Why no Knox app? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

Anyone know why we ATT Note 4 users are apparently missing the Samsung Knox app that is supposed to be pre-installed on these devices? Even the "My Knox" app from the play store, which is only supposed to be compatible with S5 and Note4, says it is not compatible with this device.
Knox is listed in the application manager, but not the app drawer. I seemed to recall that ATT did the same thing on our Note 3. Why is ATT blocking us from this application?

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PathyTR said:
Anyone know why we ATT Note 4 users are apparently missing the Samsung Knox app that is supposed to be pre-installed on these devices? Even the "My Knox" app from the play store, which is only supposed to be compatible with S5 and Note4, says it is not compatible with this device.
Knox is listed in the application manager, but not the app drawer. I seemed to recall that ATT did the same thing on our Note 3. Why is ATT blocking us from this application?
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The question is why do you want this application? As far as I know which is not much as far as knox is concerned but I do know this is how they attempt to detect things like rooting and the sort... Is there things that will not run without knox because mine is disabled and its fine.
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PathyTR said:
Anyone know why we ATT Note 4 users are apparently missing the Samsung Knox app that is supposed to be pre-installed on these devices? Even the "My Knox" app from the play store, which is only supposed to be compatible with S5 and Note4, says it is not compatible with this device.
Knox is listed in the application manager, but not the app drawer. I seemed to recall that ATT did the same thing on our Note 3. Why is ATT blocking us from this application?
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Ok from doing minimal research it is for security (so they say) and from what I read this a paid service for some carriers have you called your carrier and asked them if your phone is stock and under warrranty and this is an app that should have been activated with the device then it would be a warranty issue I would imagine . So I would call them first and see what they say. If there no help come on back here. There is a few ways to install apps. (app store, apk file, side load) .

Knox is a application/service which enables users to run a containerized virtual environment with the purpose of maintaining data security for enterprises. It allows users to store data for both personal and business purposes on a single device by keeping the enterprise-side completely isolated. This allows employers to manage and maintain the security of their data.
The Knox counter is just a small piece of the system that is used to maintain the integrity of the service as a whole. The intent of the counter is to ensure that the device, and thus the Knox environment, has not been compromised. Samsung is more concerned about a multi-million dollar breach of their technology than they are about 16yo kids rooting their phones for the "cool factor". The fact that it happens to be a reliable way for them to tell when one of these kids bricked their phone and is trying to get a free replacement is just a side benefit.

Ok just an update I have not deleted any of the knox but only froze on application. Did you find a way to put it on your device...if not im sure it could be ported from a note 3 from another carrier..or simply download the apk.
Note 3 stock rom rooted.

It's been on there the entire time....
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It's on your device already check activities or even under settings all
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Latest update adds a new service that installs bloatware

A little bonus update For those Verizon Galaxy S7 users who are unaware http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/latest-verizon-update-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge/ not mentioned in the change log.
please share your thoughts about this service.
Ah, so that's what that is. DISABLED
Thanks for letting us know, I just checked and disabled it.
Something like this should be illegal. Disabled.
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Thanks for this! I disabled it. I want my phone running as lean and mean as possible.
If you own the phone outright, paid in full, they should disclose what they are doing to it. I cleared and froze right after upgrading.
You all are welcome, i always try to share helpful info for my friends.
Thanks !
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This was also present on S6 and forward. Not new, but this should never have been added in the first place. I don't want random games on my phone.
I tried to disable but asked "Would you like to replace app with factory version?" Is another app that does the same thing going to replace it? I can't disable DT ignite if I don't click yes
Woodruffsung said:
I tried to disable but asked "Would you like to replace app with factory version?" Is another app that does the same thing going to replace it? I can't disable DT ignite if I don't click yes
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Its because DT ignite has updates installed. Click yes and it will put the "factory" non-updated version back on the phone. Then it will allow u to disable as normal.
Thanks so much for the find.
For those that may not have found it yet I have just started using Package Disabler Pro which let's you disable all of the verison and other bloatware without root...
zach.xtr said:
Thanks so much for the find.
For those that may not have found it yet I have just started using Package Disabler Pro which let's you disable all of the verison and other bloatware without root...
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Great app.
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emmawilliam834 said:
A little bonus update For those Verizon Galaxy S7 users who are unaware http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/latest-verizon-update-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge/ not mentioned in the change log.
please share your thoughts about this service.
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DT ignite is a cancer waiting to spread. Forcing apps to install onto the device that has almost half its storage already taken by bloat. Haven't seen any apps besides the beam software install without my permission, had to install Nextradio manually ( which has annoying ads ). DT Ignite could one day install an app that can compromise your phones security due to programming flaws. All quickrooter exploits have been patched, however if it feels like a Trojan it is a Trojan
Just updated my VZ Galaxy S6 edge plus 64gb and this Cancerous AIDS is in that update as well. Before my eyes I had apps appearing like magic installing themselves one by one.
This is worse than most phones that have crap in their root preinstall folder that show up after every restart
Haven't had anything wacky installed, it's even installing an updated Instagram not from the Google play store

Moving from rooted phone to Note 7, best workarounds?

Greetings everyone, I'm looking for some advice. For the past 6 years I've had only daily driver phones that were rooted and boot unlocked. On Friday that'll change when my Note 7 arrives, it was simply too compelling a phone to pass up. BUT, the two things I'm sure I'll miss are 1) full device (and individual app) backup using TWRP + Titanium Backup, and, 2) whole device ad blocking using AdAway. Are there any truly useful apps/solutions/workarounds to accomplish those things on a stock Samsung phone?
Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
Samsung browser supports adblocking https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.crystalapp.crystal maybe there is some other apps to for just browser? If u want apps to block ads you will need a better app like AdClear that is free or even get the AdGuard pay for cheap:
AdGuard works without root on both WiFi and mobile data. It's not free but if you choose to pay in Russian rubles a lifetime license costs around 4$. Works like a charm and gets regularly updates. It blocks ad's everywhere and not just in the browser. Only ad's in the YouTube app are currently not blocked but they are working on a workaround. https://m.adguard.com/en/purchase.html?currencyId=1#1/36500/MOBILE
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Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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I was about to recommend adguard but I've never heard of adClear. It's actually much better. As for helium, I think it's pretty neat except it doesn't backup system app info.
best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.
Samzebian said:
best advice for really disabling apps (better than the disable option in settings) is package disabler pro.
Works only on samsung phones but works wonders.
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Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.
I bought the Note Edge a couple years back when the Note 4 came out.. coming from a T-Mobile rooted Note 3 it was rough because I bought a T-Mobile version and the guy sent me an AT&T unlocked off Ebay... so though it was on lock the TMobile the bootloader was locked and I could not root. I hated every minute with that phone so I only had it for 3 weeks. I ended up selling it taking $100 loss to read by an authentic T-Mobile version. Not until then was I happy. I just read that the LG G5 at T-Mobile is now locking their bootloaders! I wish Samsung would put some development time in and make an unlocker for those of us that want it if not I'm just going to return my phone take the $50 loss that comes with it for the restocking fee. Then by an international version which I've already seen can obtain root.
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This is really breaking my heart due to the fact that I was in an accident a few years back that left me almost paralyzed though I walk now I can barely walk no I work I can barely work I'm on full disability so to take away my one hop which is routing and playing with custom roms really really bums me out... especially since I've had every Samsung Galaxy Note ever made...plus the Tab S and Tab S2...
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We should ALL keep petitioning for TMOBILE to continue to help with an unlocking tool!
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Yeah I need an alternative to viper4android. I don't think I can go without root and will be getting the international version.
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Corbitt74 said:
Cool, I'll try it. I was gonna ask about package disabler.
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I'll try it too, thanks!
Zolares said:
I've already stopped rooting my phone for over 5 years already
I, for one, have not missed root much primarily since I've seen a friend fall victim to a malicious app that was granted root access. Truthfully, its quite terrifying about all the things a root app has access to.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. This one, try Helium by ClockworkMod. I trust you've recognized the Developer name
Helium is touted as a non-root app that will backup apps along with their app data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
2. For non-root system-wide ad blocking, I believe the only method right now is to use an app like AdClear or AdGuard.
Both of these services creates a local VPN on your device to detect and filter any ad traffic.
I have yet to try AdGuard because I've had very good results with AdClear.
Both of these can be found on XDA.
Both of these aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but then again, you wanted workarounds.
I've made a quick search and Helium appears to work great with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which should mean the probability of it working well for Note7 is also high.
If you have a spare non-root phone, feel free to give these both a try and see if they're satisfactory alternatives for your needs.
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Great recommendations, thank you! I recall having tried Helium on my HTC One M8 a couple of years ago before I'd rooted it. It didn't work too well for me back then, but perhaps It's gotten better, so I'll give it another look.
ARNOB said:
Same here, coming from sony(2011), nexus and htc, rooting and bl unlocking has been my first interactions with my phone. But like you I won't be doing that for samsung pay.
1. Titanium backup (or similar) might have some limited functionality. I'm yet to see if I'd have any luck with adb and a computer backup.
2. So far I found Adguard to provide the closest service. But then again, it wont be the same as adaway.
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Hmm, I hadn't considered ADB to computer backup. Wonder if that'll actually work.
I was in another room about locked Bootloaders on this phone... technically no it has a real answer but there's a bunch of little babies and their whining about how it's like get over it move on get over it blah blah blah. But the real fact is they don't have the phone they don't have the money for the phone they don't have the intelligence to root the phone
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I'm just going to wait for ups and move on get to work ...Xda is turning into YouTube with trollers
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My main apps without root.
1. Adguard (I've found it to be the best over the other VPN Ad Blockers) Block's everything.
2. Package Disabler Pro (blocks all bloatware apps from running)
3 For backups there are few that all do the same thing like many poster have said.
sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.
probablecauzdnb said:
sorry if i am already a little late to the party but what can't you/shouldn't you root a note 7?? i wasn't aware of that. what does it do to the phone if you do root it. i have seen a few posts of people rooting them. sorry if this has been discussed before.
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For me the reason is it trips knox for which you will lose samsung pay forever.
I have to admit, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think Samsung Pay is a killer feature. If you don't mind my asking, what country are you in, and why don't cards work for you?
It would also get rid of the Secure Folder feature since that is Knox dependent too.
Although I've only gotten the Note7 for a day, that Secure Folder has already become indispensable.
Even if I haven't stopped rooting for years, I believe I would still sacrifice root any day to keep that Secure Folder feature.
Not sure if there's a root alternative to the Secure Folder's features or if it'll one day be possible, but rooting exposes too much security risks anyway. If I was rooted, I wouldn't trust the Secure Folder as much as I would have while unrooted.
Secure Folder is a bit more understandable, though I have exactly the opposite reaction to you -- I consider an unrooted phone an incredible security risk, as I have absolutely no control over its internals, and I don't trust the Secure Folder because it appears to be insecure by design (allows biometric unlock). Losing the ability to restore older versions of apps, freeze preinstalled apps, modify the hosts file (for domain blocking), or run a firewall that can't be bypassed is kind of a dealbreaker to me.
I can at least understand people who feel otherwise, though. The Samsung Pay bit was what made me stop and ask, because it's the first time I've ever seen someone who actually thought it was valuable, and I was really curious about why.
Hey!
I've been using my note 3 since it's official release and i'm wondering if you guys have a workaround of Youtube Adaway for non rooted devices !

Bloatware

Hello
I recently received my note 7, which I purchased directly from Samsung which means it should not come with any carrier bloatware. I inserted my Canadian Rogers SIM card before turning on my phone and going though the initial set up only to finish and find a bunch of Rogers bloatware like 'MyRogers' and 'AppZone'. I have tried to uninstall these apps but I am only given the option to disable them. I even did a factory reset and made sure there was no SIM card during the whole process, but after completing it, those same bloatware apps were there. Is this normal? Is there a way I can uninstall these apps? One of the reasons I purchased directly from Samsung is so I wouldn't get all those carrier bloatware apps, but for some reason they are in my phone. Any comments and/or help is appreciated.
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TheAtomicBuddha said:
Hello
I recently received my note 7, which I purchased directly from Samsung which means it should not come with any carrier bloatware. I inserted my Canadian Rogers SIM card before turning on my phone and going though the initial set up only to finish and find a bunch of Rogers bloatware like 'MyRogers' and 'AppZone'. I have tried to uninstall these apps but I am only given the option to disable them. I even did a factory reset and made sure there was no SIM card during the whole process, but after completing it, those same bloatware apps were there. Is this normal? Is there a way I can uninstall these apps? One of the reasons I purchased directly from Samsung is so I wouldn't get all those carrier bloatware apps, but for some reason they are in my phone. Any comments and/or help is appreciated.
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Just disable them and move on. If Disable is greyed out, use Package Disabler Pro. Also, apps are pre built into the system as system apps, so unless you find an untouched original firmware and flash it through odin, it will always have bloatware. I've disabled 137 samsung apps/services and my phones running like a beaut lol.
imatts said:
Just disable them and move on. If Disable is greyed out, use Package Disabler Pro. Also, apps are pre built into the system as system apps, so unless you find an untouched original firmware and flash it through odin, it will always have bloatware. I've disabled 137 samsung apps/services and my phones running like a beaut lol.
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So all those websites saying that buying from the manufacturer is better because you won't have all that carrier bloatware are wrong? I read somewhere that they say that when you put a sim card in, it will automatically download all that bloatware, but I just realised my old Nexus did not have this problem which makes things even more confusing.
imatts said:
Just disable them and move on. If Disable is greyed out, use Package Disabler Pro. Also, apps are pre built into the system as system apps, so unless you find an untouched original firmware and flash it through odin, it will always have bloatware. I've disabled 137 samsung apps/services and my phones running like a beaut lol.
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Could you please export the list of the disabled apps and post it here, thanks.
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millicent said:
Could you please export the list of the disabled apps and post it here, thanks.
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Although I did disable a few regular samsung apps like internet, calculator, clock, my files, and i think a few others. Just scroll through the list anf checkmark what you want disabled, and leave the things you want enabled unchecked.
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TheAtomicBuddha said:
So all those websites saying that buying from the manufacturer is better because you won't have all that carrier bloatware are wrong? I read somewhere that they say that when you put a sim card in, it will automatically download all that bloatware, but I just realised my old Nexus did not have this problem which makes things even more confusing.
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Honestly I dont know, I havent bought a phone from a carrier in 5 years. I just go straight to the source. Just use PDP
Once you activate it with a carrier they load their programs onto the phone during activation. Sprint does the same and you can uninstall most of it except for a few.
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Itchiee said:
Once you activate it with a carrier they load their programs onto the phone during activation. Sprint does the same and you can uninstall most of it except for a few.
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This is the correct answer, in order to prevent this from happening - go through the activation process without a SIM inserted.
TheAtomicBuddha said:
Hello
I recently received my note 7, which I purchased directly from Samsung which means it should not come with any carrier bloatware. I inserted my Canadian Rogers SIM card before turning on my phone and going though the initial set up only to finish and find a bunch of Rogers bloatware like 'MyRogers' and 'AppZone'. I have tried to uninstall these apps but I am only given the option to disable them. I even did a factory reset and made sure there was no SIM card during the whole process, but after completing it, those same bloatware apps were there. Is this normal? Is there a way I can uninstall these apps? One of the reasons I purchased directly from Samsung is so I wouldn't get all those carrier bloatware apps, but for some reason they are in my phone. Any comments and/or help is appreciated.
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My understanding is that all of the Note 7 versions shipped to carriers install the boatware automatically in the initial setup based upon the first sim that is installed.
So if you took a clean Verizon Note 7 to tmobile it would setup tmobile bloatware instead.
I haven't been able to find out if it is cleared upon reset. I don't know if/when it will be possible to have a bloatware free version here without going with a carrier that just doesn't offer a full version Note 7. It is an awesome phone one way or another!
TheAtomicBuddha said:
So all those websites saying that buying from the manufacturer is better because you won't have all that carrier bloatware are wrong? I read somewhere that they say that when you put a sim card in, it will automatically download all that bloatware, but I just realised my old Nexus did not have this problem which makes things even more confusing.
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Unless you found the unlocked, non-carrier branded Note 7 on Samsung's site that they have yet to release then you got carrier bloat. It's not enough to order FROM the manufacturer but it has to say unlocked as the S7 they released is .. there are S7's marked for carriers which will have Samsung bloat and carrier bloat whether it ships on the phone or is downloaded during setup.
Again, you have to have purchased the unlocked, non-carrier branded version. This has not been released yet. Now .. once it has the ROM from that version will make it's way out and you can flash it. Then you'll have what you thought you purchased. :good:
SolarTico said:
My understanding is that all of the Note 7 versions shipped to carriers install the boatware automatically in the initial setup based upon the first sim that is installed.
So if you took a clean Verizon Note 7 to tmobile it would setup tmobile bloatware instead.
I haven't been able to find out if it is cleared upon reset. I don't know if/when it will be possible to have a bloatware free version here without going with a carrier that just doesn't offer a full version Note 7. It is an awesome phone one way or another!
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Sorry, that's incorrect. The carrier branded devices have the carrier specific 'bloatware' baked into the signed firmware package. For example, I set up my T-Mobile branded note 7 before I put my SIM in. The tmo bloat was already there.
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Someone please list a complete list of Bloatware that is safe to remove from carriers thanks
Here is the list of apps I have disabled with Package Disabler Pro on my Verizon Note 7. I am sure there are other apps that could be disabled if one wanted, but these are the ones that I felt I didn't need/want and have had zero issues since disabling. This has seemed to free up more RAM, and I also think is helping with battery life a bit. Here is the list:
ANT + DUT
ANT radio service
ANT + HAL service
ANT Plugins service
Apps edge
Briefing - flipboard
Briefing feed
Calendar
Caller name ID
CNN for edge panel
DT Ignite
Edge screen
Email com.samsung.android
Facebook app manager
Gmail - google
Google play movies & TV
Google play music
Hangouts
Message +
Messages
NFL Mobile
People edge
Setup wizard - google
Setup wizard - android
System updates 1
System updates 2
Verizon location agent
Verizon store demo mode
VZ Navigator
Weather 1
Weather 2
Yahoo Edge

knox counter triggered! is there a way to reset it?

After rooting my Note 7, I've noticed that my Knox counter has been triggered, normally I would mind but several apps seem to depend on it to work properly(I can't even open S Health!). Is there away to reset it yet? thanks
Nope. When you root, a physical fuse in the phone is blown, so unless you have epic soldering and mad haxorz skills then you're pretty much screwed
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
I am rooted and my S Health works. I believe the only thing that would be permanently disabled is Samsung Pay. Some banking apps will not run if you have root but you can always install an Xposed module called root cloak to circumvent that issue.
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S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
thedicemaster said:
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
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Sadly depending on what you want not everything is available without rooting.
Unless you can tell me how to change all app dpi individually.
YouTube adblocker
Synapse
Adaway
Greenify... not as as good un rooted mode
Amplify
Smart network
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you're mentioning specific root-only apps.
obviously those won't work, but there are alternative methods with (close to) the same results.
adaway: adguard, it's better anyway(doesn't rely on a system designed for no more than 100 rules, easy to toggle on/off, supports whitelisting of apps, supports firewall functionality, and can target not just entire domains but also single lines of code)
adfree YouTube: yes this one is trickier, you'd need a 3rd party YouTube app or the website+adguard to avoid ads.
alternatively you can use "Cygery AdSkip for YouTube" to automatically skip ads after 5 seconds.
as you said, greenify works just not as effective.
similar "power saving" functions however are built in on recent android devices.
and from what I can tell every function in "smart network" except switching to 2G can be achieved without root using tasker.
synapse and per app DPI are the only things on your list that are completely impossible without root(although using game tuner's resolution settings you should be able to influence scaling in some apps)
Also if you use YouTube backgrounder, OGyoutube works great and allows background / downloading of content. I'm still looking for an ad free YouTube but this suffices in the meantime.
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krabman said:
S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
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do you have the link for it? when I try to open it, it says the following:
"Unable to open app
Because of a new security policy introduced in version 5.0, Knox is not available on compromised devices"
I've already frozen all the knox apps I could find in TB.
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
shinew said:
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
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S Health may use Knox to protect your health data (HIPAA in the USA).
The S-health thing is new, people are circumventing it by an app that lets you access the widget and from it you can open it up or some such, don't use it so I paid little attention to the fix. Don't remember where I saw that but it's here somewhere shine, I would peruse the development threads, I'm thinking I saw it in one of them.

Ccswe not working, again

Today, I found that ccswe is again not working due to knox license issues, I emailed the dev, and told me that, for whatever reason, samsung revoked his license, again… what a pity this thing is… I am confident about the dev solving this issue, meanwhile.. Samsung: ?
Yeah it's been like that for months. Very disappointing. I find that I'm forced to pay for an appblocker onna yearly basis that has no managed to be viable longer than a year. I miss the GatesJunior rooting years. His apk manager was the best.
Hopefully he's able to get his license back and get the app working. Best part about this guy is I don't have to re buy the app when it starts working again. And he does communicate. I also hope his health is good, last time he was in the hospital for a while.
Yes, the dev is really a honest guy, no need to re-buy or anything of the sort, I think he has troubles derived of how powerful his app is, hopefully he will fix this issue shortly
i also hope he manages to resolve this unfortunate issue with Samsung
Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.
JoshReuben said:
Can anyone share the apk? It's been removed from the play store.
I'm so sick of Samsung's bull**** bloatware.
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Even if you had the apk it wouldn't work. Still has to verify the key and dial into Samsung. It's a lost cause for now.
as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?
I've never rooted this phone and it worked like a charm. Don't think root was ever achieved for the VZW N10+
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as i understand that this app needs root to work - wouldn't f.e. Titanium Backup pro be an alternative ? or even remove apps via ADB ?
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There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox
winol said:
There are two versions, the one for rooted devices does not need knox licensing, and it is free I think, the other one, which is a pay app works on non rooted devices, that is precisely why it relies on knox
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oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.
blackspy_ said:
oh - i never read about the possibility to really remove apps, without root. interesting. i wouldn't mind paying for this.
for me the two missing things on Samsung stock: proper backups like in titanium, including log-ins, or diskimages, as in TWRP-recovery and completely removing useless apps like FaceBook. deactivating them in Appmanager seems to be no proper solution, especially as as many of them can't be deactivated.
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Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself
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Well ccswe, and for that matter, package disabler pro, do not have the ability to unistall certain system apps, they can just totally disable them, ccswe is more powerful than package disabler pro, as it is able to block things inside an app without disabling completely the app itself
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Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.
The fine granularity on the app is great. We can see all the servi, activities and other interesting elements of each app. I've seen something like that only with apps that have root access, like MyAndroidTools for example.
I was testing the free ccswe app when it stopped working. I'm gonna buy the paid version, the only draw back was that I saw just 10+ downloads on the store. Was wondering why ppl don't buy it. Reading here your opinions gives me more reasons to get it.
blackhawk said:
Lots of pesky things.
PD MDM is the only reason this 10+ is usable without root.
Lol, AT&T updates/apps and bixby* get blocked first...
*Bixby Vision and Vision Framework are needed by the cam.
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I've blocked them and camera works fine.
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I've blocked them and camera works fine.
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No, no it doesn't. Target tracking (yellow square) needs it, possible advanced metering functions and probably more.
Those two Bixby apps only run when the cam needs them.
It does not appear to me that he lost his Knox license, I read sonewhere that he said the "free" model no longer works and he has a paid version up now, so he must have just disabled the license for the free version. The paid version is showing 100+ downloads now.
Stupid question, but I mainly used CCSWE to disable apps starting at boot. However, I never really confirmed if it was working and I've see other apps claim to do that (non-root) such as All-In-One Toolbox I believe. Has anyone confirmed thay CCSWE actually prevented selected apps from starting at boot?
He has posted a notice via ccswe update that Samsung has revoked his partner licence and without it and the keys that license grants the app can not function. both free and paid app are rendered inactive
The developer seems a decent chap and has told me that if I buy the paid version again and email him the details he will refund the original licence. Thing is I'm reluctant to pay for something that depends on a licence I don't own. If I'd realized that it only works seemingly at the whim of Samsung, I probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place!
If Samsung has revoked his partner license, how is he selling a paid version of the app? Is that why it is a beta, so all the reviews from people saying they just purchased it and it doesn't work don't show? Even if he gets it working again, it seems like an extreme gamble to purchase an app that keeps loosing its licensing.
Is there any other non-root method of disabling startups on a Samsung phone?

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