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I have a AT&T Note2 that I got late November. Battery Performance was fabulous. I just recently got the update to 4.1.2 OTA and there was some sort of upgrade or maintenance just prior to the 4.1.2 update.
I immediately noticed a difference in battery performance. It was substantially less than what I had on 4.1.1. I cant get any straight answers from Samsung or AT&T, there is no comprehensive log for the update so its hard to figure out whats going on.
Same software load as on 4.1.1. I did notice that after the update to 4.1.2 there were substantially more items in manage apps> running than what was in 4.1.1.
Samsung claims the root cause is the update to the OS and a change to the wifi radio and software.
Does anyone know what really is going on. At&T is a lost cause and no help whatsoever.
Thank you
I will be interested what you find out as I am experienceing the same issue. I went from 95% to 65% overnight doing nothing (WiFi on). Earlier today I was losing about 2-3% battery every 15 minutes doing nothing and did some research. All I could find out was to turn off all location services and since I don't get Wifi at work, turn off WiFi while here. This helped some, but still would like to find out what is going on. My iphone was a battery hog in the end of its life and my new GN2 lasts barely as long as my 2 year old iphone did. Not a happy camper right now.
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I will be interested what you find out as I am experienceing the same issue. I went from 95% to 65% overnight doing nothing (WiFi on). Earlier today I was losing about 2-3% battery every 15 minutes doing nothing and did some research. All I could find out was to turn off all location services and since I don't get Wifi at work, turn off WiFi while here. This helped some, but still would like to find out what is going on. My iphone was a battery hog in the end of its life and my new GN2 lasts barely as long as my 2 year old iphone did. Not a happy camper right now.
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Hi, I'm hopeful one of the Senior Members or Mod's will run down a answer as well as a comprehensive change add-delete and enhancement log regarding the 4.1.2 update. All I can say is I have not added anything my daily use is the same..no games. I disabled all the att bloat wae other than hot spots. I sort of paid attention to my running apps in 4.1.1, and now in 4.1.2 there are many more things theree that wernt prior to this update. I didnt have to disable anything prior to this update.
The answer is not in disabling bloat apps. The answer is in the log that shows what was done with the update.
I hope someone can get that because it holds the key to the answers we are looking for.
Who knows maybe one of the developers will read this thread and be able to help.
try a battery pull and obviously reboot. Download the Gsam battery monitor from the market. I think it is free. It dumbs down a lot of stuff and pretty much tells you what is taking up your battery. It does a much better job than the stock battery checker. After an hour or so, the longer the better, it will show you some apps or processes that are the culprit.
Battery stats app is a paid app in the market but I think it is free on this xda site somewhere for members. That appears to be a very comprehensive battery monitoring apps with wakelocks and it gets very complicated for a novice such as myself.
can you provide additional details on your situation, for example:
what's your baseline comparison, e.g., before: 18 hrs use with 4 hours screen time, after 13 hours use 4 hours screen time
are you rooted (i suspect not)?
have you gone into Settings->Battery to see which apps, etc., are using your battery?
do you have a lot of music, pictures, etc on your phone?
not an answer to your question, but... have you considered performing a hard reset on your device and then testing battery life with at clean slate?
looking at your battery stats is a better indicator of what could be causing poor battery life. i'm on the same release as you and my battery life has been the same if not better. also download better battery stats to see if you have wake-lock issues. i'm averaging 16-20 hours per charge with 6-9 hours screen time, about 150 emails daily and 35-90 minutes in phone calls.
So yesterday at 19 hours of use (maybe 2 hours total of emails, web surfing, and using a couple apps, music for an hour at the gym) I still had 32% left. Not bad. However, my wifi was off all day, even at home, and I kept my location services turned off. So tomorrow I am going to test it with Wifi on at home and my location services and see what happens. The Gsam battery app i used yesterday was pretty cool although at first I wasn't sure because it said that the app was using 15%. But as the day progressed it never went over 4%. Still new to the android platform, but learning.
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So yesterday at 19 hours of use (maybe 2 hours total of emails, web surfing, and using a couple apps, music for an hour at the gym) I still had 32% left. Not bad. However, my wifi was off all day, even at home, and I kept my location services turned off. So tomorrow I am going to test it with Wifi on at home and my location services and see what happens. The Gsam battery app i used yesterday was pretty cool although at first I wasn't sure because it said that the app was using 15%. But as the day progressed it never went over 4%. Still new to the android platform, but learning.
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I APPRECIATE the response however I would like to know what was done with the 4.1.2 upgrade, what changed, enhanced or whatever as well as the AT&T maint just prior to the 4.1.2 upgrade. Nothing was disabled, I was runn8ng the same exact software load, same apps, no games, and wifi wS constantly on. While disabling bloatware, shutting down this and that, turning off wifi at this point is helpful, its not a acceptable answer as to what happened.
This forum has some of the most respected developers and computer genius's around. Whenever you ask for something and everyone else comes up empty, the first thing you hear is go to XDA.
My Galaxy Note2 had the most incredible battery time of any device I've ever owned prior to the updates. Im also pissed because I didnt even know that the red and grey arrows and the connecting to dnr server was AT&T doing a update. There was no forewarning.
The Note2 is still fabulous to me, I just want to understand what has happened and why. I am not asking for a say in what they did, certainly this is my phone, I believe that I should be entitled at least to know what transpired.
There should be no problem producing a comprehensive change log with a lay person level explanation.
I was getting 2 days off charger with 8 hours of screen time and suddenly the battery doesn't seem to charge past 50% and I didn't do a single thing to it but tonight I am cleaning everything out and starting fresh because something odd is going on
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I was getting 2 days off charger with 8 hours of screen time and suddenly the battery doesn't seem to charge past 50% and I didn't do a single thing to it but tonight I am cleaning everything out and starting fresh because something odd is going on
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I think the key to many answers is 2 items.....a log and explanation of what occurred in simple terms regarding the 2 updates. There was a no warning automatic att update done just prior to and then the actual 4.1.2 update itself. My gut opinion is something was changed with wifi and how its handled along with some other software changes.
I feel like. Dog chasing my own tail...disable this, disable that...bull...nothing was disabled and wifi was always on prior the updates.
I flashed the M9 snapshot of Cyanogenmod yesterday evening. It installed with no problems. I restored my apps just like I always have, with TM. All seemed fine. Everything was working as expected. I charged the phone to about 90%, unplugged it & went to bed. At around 3:30AM the phone woke me up with a low battery warning. It was at 3%. My phone has never been that low. I usually use C-Rom or the Sprint 4.4.2 port with no problems. Any ideas?
You probably restored something that's not compatible in that version. Check your battery logs and use Better Battery Stats to hunt down the cause.
I'm kind of curious if you ever found the cause to this. I'm getting ready to flash M9 myself, but if it's gonna do a battery drain I won't bother.
Just clean flashed M9 (after doing a "super nuke" - wipe cache, dalvik, system, data, data media) and have been up and running for about 1/2 hour. Phone goes into deep sleep no problem. I'll keep an eye on it for the next while and will report back.
@patcal: I think Doc might be right on this one; though, I do recommend Better Battery Stats to help determine what's going on.
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I'm kind of curious if you ever found the cause to this. I'm getting ready to flash M9 myself, but if it's gonna do a battery drain I won't bother.
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To be honest, I did not try to find out. Since I never had this happen with any other rom, I just went back to the Sprint port for now. I may try again in a few days.
Actually, now I'm finding that 3/4 of my time is in deep sleep and 1/4 is at 1500MHz. BBS isn't really telling me anything so I don't know what's going on.
I know the latest nightly is pretty stable so I'm going to upgrade to that.
Well, I loaded M9 last night with no issues. However, I always leave my T999L plugged in overnight to charge, and unplug it to use with my coffee in the morning. Well, I unplugged it about 40 minutes ago and it was at full charge. Now I'm down to 69%.
So I'd say this is a confirmation of a battery drain issue with M9. @op did you report it to Cyanogenmod yet?
Has anyone else tried M9 and found a battery issue?
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Well, I loaded M9 last night with no issues. However, I always leave my T999L plugged in overnight to charge, and unplug it to use with my coffee in the morning. Well, I unplugged it about 40 minutes ago and it was at full charge. Now I'm down to 69%.
So I'd say this is a confirmation of a battery drain issue with M9. @op did you report it to Cyanogenmod yet?
Has anyone else tried M9 and found a battery issue?
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I did not. I was going to try flashing again this weekend without restoring my apps. If it was one of my apps I would probably just wait for another release.
I ended up dirty flashing the 08/06 nightly over the M9 - no more battery drain. So, I highly recommend the 08/06 nightly.
Thanks for the info. I just got done re-flashing M8 and re-configuring my phone and apps again on that. I'll likely try out the nightly you suggested on Monday or next week sometime.
Unless there's a way to keep track of home screen settings in Titanium Backup between flashes? Anytime I try to blanket restore system settings it makes the phone hang at the loading screen.
EDIT: Figured out how to backup my home screen configuration, so I might do it this weekend, but I'm done for now. 2 resets so close together is enough for me for now.
Got new 360 directly form Moto yesterday, the build is still KKW22 with software 4.4W. From what I understand it's an older build. I can't update to newer KGW42N 4.4w1. I tried to manual update, but it says system is up to date. HORRIBLE battery life on KKW22. Took it off charger at 7:00am and its dead at 11:00am. Ambient, or in this case screen always on mode off. With MINIMAL use. WTF?? How can i update to the newer KGW42N update?
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Got new 360 directly form Moto yesterday, the build is still KKW22 with software 4.4W. From what I understand it's an older build. I can't update to newer KGW42N 4.4w1. I tried to manual update, but it says system is up to date. HORRIBLE battery life on KKW22. Took it off charger at 7:00am and its dead at 11:00am. Ambient, or in this case screen always on mode off. With MINIMAL use. WTF?? How can i update to the newer KGW42N update?
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SAME HERE!! Maybe moto killed the update??
Having the same problem. Can't update and battery life is horrible.
another thing ive noticed is I cannot get the notification settings right... either my notifications work on my phone and watch (vibrate) or they are both silent...
IE, if I put my phone on vibrate mode, my watch will not vibrate for notifications.
If I have the sound on for my phone, my phone will still have notification sounds even though I have "notifications on watch only" setup.
Was reading this thread when I got the notification for the System Update.
SO, they're rolling out....
and...the moto360 is DEAD serious about being at 80% charge before running updates.
I can imagine. It takes 10% alone to reboot the thing
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I can imagine. It takes 10% alone to reboot the thing
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actually the update and reboot only took 5% total
making progress lol
I am trying to figure out why Motorola decided to "fragment" these devices.
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Was reading this thread when I got the notification for the System Update.
SO, they're rolling out....
and...the moto360 is DEAD serious about being at 80% charge before running updates.
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just popped mine on my charger... lol... 70%
Finally! Reset (not restart) the watch and I'm getting the update
... do you need wifi to update? im at work
EDIT: NVM, it updated!
I just unboxed mine from BB delivery and it update to KGW42N right away
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I just unboxed mine from BB delivery and it update to KGW42N right away
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yeah, for some reason, they werent pushing the update yesterday.
Did you guys have the extra watch faces and after the update they've disappeared?
Got mine from Moto-- doing the update (I had previously charged my battery) but now during the update it says "Charge your battery". Makes sense. Cept when i'm on the charger, i'm already at 75%. Is there a cutoff point before it does update?
edit: oh. 80%. my bad.
Battery got much better after a few charging cycles. Freak me out too on the first day about the battery life.
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Thanks for the tip, a hard reset prompted the update. Those extra faces are now gone.
Hi All,
so yesterday my phone updated to version 4.4.3, before this update the battery life on this one was nothing short of amazing (esp compared to my one x before) i could use it on and off all day and get home from work with 60ish % remaining.
since this update my phone seems to be eating battery like no tomorrow, it has only been off charge for 2 hours and i have not used it, just checked it and im down to 60% already...
yesterday afternoon i had to plug it in as it was in the red (14%)
has anyone else noticed this? is there an easy way to roll back without rooting? (warrentys and the like prevent me from rooting it)
Cheers
Daz
No way returning to the old version without unlocking/rooting it (with s-off its easy to return to 100% stock though)
But i would back up what you need and perform a factory reset. That is the first thing you can try to resolve the issue.
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Hi All,
so yesterday my phone updated to version 4.4.3, before this update the battery life on this one was nothing short of amazing (esp compared to my one x before) i could use it on and off all day and get home from work with 60ish % remaining.
since this update my phone seems to be eating battery like no tomorrow, it has only been off charge for 2 hours and i have not used it, just checked it and im down to 60% already...
yesterday afternoon i had to plug it in as it was in the red (14%)
has anyone else noticed this? is there an easy way to roll back without rooting? (warrentys and the like prevent me from rooting it)
Cheers
Daz
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Have you tried any of the standard things like wiping cache/factory reset?
You could install a battery monitor to see if there are any clues as to whats using up the battery:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
yes good point a factory reset would be the clear choice, will do that in a mo and see if that helps
Cheers
Daz
dazzler22 said:
yes good point a factory reset would be the clear choice, will do that in a mo and see if that helps
Cheers
Daz
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Just make sure any data you want is backed up first. You wont lose anything on your external sd card unless you chose to erase it, but you will lose your apps/accounts/settings. I would expect this should clear out anything causing issues, good luck.
I have exactly the same battery drain and the phone is always hot now so its doing something..
Let me know how the factory reset goes..
How did the reset go? I installed the update on Friday night and my phone has been running hot since then.
Just to update on this (sorry for the slow response!) finally managed to get round to a reset and that has solved the issue, battery life is now back up,
the battery monitor before the reset was just saying that the kernal was using most power.... never found out the cause though!
Cheers
Daz
dazzler22 said:
Hi All,
so yesterday my phone updated to version 4.4.3, before this update the battery life on this one was nothing short of amazing (esp compared to my one x before) i could use it on and off all day and get home from work with 60ish % remaining.
since this update my phone seems to be eating battery like no tomorrow, it has only been off charge for 2 hours and i have not used it, just checked it and im down to 60% already...
yesterday afternoon i had to plug it in as it was in the red (14%)
has anyone else noticed this? is there an easy way to roll back without rooting? (warrentys and the like prevent me from rooting it)
Cheers
Daz
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Are you still on stock EE rom mate?? i need a huge favour
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Just to update on this (sorry for the slow response!) finally managed to get round to a reset and that has solved the issue, battery life is now back up,
the battery monitor before the reset was just saying that the kernal was using most power.... never found out the cause though!
Cheers
Daz
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I have the same problem with 4.4.3.
How you have solved the issue?
Battery monitor apps, like my favorite Gsam, are pretty useless without root... To see the wakelocks.
Just an FYI. ?
Full reset resolved it for me.
Cheers
Daz
I got my Pixel 2 XL on 10/24/2017. From the day I got it until the February update the battery life was incredible. I was getting up to 9 hours SOT and 40 hours off the charger. The February update resulted in a noticeable decrease in battery life. The March update made it even worse. I'm now getting up to 6 hours SOT over 24 hours off the charger. I got the April update yesterday morning and despite the release notes mentioning 4 different battery life "improvements" it hasn't improved. It's still only a day after the April update but it seems like it might have gotten even worse.
I'm considering doing a factor reset but it's really a pain in the ass. Backup data, reset, reinstall and configure apps, restore data, reload music, etc. From start to finish it's a several hour process.
My question is, has anyone else with decreased battery life done a factory reset? Does it actually fix the decrease in battery life caused by the February and March updates? If it will really make a difference I'll go ahead and spend the time but I'd hate to waste the time to have it be the same after I'm done.
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I got my Pixel 2 XL on 10/24/2017. From the day I got it until the February update the battery life was incredible. I was getting up to 9 hours SOT and 40 hours off the charger. The February update resulted in a noticeable decrease in battery life. The March update made it even worse. I'm now getting up to 6 hours SOT over 24 hours off the charger. I got the April update yesterday morning and despite the release notes mentioning 4 different battery life "improvements" it hasn't improved. It's still only a day after the April update but it seems like it might have gotten even worse.
I'm considering doing a factor reset but it's really a pain in the ass. Backup data, reset, reinstall and configure apps, restore data, reload music, etc. From start to finish it's a several hour process.
My question is, has anyone else with decreased battery life done a factory reset? Does it actually fix the decrease in battery life caused by the February and March updates? If it will really make a difference I'll go ahead and spend the time but I'd hate to waste the time to have it be the same after I'm done.
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I was hesitant to admit it but my battery probably isn't as good as it was the first 3 months. I never got the numbers you did but comparing old screenshots to what I get now, both SOT and off the charger numbers have declined.
I've been contemplating doing a factory reset sooner than usual. I usually wait for 1 year with my phone but I might do it at 6 months, end of April, just to see. Would be nice to see someone confirm it helps or debunk that it doesn't.
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I was hesitant to admit it but my battery probably isn't as good as it was the first 3 months. I never got the numbers you did but comparing old screenshots to what I get now, both SOT and off the charger numbers have declined.
I've been contemplating doing a factory reset sooner than usual. I usually wait for 1 year with my phone but I might do it at 6 months, end of April, just to see. Would be nice to see someone confirm it helps or debunk that it doesn't.
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You mentioned that you usually wait a year before doing a factory reset. Has it had any impact on battery life when you've done it in the past?
Just for a reference here is an old screen shot I still have. It was taken in late November/early December. Off charger is only about 19 hours but with 9% battery left which would easily get to 40 hours in stand by back then.
Great question mate. I thought i was the only one have similar issue. I had great or say exceptional battery life in December update or earlier. But as more and more updates came battery life decreased. I had almost 9 hours SOT but now after underclocking, greenify , servicly etc it harldy reaches 5.5 hours SOT. Earlier i hardly needed to underclock or needed any help of battery saver apps. I wonder wat it could be hardware issue or software.
And to answer your question i clean wipe my phone before any new updates twice to make sure m not have any issues due to previous software. And yes i take all that pain to backup my data n then setup whole 35gb+ data again every month.
It's probably overkill, but I factory reset every month when I get the security update. Since I've been doing that, I have not had problems with battery, or anything else for that matter. Can't say for sure that's why, but I'm a believer.
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It's probably overkill, but I factory reset every month when I get the security update. Since I've been doing that, I have not had problems with battery, or anything else for that matter. Can't say for sure that's why, but I'm a believer.
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It might be overkill my friend, but I bet you don't have many issues with your device either ????
I'm not quite that diligent, but I'll do the full wipe and FR every 3 months to keep things clean. I don't have any issues either ??
I am on my second day of the April security patch and my battery life has gotten much worse. I got it launch day and I have always gotten 5-6 hours SoT for 18 hours off charge and still have 30% battery left. Yesterday I got 3.5 SoT for 18 hours and was at 4% when I plugged it in. I never had any adverse effect of battery life with the monthly patches until now. I havent factory reset since I bought the phone.
My battery life has gotten worse as well. It drains 10% hour just at idle. Mine was also incredible until the Feb-April updates. I'm considering doing a factory reset, or root it.
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You mentioned that you usually wait a year before doing a factory reset. Has it had any impact on battery life when you've done it in the past?
Just for a reference here is an old screen shot I still have. It was taken in late November/early December. Off charger is only about 19 hours but with 9% battery left which would easily get to 40 hours in stand by back then.
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Sometimes I wonder if it's just the degradation of the battery in general like what's happened with the iPhone 6's and even 7s. If I could get a replacement for $25 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I would certainly try a factory reset at this point, I might even do it one day when I have the wherewithal to reinstall everything. But if you do it then run full stock for a day or so adding only the apps that you desperately need to function. Then if the battery life improves dramatically slowly start adding all the junk back in and see what happens.
I'd be curious to know myself but as I said I'm not at that point yet. Close though. I'd also run Better Battery Stats and see what kind of partial wakelocks and alarms you are getting. My fitness band drains a lot especially when active so I've taken to plugging in for a half hour when I'm done with the workout to give it a bump. Love the fast charge.
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My battery life has gotten worse as well. It drains 10% hour just at idle. Mine was also incredible until the Feb-April updates. I'm considering doing a factory reset, or root it.
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Did you mean 1% / hour or 10? If it's 10% then you definitely need to reset or find out what is going on.
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Sometimes I wonder if it's just the degradation of the battery in general like what's happened with the iPhone 6's and even 7s. If I could get a replacement for $25 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I would certainly try a factory reset at this point, I might even do it one day when I have the wherewithal to reinstall everything. But if you do it then run full stock for a day or so adding only the apps that you desperately need to function. Then if the battery life improves dramatically slowly start adding all the junk back in and see what happens.
I'd be curious to know myself but as I said I'm not at that point yet. Close though. I'd also run Better Battery Stats and see what kind of partial wakelocks and alarms you are getting. My fitness band drains a lot especially when active so I've taken to plugging in for a half hour when I'm done with the workout to give it a bump. Love the fast charge.
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Did you mean 1% / hour or 10? If it's 10% then you definitely need to reset or find out what is going on.
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I did mean 10% lol. I took off charger at 6:45 am ,its now 8:13 here and sitting at 88%. Just a few text is all I have done this am so far.
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I did mean 10% lol. I took off charger at 6:45 am ,its now 8:13 here and sitting at 88%. Just a few text is all I have done this am so far.
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That's terrible. My phone has been off charger for the same amount of time and it's sitting at 99%. Email, browsing etc. You should get BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and try to figure out what is happening. Long OP but worth the effort.
PS. I'm on a Pixel 2 not the XL which has an even smaller battery than you do. I find that these devices (other than for root) are pretty much the same when it comes to things like this. Some have criticized me for cross posting but I really don't pay them much mind.
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That's terrible. My phone has been off charger for the same amount of time and it's sitting at 99%. Email, browsing etc. You should get BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and try to figure out what is happening. Long OP but worth the effort.
PS. I'm on a Pixel 2 not the XL which has an even smaller battery than you do. I find that these devices (other than for root) are pretty much the same when it comes to things like this. Some have criticized me for cross posting but I really don't pay them much mind.
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My phone used to be like that before the Feb update. I haven't used BBS since I was rooted with the original XL. I'll give it a shot. Otherwise I'm going reset it. Just a pin the arse lol
bobby janow said:
Sometimes I wonder if it's just the degradation of the battery in general like what's happened with the iPhone 6's and even 7s. If I could get a replacement for $25 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I would certainly try a factory reset at this point, I might even do it one day when I have the wherewithal to reinstall everything. But if you do it then run full stock for a day or so adding only the apps that you desperately need to function. Then if the battery life improves dramatically slowly start adding all the junk back in and see what happens.
I'd be curious to know myself but as I said I'm not at that point yet. Close though. I'd also run Better Battery Stats and see what kind of partial wakelocks and alarms you are getting. My fitness band drains a lot especially when active so I've taken to plugging in for a half hour when I'm done with the workout to give it a bump. Love the fast charge.
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Batteries do degrade. That's just a fact. However, I don't think that's what's going on here. Battery degradation is something that happens gradually over a long period of time. It shouldn't be noticable after only 5 months even if you do things that accelerate it. Plus, since it is gradual it shouldn't result in a sudden overnight drop. Fine one day, do an update, much worse the next day.
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That's terrible. My phone has been off charger for the same amount of time and it's sitting at 99%. Email, browsing etc. You should get BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and try to figure out what is happening. Long OP but worth the effort.
PS. I'm on a Pixel 2 not the XL which has an even smaller battery than you do. I find that these devices (other than for root) are pretty much the same when it comes to things like this. Some have criticized me for cross posting but I really don't pay them much mind.
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Doesn't BBS require root? I'd like to use BBS but if it requires root I don't want to risk it.
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Batteries do degrade. That's just a fact. However, I don't think that's what's going on here. Battery degradation is something that happens gradually over a long period of time. It shouldn't be noticable after only 5 months even if you do things that accelerate it. Plus, since it is gradual it shouldn't result in a sudden overnight drop. Fine one day, do an update, much worse the next day.
Doesn't BBS require root? I'd like to use BBS but if it requires root I don't want to risk it.
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Yes, you are correct it should take longer than 5 months. On my OG Pixel that happened after a year and it was slight. I really noticed it when my GPS completely just crapped out and Verizon sent me a refurb / new one (couldn't tell it was in great condition). But after that the battery life was back to when I first got it. I hope it's not the update that did this.
BBS does not need root. I've been running it for close to 2 years with no root on my 5X, Pixel and now the Pixel 2. There is a command in the OP I think it's in post #3 that has a command you enter in adb (no root $) that will give you all the statistics that root would give you. I believe its heading is something like: "If you don't have root..." If you can't find it let me know since I know it's a very long 3 or 4 OP posts.
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mrwicked said:
My phone used to be like that before the Feb update. I haven't used BBS since I was rooted with the original XL. I'll give it a shot. Otherwise I'm going reset it. Just a pin the arse lol
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Believe me I know. It's why I haven't done it so far.
The April update has severely impacted my battery life in a positive way. That said....I'd run in Safe Mode a day or 2 to see if that brings battery life back to par if I'm having issues before nuking with a factory reset.
I do a factory reset after any major update...and the April update was a major maintenance release so I did a reset. Before that, I did a reset in March (just because I had time off and was bored), and prior to that, I did a reset after I got my phone in December and it updated to 8.1 out of the box.
The April update seems to have improved my standby power draw a bit, that's about it. My battery life has been consistent since I bought it.
bobby janow said:
Yes, you are correct it should take longer than 5 months. On my OG Pixel that happened after a year and it was slight. I really noticed it when my GPS completely just crapped out and Verizon sent me a refurb / new one (couldn't tell it was in great condition). But after that the battery life was back to when I first got it. I hope it's not the update that did this.
BBS does not need root. I've been running it for close to 2 years with no root on my 5X, Pixel and now the Pixel 2. There is a command in the OP I think it's in post #3 that has a command you enter in adb (no root $) that will give you all the statistics that root would give you. I believe its heading is something like: "If you don't have root..." If you can't find it let me know since I know it's a very long 3 or 4 OP posts.
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Does the ADB method do anything to the phone that would cause a warranty or insurance claim to be denied if it was detected? That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from rooting.
AndrasLOHF said:
The April update has severely impacted my battery life in a positive way. That said....I'd run in Safe Mode a day or 2 to see if that brings battery life back to par if I'm having issues before nuking with a factory reset.
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I haven't tried safe mode in years but I remember it doing strange things to my phone. I don't even remember what it did since it was so long ago I just remember a hassel getting back to normal usage after going back to normal mode so I've been hesitant to do it again.
jimv1983 said:
Does the ADB method do anything to the phone that would cause a warranty or insurance claim to be denied if it was detected? That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from rooting.
I haven't tried safe mode in years but I remember it doing strange things to my phone. I don't even remember what it did since it was so long ago I just remember a hassel getting back to normal usage after going back to normal mode so I've been hesitant to do it again.
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Unlocking the bootloader doesn't not void your warranty. As far as root goes, if you fastboot a factory image, it'll completely wipe your phone and no one would be the wiser
jimv1983 said:
Does the ADB method do anything to the phone that would cause a warranty or insurance claim to be denied if it was detected? That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from rooting.
I haven't tried safe mode in years but I remember it doing strange things to my phone. I don't even remember what it did since it was so long ago I just remember a hassel getting back to normal usage after going back to normal mode so I've been hesitant to do it again.
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The adb method will do nothing that can be detected or cause a warranty issue. Just delete the BBS app. At this point or for your issue I'm not sure what root will give you other than agita. I'm not a fan of safe mode either. It always caused weird stuff to happen. You can read this and they kind of confirm that 3rd party apps might cause issues. I'd just do a factory reset if you can't see what is happening with BBS.
https://www.getdroidtips.com/boot-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl-safe-mode/
Interestingly enough I decided to factory reset after the April update. My battery life was awful today after the update and was already about to die. I had 31% battery according to the phone before the reset. After I factory reset the phone turned on and read 51% battery. Just find that a little odd. Will see if battery life improves now and report back.