Will verizon htc one work with non-US gsm carriers? - Verizon HTC One (M7)

Hello,
I intend to buy verizon htc one on ebay. I can't buy unlocked version as because of tax regulations in my state can't pay more than $170, so my area of choise is quite limited.
http://www.wirelesszone.com/phones-devices/smartphones/htc-one/manufacturer/htc
Here is written, that it is a global device. What do they mean? How do you think, will it work outside US without necessity to unlock?
Thanks.

Verizon HTC one comes SIM unlocked out of the box. It supports edge 850/900/1800/1900mhz and hspa 900/2100mhz. It may or may not already have your carrier's apn preloaded.
This has been answered in the F.A.Q. sticky in this section.
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Buying GN from US and use it in Australia

I was just wandering that since Australian market hasn't been hit with 32gb models, I could possibly order one of the verizon devices from the US.
The particular one I am looking at is on the ebay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-NEXUS-4G-VERIZON-LTE-GOOGLE-ANDROID-SAMSUNG-32GB-/300654421553
Are there any potential issues that I should be aware of, when using this device in Australia?
sadikhov77 said:
I was just wandering that since Australian market hasn't been hit with 32gb models, I could possibly order one of the verizon devices from the US.
The particular one I am looking at is on the ebay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-NEXUS-4G-VERIZON-LTE-GOOGLE-ANDROID-SAMSUNG-32GB-/300654421553
Are there any potential issues that I should be aware of, when using this device in Australia?
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Does Australia have lte networks?
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Herman76 said:
Does Australia have lte networks?
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LTE? Is it 4g? Only one provider has 4g network so far. The one I am on now, doesn't support it yet from what i know.
for that price ill sell ya mine..lol...ill wait for another better phone this year from Verizon..lol
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LTE is what they call 4G now, but it really isn't. A LTE phone will only work on a LTE network (correct me if I'm wrong, since I only have GSM version).
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The device is locked to Verizon so don't buy it. You want a GSM handset
what confuses me is that they send it worldwide and it says to support GSM
Also, if it is locked, wouldn't it be possible to unlock it just by loading one of a custom rom from this forum?
wish777 said:
for that price ill sell ya mine..lol...ill wait for another better phone this year from Verizon..lol
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Australian residents only get priority over others in the world when it comes to getting ripped off. See what it costs in local stores:
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-galaxy-nexus-32gb.html#.TyqMXfnmdpg
It won't work at all in here. All the Australian carriers have GSM networks while the one you linked to is a CDMA phone.
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The specs shown in the OP link looks like it's Galaxy Nexus in general (not just the LTE version). The LTE network is not operational in Norway (do correct me if im wrong), and since it wasn't operational at launch time of the Nexus they decided not to import the LTE version to Norway.
I can't understand they would do that unless the LTE version won't work on regular GSM networks.
This link says that it is NOT a GSM device, and will not work worldwide.
sadikhov77 said:
what confuses me is that they send it worldwide and it says to support GSM
Also, if it is locked, wouldn't it be possible to unlock it just by loading one of a custom rom from this forum?
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It also uses MicroSIM (ala-iPhone) - it's just not worth the hassle. Get a GSM Nexus if you want one
Herman76 said:
The specs shown in the OP link looks like it's Galaxy Nexus in general (not just the LTE version). The LTE network is not operational in Norway (do correct me if im wrong), and since it wasn't operational at launch time of the Nexus they decided not to import the LTE version to Norway.
I can't understand they would do that unless the LTE version won't work on regular GSM networks.
This link says that it is NOT a GSM device, and will not work worldwide.
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Yeah... the title says 4G LTE Verizon, but all the specs are for the i9250. I'd get 100% confirmation from the seller first because OP needs the GSM i9250 version, not i515.
Herman76 said:
I can't understand they would do that unless the LTE version won't work on regular GSM networks.
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You could use the LTE Nexus as LTE-only on a carrier with GSM and LTE. However, the Nexus only supports LTE Band 13, which means your carrier would also have to be using Band 13. So far, Verizon is the only carrier on earth that uses Band 13.
Making it more complicated, your carrier would have to have implemented Voice over LTE and IMS SMS otherwise your phone would be data only and unable to receive calls/text messages.
sadikhov77 said:
I was just wandering that since Australian market hasn't been hit with 32gb models, I could possibly order one of the verizon devices from the US.
The particular one I am looking at is on the ebay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-NEXUS-4G-VERIZON-LTE-GOOGLE-ANDROID-SAMSUNG-32GB-/300654421553
Are there any potential issues that I should be aware of, when using this device in Australia?
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Get it from hand tech
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...gb-i9250--sim-free-unlocked--titanium-silver-
This is the one you are looking for. Price would be excluding VAT since you're shipping it internationally.
elevation_2 said:
Get it from hand tech
This is the one you are looking for. Price would be excluding VAT since you're shipping it internationally.
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Thanks, but this is 16gb version, I can get that in AU for a bit cheaper price. 32Gb GSM is way more expensive here than in the US.
Do not get the verizon 32gb version as it will NOT work anywhere in australia. It is a cdma and lte phone, not gsm.
If you want the 32GB GSM version then you first have to wait for it to be released
March 1st apparently
sadikhov77 said:
Thanks, but this is 16gb version, I can get that in AU for a bit cheaper price. 32Gb GSM is way more expensive here than in the US.
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The 32gb GSM version isn't for sale yet.
The 32gb version in the US is the Verizon one.

No International version....:(

I'm looking at the Phone right now and it doen NOT have any slot to insert a SIM card..
I guess is not an International version.
You can call while international on GSM...I believe it is $0.02 a minute for UK to US
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Jcossack88 said:
You can call while international on GSM...I believe it is $0.02 a minute for UK to US
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I'm talking about to been able to use your phone overseas with a GSM carrier. Not only in UK ..
The GSM SIM is embedded and not user accessible. If you want to travel and use the phone you are stuck getting screwed by Sprints roaming rates. The iphone 5 and Photon Q are the same way. It's bullsh*t to call them world phones at this point. You could take the phone apart and access the SIM, but then you'd still have to get it unlocked.
I think part of the reason is so many were buying world phones on contract, billing it to the account and selling them overseas and not paying a dime on the account. With all the fraud, I think they took the most drastic route possible. Still BS to screw its traveling customers. People will still find a way if they want to commit fraud. They always do. And we pay for it one way or the other.
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Is this only missing in the Sprint Version? Verizon? I imagine the US GSM variants don't have this issue. Anyone know for sure?
It's purely a Sprint thing. Verizon, by law, can't lock their LTE phones, not even locally. Hence the iphone 5 on Verizon can be used on Tmo and AT&T as well as overseas with other SIMs.
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I got mine from Hong Kong which came with the SIM slot. can not image those locked to a carrier with an embedded SIM... Would those be much cheaper than the generic ones?
welcome to the world of CDMA carriers, ie. Verizon and Sprint. That was the general rule of thumb. You're locked into one or the other when in the US, but if you travel overseas, you were generally free to pop in a local SIM for cheap service. I think the Verizon version will allow it as well as being unlocked for local service due to the FCC. This is a first for international CDMA phones. Sprint, using different bandwidth for their LTE doesn't have that restriction so to speak. And embedding the GSM SIM is new for them. It hasn't been their MO up until the new LTE phones hit.
wow great stuff, thxxx
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welcome to the world of CDMA carriers, ie. Verizon and Sprint. That was the general rule of thumb. You're locked into one or the other when in the US, but if you travel overseas, you were generally free to pop in a local SIM for cheap service. I think the Verizon version will allow it as well as being unlocked for local service due to the FCC. This is a first for international CDMA phones. Sprint, using different bandwidth for their LTE doesn't have that restriction so to speak. And embedding the GSM SIM is new for them. It hasn't been their MO up until the new LTE phones hit.
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Yes unfortunately this seems to be a Sprint trend on all new international phones. A move which I am not pleased with. What I wasn't sure of is if Verizon was following suit. Can anyone confirm embedded Simms in any of Verizons new international phones? I'd like to see Sprint reverse this policy but it probably won't happen until a lawsuit our FCC ruling against them.
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Verizon htc one global ready

Hi im getting the Htc One and iwas wondering if anybody knows if the verizon variant comes Sim unlocked as the other verizon Phones (xt912,Lg,etc.)
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I'm pretty sure all new Verizon LTE phones are unlocked because that was an agreement made with the FCC during the 700MHz spectrum auction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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josh995 said:
I'm pretty sure all new Verizon LTE phones are unlocked because that was an agreement made with the FCC during the 700MHz spectrum auction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you are correct
I called Verizon twice about this very thing since I'm about to go overseas. Both times they assured me that the SIM card was unlocked. Going to take my old phone just in case....
xene97 said:
I called Verizon twice about this very thing since I'm about to go overseas. Both times they assured me that the SIM card was unlocked. Going to take my old phone just in case....
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I don't think the Sim card is unlocked... Its the phone itself. You'd need to get a Sim over where you are going.
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cstrife999 said:
I don't think the Sim card is unlocked... Its the phone itself. You'd need to get a Sim over where you are going.
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Apologies. I meant that the SIM card slot was carrier unlocked, not the SIM card itself. Naturally you would have to purchase a SIM at the destination.
So does anyone know fir certain if it is GSM unlocked?
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dryver8 said:
So does anyone know fir certain if it is GSM unlocked?
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yes it is...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ocked-vs-unlocked-phones-ask-maggie-explains/
Verizon 4G LTE devices are unlocked out of the box
One thing to note here in terms of software phone locks is that all Verizon 4G LTE smartphones come unlocked out of the box. The reason why is that the spectrum Verizon is using to build its 4G LTE network had restrictions put on it by the Federal Communications Commission, which required the company to allow "open access" to the network. So as part of this provision, Verizon has decided not to lock those devices. That said, its 3G devices are locked.
So what does this mean for the average consumer? Let's take the iPhone 5 as an example. It's a 4G LTE device. A Verizon version of this phone comes unlocked out of the box. There aren't special codes that need to be entered in order to use it on another carrier's network. But because of the spectrum differences I mentioned above, a Verizon iPhone 5 won't operate on AT&T's LTE network. It will operate on AT&T's 3G network, which is based on GSM. So this means you can use the Verizon iPhone on AT&T, but you won't get the fastest Internet speeds on it.
The same is true if you take the Verizon iPhone 5 to Europe. You can swap out the SIM card and put in another carrier's SIM card, but the device will operate only on a GSM-based 3G network. And it won't operate on a faster LTE network.
And even though the phone is unlocked and uses the same CDMA technology and some of the same radio frequency channels as Sprint, an unlocked iPhone 5 won't operate on Sprint.

[Q] Which Flavor M8 to buy

I am on net10 using AT&T's network. I picked up the at&t m8 full price retail but I am thinking about returning it for the unlocked version or verizon version on HTCs website. I hate all this AT&T bloatware and plan to use it on other carriers or resell it when the next wave of flagships come along. But I have some questions about the capabilities of the different versions I was hoping you gurus could help me with.
1) Factory Unlocked M8 : I am unsure of the Root status and which carrier tree this would fall under and also AT&T LTE Support.
2) Verizon M8: I read that phone doesn't support AT&T LTE and only HSPA+? I also read that this phone will be entered into verizon's database so it would be more valuable resell down the road as you could use it with verizon or at&t? ( i have never been a verizon customer so don't know the benefit or process for bringing your own phone)
Thanks for your feedback!
Dev unlock and flash what ever ROM you need. I have t mobile with s-off and super Cid. I am using stock GPE ROM. No complaints
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Difference between models XT1952-1,-2,-4

I know that the XT1952-4 is the unlocked version for CDMA and GSM and technically has all the bands for all the carriers.
I am seeing XT1952-1 & XT1952-2 listed as global/international models but can not find any definitive documentation detailing the differences between the 2.
I am going to be getting one of these for my wife. We use Cricket (AT&T) currently. If we were to switch, it would likely be another AT&T MVNO, but we wouldn't rule out T-Mobile (or their MVNOs). CDMA (Verizon/Sprint) likely wouldn't be considered, so I don't need to get the XT-1952-4 version. I can save about $30 going for the XT1952-1 or XT1952-2. The question is...which one? What are the differences? Single/dual sim? Bands?
Any clarity?
Thanks!
mn1968 said:
I know that the XT1952-4 is the unlocked version for CDMA and GSM and technically has all the bands for all the carriers.
I am seeing XT1952-1 & XT1952-2 listed as global/international models but can not find any definitive documentation detailing the differences between the 2.
I am going to be getting one of these for my wife. We use Cricket (AT&T) currently. If we were to switch, it would likely be another AT&T MVNO, but we wouldn't rule out T-Mobile (or their MVNOs). CDMA (Verizon/Sprint) likely wouldn't be considered, so I don't need to get the XT-1952-4 version. I can save about $30 going for the XT1952-1 or XT1952-2. The question is...which one? What are the differences? Single/dual sim? Bands?
Any clarity?
Thanks!
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You will definitely want to go with the US model (XT1952-4), and not any of the international models. The US model has the necessary compatibility for US carriers, while the international models will not have those bands (for example, the US model supports T-Mobile's new 600MHz signal, which is not present on the international models). Additionally, international models will not have many carrier-specific features, such as VoLTE support and RCS, that you will only get with the US model.
Thanks for the advice!
I've come across am XT1952-4 for a good price, however, it is advertised for Sprint only. How could this be if it is truly an XT1952-4? False ad or misinformed seller???
Thoughts?
mn1968 said:
I've come across am XT1952-4 for a good price, however, it is advertised for Sprint only. How could this be if it is truly an XT1952-4? False ad or misinformed seller???
Thoughts?
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If you are in the US purchase from a reputable retailer such as B&H that posts accurate info on phone models and capabilities while providing a solid return policy. Amazon, eBay, Walmart, etc are crap shoots...never really know what you're getting.
mn1968 said:
I've come across am XT1952-4 for a good price, however, it is advertised for Sprint only. How could this be if it is truly an XT1952-4? False ad or misinformed seller???
Thoughts?
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It's probably a model purchased from Sprint/a Sprint-related MVNO, and is locked to the Sprint network.
xtermmin said:
It's probably a model purchased from Sprint/a Sprint-related MVNO, and is locked to the Sprint network.
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That is correct. I own a Boost Mobile (Sprint subsidiary) xt1952-4 which is locked to the Sprint network out of the box. The Sprint variant xt1952-4 is supported for bootloader unlocking via Motorola's official unlocking portal.
Viva La Android said:
That is correct. I own a Boost Mobile (Sprint subsidiary) xt1952-4 which is locked to the Sprint network out of the box. The Sprint variant xt1952-4 is supported for bootloader unlocking via Motorola's official unlocking portal.
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Bootloader unlock is cool. But is it possible to sim unlock for other networks, or are there hoops to jump through?
mn1968 said:
Bootloader unlock is cool. But is it possible to sim unlock for other networks, or are there hoops to jump through?
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That's a great question. Traditionally, Sprint doesn't make it simple for its branded devices to gain network/SIM unlocking or full GSM support and operability. They resort to encryption embedded partitions to network lock their devices. For example, the Sprint compatible Moto E (2nd Gen) from 2015 has yet to be exploited for GSM support. But, the Moto E4 (xt1766) was recently exploited for GSM functionality (but only if the device was never upgraded beyond a certain firmware build). On the xt1952-4, I've yet to hear of anybody network unlocking it, but again I have not researched it much.
For anyone that's interested, as of today (12/6/19), eBay and direct from Motorola have the XT1952-4 fully unlocked (all network compatible model) on sale for $129. Don't know how long the sale will last.
The model you want is the XT-1952-4 PAE80008US. The QA section on BH Photo confirms that PAE80008US is the unlocked Retail US model
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1455105-REG/moto_pae80008us_g7_play_32gb_smartphone.html/qa

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