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[POLL]Do you wait for S-Off or Unlock through htcdev.com?

I am in a dilemma with my one x, whether to wait until s-off is here or to unlock the mobile through htcdev.com!
But I am thinking about the warranty, I read that flashing the original RUU will revert the phone to the original state. I am from India, So I think I need the RUU with version 1.26.720.2
Please give me some suggestions!

I also very much want to know the answer to this.

Please vote your wish.
Can't resist to flash the latest custom roms, especially leedroid's

kolaf said:
I also very much want to know the answer to this.
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What's the difference? I unlocked on htcdev.com

When you unlock through htcdev.com there were some drawbacks regarding warranty. But when you unlock using s-off you can easily bring your mobile to factory state for warranty.

Can some one post how exactly we can claim for warranty when we unlock through htcdev.com?

I can't avoid all the features which will work only with rooting. So finally I had unlocked my mobile through htcdev.com

I'd say wait 1 week before you do it, perhaps next week there is already a way to do it ^^. (That warranty is lost forever, so I wouldn't do it impulsively).
Offtopic : you really have a giant signature OP ;-)!

I still waiting for S-Off. As if now I don't need rooted device since i'm enjoying the stock apps and stock ROM. Once i'm tired then I may unlocked.

Im awaiting s-off just for warranty reasons
Mod or Die

I'm torn. I need root to make several things work in Norway....

I am new with htc.i came from Samsung. I am just saying in samsung when u wanted to go back in original mode u just used official roms and boom u were in warranty. Isnt that the same with htc? i just used htcdev method to remove some craps from 3 network but i am sure i could go back to warranty using an RUU.
And as i spoke for RUU is there any topic gathering all the RUU's? Where can i found them?

Normally flash straight away but had it 3 weeks and still resiited so far waiting for s off
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DrAnGeR said:
I am new with htc.i came from Samsung. I am just saying in samsung when u wanted to go back in original mode u just used official roms and boom u were in warranty. Isnt that the same with htc? i just used htcdev method to remove some craps from 3 network but i am sure i could go back to warranty using an RUU.
And as i spoke for RUU is there any topic gathering all the RUU's? Where can i found them?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543604
Just search the topic until you find a functional link.

personally I want S-OFF via htc dev. If they are going to try and void the warranty because the software is being messed with anyway why not give me full access.

i unlocked my phone but i got insurance from my carrier, so should i break it my phone might by accident get a knock out of my hand and over the viaduct lol
but I'm a lucky one and got a flawless HOX so i have no need to return it

It would've been nice to migrate app data from my desire HD to my HOX using titanium, but I guess that won't be possible.
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As much as i get tempted to go through htcdev i'm going to hang on, especially now i got a 1.28 update through Three UK. There are some seriously clever devs here so i'm sure sooner or later an S-OFF will come.

KrisPerry said:
It would've been nice to migrate app data from my desire HD to my HOX using titanium, but I guess that won't be possible.
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What app data do you want to migrate? I only brought my SMS and Bookmarks across with me, using SMS BackupPro and Bookmarks to SD. Don't game a lot, so that was never important...
I am waiting for S-Off. I am actually really happy how my phone works in stock form and sometimes custom ROMs can have one little bug or another, so you are constantly flashing, chasing that perfect and stable ROM.
I will likely want to install custom soon, so if there is no S-Off by mid-year, maybe I'll just go with HTCDev.

I'm wanting S-Off rather than using HTCdev as from following the S-Off Dev thread in here the changing of CID to none rather than the stock HTC CID could hinder going S-Off in the future even with a relock. I also don't feel the need to go Custom ROMing while unbranded handsets are getting things updated by HTC.
I'll wait for a couple of weeks post Kernel source release then make my mind up.
Really difficult coming from.my ENG S-Off Desire HD though.
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[Q] New HTC One -- Where to start?

Browsed the stickies for this stuff, but the closest I found was a pretty old post from before Verizon shut down S-Off.
I have a new HTC One w/ build 1.10.605.8 (Android 4.2.2/Sense 5.0). How far behind is this? Does it mean I have a better chance for exploits to work? I'm making a point of not putting the phone into a position where it might take an OTA. Presumably hacking the phone gets harder with the latest builds.
I would like to root this, if possible. If I can unlock the bootloader that's even better. S-Off not as important, but I'll do it if it's the pathway to an unlocked boot. I'm guessing there are still ways to unlock this (or equivalent) since Big Red shut down our HTC Dev?
Is there a current thread discussing this? Maybe somebody can show me where the latest info is. Or at least tell me what the general strategy is for customizing this device, if it's possible.
I'm pretty comfortable with this stuff; I once had to use a wire to S-Off an HTC Rezound. I just need to know where to go to find the current tools.
I saw references to weaksauce, rumrunner and firewater. Are these current? Can someone steer me toward the latest and greatest???

cpurick said:
Browsed the stickies for this stuff, but the closest I found was a pretty old post from before Verizon shut down S-Off.
I have a new HTC One w/ build 1.10.605.8 (Android 4.2.2/Sense 5.0). How far behind is this? Does it mean I have a better chance for exploits to work? I'm making a point of not putting the phone into a position where it might take an OTA. Presumably hacking the phone gets harder with the latest builds.
I would like to root this, if possible. If I can unlock the bootloader that's even better. S-Off not as important, but I'll do it if it's the pathway to an unlocked boot. I'm guessing there are still ways to unlock this (or equivalent) since Big Red shut down our HTC Dev?
Is there a current thread discussing this? Maybe somebody can show me where the latest info is. Or at least tell me what the general strategy is for customizing this device, if it's possible.
I'm pretty comfortable with this stuff; I once had to use a wire to S-Off an HTC Rezound. I just need to know where to go to find the current tools.
I saw references to weaksauce, rumrunner and firewater. Are these current? Can someone steer me toward the latest and greatest???
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Since you're on 4.2.2 and 5.0 you should be able to use rumrunner.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
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brholt6 said:
Since you're on 4.2.2 and 5.0 you should be able to use rumrunner.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
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Thank you very much.
Looks like this tool sets S-Off? Does that disable/bypass the signature checks in the bootloader, or does it allow install of an alternate bootloader? How do I get from S-Off to a custom ROM?

cpurick said:
Thank you very much.
Looks like this tool sets S-Off? Does that disable/bypass the signature checks in the bootloader, or does it allow install of an alternate bootloader? How do I get from S-Off to a custom ROM?
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Not sure exactly, but once you're s-off you can just flash a recovery via fastboot and then flash a custom Rom through recovery.
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brholt6 said:
Not sure exactly, but once you're s-off you can just flash a recovery via fastboot and then flash a custom Rom through recovery.
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And I can do that even though I can't technically unlock the bootloader?

cpurick said:
And I can do that even though I can't technically unlock the bootloader?
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It will unlock your boot loader.
http://rumrunner.us
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cpurick said:
And I can do that even though I can't technically unlock the bootloader?
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Any luck? In case anyone else has the same question in the future.
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cpurick said:
And I can do that even though I can't technically unlock the bootloader?
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S-Off trumps all. With S-Off you can do anything with your phone, including unlocking the boot loader and custom recoveries.

I used rumrunner because my older build was identified as being vulnerable to that exploit. I'm not sure about the interactions between S-Off and Bootloader because the device+build-specific rumrunner did both S-Off and unlocked BL in addition to rooting it. It says "unlock" but the experience looked like an engineering bootloader had been installed. The phone acquired a proprietary HTC disclaimer at startup.
If you have an early enough build, I would definitely recommend rumrunner for unlocking it. That program totally pwned the phone.

cpurick said:
I used rumrunner because my older build was identified as being vulnerable to that exploit. I'm not sure about the interactions between S-Off and Bootloader because the device+build-specific rumrunner did both S-Off and unlocked BL in addition to rooting it. It says "unlock" but the experience looked like an engineering bootloader had been installed. The phone acquired a proprietary HTC disclaimer at startup.
If you have an early enough build, I would definitely recommend rumrunner for unlocking it. That program totally pwned the phone.
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The warning comes when you go S-Off. Every HTC One with S-Off does that. Rumrunner did its job.

[Q] S-Off achievable on newest H-Boot and OTA?

I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.

themacman1000 said:
I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.
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You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/

FreydNot said:
You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?

themacman1000 said:
Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.

phil.culler said:
I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.
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Sweet, thank you very much. I'm just a bit tight after buying this phone and having a 1k mile road trip this week. Good to know I can get my root on.

I just did the same thing I love it no more sense or HTC preventing me from running the latest software

themacman1000 said:
Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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Correct, but I preferred to get S-off with sunshine then root and unlock the bootloader without having to get the HTC developer unlock. This way HTC doesn't have any record of the bootloader being unlocked.

[Q] Rooting & Unrooting ease?

It's looking like I'm going to be getting the M8 from T-Mobile this weekend! I usually root my phones and would appreciate some clerification before I make the purchase.
I'd like to unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom, most likely Cyanogenmod. It sounds like it should be something that I could do without too much issues. Just looking for verification.
Also, I've had instances where I've broken or had other issues with my phones and have had to have them replaced. I usually get the insurance due to my increased chances of something happening to the phone. So, how easy is it to unroot to send back for replacement? I read that it might not be possible?
I'm coming from a S4 on Verizon and I know big red likes to lock things down. From what I understand, T-Mobile is more "root" friendly. Thanks in advance for the help!

TMOBILE HTC M8 have just one probleme at the moment is the S-OFF , the methode described by firewater doesn't work for him so you will pay 25$ to get the s-off (sunshine app) ; and for unrouting ,locking , and back to s-on it's verry easy when you are s-off for assistance reasons there is a lot of explanations in this forum :fingers-crossed:

spybit2008 said:
TMOBILE HTC M8 have just one probleme at the moment is the S-OFF , the methode described by firewater doesn't work for him so you will pay 25$ to get the s-off (sunshine app) ; and for unrouting ,locking , and back to s-on it's verry easy when you are s-off for assistance reasons there is a lot of explanations in this forum :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, I did come across that post. I don't mind paying $25 if that goes me going.

ned4spd8874 said:
It's looking like I'm going to be getting the M8 from T-Mobile this weekend! I usually root my phones and would appreciate some clerification before I make the purchase.
I'd like to unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom, most likely Cyanogenmod. It sounds like it should be something that I could do without too much issues. Just looking for verification.
Also, I've had instances where I've broken or had other issues with my phones and have had to have them replaced. I usually get the insurance due to my increased chances of something happening to the phone. So, how easy is it to unroot to send back for replacement? I read that it might not be possible?
I'm coming from a S4 on Verizon and I know big red likes to lock things down. From what I understand, T-Mobile is more "root" friendly. Thanks in advance for the help!
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So far on mine, I have unlocked the bootloader through HTCDEV (which is free), installed TWRP, achieved S-Off through Sunshine (didn't even try firewater) flashed the GPE RUU for full Google Play Edition conversion (pretty cool to be able to do this), decided to go back to sense (which took some work). I am no developer, but I can follow directions pretty well and I am pretty comfortable with Terminal on my Mac. The most challenging part was reverting back to sense as it had a lot of steps. I'd say all of it is pretty easily done. The only thing I haven't tried to do is set S-On and reset the factory lock on the bootloader so it doesn't advertise that its been relocked. I have no reason to do this yet.

I personally think the relocked thing is a little ridiculous if you don't want us to unlock the boot loader why do they make it so easy hey at least there not as bad as Samsung
sent from my m8 gpe

So I got my M8 yesterday and am wondering how long I can hold off rooting it. I usually like to wait a little bit to make sure the phone is okay before going through the process. One thing the sales guy told me that I found interesting is that they unlock the phone once it's paid for. So, if I unlock it using the methods found here, that should still be okay, correct?

Do I Really Need S-OFF???

Sorry im a bit of a Noob and was wondering what benefit i would get from being S-Off
To be honest 25 for sunshine to get S-Off is a bit extreme but thats why im asking the question, im not here to start moaning about the cost, if i find that s-off is worth it i will get it.
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What may be worth doing is rooting the phone and purchasing sunshine if and when soff is needed to restore the tamper flag in the bootloader for warranty purposes. If you dont need to send it back dont bother paying for soff. Obviously if you want soff for other reasons then its worth it but only you would know this. Personally were both **** out of luck as its the only method to gain soff on the latest m8's. I will more than likely be getting it as i want root only but to have son bl locked and tamper flags removed whilst retaining root. For this reason alone its worth it to me but i hear ya. Still not to happy about paying it but theres no other choice atm unfortunately.
Im still not happy the bootloader has to be unlocked just to gain root. Ive always rooted my phones whilst keeping everything else stock, but again its tough **** until devs find an exploit, if they are even searching for one, who knows.

bornnslippy said:
Sorry im a bit of a Noob and was wondering what benefit i would get from being S-Off
To be honest 25 for sunshine to get S-Off is a bit extreme but thats why im asking the question, im not here to start moaning about the cost, if i find that s-off is worth it i will get it.
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The best part of S-Off for me is that I can always be running the newest firmware, and therefore the newest ROMs. I never have to wait for my carrier to update (for example AT&T just got Lollipop a few weeks ago but S-Off users updated in January with WWE firmware)

This ^^^^
I got s-off in the beginning. So I've never had to worry about official updates, or finding firmware for my exact model (which is Telus... So harder to find). I did SuperCID, so I can flash firmware anytime, even downgrade firmware. I can use new roms, or old roms... Covert to GPE if I wanted... Etc.
Do you need it to fully enjoy the phone? No. But if you like having total control... Then yes you do.
$25 wasn't a big deal for me, for complete freedom. :good:

It depends where you live, what carrier your on, & if you want to tinker with your phone. I'm in the US, on Verizon, & want to stay up to date on firmwire & the latest android. Finally, I want full access to my device, so that's why I paid $25 no question !!!!!

Last thing does s-off void your warranty
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bornnslippy said:
Last thing does s-off void your warranty
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Not exactly. But unlocking your bootloader technically does. But with s-off, you can reverse everything you've done, including the red tampered banner, and return your device to its stock state.

sjpritch25 said:
It depends where you live, what carrier your on, & if you want to tinker with your phone.
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And specifically what you want to tinker with. But otherwise I agree.
If you own a version that gets relatively quickly updated (GPE, Dev Edition, many WWE versions) its probably not that necessary. But on AT&T for instance, we had to wait a few months (after other variants) to get the "official" 4.4.4 and 5.0 firmwares (hboot, radio, etc.). Meaning we couldn't properly run most custom ROMs for a while without s-off.
I did s-off when I got the phone about a year ago. So I've fortunately never had such limitations. I've been running LP since January, where folks on AT&T with s-on had to wait until April for the proper firmware.
Plus, with s-off you can flash modified hboots, manually flash different radios, and "fully convert" to other versions (other CIDs, of Google Play Edition).