Hi im getting the Htc One and iwas wondering if anybody knows if the verizon variant comes Sim unlocked as the other verizon Phones (xt912,Lg,etc.)
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I'm pretty sure all new Verizon LTE phones are unlocked because that was an agreement made with the FCC during the 700MHz spectrum auction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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josh995 said:
I'm pretty sure all new Verizon LTE phones are unlocked because that was an agreement made with the FCC during the 700MHz spectrum auction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you are correct
I called Verizon twice about this very thing since I'm about to go overseas. Both times they assured me that the SIM card was unlocked. Going to take my old phone just in case....
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I called Verizon twice about this very thing since I'm about to go overseas. Both times they assured me that the SIM card was unlocked. Going to take my old phone just in case....
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I don't think the Sim card is unlocked... Its the phone itself. You'd need to get a Sim over where you are going.
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I don't think the Sim card is unlocked... Its the phone itself. You'd need to get a Sim over where you are going.
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Apologies. I meant that the SIM card slot was carrier unlocked, not the SIM card itself. Naturally you would have to purchase a SIM at the destination.
So does anyone know fir certain if it is GSM unlocked?
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So does anyone know fir certain if it is GSM unlocked?
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yes it is...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ocked-vs-unlocked-phones-ask-maggie-explains/
Verizon 4G LTE devices are unlocked out of the box
One thing to note here in terms of software phone locks is that all Verizon 4G LTE smartphones come unlocked out of the box. The reason why is that the spectrum Verizon is using to build its 4G LTE network had restrictions put on it by the Federal Communications Commission, which required the company to allow "open access" to the network. So as part of this provision, Verizon has decided not to lock those devices. That said, its 3G devices are locked.
So what does this mean for the average consumer? Let's take the iPhone 5 as an example. It's a 4G LTE device. A Verizon version of this phone comes unlocked out of the box. There aren't special codes that need to be entered in order to use it on another carrier's network. But because of the spectrum differences I mentioned above, a Verizon iPhone 5 won't operate on AT&T's LTE network. It will operate on AT&T's 3G network, which is based on GSM. So this means you can use the Verizon iPhone on AT&T, but you won't get the fastest Internet speeds on it.
The same is true if you take the Verizon iPhone 5 to Europe. You can swap out the SIM card and put in another carrier's SIM card, but the device will operate only on a GSM-based 3G network. And it won't operate on a faster LTE network.
And even though the phone is unlocked and uses the same CDMA technology and some of the same radio frequency channels as Sprint, an unlocked iPhone 5 won't operate on Sprint.
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So I'm thinking of buying a Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
I know it has a sim tray so i'm wondering if it can be unlocked for T-Mobile.
Any help would be appreciated.
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So I'm thinking of buying a Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
I know it has a sim tray so i'm wondering if it can be unlocked for T-Mobile.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Why wouldn't you buy the GSM version?
It wont work. Different technologies.
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Why wouldn't you buy the GSM version?
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Because that would make sense.
Yea, It's just that the guy told me it has a sim tray so i figured i would post here to find out.
Anyone know where I can get the GSM version?
I don't want to pay $500 but ...
Thanks all
Try Negri Electronics
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Yea, It's just that the guy told me it has a sim tray so i figured i would post here to find out.
Anyone know where I can get the GSM version?
I don't want to pay $500 but ...
Thanks all
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Sim tray maybe but the vzw one is cdma and the GSM one is...well..GSM.
Different technologies! Not compatible.
I have the Verizon phone and yes it does have a SIM card but it uses different radios. Verizon uses CDMA/LTE and T-Mobile uses GSM so you can put whatever SIM card you want in there but since it uses different radios it won't physically be able to talk to T-Mobile (or any GSM carrier's towers)
btw, what happen if you travel away USA in a country without CDMA?.
At least, the CDMA iPhone have a simcard tray but it's locked until your operator wants.
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btw, what happen if you travel away USA in a country without CDMA?.
At least, the CDMA iPhone have a simcard tray but it's locked until your operator wants.
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Starting with Verizon's 4G LTE phones they all require SIM cards. They were also used in 3G global phones (my old blackberry and droid pro had them) but the CDMA Galaxy Nexus isn't global so you'd just SOL.
well.
nope. it won't work cause it's not CDMA...
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So I'm thinking of buying a Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
I know it has a sim tray so i'm wondering if it can be unlocked for T-Mobile.
Any help would be appreciated.
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@[email protected] can't believe people are asking this question. The phone has been out for over 3 months now.
Besides, the SIM card slot is specifically for LTE... as in, the SIM card is an LTE SIM card. LTE, not HSPA+.
I can only think, because the AT&T (HSPA+) model would be more prolific among sellers, that you'll have a better time finding a better price than a Verizon (LTE) one.
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btw, what happen if you travel away USA in a country without CDMA?.
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Then you have no service. Grab a cheap GSM phone and pre-paid SIM.
Try the yellow or the sky blue Galaxy Nexus. Those ones will work on both Verizon and T-Mobile.
Thats odd cause I have done it before
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Sim tray maybe but the vzw one is cdma and the GSM one is...well..GSM.
Different technologies! Not compatible.
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Back when verizon did both GSM and CDMA I had a verizon phone that I got to work on tmobile. I think it might have been a windows phone, honestly it was a while ago. I had to pay for a network unlock code and patch a radio or something....anyway, just wanted to say that it is in fact possible. My phone did brick in about two months, but that might have been from getting it wet...anyway...Good luck!
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Back when verizon did both GSM and CDMA I had a verizon phone that I got to work on tmobile. I think it might have been a windows phone, honestly it was a while ago. I had to pay for a network unlock code and patch a radio or something....anyway, just wanted to say that it is in fact possible. My phone did brick in about two months, but that might have been from getting it wet...anyway...Good luck!
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Total non sequitur. The phone in question must have been an old "world phone". The Verizon Galaxy Nexus never had any GSM radio whatsoever.
Also you bumped a 2 year old thread.
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Starting with Verizon's 4G LTE phones they all require SIM cards. They were also used in 3G global phones (my old blackberry and droid pro had them) but the CDMA Galaxy Nexus isn't global so you'd just SOL.
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For the CDMA GNex you would need either a CDMA or neutral carrier/MVNO (such as StraightTalk, Tracfone, etc.). I have a CDMA ex-VZW GNex (now running Unlegacy-Android 7.1) that I am taking to Tracfone (replacing a Tracfone feature phone) because Tracfone uses a mix of carrier towers (depending on location, either T-Mobile or VZW). My current feature phone uses T-Mobile towers - because I am bringing a CDMA phone under BYOP, I have to ask the carrier (Tracfone, in this case) to create a custom SIM Kit for the brought phone, and thus have to communicate the IMEI and MEID of the incoming phone (this information is in the phone under Settings). Yes - this also applies to lifeline feature phones supplied by Tracfone/Safelink (if Safelink supplied the phone, Tracfone is your MVNO). If you want a GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus, you would want the maguro (the Galaxy Nexus in AT&T Mobility or T-Mobile guise); because GSM is more popular overseas, they tend to get exported compared to CDMA or W-CDMA (Verizon or Sprint, respectively).
I'd like them not to be able to know that this is a Galaxy 3. Who else sells the I747 with ATT's LTE and 3G bands?
The att logo is on the battery cover you could easily buy an international back cover from ebay with no logo search the accessories forums there's a thread about it!
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Buy it from att. Then buy a different battery cover from eBay/amazon.
Do a search. They sell ones without gs3/att branding on it
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Or scratch off the att logo with a coin.
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I'd like them not to be able to know that this is a Galaxy 3. Who else sells the I747 with ATT's LTE and 3G bands?
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Maybe a rogers phone from Canada could work, but not sure if it is enough to stop them from detecting your phone.
And for the other two replies I believe he doesn't want att to detect the phone on the network not cosmetic changes.
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Just to clarify, he wants AT&T's database to not recognize the phone as an S3.
I don't believe buying a new battery cover would accomplish that...
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Just to clarify, he wants AT&T's database to not recognize the phone as an S3.
I don't believe buying a new battery cover would accomplish that...
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Probably not! I'm not even sure if that's possible - Unless the Korean or Japanese version had the AT&T LTE radio bands on-board already you'd have to do some serious hardware modifications to you phone.
I don't think anyone else uses AT&T LTE bands which are 700mhz and 2100mhz I believe.
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you won't be able to use lte without att's lte Sim, and they don't let you use the cheap non smartphone data plan on lte.
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you won't be able to use lte without att's lte Sim, and they don't let you use the cheap non smartphone data plan on lte.
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I have an ATT LTE microsim. I think. Or, yesterday, I got a microSIM from ATT. It should be 4G enabled... right?
Nonetheless, I am not getting LTE... which I guess is okay. I really fail to see the point of using LTE on a mobile phone when you burn through your total monthly allotment in under 8 hours.
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I have an ATT LTE microsim. I think. Or, yesterday, I got a microSIM from ATT. It should be 4G enabled... right?
Nonetheless, I am not getting LTE... which I guess is okay. I really fail to see the point of using LTE on a mobile phone when you burn through your total monthly allotment in under 8 hours.
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If you received an AT&T micro SIM with your SGS3 then it is a 4G LTE enabled one. And it is a matter of personal preference as to whether LTE is worth it or not to you. For some folks, HSPA+ is perfectly fine and you could put a 3G micro SIM into your phone and have it work without LTE.
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I have an ATT LTE microsim. I think. Or, yesterday, I got a microSIM from ATT. It should be 4G enabled... right?
Nonetheless, I am not getting LTE... which I guess is okay. I really fail to see the point of using LTE on a mobile phone when you burn through your total monthly allotment in under 8 hours.
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If you received an AT&T micro SIM with your SGS3 then it is a 4G LTE enabled one. And it is a matter of personal preference as to whether LTE is worth it or not to you. For some folks, HSPA+ is perfectly fine and you could put a 3G micro SIM into your phone and have it work without LTE.
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The sim card does not determine the service. ATT will not give you any HSPA+ or LTE if you don't have that plan added to your phone. They can differentiate between the plans and devices. If you pay for the non smartphone data they will stick you on 3g only.
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If you received an AT&T micro SIM with your SGS3 then it is a 4G LTE enabled one. And it is a matter of personal preference as to whether LTE is worth it or not to you. For some folks, HSPA+ is perfectly fine and you could put a 3G micro SIM into your phone and have it work without LTE.
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I got the microSIM in person, not with the phone. Do you think it's LTE capable?
If you call att and have lte data activated on your account, it will.
I'm looking at the Phone right now and it doen NOT have any slot to insert a SIM card..
I guess is not an International version.
You can call while international on GSM...I believe it is $0.02 a minute for UK to US
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You can call while international on GSM...I believe it is $0.02 a minute for UK to US
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I'm talking about to been able to use your phone overseas with a GSM carrier. Not only in UK ..
The GSM SIM is embedded and not user accessible. If you want to travel and use the phone you are stuck getting screwed by Sprints roaming rates. The iphone 5 and Photon Q are the same way. It's bullsh*t to call them world phones at this point. You could take the phone apart and access the SIM, but then you'd still have to get it unlocked.
I think part of the reason is so many were buying world phones on contract, billing it to the account and selling them overseas and not paying a dime on the account. With all the fraud, I think they took the most drastic route possible. Still BS to screw its traveling customers. People will still find a way if they want to commit fraud. They always do. And we pay for it one way or the other.
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Is this only missing in the Sprint Version? Verizon? I imagine the US GSM variants don't have this issue. Anyone know for sure?
It's purely a Sprint thing. Verizon, by law, can't lock their LTE phones, not even locally. Hence the iphone 5 on Verizon can be used on Tmo and AT&T as well as overseas with other SIMs.
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I got mine from Hong Kong which came with the SIM slot. can not image those locked to a carrier with an embedded SIM... Would those be much cheaper than the generic ones?
welcome to the world of CDMA carriers, ie. Verizon and Sprint. That was the general rule of thumb. You're locked into one or the other when in the US, but if you travel overseas, you were generally free to pop in a local SIM for cheap service. I think the Verizon version will allow it as well as being unlocked for local service due to the FCC. This is a first for international CDMA phones. Sprint, using different bandwidth for their LTE doesn't have that restriction so to speak. And embedding the GSM SIM is new for them. It hasn't been their MO up until the new LTE phones hit.
wow great stuff, thxxx
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welcome to the world of CDMA carriers, ie. Verizon and Sprint. That was the general rule of thumb. You're locked into one or the other when in the US, but if you travel overseas, you were generally free to pop in a local SIM for cheap service. I think the Verizon version will allow it as well as being unlocked for local service due to the FCC. This is a first for international CDMA phones. Sprint, using different bandwidth for their LTE doesn't have that restriction so to speak. And embedding the GSM SIM is new for them. It hasn't been their MO up until the new LTE phones hit.
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Yes unfortunately this seems to be a Sprint trend on all new international phones. A move which I am not pleased with. What I wasn't sure of is if Verizon was following suit. Can anyone confirm embedded Simms in any of Verizons new international phones? I'd like to see Sprint reverse this policy but it probably won't happen until a lawsuit our FCC ruling against them.
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I have Verizon, a Motorola Razr (Not MAXX) and it is crapping out on me, running slow, not sending picture messages etc.
My boyfriend has a trading post type store and he bought a brand new Galaxy S3 but it's through AT&T. When I put my SIM card in the S3 it asked for a SIM Pin for unlocking.
I have experience rooting a Nook Tablet so with some directions I'll probably be able to do it, I just don't know where to even start. Do I just unlock the phone or is there a way to switch it over?
Thanks!!
Ashley
It seems like you just need an unlock code to use it with your old SIM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962453
Try taking a look at this thread and see if you can get an unlock code from AT&T.
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It seems like you just need an unlock code to use it with your old SIM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962453
Try taking a look at this thread and see if you can get an unlock code from AT&T.
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So I called AT&T and they gave me the unlock code. I used it and it said unlocking the mobile network was successful. I tried to make a call and it said that only emergency calls were available. I restarted the phone and when making a call it said no mobile network can be found.
Ohhh you are putting a Verizon sim card in it? I don't think that will work since Verizon's network and lte use different technologies than at&t and the sim card is encoded to use the respective technology :X
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Yea I have a Verizon SIM card. On my verizon RAZR I have the option to switch betwee CDMA/LTE, Global, and GSM. I know AT&T run off GSM but if my Razr has the option to switch does the S3??
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Yea I have a Verizon SIM card. On my verizon RAZR I have the option to switch betwee CDMA/LTE, Global, and GSM. I know AT&T run off GSM but if my Razr has the option to switch does the S3??
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That would mean you can insert a gsm sim card into the RAZR maxx because it is a world phone. However, the at&t s3 does not support CDMA, which is the network technology that Verizon uses. That's probably why you are getting no mobile network when inserting your Verizon SIM card in the AT&T s3.
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The gsm sim that comes in Verizon global phones is there so when you travel out of the country you can use a cdma phone in countries that have a primary backbone that is gsm. In the us your phone uses Verizon's cdma network. If it does not see that network it will then look to the sim card to see if global gsm networks are detected.
To my knowledge this is going to be a no-go. If you have not done so, clean up your sd card, toss a factory data reset at your razor. These android phones are pretty tough.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Release Bringing One Last Surprise:
http://drippler.com/updates/share/samsung-galaxy-note-3-release-bringing-one-last-surprise Via j.mp/drippler_app
That's awesome. Would this phone work on Tmobile?
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To funny, wonder if it ships minus the Knox crap. One would think it must, thus in a roundabout kinda way, Samsung is/was aware of the issues Knox would create for developers, modders, rooters etc.. After popping the Knox flag..
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I'd grab that phone for sure if it works on Tmobile. You think it will?
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Warrior1975 said:
I'd grab that phone for sure if it works on Tmobile. You think it will?
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Verizon is CDMA. We are GSM. They don't have SIM cards. They use ESN #'s.
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Oh well
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Verizon is CDMA. We are GSM. They don't have SIM cards. They use ESN #'s.
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All LTE devices (even Sprint's and Verizon's) take SIM cards. Also, that same cellular radio that handles the LTE almost always does GSM/HSPA as well, all integrated on the same radio. Furthermore, Verizon is in the habit of leaving their LTE devices SIM-unlocked, so they can be used on GSM carriers. As long as the phone supports the appropriate bands, it will work on T-Mobile. However, I don't believe the VZW Note 3 supports the AWS bands that T-Mobile uses for most of their HSPA+ coverage. I doubt the developer edition would be any different.
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All LTE devices (even Sprint's and Verizon's) take SIM cards. Also, that same cellular radio that handles the LTE almost always does GSM/HSPA as well, all integrated on the same radio. Furthermore, Verizon is in the habit of leaving their LTE devices SIM-unlocked, so they can be used on GSM carriers. As long as the phone supports the appropriate bands, it will work on T-Mobile. However, I don't believe the VZW Note 3 supports the AWS bands that T-Mobile uses for most of their HSPA+ coverage. I doubt the developer edition would be any different.
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My note 2 didn't have a sim card from Sprint.
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My note 2 didn't have a sim card from Sprint.
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Sprint chose to have the SIM cards embedded into the device so that they couldn't be removed. They're not as open with the GSM part of their LTE phones as Verizon has been. If you read the label on the side of the box, it would have listed an ICCID number, which is the SIM card number for that device. The Sprint version of the Galaxy S4 had the SIM card tray accessible, unlike their previous LTE phones. Not sure if they continued that with the Note 3 or went back to embedding them.
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All LTE devices (even Sprint's and Verizon's) take SIM cards. Also, that same cellular radio that handles the LTE almost always does GSM/HSPA as well, all integrated on the same radio. Furthermore, Verizon is in the habit of leaving their LTE devices SIM-unlocked, so they can be used on GSM carriers. As long as the phone supports the appropriate bands, it will work on T-Mobile. However, I don't believe the VZW Note 3 supports the AWS bands that T-Mobile uses for most of their HSPA+ coverage. I doubt the developer edition would be any different.
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I was able to use my Verizon Note 2 on AT&T, but never got anything better than 3g speeds. Which is good enough for some, but I need my LTE.
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I was able to use my Verizon Note 2 on AT&T, but never got anything better than 3g speeds. Which is good enough for some, but I need my LTE.
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That's precisely why it's important to take note of the bands that the phone supports and the bands that the carrier requires for their various services (UMTS/HSPA, LTE, GSM/EDGE). I briefly popped my T-Mobile SIM into my VZW Note 2 and could only get Edge because the VZW Note 2 doesn't support the AWS frequencies that T-Mobile uses for HSPA in my area.