[SOURCE | MINNOW] Kitkat Kernel Source for Moto 360 - Moto 360

Hey folks,
as everyone knows, due to the GPL every company who creates android images is forced to release the kernel source!
I started digging around in the internet and found the sources at Googles git server.
The kernel is based on top of linux kernel version 3.10.x, so here we go:
https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap/+/android-omap-minnow-3.10-kitkat-wear
After i found and ordered a nice usb connector for my Moto 360 which i got last thursday,
i will start creating custom kernels and port over a modded version of cm
(which may takes a while as i have to create a few interface layouts first! ofcourse whishes and ideas are welcome).
Best regards,
OldDroid

Good luck man!

Oh fun. Huh turns out they lowered the standard fps to 45, and in ambient mode its capped down to 30. For battery I guess.
Thanks OMAPa!

Metallice said:
Oh fun. Huh turns out they lowered the standard fps to 45, and in ambient mode its capped down to 30. For battery I guess.
Thanks OMAPa!
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Hm, why would you need 30fps in the dimmed mode (No seconds had there anyway)?
Or are we talking about the normal screen on state with ambient enabled?
Would lowering this further enhance the battery effiency significantly?

Diamondback said:
Hm, why would you need 30fps in the dimmed mode (No seconds had there anyway)?
Or are we talking about the normal screen on state with ambient enabled?
Would lowering this further enhance the battery effiency significantly?
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I think he means the normal screen rate is 30fps with ambient enabled...
I wouldn't mind upping the rate to 60fps because the watch last me a full day with plenty battery left over ... This way we can at least have a smoother experience
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thesparky007 said:
I think he means the normal screen rate is 30fps with ambient enabled...
I wouldn't mind upping the rate to 60fps because the watch last me a full day with plenty battery left over ... This way we can at least have a smoother experience
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Yep the panel can definitely do 60fps. According to the source that was what it was originally set to. Wouldn't be too tricky to revert the relevant changes.
Edit: there actually is a time when the panel runs at 60fps... On the charger :/

Metallice said:
Yep the panel can definitely do 60fps. According to the source that was what it was originally set to. Wouldn't be too tricky to revert the relevant changes.
Edit: there actually is a time when the panel runs at 60fps... On the charger :/
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Haha, yea that totally makes sense :victory: Did you spot yet which cpu governor we are running on by default?

Userspace. Its probably set in the ramdisk on boot like all the other nexuses. Based on older commits it is probably interactive but you'd have to look at the init files to be sure.

There are a lot of interesting things to tweak here not just frame rate. Gestures and sensitivity, frequencies/scaling/voltages, screen/misc timeouts, lots and lots of stuff can be tweaked with ambient mode - the timeouts, the max brightness for the ULP display state, and so on. Looks like we could even go revert back to "normal" ambient mode for those that want it.

there can be made various battery related changes
maybe i gonna try to implement blx (battery life extender) at the weekend, but we will see
i think some governor tweaks can be done aswell ... (don't know if touch boost interface has been implemented by motorola, will check later)

OldDroid said:
there can be made various battery related changes
maybe i gonna try to implement blx (battery life extender) at the weekend, but we will see
i think some governor tweaks can be done aswell ... (don't know if touch boost interface has been implemented by motorola, will check later)
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If you are referring to caf CPU boost then no it is not in this kernel.

MikeC84 said:
If you are referring to caf CPU boost then no it is not in this kernel.
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thx for looking it up!

Diamondback said:
Haha, yea that totally makes sense :victory: Did you spot yet which cpu governor we are running on by default?
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yep, it's interactive:
Code:
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
it's set in init.minnow.rc

Sweet thanks for the link. As for features, can't think of much that isn't already handled via setting proc settings (screen off on charge etc), perhaps add an App that can make these configurable via a GUI?
This probably needs messing around with /system, but my biggest annoyance is probably the fact that cards always cover up my analog faces unless I mute, which still adds the mute logo so not the best solution.

What USB connector did you order?
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blacklistedcard said:
What USB connector did you order?
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I am curious, too, as I do not want to make my own, but want to BL unlock and root.

r3pwn said:
I am curious, too, as I do not want to make my own, but want to BL unlock and root.
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Me too.. Coz I want to participate with this project without messing with home made cables. Mind to share it?
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I want to build a custom kernel for this guy. There are a lot of cool things I could do with CPU scaling, voltages, and ambient mode settings.
Unfortunately I reeeaally don't want to try to hack together my own cable. Hopefully someone will sell one but it seems unlikely.

Metallice said:
I want to build a custom kernel for this guy. There are a lot of cool things I could do with CPU scaling, voltages, and ambient mode settings.
Unfortunately I reeeaally don't want to try to hack together my own cable. Hopefully someone will sell one but it seems unlikely.
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Yeah, newer toolchain and some optimizations would really help that old processing in the Moto 360. I just wish we did not have you use a custom cable.

Will it ever be possible root over adb? Or through the NFC charger plugged into a PC?
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Related

SetCPU

currently i have setCPU running on my rooted Dinc with several profiles set.........my question is what is the optimum settings for:
Sampling Rate
Up threshold
ignore Nice load
Powersave bias
mine currently are 40000,70,0,0
i'm trying to find a good setting for best battery life b/c i'm constitenly on my phone all day!!!
thanks for any input.....
What kernal r u running? Several recommend no profiles, and oc will run the battery down.
trembly01 said:
currently i have setCPU running on my rooted Dinc with several profiles set.........my question is what is the optimum settings for:
Sampling Rate
Up threshold
ignore Nice load
Powersave bias
mine currently are 40000,70,0,0
i'm trying to find a good setting for best battery life b/c i'm constitenly on my phone all day!!!
thanks for any input.....
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i'm just running stock kernal, i'm not comfortable enough with the phone yet to changed kernals........i just setting a default profile so the phone would run 384 on the low end and 786 on high end but when i check system panel it shows the cpu still running up to the max, so i don't know whats going on and if there is anything i need to do to fix it.
do you have "set at boot" checked?
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do you have "set at boot" checked?
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yea i did, i read somewhere on here that the "perflock" has to be disabled when using a stock kernal and running froyo, any truth to that ??? and a friend of mine has an incredible and he told me that these mods really don't make that much of a difference, now he's a verizon sales rep so he may be telling me that so i don't change my phone too much
trembly01 said:
now he's a verizon sales rep so he may be telling me that so i don't change my phone too much
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generally speaking there are two types of people who are employees for phone companies:
A) someone who just wants a paycheck
B) geeks like us who like to hack and mod and tinker
A will tell you that hacking will void warranty, blah blah blah....mostly because they don't know much about what stuff is. B will tell you what they know, and admit when they don't know something.
it sounds like your friend is falling into the A category, especially if they're saying "mods don't change much". they change quite a bit, so be careful.
as far as your question in the OP, with my eris i would just mess with stuff, and see how the phone runs. don't save to run at boot until you know it's stable and will not crash or freeze your phone. adjust settings, and see how it responds, repeat as necessary.
trembly01 said:
i'm just running stock kernal, i'm not comfortable enough with the phone yet to changed kernals........i just setting a default profile so the phone would run 384 on the low end and 786 on high end but when i check system panel it shows the cpu still running up to the max, so i don't know whats going on and if there is anything i need to do to fix it.
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nandroid and flash KK#5. you won't be sorry, its very stable and very quick
MMBosstones86 said:
nandroid and flash KK#5. you won't be sorry, its very stable and very quick
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where can i get that kernel ??
Yes you have to disable perflock.
I only adjusted my power bias to 650 I think which is 65%. 1000 being 100% and 10 being 1%. All this does is make sure you cpu stays on the lower end of the usage. I have a 2150 and stream pandora a lot and always have 3g running, I go online and everything and I get 2 days of usage with a down clock and some profiles.
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trembly01 said:
where can i get that kernel ??
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google or the android development forum, don't have the link on hand
mihneagabriel said:
Yes you have to disable perflock.
I only adjusted my power bias to 650 I think which is 65%. 1000 being 100% and 10 being 1%. All this does is make sure you cpu stays on the lower end of the usage. I have a 2150 and stream pandora a lot and always have 3g running, I go online and everything and I get 2 days of usage with a down clock and some profiles.
Are you running stock HTC sense Rom?
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Yes
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trembly01 said:
where can i get that kernel ??
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Search works wonders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760050

One X keeps overheating

Hi!
It's the summer where I live and it's like above 40°C in my appartment (Yeah, I've a free sauna, jealous?), and this cause my One X to overheat all the time, I'm not even doing "heavy" stuff, just browsing the Internet or Facebook via Wifi, I already tried to slow down the CPU to 1200Mhz but it is still very hot, is there a solution to avoid this issue (apart from "DON'T TOUCH IT!"), I can't believe that Taiwan is a cold country and that the HTC was not made to work at 40°C...
You can see my ROM and Kernel above this message (signature) I'm trying to install Viper ROM to see if it fixes the issue... :fingers-crossed:
Nevermind, I fixed it, I used wrong voltage and too low down threshold value in SetCPU which caused the CPU to overheat and stand longer activated, silly me
Tableuraz said:
Nevermind, I fixed it, I used wrong voltage and too low down threshold value in SetCPU which caused the CPU to overheat and stand longer activated, silly me
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Could you tell us what configuration you're using? I'm kinda having the same problem.
Appreciate your help.
cpu over heating
alibahaloo said:
Could you tell us what configuration you're using? I'm kinda having the same problem.
Appreciate your help.
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Tableuraz said:
Nevermind, I fixed it, I used wrong voltage and too low down threshold value in SetCPU which caused the CPU to overheat and stand longer activated, silly me
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i would like to know the same thing, what voltage calibration did you use and when you were able to get the temp down to what you liked did you still have good gaming performance?
niceguy_1920 said:
i would like to know the same thing, what voltage calibration did you use and when you were able to get the temp down to what you liked did you still have good gaming performance?
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he fixed nothing, he messed up his cpu settings and noticed it later, so he put the cpu settings back to stock.
alutastisch said:
he fixed nothing, he messed up his cpu settings and noticed it later, so he put the cpu settings back to stock.
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gotcha....:silly:
niceguy_1920 said:
gotcha....:silly:
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Wow, what a up !
Seriously though, I'm not using my HTC One X anymore, but last time I used it, I used Faux kernel with -100 uV and some Ondemand governor tweaks (mostly to lower frequencies at as state that is just above lags) and it was running lagfree and a lot cooler than stock, but I hope you don't mind loosing a bit of 3D perf...

[MOD] G•P•U Rendering = C.P.U Rending Off!!

DISABLING CPU RENDERING
Credit goes to Leowaliet.
So what does this mod give to us?
What does this help us with?
•Speed √
•Smoothness √
•Sound √
•Less Battery Drain √
Works with any ROM
So, if you have Faux 11 kernel + this mod.
(In Algebraic Equation)
F+M=EpixNeshh
In technical terms, we are disabling CPU Rendering from the system so it force GPU to work on all Graphics.
So why not?
Would it hurt no?
Try it, YOU WONT REGRET IT :screwy:
*THIS WILL LET IMAGES IN XDA APPEAR*
*WILL NOT BREAK APPS*
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Isn't this already a toggle under Developer settings in ICS+ ROMs?
thehandi said:
Isn't this already a toggle under Developer settings in ICS+ ROMs?
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This stops it for all ROMS. And doesn't brake some of the apps.
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Link won't work if you don't have an account on that site.
bobpantsspongesquare said:
Link won't work if you don't have an account on that site.
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+1
here it is...havent tried it
alphadog32 said:
DISABLING CPU RENDERING
So what does this mod give to us?
What does this help us with?
•Speed √
•Smoothness √
•Sound √
So, if you have Faux 11 kernel + this mod.
(In Algebraic Equation)
F+M=EpixNeshh
In technical terms, we are disabling CPU Rendering from the system so it force GPU to work on all Graphics.
So why not?
Would it hurt no?
Try it, YOU WONT REGRET IT :screwy:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...uide-disable-cpu-rendering-vm670_eglpatch.zip
First To Port MIUIv4 to T989
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This is already set by default in many custom ROMs but alsoeans you can't see pictures on apps like XDA
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Try it, YOU WONT REGRET IT
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Actually...I did regret it, as I can't see any pics in XDA and in
my Sopcast, the stream is very "choppy" and with worst
color quality. So......Sorry.
Even in custom Roms, the first thing I do is uncheck the "Force GPU..."
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This is not using the phone's Settings.
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alphadog32 said:
This is not using the phone's Settings.
First To Port MIUIv4 to T989
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this mod is wrong!! dude! it will brake apps that need it to work, GPU only works wen need it, this mod desable 2D and 3D drawing
richardlibeau said:
you do not need this mod. just go to system/lib/egl and delete the first line android 0 0. this does the same thing as this mod. I did it on my phone and it works fine. No graphics problems . All hi tech games like asphalt,spiderman, avatar. cs portable, gta3 all play great. Videos do too. You can also add debug.composition.type=gpu to build prop and delete any other composition type that's in build prop to force gpu rendering for graphics
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Thank you. Every one thinks it will break things. It is like saying I have a Land Rover with 4v4. Now, you're going up a hill and to run it up, you buy newer and better wheels. It still gets up, but slower. It would be a lot smarter to enable 4v4 so it can climb faster and more efficient. So GPU is supposed to run the Graphics Interface. Not the Processing Unit. Does it make sense? Of course not. Using GPU for its dedicated reason it is a way more reasonable thought. So why would you want it disabled?
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alphadog32 said:
Thank you. Every one thinks it will break things. It is like saying I have a Land Rover with 4v4. Now, you're going up a hill and to run it up, you buy newer and better wheels. It still gets up, but slower. It would be a lot smarter to enable 4v4 so it can climb faster and more efficient. So GPU is supposed to run the Graphics Interface. Not the Processing Unit. Does it make sense? Of course not. Using GPU for its dedicated reason it is a way more reasonable thought. So why would you want it disabled?
First To Port MIUIv4 to T989
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The theory is all nice and logical, however, let me quote something:
Every one thinks it will break things.
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I'm one of the "everyone" and I do not "think" it will break stuff, I know it does and I can reproduce it at a drop of my hat!
So why would you want it disabled?
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Because of my above proof (proof for me)....that's why.
However, it's nice that people can have a choice. For others may work better.
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Well it hasn't broken any apps for me.
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I'm not sure why everyone is jumping on the OP so hard.. he stated clearly in the second or third post that it Works without breaking anything .. I flashed it on my AOKP JB build with no problems and it didn't break anything like the option in development settings does... for example .. xda app loads pictures perfectly.
Maybe test it next time before flaming give it a test...
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All I know is the guy is trying to help the community and you guys all just bashed him.. I dont even think any of you even bothered to say thanks..
RushAOZ said:
Because you're probably not using any old apps that haven't been updated for ICS. Not jumping on the OP I'm simply stating this mod isn't needed because the GPU is already rendering everything. CPU will only render old apps so if you don't have any old apps then this mod is essentially useless. You're not forcing the GPU to do something it isn't already doing.
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OK.. then riddle me this.. Using the option in development settings breaks my XDA and my FRF app, meaning they wont load pictures in the app.. However this mod has not caused this side effect..
RushAOZ said:
This mod isn't needed. The whole reason GPU rendering exists in ICS/JB is for apps that were written on GB. GB written apps didn't support GPU acceleration by default. With ICS and JB apps are written with GPU rendering on by default.
Basically these settings ONLY effect old apps that haven't been updated to ICS/GB. This is why disabling CPU rendering will break some apps as experienced by some of you above. GPU rendering is supposed.to force the GPU to render old apps and while it works most of the time there are apps that you can't force and you get errors and artifacts. So many misconceptions with this setting lol. Just leave it on. Problem solved.
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According to pocket now force gpu rendering is basically used to off load the graphical tasks given to the CPU in apps that aren't optimized for ICS. ICS has this option enabled by default when writing apps for it but with apps written on GB down to cupcake 1.6, gpu rendering when writing apps is off by default.
Basically, leave it on as its probably helping your CPU run older unoptimized apps more efficiently since it doesn't have to process the graphical UI for that app too.
http://pocketnow.com/2012/05/25/wha...-in-ice-cream-sandwich/?wpmp_switcher=desktop
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Its also pretty hilarious that you say this and are bending it to make your self correct..
YES newer applications that are based on the newer SDK have the ability to do this Nativity regardless of what you have checked or unchecked..
BUT it is not ONLY going to be beneficial for apps that are not.. it will force ALL rendering through your GPU and leaving the computation to the CPU giving your system an edge.. while be it a small one, but never the less an edge as far as CPU processing times and Graphics quality output ..
PJcastaldo said:
All I know is the guy is trying to help the community and you guys all just bashed him.. I dont even think any of you even bothered to say thanks..
OK.. then riddle me this.. Using the option in development settings breaks my XDA and my FRF app, meaning they wont load pictures in the app.. However this mod has not caused this side effect..
Its also pretty hilarious that you say this and are bending it to make your self correct..
YES newer applications that are based on the newer SDK have the ability to do this Nativity regardless of what you have checked or unchecked..
BUT it is not ONLY going to be beneficial for apps that are not.. it will force ALL rendering through your GPU and leaving the computation to the CPU giving your system an edge.. while be it a small one, but never the less an edge as far as CPU processing times and Graphics quality output ..
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Thanks man. Felt it right in the heart.
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Ok enough arguing here, stay on topic and stop assuming that this or that will happen until you have tried the MOD. If you don't like or want to try it, stay out of the thread. Don't troll dev threads.
Noellenchris
XDA Forum MOD
alphadog32, thanks (I did hit the Thanks button), but one needs
more info in the OP, like, how to install it, does it work with default
kernel, or only with Faux, what Rom is compatible with....and so on.
Thanks for this.
:good:
I apologize I misread/ misunderstood what the OP was saying. Since the mod is actually configuring the egl libs, this WILL NOT break your pics as force gpu in setting will. Everybody thank the OP and move this thread forward
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Flashed it a few hours ago, seems pretty solid so far. At least it certainly hasn't given me any problems with games or other apps. It's almost weird seeing pictures load on the XDA app btw, because it's been a long time since I've seen them work... lol. Running it on CM9.1.

Anyone else feels battery drains a lot faster on 4.1.2

Korean ver.
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nope, same with latest 4.0.4
Much better now that it's rooted and setCPU profiles are enabled once again F180L owner.
I actually see a really nice improvement in battery life over 4.0.4. My wakelocks are now 1/4 of what they were. My problem is CPU related - cant get up (to 1.5 ghz... Throttled down to 1.1 almost all the time)
Emm, why do you need 1.5ghz?
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Emm, why do you need 1.5ghz?
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I am so confused by this question
Because, like many other people, I bought this phone in part for its processing power. I could have saved a lot of money by getting a slower but uncrippled phone (even stock gingerbread on my Galaxy S was 'good enough' for basic tasks). And yes, I have noticed lags since the speed has been mostly capped at 1.1ghz. I dont expect there to be full speed all the time, but I'd like it to be as snappy as possible when I am doing light activities with it, like web browsing. Why would anybody be content to have a 30% reduction in their phone's capabilities?
UPDATE: the lags I was experiencing seem to have been softare related. They appear to have disappeared after a clean install of JB and manual install of all apps from play store
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Korean ver.
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Oh yeah. What is draining your battery? Is it a specific application or just the OS? If its the OS you can install Better Battery Stats and take a look at your kernel wakelock statistics.
Something wrong with your unit, cause mine one doesnt lag at all even on 700mhz with 2 cores disabled.
Also on 1.1ghz its still most powerfull CPU on the market, but its your way.
I believe you can disable thermal protection in service menu.
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Something wrong with your unit, cause mine one doesnt lag at all even on 700mhz with 2 cores disabled.
Also on 1.1ghz its still most powerfull CPU on the market, but its your way.
I believe you can disable thermal protection in service menu.
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Thanks for your advice to check the service menu in more depth but I didnt see the option there. I wouldnt really want to disable it if I could since it does have a use (I'd rather my battery didnt overheat and explode or something ).
Unlikely that there is something wrong with my unit. The lags arent choppy, per se, but more fractional delays that werent there before the upgrade to JB. I probably would not have said anything if I hadn't seen the phone's prior behaviour. And yes, it is my way - I like things to function as they were intended regardless of whether the current performance is "good enough". Lopping off the top multiplier almost entirely seems like a crude way to regulate the operation and temperature of the phone [.. but the new information below suggests that this isnt intentional...] . If I have to compromise at some level, I will gladly take this (nearly imperceptible) loss of function for the improved battery life I am seeing in this ROM.
Update: the weird frequencies I have been seeing have been reported by others using the same rom as me. It seems to be related to the kernel.
Here we go. Just installed setcpu to show you the service settings works. Also im able to set 100% brightness whenever i want.
I used to underclock cpu on ics, but someday ive realized LTE eats battery 10x times faster, so everything ive done with setcpu is kinda useless.
So i just dont care whats going on with cpu freq since it still lighting fast.
Also JB doesnt lag even on old 1ghz devices cause of triple buffer and forced vsync. I think you still should check your phone.
p.s. Latest F180K official rom
Tim4 said:
Here we go. Just installed setcpu to show you the service settings works. Also im able to set 100% brightness whenever i want.
I used to underclock cpu on ics, but someday ive realized LTE eats battery 10x times faster, so everything ive done with setcpu is kinda useless.
So i just dont care whats going on with cpu freq since it still lighting fast.
Also JB doesnt lag even on old 1ghz devices cause of triple buffer and forced vsync. I think you still should check your phone.
p.s. Latest F180K official rom
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Thanks again for your advice, although that screenshot has nothing to do with the service settings and JB does lag quite a bit on older 1 Ghz devices, as I can attest by having JB running on my Samsung Galaxy S. I reinstalled JB as cleanly as possible and manually reinstalled all my usual apps from the play store and the lags seem to have disappeared. Maybe there was a problem with my recovery softare ? I edited my earlier post to reflect this, but the change in CPU frequency is still there.
As I was trying to say before, you and I are using different phones and different roms. It seems to be a recognized quirk with the rom I am using that while the phone is unplugged, the cpu frequency and screen brightness are very heavily regulated (cannot run @ 1.5 or full brightness even while phone is cool; goes away when the phone is plugged in). Please do not start telling me that 100% brightness is as unnecessary as 100% cpu frequency (I dont ever use 100%). I think you and I will just disagree on acceptable limitations of capabilities, even if I agree with you that they dont affect normal phone use at all. I see it as a mystery that needs solving.
And I am glad to hear that your phone works so well with the official rom . I could wait for official JB on the e973 but I'm impatient and Houstonn did a great job with the port.
So your phone's service menu doesnt have the High Temperature Property and the Thermal Daemon disable buttons?
You still can ask someone to disassemble korean version service menu to find the flags so you can use it on E973
Tim4 said:
So your phone's service menu doesnt have the High Temperature Property and the Thermal Daemon disable buttons?
You still can ask someone to disassemble korean version service menu to find the flags so you can use it on E973
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There's a chance I'm still just missing it or looking for the wrong thing... Could I ask you to just take a screen shot of your menu setting for me?
Sure lol
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Sure lol
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ha ha, yeah I definitely dont have that option. Thanks a lot.
UPDATE: This fixed all problems
no hidden menu for korean versions?
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Actually the screenshot is from F180K
3845#*180#

[Q] Core and frequency control according to temperature

My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!
le_vente said:
My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!
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You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
Mate996 said:
You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Very helpful...
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Mate996 said:
You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Not exactly understand...
There must be a safe setting for it as with Perseus kernel the thresholds are higher, but not too much. I forgot to edit my question according my experiences with Perseus.
At least with Perseus I get a max of 1000MHz at most cases but it is not enough for me cause I use apps needing high resources.
Would You be so kind to write about the value to be changed in order to get higher thresholds?
If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
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If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
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Thank You for the advice!
Now I had some time so I'm on Saber kernel and just testing.
The testing is awesome till now: the phone is working more powerful with this kernel and doesn't get hot so soon. :good:
Oh, now there is something strange, the programs get FC-s...
The phone is on charger, I ran AutoGuard in the background in FullHD, Sygic and Waze in MultiWindow, VideoPlayer in popup with a FullHD video and SuperPlayer in popup with another FullHD video. It was extremely fine but after a few minutes the players collapsed and AutoGuard had an error. The system is stable anyway. It seems I have to restart phone now...
Edit: After restart I got an old problem back: Dropbox is unable to run again... I loved Perseus because of this, on Perseus this problem was away... I hope that I won't get the other issue back with my WiFi... And it seems, AutoGuard became stupid too... :crying:
I don't give up and keep on trying to make them ok.
But I can't find the thermal control feature in Trickster Mod Donation altough I have just a minute for it.
I am reading Trickster webpage to get ahead...
Question: Are You using Jedi ROM and have no thermal problems?
In that case I'm going to try that ROM, cause I'm on hunting for a ROM that works with no problems for me.
I tried some lately and till now Omega v18 was the best amongst them. I tried MIUI, ProBam, Hawkish in the last days and I get problems with all of them or had non-working applications and/or features which ones are essentials for me...
Edit: mmmmmmmm, as see there is no Jedi ROM for international N7100...
hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.
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hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.
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Thank You for Your effort!
I'll keep on investigating for a solution.
Unfortunately the real test was horrible with Saber kernel, when I tested it in car the temperature got high soon and the thersholds were low again.
But it's a good idea to try o/c thank You very much!
I'll try it tomorrow, now I have to go to play Cod4... :laugh:
And I found that TWRP is recommended for Saber and a few minutes untouching after the restart so I'll try again.
Have a nice day!
you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod
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you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod
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Thank You again!
I got some experiences with the newest Saber kernel and I like it 'cause the first kernel I can use 100MHz step with and using 300MHz step too.
It seemes to be good at battery consumption too. My only problem that this kernel doesn't support STweaks so I can't regulate charging voltages like I used to. Perhaps only Perseus kernel makes it possible as I can't get any other programs for it till now. Or NEAK kernel and the new versions of AGNi pureSTOCK kernel as I read their pages. I'll try them some day. But Perseus is my favourite.
I think it's important to say that the kernel isn't UC/OC by default so this doesn't make any problems and it's not UV-ed too.
I set min. to 100MHz and max. to 1920MHz to test and it's stable till now. I tried to Overvolt slightly and had no change on media programs behavior they don't like each other as I see.
Trickster Mod is nice 'cause it shows the CPU temperature which was helpful to understand this regulations of thermal control are needed.
When I tested it turned out that CPU is below 70 degrees while the battery temparuture is 'only' about 40 degrees.
So thanks for Your kind advises!
wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?
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wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?
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No, I didn't overvolt at last. But once I tried and didn't helped on my problems.
Unfortunately now I'm back on Perseus kernel again 'cause some issues with Saber. It became crazy every time and locked my CPU on 160MHz only and only reboot helped.
The other issue was the stuck system server process what was active all night and didn't stop hard work.
Now I'm on reading the kernel's page till I get cleverer on it... then I perhaps try it again 'cause I liked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260397&page=5

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