I posted this question a while back and many views but no response. So I'm posting it here hoping to get a response. I was wondering if MIUI will be ported on this phone. I would love to see it on this phone. Any news?
Wrong section. Goes in the Q&A.
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Before any ports we need a full fledged functioning aosp build, once we have that I don't see why a port wouldn't be out of the question. This is just MHO but we don't really need new builds of different versions based off the same broken source. $droyd$ did great ground work on his slim version but till he or others can fix what's broken it seems any new variants have the same issues.
There is already a build out there but its DATA is not working, it is however built for the F400K model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/rom-miuiv5-helpcan-help-t2902873
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzk5ODAxNzY0.html
What @Ducter said. we need a fully working AOSP build for MIUI, because its AOSP based.
emezrahi said:
What @Ducter said. we need a fully working AOSP build for MIUI, because its AOSP based.
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That would depend if its a private port or if it is a "offical" miui by xaiomi.
as they tend to do "patchrom" builds, to have the benefit of LG drivers and of the camera etc...
there is no disputing the fact that original manufacturers drivers and firmware for camera and sound etc.. is better on offical roms than CM ports.
emezrahi said:
What @Ducter said. we need a fully working AOSP build for MIUI, because its AOSP based.
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MIUI is not always AOSP based. I've used MIUI builds on my HTC OneXL that were Sense based and I've seen them like that on other HTC devices as well. Looks and feels just like AOSP MIUI. Not sure if something like that is possible for other manufacturers though.
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MIUI is not always AOSP based. I've used MIUI builds on my HTC OneXL that were Sense based and I've seen them like that on other HTC devices as well. Looks and feels just like AOSP MIUI. Not sure if something like that is possible for other manufacturers though.
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Really?? Was it an official MIUI build, or maybe a skin, by someone else?
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Really?? Was it an official MIUI build, or maybe a skin, by someone else?
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Don't remember if it was official but I know it's not a skin or anything. It's full fledged MIUI just using a Sense base. One sec and I'll find the link for the thread.
Here's the link to one of the ones I used on my One XL. I think there was at least one other and I know I've seen it on other HTC devices as well. It would be awesome if something like this could work with the LG firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390347
Here was another one, even though I think it might be an update for the previous one posted by a different user.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599680
pside15 said:
Don't remember if it was official but I know it's not a skin or anything. It's full fledged MIUI just using a Sense base. One sec and I'll find the link for the thread.
Here's the link to one of the ones I used on my One XL. I think there was at least one other and I know I've seen it on other HTC devices as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390347
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Yeah, i dont think this is an official build. It looks like OP got MIUI to work with sense & built a rom. Anyways, although MIUI is not my cup of tea (AOKP man myself) it looks pretty awesome. :good:
Hopefully we'll see some other builds in the near future. Im sick of LGs UI & im willing to try anything else.
EDIT: Moderator, please move this to the Q&A subcategory.
Do not post anything other than development threads in the development section
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Im not a developer but, isnt all thats needed to make an aosp rom was the kernal source which we now have. yea i know there are some roms on the horizon but im just surprised we havnt seen a true aosp yet.
Or am i missing a peice of the bigger picture.
zikronix said:
Im not a developer but, isnt all thats needed to make an aosp rom was the kernal source which we now have. yea i know there are some roms on the horizon but im just surprised we havnt seen a true aosp yet.
Or am i missing a peice of the bigger picture.
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youre missing a piece of the bigger picture. roms have to be developed and tested. source doesn't mean the rom is already ready to go for every single phone. you have to build the rom from source, this is not something that is done instantly, the same reason you have to wait for htc and sprint to release roms.
Wrong forum.
I dont understand how this is in the wrong forum...its a developement question. Why dont you contribute something helpful instead of trying to be a moderator by proxy. You know like directing me to the proper forum?
anyway
no i understand that portion of that. but I thought that it was easier to build the aosp roms then those with sense crap...when we got hero source there were aosp roms the next day.
Reason why I ask is because I am looking into cooking my own rom...and was basically wondering. as it sits now.is everything availaible to us to make a true aosp rom.
or are we still waiting on some htc bs.
surprisingly, i haven't been too impatient for an AOSP rom. The only reason i want one is for minimum bloatware and Wiimote gaming. And ofcourse, overall performance.
The ROMs that are out right now aren't too shabby, helping me cope with the delays for AOSP
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how so? This is an android development question.
it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
Cyanogen's rom will be a true AOSP rom. It should (hopefully) be coming out soon.
i'm also looking forward to the aosp rom. i'm willing to sacrifice some of the htc specific stuff like hdmi out.
wasn't darchstar donated an evo so he could get this working?
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it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
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I guess im not the only user that thinks this is in correct because in the first page there is at least 2 posts that are in par with my type of "question" posts as you put it
and ive counted at least seven more.
So im pretty sure this actually is the "right" forum and if its not im sure a mod will move it.
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it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
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This is correct +1 and as far the OP question goes, it looks like Cyanogen Mod 6 will be the first true AOSP.
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it's the wrong forum BECAUSE it's a question. development forum is for posting up radios, ROMs, kernels, and dinking around solutions. it is not for question threads
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I think you need to rephrase your words and not say "wrong forum", certainly it is not the wrong forum, but the wrong section. I believe this question belongs to the General section.
Here is a link of an AOSP ROM everyone here is expecting soon.
Nexus One Cyanogen Mod ROM Overview!
i know his rom is comming out. I was more inclined of asking why there hasnt been one yet. i got that question answered
but my second question (which wasnt answered) was
do we have everything we need or are we waiting on some htc nonsense because im looking at cookin my own rom
Thread moved to Q&A.
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i know his rom is comming out. I was more inclined of asking why there hasnt been one yet. i got that question answered
but my second question (which wasnt answered) was
do we have everything we need or are we waiting on some htc nonsense because im looking at cookin my own rom
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We have everything we need. However it takes some pretty impressive coding to make everything work. Dual cameras and WiMax are new to everyone. This is the only Android phone that has them, especially WiMax. The fact that Cyan got the cams working just proves his coding prowess.
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Sweet, my guess was that this belonged here, I reserved comments because I don't want to pretend like I'd be a good mod
Anywho, I am people other that myself are asking this question, I guess there are a ton of us eagerly awaiting an AOSP rom.
Here is my take on this:
The stock Android Source code does not have access to some of the hardware on the phone. Yes we haver kernel source, however, the stock Android software for 2.1 doesnt have:
1. Two Cameras
2. Wimax
3. HDMI
4. Kickstand notification?
You either have to run HTC's Sense or use a Froyo with some custom Android Apps (What Cyanogen is writing)
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We have everything we need. However it takes some pretty impressive coding to make everything work. Dual cameras and WiMax are new to everyone. This is the only Android phone that has them, especially WiMax. The fact that Cyan got the cams working just proves his coding prowess.
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I tested your rom for a short time...a good place for anyone interested in messing around with a basic AOSP rom.
zonyl said:
Here is my take on this:
The stock Android Source code does not have access to some of the hardware on the phone. Yes we haver kernel source, however, the stock Android software for 2.1 doesnt have:
1. Two Cameras
2. Wimax
3. HDMI
4. Kickstand notification?
You either have to run HTC's Sense or use a Froyo with some custom Android Apps (What Cyanogen is writing)
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Answers my question perfectly
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Hi with so many cyanogenMod 9 roms out there now and to help new comers choose between roms I thought I would start a poll to help decide which is better as the roms progress with newer builds.I will add new roms as they come hope this helps people to choose thanks.
why is this a checkbox poll? it should be radio buttons, since there can only be 1 "best"
I voted for Domination.. :good::good::good:
TeamNDVRu. The only build without any camera issues (not focusing on faces).
Shu. said:
TeamNDVRu. The only build without any camera issues (not focusing on faces).
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Even paranoid android doesnt have camera problems
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Voted for TeamNDVRu. A2DP works only in this rom.
TeamNDVRu gets my vote mainly for having updates nearly on a daily basis, and feels pretty close to being an official nightly.
I also love team ndvru release it feels clean fash stable and most important it works.
What, TeamNDVRu? Which one is that?
Edit: nwm found it
instead of 5 versions of Cyangen, fixing the same problems over and over, they should be working together to make ONE Cyangen that actually works......
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instead of 5 versions of Cyangen, fixing the same problems over and over, they should be working together to make ONE Cyangen that actually works......
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Open source dude... actually the competition will make them work harder and eventually the end users will be benefited
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instead of 5 versions of Cyangen, fixing the same problems over and over, they should be working together to make ONE Cyangen that actually works......
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They are working togather ... A bug once fixed in a ROM is pulled to other versions. There maybe some who don't :silly:
Hello Voted for CyanogenMod9 alpha 7 - TeamNDVRu:good:
jutley said:
Hi with so many cyanogenMod 9 roms out there now and to help new comers choose between roms I thought I would start a poll to help decide which is better as the roms progress with newer builds.I will add new roms as they come hope this helps people to choose thanks.
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Why didn't you include the first CM9 that was available on xda, and the only one that has nightly builds? (Intrepresentation's originally and then picked up by tgascoigne)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661629
And I don't think Domination is really a "CM9" build, rather a Based-on-CM9 since it has many extra features and has differed significantly from a stock CM9 install (not that there is anything wrong with that).
The TeamNDVRu is the best, but the Endeavor Unleashed isn't bad
You got that spot on
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instead of 5 versions of Cyangen, fixing the same problems over and over, they should be working together to make ONE Cyangen that actually works......
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THIS.
Choice is good, naturally but too many of the same thing and it doesn't benefit anyone in the end. In principle, competition may be good but it's almost like two stores under selling each other to get the customers or the glory or what have you.
If one team comes up with a solution, and the others copy it? then who is really benefiting here? where's the innovation in other releases?
These teams should really work together and find a FINAL CM9 build and THEN based their future ROMs on this official unofficial CM9 ROM.
im a new owner of this awesome devices was previously an htc evo user then went to the evil world of iphones then got out for the galaxy s3 the evo had so much more development and porting but i miss the htc sense would any dev please attempt a sense 3.5 or 4 or even 2,0 to our devices
That's borderline impossible. Completely different framework and kernels. There is a team working on bringing sense to Samsung, sense4all,I believe. Its not something the average person can manage to do.
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That's borderline impossible. Completely different framework and kernels. There is a team working on bringing sense to Samsung, sense4all,I believe. Its not something the average person can manage to do.
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not necessarly true a new kernel would have to be created but not impossible if htc devices can get touchwiz booting the s3 def can have sense booting 2 sense4all was successfully created for the galaxy s3 international problem is thats a completly diffrent hardware then the sgh i747 im really looking forward to the deving on this device its nice and powerfull and i hope that more people get on the dev scene on this
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not necessarly true a new kernel would have to be created but not impossible if htc devices can get touchwiz booting the s3 def can have sense booting 2 sense4all was successfully created for the galaxy s3 international problem is thats a completly diffrent hardware then the sgh i747 im really looking forward to the deving on this device its nice and powerfull and i hope that more people get on the dev scene on this
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Yes a new kernel would be needed. The difference in the sense based stuff in an htc kernel does not directly work with a Samsung device of the same processors. The ram disk needs to be modified, correct drivers would either need to be made or modded, that's just for the basics. I'm not including adding in the camera, sound, radio, touchscreen etc stuff. Those a specific to each different device with the newer versions of android now of days.
I can't just directly port over a touchwiz ROM an drop it on my phone, so much work goes into it. If you do get the kernel built correctly, more problems arise. Gotta rework the framework to match the Samsung phone, including HTC's framework among other HTC specific files.
What HTC phone has a full booting touchwiz rom?
Not to mention a lot of Sense drivers are closed source and proprietary.
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Not to mention a lot of Sense drivers are closed source and proprietary.
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Htc desire has a working touchwiz rom and isnt touchwiz closed source as well i dont doubt it woukd take allot of work but this is what xda devs do most roms ivr seen out in this forum are stripped stock or asop or kangs of cm and 1 miui rom or a themed touchwiz or jb the jb is probsbly the nicest
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Htc desire has a working touchwiz rom and isnt touchwiz closed source as well i dont doubt it woukd take allot of work but this is what xda devs do most roms ivr seen out in this forum are stripped stock or asop or kangs of cm and 1 miui rom or a themed touchwiz or jb the jb is probsbly the nicest
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Please link me to that Rom
im sorry i mean the htc evo
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i meant the htc evo not desire sorry i have way too many phones anyways i believe the link for evo has been taken down heres a youtube
video of it also doing a little more research i discovered that those over at the htc one x devs on xda have managed to port the entire UI over to their devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821047
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2O64tCB60&feature=player_embedded here is the youtube video for touchwiz on the htc evo
i also have the actual rom file since the actual forum was taken down about a year ago i can provide the rom file on request as its stored on my 4shared mirror
atadres said:
i meant the htc evo not desire sorry i have way too many phones anyways i believe the link for evo has been taken down heres a youtube
video of it also doing a little more research i discovered that those over at the htc one x devs on xda have managed to port the entire UI over to their devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821047
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2O64tCB60&feature=player_embedded here is the youtube video for touchwiz on the htc evo
i also have the actual rom file since the actual forum was taken down about a year ago i can provide the rom file on request as its stored on my 4shared mirror
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That video doesn't prove that is a full touchwiz Rom. Then your link is only for the launcher,yet again that doesn't prove anything at all. The Rom is just a stripped out sense Rom(ie senseless)with touchwiz launcher an possibly ui. It's not a full touchwiz rom.
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That video doesn't prove that is a full touchwiz Rom. Then your link is only for the launcher,yet again that doesn't prove anything at all. The Rom is just a stripped out sense Rom(ie senseless)with touchwiz launcher an possibly ui. It's not a full touchwiz rom.
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hmmm interesting would that be a possibility for us i747 users?
sir my question was simply why can they bring our UI to them and we cannot port anything to our devices besides Aosp and Aokp and miui they have ports of our UI why not port there UI ? they stripped sense and got a Touchwiz Ui on top of it why don't we start with an Aosp or AOkp and throw in a Sense UI im not here to argue about getting a full rom my question was hey can we get some sense on our phones and thanks for all the help ive never had a moderator actually reply to my questions its good to have an active moderator on a forum props to you sir
atadres said:
hmmm interesting would that be a possibility for us i747 users?
sir my question was simply why can they bring our UI to them and we cannot port anything to our devices besides Aosp and Aokp and miui they have ports of our UI why not port there UI ? they stripped sense and got a Touchwiz Ui on top of it why don't we start with an Aosp or AOkp and throw in a Sense UI im not here to argue about getting a full rom my question was hey can we get some sense on our phones and thanks for all the help ive never had a moderator actually reply to my questions its good to have an active moderator on a forum props to you sir
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The ui alone is possible but not very sure how stable it'll be though. Probably the main reason nobody has done is: 1. They just don't care about sense. 2. There no demand for sense on the device or 3.nobody thought of it yet?
I try to help out where ever possible. Thanks.
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The ui alone is possible but not very sure how stable it'll be though. Probably the main reason nobody has done is: 1. They just don't care about sense. 2. There no demand for sense on the device or 3.nobody thought of it yet?
I try to help out where ever possible. Thanks.
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The level of activity in development in this particular forum is relatively low although the devs have come up with some pretty genius things I will start this venture and if I am able to get a beta launcher application of sense ui. I will post in the development for testing and see how well it'll catch on I'm not much of a dev. But will give it a shot.
atadres said:
The level of activity in development in this particular forum is relatively low although the devs have come up with some pretty genius things I will start this venture and if I am able to get a beta launcher application of sense ui. I will post in the development for testing and see how well it'll catch on I'm not much of a dev. But will give it a shot.
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If I owned the gs3, I'd help out
Just read this in the news...
HTC mentioned releasing "generic development ROMs" for the future updates of Android, which seem to be stock Android without Sense UI.
HTC also mentioned that those ROMs would be available before future, official Updates, with will have Sense UI integrated.
Source:
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/
What about a development version of Android 4.1?
For our developer community, we plan to make generic development ROMs of Jelly Bean available for both the HTC One X and HTC One S. As soon as the ROMs are ready, they will be posted to our HTCdev site (www.htcdev.com). We strongly recommend customers take the time to understand the limitations of the development software along with the terms and conditions on the site before downloading to their device.
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Actually, if that is really true and I understood correctly, I would seriously reconsider getting the Nexus 4. Sure, we got awesome AOSP ROMs already, like official AOSP, AOKP and CM10, but they all suffer from different little nags because HTC's Framework + device drivers aren't fully open source. For example, in the best case, we could make use of ImageSense within AOSP and as well as HTC Beats Audio, if HTC makes those features available in pure AOSP development releases.
What do you guys think about this?
Does "generic development ROMs" mean preview builds with Sense UI, or actually real "generic" ROMs with pure AOSP?
It's more likely to be a stripped down Sense rom than AOSP
Also, they say "we plan to...", so it could be months before we see anything
Michealtbh said:
It's more likely to be a stripped down Sense rom than AOSP
Also, they say "we plan to...", so it could be months before we see anything
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Yeah, "we plan to..." is a pretty dangerous choice of words if it comes from HTC
We strongly recommend customers take the time to understand the limitations of the development software
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Try4Ce said:
we could make use of ImageSense within AOSP and as well as HTC Beats Audio, if HTC makes those features available in pure AOSP development releases.
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These might be exactly the limitations they are talking about. BUT I very much hope not.
Wow.if HTC will do this, they'll beat Sammy in freaks-area. I can't imagine it will become true
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I highly doubt it'll be stock AOSP. I have a feeling they'll simply reduce functionality.
I don't think so
I really doubt it will be AOSP. I think it will be a regular .401 Sense ROM that developers can easily tinker with.
An AOSP ROM would be pretty cool though :laugh:
Such a move would make HTC awesome again!
I can't post this in the topic on Android Development because of not enough posts ( I should probably get on that....)
I been flashing new roms lately and been on a touchwiz kick. I see Quantum, and I am highly interested. I see that it says its cm based, but its in the same area as touchwiz roms. So is it still touchwiz?
Really I don't even know what the difference between Android Development and Original Android Development is. Like, what is the qualifier for each one?
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I can't post this in the topic on Android Development because of not enough posts ( I should probably get on that....)
I been flashing new roms lately and been on a touchwiz kick. I see Quantum, and I am highly interested. I see that it says its cm based, but its in the same area as touchwiz roms. So is it still touchwiz?
Really I don't even know what the difference between Android Development and Original Android Development is. Like, what is the qualifier for each one?
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It is definitely not a tw ROM, it's aosp. Touchwiz is not open source, aosp obviously is...
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It is definitely not a tw ROM, it's aosp. Touchwiz is not open source, aosp obviously is...
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Well thanks, like I said I didn't know the difference between Android Development Forums and Original Development Forum. I thought just Android dev forum was just modified touchwiz but I guess not.
Still think i'll take a look at it. Looks pretty great. Reason I went to touchwiz was because I was having some serious 3g-4g lte hand off issues on Slimbean. It would take sometimes 30-60 seconds to make the switch over, and I would lose all data and cell signal during that time.