a logcat when you try to install something that says there's not enough storage space. The package manager should throw some sort of code to let us know whats going on.
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Tried to install logcat and it gave me the same error lol
This happens when you have a corrupt data Dir for the app.
Use Root Explorer or something similar, and go to data/data and look for the app folder that is giving you the error message and delete the app folder.
You should be able to reinstall the app.
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I got Catlog installed and here are the logs from 2 that I saved.
I was trying to install Sixaxis_Controller_0_7_4.apk
2014-03-07-21-01-56.txt
2014-03-07-20-59-01.txt
rjohnstone said:
This happens when you have a corrupt data Dir for the app.
Use Root Explorer or something similar, and go to data/data and look for the app folder that is giving you the error message and delete the app folder.
You should be able to reinstall the app.
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Thanks but there is no folder in relation to this app. And I get the same error when trying fresh apps never before installed. Its very very random to even the size, which leans towards smaller sized.
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I got Catlog installed and here are the logs from 2 that I saved.
I was trying to install Sixaxis_Controller_0_7_4.apk
2014-03-07-21-01-56.txt
2014-03-07-20-59-01.txt
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This is interesting
Code:
No content provider found for permission revoke: file:///mnt/extSdCard/Sixaxis_Controller_0_7_4.apk
But other than that. Im not sure whats going on. Try turning off xposed I also think its link2sd but you said you disabled it so i really am not sure
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This is interesting
Code:
No content provider found for permission revoke: file:///mnt/extSdCard/Sixaxis_Controller_0_7_4.apk
But other than that. Im not sure whats going on. Try turning off xposed I also think its link2sd but you said you disabled it so i really am not sure
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I put back OG Google Play 4.4.21 and rebooted same thing.
-wierd not on this, up top in the Installer cracked Google Play. Up to pis shows System Rom (/system): -1375mb (-1904mb free)
I uninstalled the framwork for Exposed in the Exposed Installer and rebooted, same thing (modules unchecked)
Just uninstalled the Installer and the XuiMod and rebooted ......... same thing.
Time for a new rom i guess.
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I put back OG Google Play 4.4.21 and rebooted same thing.
-wierd not on this, up top in the Installer cracked Google Play. Up to pis shows System Rom (/system): -1375mb (-1904mb free)
I uninstalled the framwork for Exposed in the Exposed Installer and rebooted, same thing (modules unchecked)
Just uninstalled the Installer and the XuiMod and rebooted ......... same thing.
Time for a new rom i guess.
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Stuff isn't installed to the system. Your apps are installed to the /data so it doesn't matter how much free space is in /system.
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Hi all,
Just wanted to start by saying, big thanks to DooMLoRD and the rest of the xda-developers forum for providing me the tools to get root access to a friends phone, who has recently accidentally deleted all their photos and videos. If we are successful, I'll definitely be suggesting that they make a donation to Doom for his epic contributions
I'm trying to help them recover the lost media. I know that typically performing data recovery on a phone requires root access, so I have gone ahead and done this. On with...
My question:
I've got an Xperia S running Jellybean (4.1.2) which is rooted. However attempting to use my data recovery tools on the phone, the device is not shown as a storage device. As you may well be aware, the S does not come with external storage. The S also has the 'mass storage mode' removed. Nice one Sony, give professionals another reason to avoid your products in the future...
I don't want to Flash the phone since any added files will start destroying the potentially recoverable data (plus I'd simply rather not format the phone if possible).
Is it possible to mount the internal storage of the Sony Xperia S as a drive so that I can run my PC based data recovery tools on it?
I imagine App Store apps are too lightweight to handle a file-based undeletion. If I could just see the device in my recovery apps I'm sure I'd be in business! I've attempted Recuva and R-Studio.
Doing some more research (like a good little n00b) I imagine I'm going to need SD Mounter.
I'm a little thrown off because 'SD' usually describes SD cards (of which the Xperia S has none). Also, the screenshots (for SD mounter) seem to indicate it's for ICS so I'm not sure if there's going to be a compatibility issue there.
Am I barking up the wrong tree by making this assumption? Should JellyBean have access to the mass storage and the option is simply not showing for some reason? Anyway, I'll continue working under my assumptions until someone suggests otherwise...
To get SD Mounter running, I'm going to need BusyBox. The problem is, I'm trying to read the BusyBox installation FAQ, and I'm finding it very vague. Like...
and save it under the name "busybox"
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but it does not specify WHERE. Make a folder called 'busybox' on the root folder of the phone? Somewhere on my PC (the page suggests its for the PC rather than the phone)? Also I'm seeing Linux-looking command lines, but I'm on a PC... can I run this via the command prompt in Windows? I downloaded the 'binaries' like it said, but there aren't any executables in here...
Can anyone shed some light?
There's an app called BusyBox Installer, that installs it correctly on my Xperia S. That SD Mounter app works perfectly on 4.1.2, though. I use time to time. It just messes up a bit with Media Scanner, requiring me to do a reboot on the phone to make it work again.
I wish you lot of luck trying to recover your files. I once tried something like that, but came unsuccessful. There were some media I wish I had saved, but it wasn't THAT important, so I just gave up.
Suggest to your friend, though, to get an account on Mega, Box.net or Dropbox. All of them has auto backup of camera media to the server. All of them has options to backup only on WiFi, and even when charging only. The first two has 50 Gb of free storage for life (Box, you just need to sign with your Xperia device), and the later only 2 Gb, but you can get more and more with promotions.
Alternatively, he can enable the Google+ Auto Backup. There is 15 Gb (shared with Gmail and Google Drive) for pictures on original resolution or unlimited on 2048px, compressed. On Google+, though, you have the Auto Awesome, which make some awesome images.
Hope it helped. If I can help any further, just tag me
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Hey Felimenta97, thanks for your swift response!
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There's an app called BusyBox Installer...
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I see 'BusyBox Installer' in the Play Store, is that the one? Seems strange that the Play Store would add an app that requires rooting. Just wanna make sure I shouldn't be looking for it somewhere else (plus I'm away from that phone at the moment)
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It just messes up a bit with Media Scanner, requiring me to do a reboot on the phone to make it work again.
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That's okay. I've warned them this process might even brick their entire phone. They are prepared (I hope) for complete loss/compromised apps
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...I wish you lot of luck trying to recover your files. I once tried something like that, but came unsuccessful...
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*touches wood*. Gah I'm suddenly 10 times less confident this file recovery is gonna work. Wish me luck! They'll be crushed if I can't get their media back...
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...get an account on Mega, Box.net or Dropbox...
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Oh trust me, I've already given them the lecture
Thanks for your help!
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Hey Felimenta97, thanks for your swift response!
I see 'BusyBox Installer' in the Play Store, is that the one? Seems strange that the Play Store would add an app that requires rooting. Just wanna make sure I shouldn't be looking for it somewhere else (plus I'm away from that phone at the moment)
That's okay. I've warned them this process might even brick their entire phone. They are prepared (I hope) for complete loss/compromised apps
*touches wood*. Gah I'm suddenly 10 times less confident this file recovery is gonna work. Wish me luck! They'll be crushed if I can't get their media back...
Oh trust me, I've already given them the lecture
Thanks for your help!
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As I'm a lazy person, who can't find a way to break quotes into multiple parts (serious, how do you Do that, without having to write the quote code every time? It is not much, but I'm really lazy, so yeah.
Yep, that's the app. There's no reason for Google to block root apps. It's a function of the OS itself, just hidden from users. It's one of the easiest things to do on a Nexus device, after all. It's hidden because, if used without caution, can soft brick your device. But, don't worry, that shouldn't do any harm. At it least it hasn't with my device until now haha
As I said, I had already lost lots of stuff, and I didn't bothered much to go any further to recover it. It was a simply Install Recuva, run on the SD card and see if I could restore anything. Nothing? OK, no worries. As you already mentioned in your first post, avoid at all costs writing new files to the SD Card partition.
About the lecture, yeah, I imagined you had already told them, but it doesn't hurt to tell anyway.
About the SD Card on the Xperia S, another technical info you might or might not know, and also doesn't hurt to tell. Until Android 2.3, devices with a big internal storage required a partition for cache, one for data (apps and their own data), one for system, and one SD Card. The last one in Fat32 (plus others, but those are just too small and insignificant, for most, anyway) Think of a normal hard drive with plenty of partitions. Since Xperia S was developed (and launched) with 2.3 (one of Sony's biggest mistakes with this phone), it had to follow those "guidelines".
With Android 4.0 and beyond, the above mentioned data and SD Card turned into one partition, in Ext4 format. That data partition stores both apps and their data, and also other types of media, like media, documents, and etc. That storage goes into a mounted folder.
Anyway, again, wish you good luck. If they aren't very close friends/relatives, you should charge some money for all the hassle if you recover haha
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how do you Do that, without having to write the quote code every time?
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Haha, actually I still kinda do. #hen I hit 'reply' I empty the quote block, copy the empty quote block a few times, then copy-paste the parts of the text I'm replying to as I go
Felimenta97 said:
avoid at all costs writing new files to the SD Card partition.
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Yeah absolutely.
Felimenta97 said:
Until Android 2.3, devices with a big internal storage required a partition for cache, one for data (apps and their own data), one for system, and one SD Card
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Jeaz. Thank god I don't have to eff around with that!
Felimenta97 said:
With Android 4.0 and beyond, the above mentioned data and SD Card turned into one partition, in Ext4 format. That data partition stores both apps and their data, and also other types of media, like media, documents, and etc. That storage goes into a mounted folder.
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I don't need to re-format the internal storage of the phone to attempt recovery do I?
Thanks again Felimenta!
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Haha, actually I still kinda do. #hen I hit 'reply' I empty the quote block, copy the empty quote block a few times, then copy-paste the parts of the text I'm replying to as I go
Yeah absolutely.
Jeaz. Thank god I don't have to eff around with that!
I don't need to re-format the internal storage of the phone to attempt recovery do I?
Thanks again Felimenta!
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Not in Xperia S case. As I said, it is on Fat32, so it is easily mount-able on Windows.
On any phone with Android 4.0 or more, you'd need a Linux to do the recovery. You can't format it, or else you will turn the device into a really expensive paperweight.
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