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Battery Drain Solved

Hope this works for others - I've read the other posts but didn't see this posted as a solution, if so, pardon the miss...
I've been using Android since Cupcake (and on the iPhone since the iPhone 3) and am very well versed in the Android "features" which are in general battery draining.
I've owned both the Nexus and the Nexus S.
After buying the GNX I turned it off, came straight home and charged to full before using it. The first thing I did after turning it on was to clear the cache, force close, and disable the Verizon bloatware, including news and weather.
I had all sync options / apps off, 2 Gmail accounts on, and I broke out in a cold sweat every time I turned the screen on, knowing it was going to kill my battery if I dare use the device for its intended purpose, social streaming, news feed reading, games, Netflix, etc.
Like most I was suffering from an abnormal wake time and "Android OS" was consistently the top battery drain in the Battery Panel within Settings.
700 bucks for a phone that I'm afraid to use (without a 50 foot extension cord nearby) doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given I can use all of the above listed features on my iPhone 4 without thinking twice about my battery.
I went back to the Verizon store where I purchased the phone, showed some screen grabs of the battery life I was getting, and asked for a new device, which was met with resistance - from my perspective it was pretty simple, either exchange the device or I'm gonna return it...
With the new phone I decided to try something different. I still shut it off after the purchase was complete, charged to full before using it, disabled the bloatware etc., but I decided to not accept the OS update.
After using the phone without accepting the update I noticed a marked improvement - the first item listed in the Battery Panel within Settings is either "Phone Idle" or "Screen", depending on usage, and "Android OS" is consistently the 4th item in the list, currently using 16% of my resources, with 14 hrs, 24 min of use and 64% remaining on my battery, and a very acceptable wake time.
I should also add that with both phones I had the "Don't keep activities" check box selected within Settings / Developer Options
Now the only real problem I have is the annoying pop up asking me to install the update with every active screen session, sometimes a few times within each session.
So for now, I'm going to hold off on accepting the update, hope I don't accidentally accept, and wait until I hear how well the next OS update is before accepting it.

Tldr: I wiped/reset the phone but didn't update to 4.0.2. Now Android OS does not keep the phone awake.

Easy way to save battery: Put the phone down everyonce in a while. I get a good 7-10hrs out of it everyday.

Sooooo you turned off multitasking, and denied an update. To all the new users I highly suggest you don't do this. Those are developer settings to test apps and killing multitasking is not gonna be beneficial.
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Oh one more thing... change the title... Your misleading people.
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ChongoDroid said:
Sooooo you turned off multitasking, and denied an update. To all the new users I highly suggest you don't do this. Those are developer settings to test apps and killing multitasking is not gonna be beneficial.
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Yep, that's all I did, I denied the update and there's a night and day difference between how this phone behaves on 4.0.1 vs. the one I had on 4.0.2
I remember the good ol' days, when folks would come to XDA to offer and receive help from each other...

Funny how people think everything was the fix. You got an entirely new device...don't you think just maybe it could had been that, not the update?
This just in setting my wallpaper to the beach boys fixed it for me
( actually I have never had a wake lock issue... not on 4.0.1 4.0.2 or 4.0.3)
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this thread is a waste, and ere i was gettin all hopeful! anyhoo, i heard paul got it fixed?

Grims said:
Funny how people think everything was the fix. You got an entirely new device...don't you think just maybe it could had been that, not the update?
This just in setting my wallpaper to the beach boys fixed it for me
( actually I have never had a wake lock issue... not on 4.0.1 4.0.2 or 4.0.3)
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yeah... so much so that I'm not taking any updates until 4.0.3, and only after folks have had a chance to test it out and see how it performs.
Glad the beach boys fixed your issues, sure it wasn't your Justin Bieber ringtones?

This thread is misleading.
I have 4.0.1 and I have that high Android OS Keep awake time issue.
Again, that issue is not about battery life, but the keep awake of Android OS which is unusual.
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I just disabled google+ and vzw backup. Phone is doing far better on battery.
I also run a flat black bg, but i do the with everything.

ProTip - flash android 1.5 cupcake to your nexus for week long battery life.

6.0 and 6.0.1 coming in March / April

http://www.mobipicker.com/galaxy-s6-s6-edge-s6-edge-s5-note5-note-4-android-marshmallow-update/
First semi reliable info! Let the countdown begin!

This is when the international versions will begin to receive the update. Look for AT&T (and the other carriers) to hold that update at least 3 to 6 months extra to add their bloat.

Demodave said:
This is when the international versions will begin to receive the update. Look for AT&T (and the other carriers) to hold that update at least 3 to 6 months extra to add their bloat.
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Exactly. So we can seriously expect a release date sometime this summer to late summer. That is, IF ATT decides to release the update at all.
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Ill be long gone from this miserable POS before ATT gets off of their collective rear ends...

Iove my note 4 (just came back from the LG v10) but my biggest mistake was buying the AT&T version.
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MO3iusONE said:
Iove my note 4 (just came back from the LG v10) but my biggest mistake was buying the AT&T version.
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Me too!

I'm happy with mine, too. I got so obsessed with flashing Roms on my first 3 galaxies that I finally got burnt out on it. Sure, root would be nice, but I'm fine with the device as is. But I also don't have some of the issues I see other have. I've got no camera problems and I regularly get about 6 hours of screen on time. So, I'm good.

MO3iusONE said:
Iove my note 4 (just came back from the LG v10) but my biggest mistake was buying the AT&T version.
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Why?

jack man said:
I'm happy with mine, too. I got so obsessed with flashing Roms on my first 3 galaxies that I finally got burnt out on it. Sure, root would be nice, but I'm fine with the device as is. But I also don't have some of the issues I see other have. I've got no camera problems and I regularly get about 6 hours of screen on time. So, I'm good.
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6 HRS how? What is your setup?
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dpalmer76 said:
6 HRS how? What is your setup?
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That's quite a broad question but I'll try to give you details. I've disabled anything I don't use or that I know cause battery drain. There are several apps in the app manager that aren't "useable" apps, and they aren't in the app drawer, but cause significant battery drain - disabled without negative results. I switch between touchwiz and Nova Prime launchers (and have noticed no difference in battery drain). I keep things like wifi and Bluetooth disabled if I'm not using them. Auto brightness turned off. I keep location on but only on power saving mode unless I'm traveling out if town.
That's generally it, I guess...

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jack man said:
That's quite a broad question but I'll try to give you details. I've disabled anything I don't use or that I know cause battery drain. There are several apps in the app manager that aren't "useable" apps, and they aren't in the app drawer, but cause significant battery drain - disabled without negative results. I switch between touchwiz and Nova Prime launchers (and have noticed no difference in battery drain). I keep things like wifi and Bluetooth disabled if I'm not using them. Auto brightness turned off. I keep location on but only on power saving mode unless I'm traveling out if town.
That's generally it, I guess...
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Which apps did you disable if you don't mind me asking?

dpalmer76 said:
Which apps did you disable if you don't mind me asking?
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It's a long list. It was easier to just screenshot them. In the bottom two you can see my battery stats. I unplugged this morning around 7:15 AM and I'm down to about 47% after 8 hours and 3.5 hours screen-on time.
Today, I've checked email several times, had several phone calls, plus I've streamed youtube to a chromecast for classes that I teach, and even played a couple games during lunch. I do have lots of other apps I use, too; about 4-5 pages worth in my app drawer. Working well for me.

jack man said:
It's a long list. It was easier to just screenshot them. In the bottom two you can see my battery stats. I unplugged this morning around 7:15 AM and I'm down to about 47% after 8 hours and 3.5 hours screen-on time.
Today, I've checked email several times, had several phone calls, plus I've streamed youtube to a chromecast for classes that I teach, and even played a couple games during lunch. I do have lots of other apps I use, too; about 4-5 pages worth in my app drawer. Working well for me.
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Thank you! Will try this, I get about 4 now, hope this helps without breaking functionality. I use pushbullet and printing.
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Hi,
Will it be possible to update my device in another country that there is no AT&T services here. Last time in forum I saw some guys telling to use Kies to update and they said there are some pages but I couldn't find them either.
Can you help me to locate one of these pages, If exists; to be able to update my device automatically ? Everytime I update my device in my country I had to backup everything and put back again which is reallly painfull!

jack man said:
It's a long list. It was easier to just screenshot them. ....
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Geez, and I thought Verizon had a lot of bloat!

I jumped ship for a Nexus, but sprint is updating its note 4 to 6.0, so the info was accurate.

In other news, water's still wet...

annttiigs said:
Hi,
Will it be possible to update my device in another country that there is no AT&T services here. Last time in forum I saw some guys telling to use Kies to update and they said there are some pages but I couldn't find them either.
Can you help me to locate one of these pages, If exists; to be able to update my device automatically ? Everytime I update my device in my country I had to backup everything and put back again which is reallly painfull!
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Kies is one way, but it sometimes takes Kies a while to get the carrier-branded firmwares. (International firmware is almost instant on the other hand).
The fastest 2 ways to get the update would be to
1) use someone's activated ATT sim in your phone. Pop it in, boot up the phone, wait a few minutes for the sim to set itself up with your phone, then check for updates. Then download, install, and then put your original sim back in.
2) Use an Odin file. The only issue with this is that you most likely will have to start from scratch with your apps and settings. Be sure to back everything up first.
You'll also have to wait for the Odin files to be released by someone, but it'll be 100x sooner than Kies.
Edit: The latest 5.1.1 Odin files are in the first post here (you'll need all 4 files in the Dropbox link):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3230993
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Seems like there´s some light at the end of the tunnel, at leat regarding Marshmallow update, let´s just hope it won´t take long for AT&T to do the same.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/spri...y-note-4-note-5-and-s6-edge-plus-502214.shtml

My web browser updated last night. Looks like what's on the 6.0+ devices.

Anyway to disable this pop up when charging @ lock screen? "Safety Recall Notice"

Anyway to disable this pop up when charging @ lock screen? "Safety Recall Notice"
Anyway to disable this pop up screen when charging @ lock screen? "Safety Recall Notice"
FYI, I don't have root access.

most likely not the same as you will likely never be able to charge to 100%, the only way would be to roll back the firmware to a previous version then block updates if you plan on keeping the phone.

The only way is to change kernel.

Belimawr said:
most likely not the same as you will likely never be able to charge to 100%, the only way would be to roll back the firmware to a previous version then block updates if you plan on keeping the phone.
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Darn recall screen is very annoying. Every time when charging it pops up.

I just noticed, with wireless charging, I'm getting a message saying "irregular charging detected" and it pretty much pauses wireless charging as a result. Regular charging seems to be normal still, with no messages other than the lightning bolt in the battery... weird. No recall messages though (other than a text message from AT&T earlier this morning).
I'm wondering if I should bring it back tonight, or if I can hold out a few more days... ugh, the uncertainty :/ I kind of want to keep it a few more days, I'm hoping for another Samsung promotion, so I can pickup the VR.

svache said:
I just noticed, with wireless charging, I'm getting a message saying "irregular charging detected" and it pretty much pauses wireless charging as a result. Regular charging seems to be normal still, with no messages other than the lightning bolt in the battery... weird. No recall messages though (other than a text message from AT&T earlier this morning).
I'm wondering if I should bring it back tonight, or if I can hold out a few more days... ugh, the uncertainty :/ I kind of want to keep it a few more days, I'm hoping for another Samsung promotion, so I can pickup the VR.
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Damn brah, U R in Hawaii. U do NOT need the note 7 nor any phone. Shoot, just go out enjoy the beaches.
Which island?

PapaWangsta said:
Damn brah, U R in Hawaii. U do NOT need the note 7 nor any phone. Shoot, just go out enjoy the beaches.
Which island?
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Lol funny you mention, I'm actually about to enter my car to drive to Kaneohe to sail to the sandbar out there.
I'm on Oahu

svache said:
Lol funny you mention, I'm actually about to enter my car to drive to Kaneohe to sail to the sandbar out there.
I'm on Oahu
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I envy YOU yo. Every time when I @ Hawaii islands never been disappointed. Except everything cost 2x as much in nyc, that's the major disappointment. hahhaa.

PapaWangsta said:
I envy YOU yo. Every time when I @ Hawaii islands never been disappointed. Except everything cost 2x as much in nyc, that's the major disappointment. hahhaa.
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lol don't envy me too much.. I'm originally from Europe and after 8 years of just sun I can honestly say I miss seasons lol, that, plus I miss the ability to just get into my car and drive for hours without having to go in circles around the island

svache said:
lol don't envy me too much.. I'm originally from Europe and after 8 years of just sun I can honestly say I miss seasons lol, that, plus I miss the ability to just get into my car and drive for hours without having to go in circles around the island
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Yeah, sounds terrible.

PapaWangsta said:
Anyway to disable this pop up screen when charging @ lock screen? "Safety Recall Notice"
FYI, I don't have root access.
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backup your data, hard reset and turn off wifi and take out sim card, your rom should go back to normal and then use firewall and package disabler apps.
try not fo fly with the note, although very rare chance of it exploding and vaporising stuff.

I'd like to bring this thread back to life to see if anybody has gotten this recall notice to go away by disabling a package with Package Disabler Pro??
I have two Note 7s...the original I bought on launch day (that I was supposed to ship back) and the replacement Note 7. My replacement Note 7 is perfect...and I have package disabler pro on both to block the forced push updates to cripple my phones. BUT, the original Note 7 has the recall safety notice every time I plug it in, just like the OP. I would like to disable that pop-up. I have tried to disable a few packages, but to no avail.
Anyone?

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I'd like to bring this thread back to life to see if anybody has gotten this recall notice to go away by disabling a package with Package Disabler Pro??
I have two Note 7s...the original I bought on launch day (that I was supposed to ship back) and the replacement Note 7. My replacement Note 7 is perfect...and I have package disabler pro on both to block the forced push updates to cripple my phones. BUT, the original Note 7 has the recall safety notice every time I plug it in, just like the OP. I would like to disable that pop-up. I have tried to disable a few packages, but to no avail.
Anyone?
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I'm still using my original N7, and have disabled the updates from the packages disabler pro. Shoot, no updates yet on my N7. Still got the 100% battery. With my fingers crossed. The only thing bugs me is the safety recall popups when charging.
Check the screen shot.

PapaWangsta said:
I'm still using my original N7, and have disabled the updates from the packages disabler pro. Shoot, no updates yet on my N7. Still got the 100% battery. With my fingers crossed. The only thing bugs me is the safety recall popups when charging.
Check the screen shot.
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Hi
can you please share the details of your N7 firmware, how can you still having 100% charge with warning and without any update.
thanks.

Rajaqaiser said:
Hi
can you please share the details of your N7 firmware, how can you still having 100% charge with warning and without any update.
thanks.
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Im on t mobile, but I bought my n7 from samsung.com not my carrier. My phone still is the 1st Gen, I did received the 1st update which supposed to limit the battery to 60%. But my still @100%. It charges, operates and discharges normally from 100%. Tmobile supposed to sending out over the air firmwares update but I have package disabler on. Let me ... my fingers crossed.

PapaWangsta said:
I'm still using my original N7, and have disabled the updates from the packages disabler pro. Shoot, no updates yet on my N7. Still got the 100% battery. With my fingers crossed. The only thing bugs me is the safety recall popups when charging.
Check the screen shot.
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Get the Package Disabler PRO V6.3 and disable the Samsung Push Service box. Or delete the Samsung Account from the phone.
boom! ?
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PapaWangsta said:
Im on t mobile, but I bought my n7 from samsung.com not my carrier. My phone still is the 1st Gen, I did received the 1st update which supposed to limit the battery to 60%. But my still @100%. It charges, operates and discharges normally from 100%. Tmobile supposed to sending out over the air firmwares update but I have package disabler on. Let me ... my fingers crossed.
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Im going to correct you:
That first update you are talking about is the "green battery" update. If you had the replacement device, that update turns your battery indicator green. If you had the original device (like you do), it adds the warning that I am talking about in my post above and that you are talking about here. That first update wasn't supposed to max your battery at 60%.

andoxviii said:
Im going to correct you:
That first update you are talking about is the "green battery" update. If you had the replacement device, that update turns your battery indicator green. If you had the original device (like you do), it adds the warning that I am talking about in my post above and that you are talking about here. That first update wasn't supposed to max your battery at 60%.
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Correct. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm still on my 1st gen. the battery still white and is @ 100%.

PapaWangsta said:
Correct. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm still on my 1st gen. the battery still white and is @ 100%.
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Same here. Is there any way of getting rid of that popup?
I'm with Videotron and I flashed AP_N930W8VLU2API3_CL8706648_QB10937043_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT_meta.tar after I got the forced 60% update.
I tried flashing AP_N930W8VLU1APH1_CL8706648_QB10528368_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT_meta.tar but it fails, is this normal?

BTW FOLKS next update knocks us off the networks. They are killing the phone. On phone with escalations depts for sprint and samsung all night 4+ hours and they are basically saying to buy an s7 instead of the note 7 and then buy the new phone if/when it comes out.

Update M9E41Y today - what's in the update?

Getting prompted to update to M9E41Y. Can't find any news about the update. Does anyone know what is in this update?
- Z

I just took the update. Now shows December 1 for security date.
Not sure what else was updated.
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It's just a security patch. BTW, I've already created a thread before you

Am not receiving any notification on my watch anyone having that problem

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Here last week the v, today the y

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Here last week the v, today the y
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Opps, missed that subtle difference! I wonder if that fixes my Sleep as Android getting killed every night just after midnight?

I just installed it and hoping for better battery performance lower than 60% because its been dismal recently.

DONT DOWNLOAD THIS UPDATE.
i didn't heed the warnings of others and updated. i haven't seen disconnect issues like this since the early days of android wear. you are better off with the 2.0 preview

WaxysDargle said:
DONT DOWNLOAD THIS UPDATE.
i didn't heed the warnings of others and updated. i haven't seen disconnect issues like this since the early days of android wear. you are better off with the 2.0 preview
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Must be an isolated case. I've been on this update for a week and don't experience any connection issues.

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Must be an isolated case. I've been on this update for a week and don't experience any connection issues.
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it isn't just me!

Update has taken fine for me, not a single disconnect. I did enable Developer Mode which I hadn't done before, not sure if that aids the watch or gives it aids.
Battery life is better! I am currently at 50% battery after 30 hours off charge. I'll see if it lasts another 24+ hours.
EDIT: 24hr later, down to 5%. Steady decline, moderate screen on time. Still no issues with notifications/disconnects.

Factory Reset To Improve Battery Life

I got my Pixel 2 XL on 10/24/2017. From the day I got it until the February update the battery life was incredible. I was getting up to 9 hours SOT and 40 hours off the charger. The February update resulted in a noticeable decrease in battery life. The March update made it even worse. I'm now getting up to 6 hours SOT over 24 hours off the charger. I got the April update yesterday morning and despite the release notes mentioning 4 different battery life "improvements" it hasn't improved. It's still only a day after the April update but it seems like it might have gotten even worse.
I'm considering doing a factor reset but it's really a pain in the ass. Backup data, reset, reinstall and configure apps, restore data, reload music, etc. From start to finish it's a several hour process.
My question is, has anyone else with decreased battery life done a factory reset? Does it actually fix the decrease in battery life caused by the February and March updates? If it will really make a difference I'll go ahead and spend the time but I'd hate to waste the time to have it be the same after I'm done.

jimv1983 said:
I got my Pixel 2 XL on 10/24/2017. From the day I got it until the February update the battery life was incredible. I was getting up to 9 hours SOT and 40 hours off the charger. The February update resulted in a noticeable decrease in battery life. The March update made it even worse. I'm now getting up to 6 hours SOT over 24 hours off the charger. I got the April update yesterday morning and despite the release notes mentioning 4 different battery life "improvements" it hasn't improved. It's still only a day after the April update but it seems like it might have gotten even worse.
I'm considering doing a factor reset but it's really a pain in the ass. Backup data, reset, reinstall and configure apps, restore data, reload music, etc. From start to finish it's a several hour process.
My question is, has anyone else with decreased battery life done a factory reset? Does it actually fix the decrease in battery life caused by the February and March updates? If it will really make a difference I'll go ahead and spend the time but I'd hate to waste the time to have it be the same after I'm done.
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I was hesitant to admit it but my battery probably isn't as good as it was the first 3 months. I never got the numbers you did but comparing old screenshots to what I get now, both SOT and off the charger numbers have declined.
I've been contemplating doing a factory reset sooner than usual. I usually wait for 1 year with my phone but I might do it at 6 months, end of April, just to see. Would be nice to see someone confirm it helps or debunk that it doesn't.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I was hesitant to admit it but my battery probably isn't as good as it was the first 3 months. I never got the numbers you did but comparing old screenshots to what I get now, both SOT and off the charger numbers have declined.
I've been contemplating doing a factory reset sooner than usual. I usually wait for 1 year with my phone but I might do it at 6 months, end of April, just to see. Would be nice to see someone confirm it helps or debunk that it doesn't.
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You mentioned that you usually wait a year before doing a factory reset. Has it had any impact on battery life when you've done it in the past?
Just for a reference here is an old screen shot I still have. It was taken in late November/early December. Off charger is only about 19 hours but with 9% battery left which would easily get to 40 hours in stand by back then.

Great question mate. I thought i was the only one have similar issue. I had great or say exceptional battery life in December update or earlier. But as more and more updates came battery life decreased. I had almost 9 hours SOT but now after underclocking, greenify , servicly etc it harldy reaches 5.5 hours SOT. Earlier i hardly needed to underclock or needed any help of battery saver apps. I wonder wat it could be hardware issue or software.
And to answer your question i clean wipe my phone before any new updates twice to make sure m not have any issues due to previous software. And yes i take all that pain to backup my data n then setup whole 35gb+ data again every month.

It's probably overkill, but I factory reset every month when I get the security update. Since I've been doing that, I have not had problems with battery, or anything else for that matter. Can't say for sure that's why, but I'm a believer.

jmartin72 said:
It's probably overkill, but I factory reset every month when I get the security update. Since I've been doing that, I have not had problems with battery, or anything else for that matter. Can't say for sure that's why, but I'm a believer.
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It might be overkill my friend, but I bet you don't have many issues with your device either ????
I'm not quite that diligent, but I'll do the full wipe and FR every 3 months to keep things clean. I don't have any issues either ??

I am on my second day of the April security patch and my battery life has gotten much worse. I got it launch day and I have always gotten 5-6 hours SoT for 18 hours off charge and still have 30% battery left. Yesterday I got 3.5 SoT for 18 hours and was at 4% when I plugged it in. I never had any adverse effect of battery life with the monthly patches until now. I havent factory reset since I bought the phone.

My battery life has gotten worse as well. It drains 10% hour just at idle. Mine was also incredible until the Feb-April updates. I'm considering doing a factory reset, or root it.

jimv1983 said:
You mentioned that you usually wait a year before doing a factory reset. Has it had any impact on battery life when you've done it in the past?
Just for a reference here is an old screen shot I still have. It was taken in late November/early December. Off charger is only about 19 hours but with 9% battery left which would easily get to 40 hours in stand by back then.
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Sometimes I wonder if it's just the degradation of the battery in general like what's happened with the iPhone 6's and even 7s. If I could get a replacement for $25 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I would certainly try a factory reset at this point, I might even do it one day when I have the wherewithal to reinstall everything. But if you do it then run full stock for a day or so adding only the apps that you desperately need to function. Then if the battery life improves dramatically slowly start adding all the junk back in and see what happens.
I'd be curious to know myself but as I said I'm not at that point yet. Close though. I'd also run Better Battery Stats and see what kind of partial wakelocks and alarms you are getting. My fitness band drains a lot especially when active so I've taken to plugging in for a half hour when I'm done with the workout to give it a bump. Love the fast charge.
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mrwicked said:
My battery life has gotten worse as well. It drains 10% hour just at idle. Mine was also incredible until the Feb-April updates. I'm considering doing a factory reset, or root it.
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Did you mean 1% / hour or 10? If it's 10% then you definitely need to reset or find out what is going on.

bobby janow said:
Sometimes I wonder if it's just the degradation of the battery in general like what's happened with the iPhone 6's and even 7s. If I could get a replacement for $25 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I would certainly try a factory reset at this point, I might even do it one day when I have the wherewithal to reinstall everything. But if you do it then run full stock for a day or so adding only the apps that you desperately need to function. Then if the battery life improves dramatically slowly start adding all the junk back in and see what happens.
I'd be curious to know myself but as I said I'm not at that point yet. Close though. I'd also run Better Battery Stats and see what kind of partial wakelocks and alarms you are getting. My fitness band drains a lot especially when active so I've taken to plugging in for a half hour when I'm done with the workout to give it a bump. Love the fast charge.
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Did you mean 1% / hour or 10? If it's 10% then you definitely need to reset or find out what is going on.
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I did mean 10% lol. I took off charger at 6:45 am ,its now 8:13 here and sitting at 88%. Just a few text is all I have done this am so far.

mrwicked said:
I did mean 10% lol. I took off charger at 6:45 am ,its now 8:13 here and sitting at 88%. Just a few text is all I have done this am so far.
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That's terrible. My phone has been off charger for the same amount of time and it's sitting at 99%. Email, browsing etc. You should get BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and try to figure out what is happening. Long OP but worth the effort.
PS. I'm on a Pixel 2 not the XL which has an even smaller battery than you do. I find that these devices (other than for root) are pretty much the same when it comes to things like this. Some have criticized me for cross posting but I really don't pay them much mind.

bobby janow said:
That's terrible. My phone has been off charger for the same amount of time and it's sitting at 99%. Email, browsing etc. You should get BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and try to figure out what is happening. Long OP but worth the effort.
PS. I'm on a Pixel 2 not the XL which has an even smaller battery than you do. I find that these devices (other than for root) are pretty much the same when it comes to things like this. Some have criticized me for cross posting but I really don't pay them much mind.
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My phone used to be like that before the Feb update. I haven't used BBS since I was rooted with the original XL. I'll give it a shot. Otherwise I'm going reset it. Just a pin the arse lol

bobby janow said:
Sometimes I wonder if it's just the degradation of the battery in general like what's happened with the iPhone 6's and even 7s. If I could get a replacement for $25 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I would certainly try a factory reset at this point, I might even do it one day when I have the wherewithal to reinstall everything. But if you do it then run full stock for a day or so adding only the apps that you desperately need to function. Then if the battery life improves dramatically slowly start adding all the junk back in and see what happens.
I'd be curious to know myself but as I said I'm not at that point yet. Close though. I'd also run Better Battery Stats and see what kind of partial wakelocks and alarms you are getting. My fitness band drains a lot especially when active so I've taken to plugging in for a half hour when I'm done with the workout to give it a bump. Love the fast charge.
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Batteries do degrade. That's just a fact. However, I don't think that's what's going on here. Battery degradation is something that happens gradually over a long period of time. It shouldn't be noticable after only 5 months even if you do things that accelerate it. Plus, since it is gradual it shouldn't result in a sudden overnight drop. Fine one day, do an update, much worse the next day.
bobby janow said:
That's terrible. My phone has been off charger for the same amount of time and it's sitting at 99%. Email, browsing etc. You should get BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and try to figure out what is happening. Long OP but worth the effort.
PS. I'm on a Pixel 2 not the XL which has an even smaller battery than you do. I find that these devices (other than for root) are pretty much the same when it comes to things like this. Some have criticized me for cross posting but I really don't pay them much mind.
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Doesn't BBS require root? I'd like to use BBS but if it requires root I don't want to risk it.

jimv1983 said:
Batteries do degrade. That's just a fact. However, I don't think that's what's going on here. Battery degradation is something that happens gradually over a long period of time. It shouldn't be noticable after only 5 months even if you do things that accelerate it. Plus, since it is gradual it shouldn't result in a sudden overnight drop. Fine one day, do an update, much worse the next day.
Doesn't BBS require root? I'd like to use BBS but if it requires root I don't want to risk it.
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Yes, you are correct it should take longer than 5 months. On my OG Pixel that happened after a year and it was slight. I really noticed it when my GPS completely just crapped out and Verizon sent me a refurb / new one (couldn't tell it was in great condition). But after that the battery life was back to when I first got it. I hope it's not the update that did this.
BBS does not need root. I've been running it for close to 2 years with no root on my 5X, Pixel and now the Pixel 2. There is a command in the OP I think it's in post #3 that has a command you enter in adb (no root $) that will give you all the statistics that root would give you. I believe its heading is something like: "If you don't have root..." If you can't find it let me know since I know it's a very long 3 or 4 OP posts.
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mrwicked said:
My phone used to be like that before the Feb update. I haven't used BBS since I was rooted with the original XL. I'll give it a shot. Otherwise I'm going reset it. Just a pin the arse lol
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Believe me I know. It's why I haven't done it so far.

The April update has severely impacted my battery life in a positive way. That said....I'd run in Safe Mode a day or 2 to see if that brings battery life back to par if I'm having issues before nuking with a factory reset.

I do a factory reset after any major update...and the April update was a major maintenance release so I did a reset. Before that, I did a reset in March (just because I had time off and was bored), and prior to that, I did a reset after I got my phone in December and it updated to 8.1 out of the box.
The April update seems to have improved my standby power draw a bit, that's about it. My battery life has been consistent since I bought it.

bobby janow said:
Yes, you are correct it should take longer than 5 months. On my OG Pixel that happened after a year and it was slight. I really noticed it when my GPS completely just crapped out and Verizon sent me a refurb / new one (couldn't tell it was in great condition). But after that the battery life was back to when I first got it. I hope it's not the update that did this.
BBS does not need root. I've been running it for close to 2 years with no root on my 5X, Pixel and now the Pixel 2. There is a command in the OP I think it's in post #3 that has a command you enter in adb (no root $) that will give you all the statistics that root would give you. I believe its heading is something like: "If you don't have root..." If you can't find it let me know since I know it's a very long 3 or 4 OP posts.
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Does the ADB method do anything to the phone that would cause a warranty or insurance claim to be denied if it was detected? That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from rooting.
AndrasLOHF said:
The April update has severely impacted my battery life in a positive way. That said....I'd run in Safe Mode a day or 2 to see if that brings battery life back to par if I'm having issues before nuking with a factory reset.
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I haven't tried safe mode in years but I remember it doing strange things to my phone. I don't even remember what it did since it was so long ago I just remember a hassel getting back to normal usage after going back to normal mode so I've been hesitant to do it again.

jimv1983 said:
Does the ADB method do anything to the phone that would cause a warranty or insurance claim to be denied if it was detected? That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from rooting.
I haven't tried safe mode in years but I remember it doing strange things to my phone. I don't even remember what it did since it was so long ago I just remember a hassel getting back to normal usage after going back to normal mode so I've been hesitant to do it again.
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Unlocking the bootloader doesn't not void your warranty. As far as root goes, if you fastboot a factory image, it'll completely wipe your phone and no one would be the wiser

jimv1983 said:
Does the ADB method do anything to the phone that would cause a warranty or insurance claim to be denied if it was detected? That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from rooting.
I haven't tried safe mode in years but I remember it doing strange things to my phone. I don't even remember what it did since it was so long ago I just remember a hassel getting back to normal usage after going back to normal mode so I've been hesitant to do it again.
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The adb method will do nothing that can be detected or cause a warranty issue. Just delete the BBS app. At this point or for your issue I'm not sure what root will give you other than agita. I'm not a fan of safe mode either. It always caused weird stuff to happen. You can read this and they kind of confirm that 3rd party apps might cause issues. I'd just do a factory reset if you can't see what is happening with BBS.
https://www.getdroidtips.com/boot-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl-safe-mode/

Interestingly enough I decided to factory reset after the April update. My battery life was awful today after the update and was already about to die. I had 31% battery according to the phone before the reset. After I factory reset the phone turned on and read 51% battery. Just find that a little odd. Will see if battery life improves now and report back.