I've been looking around trying to get my botched gpe edition back to sense. Haven't been able to s-off. Thus can't get supercid. But I remember seeing a lot of people that the reason for sense roms not working on a gpe phone, is because the partitioning in the memory. So my question is: Can partitioning be changed manually to possibly support sense roms? And what exactly changes the partitioning in the first place?
Stay on GPe L is coming tomorrow.
EternalAndroid said:
Stay on GPe L is coming tomorrow.
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L won't be any good to me since I can't even get stock GPE to work. And SD+GPE4.4.4 ota updater isn't working for me. I just want to go back to sense so I can finally get s-off and finally benefit from it.
You need to convert back?
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You need to convert back?
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Yep, and no matter what I've tried, it all seems to need s-off which neither firewater or sunshine can accomplish.
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Yep, and no matter what I've tried, it all seems to need s-off which neither firewater or sunshine can accomplish.
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Well if firewater didn't work & you paid for sunshine it should work. How did you convert without s-off?
EternalAndroid said:
Well if firewater didn't work & you paid for sunshine it should work. How did you convert without s-off?
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That's the million dollar question right there. I have no idea how, but I converted it. At first the gpe worked, but after an OTA things took a turn for the worse, I forgot what I did. But now I can't get the stock gpe ruu to work, and only the SD GPE works and aosp roms. And I know it's because of the partitioning.
Are you SuperCID?
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Are you SuperCID?
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Nope, apparently can't change your cid unless you are s-off. And both firewater and sunshine said they were incompatible with my rom or whatever. If only I could wipe everything and start over again from scratch.
deviousconundrum said:
Nope, apparently can't change your cid unless you are s-off. And both firewater and sunshine said they were incompatible with my rom or whatever. If only I could wipe everything and start over again from scratch.
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PM me.
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Anybody having any luck re-rooting after the Sense 6 OTA today?
brent372 said:
Anybody having any luck re-rooting after the Sense 6 OTA today?
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im guessing they patched the exploit and will have to wait for a new one if you went back to locked, or s-on status.
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im guessing they patched the exploit and will have to wait for a new one if you went back to locked, or s-on status.
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Never S-OFF'd or unlocked it.
Never perm-rooted it. Didn't even have custom recovery.
It was 100%, just rooted. It is a work-only phone so I am not overly concerned with it. But it would still be nice to be able to.
brent372 said:
Never S-OFF'd or unlocked it.
Never perm-rooted it. Didn't even have custom recovery.
It was 100%, just rooted. It is a work-only phone so I am not overly concerned with it. But it would still be nice to be able to.
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Ah, im sure someone will find a way. they always do.
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Ah, im sure someone will find a way. they always do.
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Tell that to the folks in the VZW s5 forums. lol
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Tell that to the folks in the VZW s5 forums. lol
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ZING
i guess i should say that HTC phones seem to be easier to root, well from the outside looking in that is. i have no clue how hard it really is to find an exploit.
newest RUU today
FLASH: Just now, I can confirm that after taking the 5-28-2014 update (4.10.605.3) Weaksauce 1.01 can't any longer attain root.
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FLASH: Just now, I can confirm that after taking the 5-28-2014 update (4.10.605.3) Weaksauce 1.01 can't any longer attain root.
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And this is why I always tell people that if they want to stay rooted or unlock in the future that they shouldn't take any OTAs.
Wasnt a deal breaker for me on this phone
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not a tragedy
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And this is why I always tell people that if they want to stay rooted or unlock in the future that they shouldn't take any OTAs.
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Nah, just a learning exercise!!
Was locked and S-0ff and took the 0TA to check it out. Including Weaksauce.
Easily flashed an unencrypted older RUU, then unlocked the bootloader with Scotty's recipe posted earlier.
Made firmware newest with SantoD's no-boot firmware and we're back at the races!
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Nah, just a learning exercise!!
Was locked and S-0ff and took the 0TA to check it out. Including Weaksauce.
Easily flashed an unencrypted older RUU, then unlocked the bootloader with Scotty's recipe posted earlier.
Made firmware newest with SantoD's no-boot firmware and we're back at the races!
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If s-off there's no need to lock to get an OTA.
Also, keep this so you don't need to flash back to an older RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765784
Now that we can temproot with sunshine 1.7. I tried Firewater after getting temproot, got a message from firewater that said HTC patched the firewater method. Is there anyway to unlock/s-off 4.10.605.3 other than java card?
alucke said:
Now that we can temproot with sunshine 1.7. I tried Firewater after getting temproot, got a message from firewater that said HTC patched the firewater method. Is there anyway to unlock/s-off 4.10.605.3 other than java card?
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AFAIK not yet. Jcase will update sunshine once S-Off is available.
i dont think their will be any other s-off exploits posted here. Sunshine will be it unless someone else comes up with an exploit other than jcase and beanups
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AFAIK not yet. Jcase will update sunshine once S-Off is available.
i dont think their will be any other s-off exploits posted here. Sunshine will be it unless someone else comes up with an exploit other than jcase and beanups
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And jcase already said he's got s-off/unlock working just fine, but wants to wait until another phone needs it too, because he doesn't want to release just for one device.
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And jcase already said he's got s-off/unlock working just fine, but wants to wait until another phone needs it too, because he doesn't want to release just for one device.
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well that just sucks, when is another device going to need it? even though there are people wanting it now for the m7
jcase doesnt do this for us, he finds the vulnerabilities and reports them for a living. im pretty sure he is waiting on HTC to patch this current vulnerability before releasing it, giving HTC or any OEM to get it fixed before public release.
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jcase doesnt do this for us, he finds the vulnerabilities and reports them for a living. im pretty sure he is waiting on HTC to patch this current vulnerability before releasing it, giving HTC or any OEM to get it fixed before public release.
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i can respect that, but i just want a liquid rom back on my phone. it's all i want!! :fingers-crossed:
hey i am wondering if i am able to root my m7 with 4.4.2 with the 6.0 sense and if so can i get the link to the page. thanks
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hey i am wondering if i am able to root my m7 with 4.4.2 with the 6.0 sense and if so can i get the link to the page. thanks
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it's everywhere if you choose to read it. nothing is available for the m7 yet, all we can do is wait
d0m_ said:
it's everywhere if you choose to read it. nothing is available for the m7 yet, all we can do is wait
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sorry about that i have been looking around the internet and nothing was saying it plain. i did not really look into the q and a thread so i am sorry for that.
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sorry about that i have been looking around the internet and nothing was saying it plain. i did not really look into the q and a thread so i am sorry for that.
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no worries, didn't mean to sound rude about it at all.
alucke said:
Now that we can temproot with sunshine 1.7. I tried Firewater after getting temproot, got a message from firewater that said HTC patched the firewater method. Is there anyway to unlock/s-off 4.10.605.3 other than java card?
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I couldn't get temproot to work. The error message says incompatible Rom. I'm on stock vzw Rom. How did you do it?
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/497154195493904384
V2 is out and has m7 support
Works great.
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Works great.
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You have s-off and were able to unlock? Or just temproot?
Yessss M7 S-0ff complete
Works fast and sweet on VZN M7 tonight.
And we don't need anything else now: a new step
does TempRoot.
Thanks to the great Crew who did this!
oh sweet heavens! i was starting to wonder about this. i am running it now. i will post back when it is finished.
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SUCCESS! worked like a charm. whole process was done in under 10 minutes. didn't have to connect it to my computer at all. well worth the money. best developers in my opinion.
works with 4.10.605.3 ota update!
I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.
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I just got my M8 yesterday after running over my previous phone, and immediately started looking into s-off and root. Am I screwed with the 4.4.3 update when it comes to s-off, because it seems like firewater won't work. Is there a different exploit that works? I couldn't find anything searching. My apologizes about the noobness, I'm always like this when I first get a new device. Many thanks in advance, sorry for any errors grammar-wise, I'm on my phone.
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You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/
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You need to use Sunshine. It costs $25 and not transferrable to a different phone, but it is worth it IMHO.
http://theroot.ninja/
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
themacman1000 said:
Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.
phil.culler said:
I did, then I must have done something wrong. had a pretty constant reboot problem. Ended up buying S-Off and flashing GPE ruu.
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Sweet, thank you very much. I'm just a bit tight after buying this phone and having a 1k mile road trip this week. Good to know I can get my root on.
I just did the same thing I love it no more sense or HTC preventing me from running the latest software
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Cool, thanks. Sunshine is just for s-off, right? I can still root and bootloader unlock without sunshine, correct?
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Correct, but I preferred to get S-off with sunshine then root and unlock the bootloader without having to get the HTC developer unlock. This way HTC doesn't have any record of the bootloader being unlocked.
Gentlemen,
I'm thinking of converting my 5.0.1 sense rom (currently using Revolution HD) to GPE so I could always get the latest versions of Android.
So I was wondering how GPE is compared to Sense from ppl who tried both, better performance? Battery?
Will I get OTAs, or would I need to manually update?
I asked these questions because I didn't find a recent post about converted GPEs, so I was wondering if it will be worth the 25$ to get S-off to do it, plus formatting my phone!
Thanks in Advance :good:
I was skeptical at first too.. YES!! to everything. Sense has some good features, etc that are useful.. But I found it to be more annoying and bloated than anything. Battery life for me is better on gpe too. As a nexus guy, I upgrade to m8 for battery life from nexus 5. Gpe gets me damn close to nexus with a few extra features. You will get OTA as long as you use the GOOGL cid.
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Thanks, thats great!
I'll probably convert mine soon.
I loved my nexus s, 4, and 5. but i love the m8 gpe even more.
Fast and slim OS, fast updates, premium hardware, best of both worlds.
Only downside for me: sense based Rom do support rSAP, gpe does not.
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I'm thinking about converting to GPE too , but i should s-off first , i can't find a free way to do that :/
The ease in which to block calls in Sense keeps me there. Tried both.
The Tox said:
I'm thinking about converting to GPE too , but i should s-off first , i can't find a free way to do that :/
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You may as well be searching for the Holy Grail or Fountain of Youth; you are looking for something that doesn't exist, and wasting your time.
sunshine is the only way to s-off, pay for it and get it over with.
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Will I get OTAs, or would I need to manually update?
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If you do the full conversion (s-off, change CID/MID, and RUU) to GPE, than yes you should get official OTAs.
This, and the changed partition scheme are the main reasons for doing a "full conversion" versus just flashing a GPE ROM.
GPE partitioning means you get more internal (user accessible storage) since the system (ROM) partition is much smaller on GPE versus Sense. But it also means, if you want to switch back, you need to "convert" back to Sense (usually by flashing Sense firmware and RUU).
If you want to try the GPE ROM before doing the "full conversion" you can just flash a GPE ROM and see if you like it. But in this case, you won't have the GPE partitioning, or OTA updates.
I have not been able to get S Off yet, but I am happy with the various Roms available for GPE/ASOP/Whatever.
S Off seems to require rolling back to stock, and I have no idea how to do that now that I am on GPE
I am currently using Validus. It is fast and good, but it does crash about once a day.
But that my be my apps and/or exposed or whatever.
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You may as well be searching for the Holy Grail or Fountain of Youth; you are looking for something that doesn't exist, and wasting your time.
sunshine is the only way to s-off, pay for it and get it over with.
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If you do the full conversion (s-off, change CID/MID, and RUU) to GPE, than yes you should get official OTAs.
This, and the changed partition scheme are the main reasons for doing a "full conversion" versus just flashing a GPE ROM.
GPE partitioning means you get more internal (user accessible storage) since the system (ROM) partition is much smaller on GPE versus Sense. But it also means, if you want to switch back, you need to "convert" back to Sense (usually by flashing Sense firmware and RUU).
If you want to try the GPE ROM before doing the "full conversion" you can just flash a GPE ROM and see if you like it. But in this case, you won't have the GPE partitioning, or OTA updates.
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I did a full conversion (s-off, changed CID, Kept my MID "0P6B10000" because the XDA thread mentioned its supported, RUU, etc) I had to pay for Sunshine, but honestly its worth it, seamless effort to get S-off :good:
I'm loving it, super fast, and more free memory, but most of all I cant wait to get quick updates
I did the pre-rooted RUU, and flashed TWRP, would that affect OTAs? do I need to flash stock recovery before OTA?
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I have not been able to get S Off yet, but I am happy with the various Roms available for GPE/ASOP/Whatever.
S Off seems to require rolling back to stock, and I have no idea how to do that now that I am on GPE
I am currently using Validus. It is fast and good, but it does crash about once a day.
But that my be my apps and/or exposed or whatever.
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Crashing once a day does not sound stable! I reckon you should try another ROM, I've used Xposed on lollipop without any issues (on both stock Sense and stock GPE).
install Sunshine to get S-off, before billing you the app does a thorough check on your phone to see if S-off can be done (on my check it mentioned I need to uninstall Xposed first).
Because your phone is S-On I reckon you haven't fully converted to GPE, to roll back to sense I believe all you need is flash a sense rom after wiping all data (read instructions carefully) or get a sense RUU to get back to your original state (wipes everything).
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I did the pre-rooted RUU, and flashed TWRP, would that affect OTAs? do I need to flash stock recovery before OTA?
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Root should be okay for OTA. But you will need the stock recovery to OTA.
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Root should be okay for OTA. But you will need the stock recovery to OTA.
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I thought so, can you help me with stock recovery?
when I did the conversion (before flashing TWRP) I couldn't access Recovery, all it gave me was a dead looking Droid with an Exclamation Mark. I tried searching online but couldn't find a stock recovery for GPE Android 5.1 Build # LM47O.H6
I know I could have extracted it from RUU zip but it will be the same Recovery that didnt function, know where I can find one?
Stock recovery
What is stock recovery why do we need it?
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What is stock recovery why do we need it?
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Its the recovery that comes with your phone, not third party (advanced) like Philz or TWRP, etc.
yes...there are free methods to do it....browse n u will find it...
mraacidd said:
yes...there are free methods to do it....browse n u will find it...
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To do what ?
Mr Hofs said:
To do what ?
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s-off....when I did mine...i did it the free way following tutorials from xda....thankx to dev who were willing to share their knowledge....I did everything doin the free way....cuz I prefer to learn n get the knowledge.......correct me if I m wrong....
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s-off....when I did mine...i did it the free way following tutorials from xda....thankx to dev who were willing to share their knowledge....I did everything doin the free way....cuz I prefer to learn n get the knowledge.......correct me if I m wrong....
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The free way was firewater but that's not online anymore. Only sunshine is the cheapest and easiest way to s-off now (from the same developers as firewater). No other methods available (at least not for the masses)
We won't learn how to do it from them, they have years and years of experience by testing and trying. They won't just put the info on how to do it online anywhere. And they shouldn't after all the time and bricked devices !
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The free way was firewater but that's not online anymore. Only sunshine is the cheapest and easiest way to s-off now (from the same developers as firewater). No other methods available (at least not for the masses)
We won't learn how to do it from them, they have years and years of experience by testing and trying. They won't just put the info on how to do it online anywhere. And they shouldn't after all the time and bricked devices !
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I did not use firewater....I remember using the all-in-one-toolkit the first time...n the second time....i really forgot....sorry...but i do remember having to connect to htc the second time after i relocked my bootloader....sorry for my lapse in memory....I m not that young....
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I did not use firewater....I remember using the all-in-one-toolkit the first time...n the second time....i really forgot....sorry...but i do remember having to connect to htc the second time after i relocked my bootloader....sorry for my lapse in memory....I m not that young....
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If firewater was incorporated into the toolkit you probably used that. There was no other free option beside firewater. Unlocking the bootloader is something completely different to s-off !
S-off is done once and you never lose it, unless you make the phone s-on yourself again. So you never have to do it a second time. I think you are mixing some memories up
Unlocking the bootloader is done via the HTC dev site indeed and s-off these days only via sunshine.
Hello all,
I am trying to change my girlfriends ATT edition m8 into a Google Play Edition. Shes been having a lot of problems lately and just a nice clean stock android I feel would really just revive the phone. Im not looking to pay $25 for a 2 year old phone that has hardware issue just to get s-off so if anyone has a method to get s-off i would appreciate it. I have unlocked the bootloader so thats all set.
When I attempt to flash the RUU.zip I have I am constantly getting an error 99 return.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks guys.
You can't convert with a ruu while S-ON. And there is no other S-OFF tool than sunshine. At least not under 25$.
magestic1995 said:
I am trying to change my girlfriends ATT edition m8 into a Google Play Edition.
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You need S-Off to convert the device to GPE but you don't need to convert to GPE to experience GPE.
While on S-On, you can install the Flashable Stock GPe ROM instead of using GPe RUU.
See : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
and there are a few other GPE flashable ROMs in Development thread that you don't need conversion to GPE.
(e.g. the one that linked in my signature but that's not updated to the latest and running this without GPE coversion)
magestic1995 said:
Im not looking to pay $25 for a 2 year old phone that has hardware issue just to get s-off so if anyone has a method to get s-off i would appreciate it.
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There is no free s-off method. sunshine is your only option, unless you have a friend with a javacard and knows how to use it (otherwise, that costs even more money).
I agree with ckpv5 above, just flash a GPE ROM to get GPE experience. The only things that would be missing are OTA updates, and the GPE partition scheme.
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You need S-Off to convert the device to GPE but you don't need to convert to GPE to experience GPE.
While on S-On, you can install the Flashable Stock GPe ROM instead of using GPe RUU.
See : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
and there are a few other GPE flashable ROMs in Development thread that you don't need conversion to GPE.
(e.g. the one that linked in my signature but that's not updated to the latest and running this without GPE coversion)
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Thanks, I ended up using the guide and flashing it as a ROM, it ended up working great and helped a lot.
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There is no free s-off method. sunshine is your only option, unless you have a friend with a javacard and knows how to use it (otherwise, that costs even more money).
I agree with ckpv5 above, just flash a GPE ROM to get GPE experience. The only things that would be missing are OTA updates, and the GPE partition scheme.
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Question whats a javacard??
magestic1995 said:
Question whats a javacard??
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Its a special MicroSD card that will s-off the device. They cost $300 or so. You might be able to find a local service that has a javacard for the M8, but by the time you find one, and pay them to s-off, you probably could have just used sunshine.
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Its a special MicroSD card that will s-off the device. They cost $300 or so. You might be able to find a local service that has a javacard for the M8, but by the time you find one, and pay them to s-off, you probably could have just used sunshine.
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Never realized s-off was so complicated for the m8, dont remember it ever being so hard on my old phones.
magestic1995 said:
Never realized s-off was so complicated for the m8, dont remember it ever being so hard on my old phones.
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Sunshine is an app, its not complicated. I think by "complicated" you mean expensive.
On the other hand, S-off is certainly complicated for the developers, that have spend hundreds of hours finding these exploits, and bricked several devices developing sunshine. Sunshine is by the same devs that did firewater (for free) and a ton of other contributions to XDA, before deciding to make sunshine a paid app.
Java card is somewhat of a obscure thing. But nothing completely new. Older HTC devices had "gold cards" with a similar concept.
Whether you decide to pay for s-off or not, is completely up to your personal discretion. S-off isn't needed for most people; as its not needed to flash ROMs, root, and a great many other things.