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Cooking/Building My First rom for EVO, HELP

Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.

SmartB0y said:
Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.
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So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.

Op= original poster. The other questions I will leave for the true devs
Sent from my Evolution

OP: person who started thread.
Linux distro: not necessary, but many like Ubuntu (I have used Red Hat for a long time)
Tools: Download a kitchen if you just want to build roms, otherwise ask specific questions on what it is you are looking to do and usually someone here can either get you what you want.....or at least point you in the right direction.
And yes, this should have been posted in Q&A
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lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.[/QUOTE
Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
Sent from my Evolution
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Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
Sent from my Evolution
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Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.

Building my first Rom
lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.
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no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to dig.

SmartB0y said:
no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to stand on.
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Your welcome. Good luck. If you need assistance on compiling or understanding that process checkout my thread and/or PM me.

lithid-cm said:
Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.
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Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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corybucher said:
Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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If you have a bad taste in your mouth then your should probably brush your teeth. Then move on. Even the OP understood. Have a great weekend.

Brushed my teeth this morning but thanks for the advice. Seems you always need that last little word in there somewhere which is fine because not offense taken by your comments. Just defending a fellow geekdroider like myself from the devs that think their crap don't stink. Jump off your high horse and work on you rom creations because I don't use em anyway. Thanks buddy have a great weekend and happy droiding.
Sent from my Evolution

Lol to up above but I understand where both of you are coming from. OP I wouldn't mind assisting.you if you need some help also. I just made my first rom two days ago took a month but the people on here a very helpful even if they are blunt lol I think they give the best help because they make you.think.about if you seriously want to become a dev the nice ones are also great help I don't think.the community would be as strong.if we didn't have blunt people that the nice people get into it with. They kinda go hand and hand lol they give helpful info when arguing and not even realize.
Swyped From My Rom But I Will Always Be A Mynion!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
good luck.

Building my own ROM from AOSP

Hey all,
Just curious - are there any tutorials anywhere that walk you through building your own ROM for the EVO from the AOSP project? I'd like to get into building my own so that I don't have to rely on other's updates, etc.
Thanks!
Ricky

**CLICK HERE** for the search feature

Concordium said:
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Seriously? Does everyone need to include the line, "I've already tried searching." in the original post so that an absolutely unnecessary and obvious answer isn't the first one posted? If so, then..
I've already tried searching.
I continue to come up with bull**** posts about building AOSP for other phones. I've searched all morning and haven't come up with anything, hence, the creation of the thread. Thanks for attempting to be a smartass, though.

UndeadCircus said:
Seriously? Does everyone need to include the line, "I've already tried searching." in the original post so that an absolutely unnecessary and obvious answer isn't the first one posted? If so, then..
I've already tried searching.
I continue to come up with bull**** posts about building AOSP for other phones. I've searched all morning and haven't come up with anything, hence, the creation of the thread. Thanks for attempting to be a smartass, though.
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Actually yes, it would help that we know you've already searched. Forgive me for seeing that the vast majority of people who post questions do so without searching and not knowing that you, miraculously, were not amongst said majority. Thanks for succeeding at being an ungrateful prick.
And just an FYI, seeing as how you apparently have no experience on the topic, at least that's what your poorly specified post implied, you would be able to learn a lot about the process of creating your own ROM from the search results I posted. Just because it doesn't say "HTC Evo" on it doesn't mean there is no experience or wisdom to be gained from it. Try doing what the rest of us do. Read what resources are available and then start experimenting with it until you can find someone who can give more specific direction. There will be difference between phones but you can still get the basis for working with Android based systems. Otherwise, we'll be seeing another thread like this from you when you get a new phone. I tried to help as best I could. I'm sorry it wasn't to your satisfaction.

Concordium said:
Actually yes, it would help that we know you've already searched. Forgive me for seeing that the vast majority of people who post questions do so without searching and not knowing that you, miraculously, were not amongst said majority. Thanks for succeeding at being an ungrateful prick.
And just an FYI, seeing as how you apparently have no experience on the topic, at least that's what your poorly specified post implied, you would be able to learn a lot about the process of creating your own ROM from the search results I posted. Just because it doesn't say "HTC Evo" on it doesn't mean there is no experience or wisdom to be gained from it. Try doing what the rest of us do. Read what resources are available and then start experimenting with it until you can find someone who can give more specific direction. There will be difference between phones but you can still get the basis for working with Android based systems. Otherwise, we'll be seeing another thread like this from you when you get a new phone. I tried to help as best I could. I'm sorry it wasn't to your satisfaction.
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It was actually far from being satisfactory. Forgive me, but why in the holy hell would I learn to develop for a phone that I don't have? Honestly. Once the source is built and created, what am I going to do with said source? Not a damn thing. I have no phone to install it to. Building for a phone that I own would be more help to me then building for a phone that I do not own.
Maybe if most of the people around here took a second to actually help someone, there wouldn't be a problem with the vast majority of smart asses replying with a search link. Don't try and convince yourself that you're being helpful and expect me to say "thank you." You're far from it.

Search for dsixda rom kitchen. That will help you get started.
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The guy was trying to help you. You are stupid man sorry but people like you desrve ****. He was giving you a link, you should ve said thank you for that. With your attitude the only thing you'll get is F..
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UndeadCircus said:
It was actually far from being satisfactory. Forgive me, but why in the holy hell would I learn to develop for a phone that I don't have? Honestly. Once the source is built and created, what am I going to do with said source? Not a damn thing. I have no phone to install it to. Building for a phone that I own would be more help to me then building for a phone that I do not own.
Maybe if most of the people around here took a second to actually help someone, there wouldn't be a problem with the vast majority of smart asses replying with a search link. Don't try and convince yourself that you're being helpful and expect me to say "thank you." You're far from it.
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You're right. All Android phones run on the Linux based Android operating system. So what on earth could you possibly learn from a thread about a phone that uses the same operating system? Like I said, the phones each have some differences but the overall basis of how the system works is the same. So yes, the threads I posted are helpful. They contain enough information to get you started in the right direction until you can find information that reviews the specific differences that you can then apply to the Evo. If you could get over yourself for a minute or two in order to open your mind you'd be able to realize that. You're the one that came here with questions. Seems kind of naive to pick and choose which answer you want to hear and then whine about the ones you don't understand.
Either way, I gave you something helpful. It's up to you whether or not you choose to use it. Best of luck to you.
Edit: People on this site, myself included, do nothing but help each other. If you can't see that then the problem is not with this site. The problem is with you.

I'm with him
Concordium said:
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I have been wondering this same question as I pondered to develop my own ROM, this link was actually helpful. Sometimes people overlook things and its helpful to get a second opinion, which is why I believe this entire Q&A thread exists. So it is puzzling to me why would come here to get a second opinion and then ***** out the first person to try to help.
I just can't understand why you ask for help and then criticize help... And this is why XDA needs a "Negative Thanks" button.

Cherokee4Life said:
I have been wondering this same question as I pondered to develop my own ROM, this link was actually helpful. Sometimes people overlook things and its helpful to get a second opinion, which is why I believe this entire Q&A thread exists. So it is puzzling to me why would come here to get a second opinion and then ***** out the first person to try to help.
I just can't understand why you ask for help and then criticize help... And this is why XDA needs a "Negative Thanks" button.
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The only problem with a negative thanks button is that people like UndeadCircus would be pressing negative thanks all the time because they didn't like, or don't understand, the answer they were given. People are a lot more willing to toss out negativity than they are optimism and gratitude. In the end I see it like this; My responsibility here is to help others to the best of my ability. People can either be open minded to the help given here and see all the opportunities laid before them or they can remain closed minded and in the end not gain as much knowledge as they otherwise would have. Either way, I've done my job and the decision on whether or not to take advantage of it is on them.

@OP
There are two threads in evo development about your question.
The author is lithid-cm.
~ I'm a fungi

Android 4.0

Hi just seen a video of android 4.0 and it looks cool. Is there any ROM that has this?
Thanks

Did you check the development section for Desire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660
Everthing is working sweet except the camera.

Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?

erklat said:
Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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I see another thread that can use the same answer man.

erklat said:
Really? Is it possible to be THAT uninformed?
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This is xda, a place where stupidity goes beyond boundaries of reality.

Rotfl. Way to funny for words.

Thanks guys

theres a new 4.0.3 custom rom for desire, much smoother but still no camera
try it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416641

I think the ignorant ones are those who are forgetting that we are all noobs and clueless at the beginning. Then they gain a little knowledge, and suddenly think they're better than everyone else. This attitude is RAMPANT on this board.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using XDA App

There is a new ICS rom named Evervold with android 4.0.3 and Chaosz-X kernel with HW Acc very stable.

DamonZ28 said:
I think the ignorant ones are those who are forgetting that we are all noobs and clueless at the beginning. Then they gain a little knowledge, and suddenly think they're better than everyone else. This attitude is RAMPANT on this board.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using XDA App
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I agree. We are here to help each other no matter the level of experience.
Terepin, I am sure you'll feel a lot better if you start helping _everyone_.

@DamonZ28 and @sudkcoce:
I also agree on that, but the thread opener already has more than 100 posts. How does that fit?
on topic:
Tried the ROM in Sandvold's Thread some days ago. Working quite good so far, but needs a little more speed.

sudkcoce said:
I agree. We are here to help each other no matter the level of experience.
Terepin, I am sure you'll feel a lot better if you start helping _everyone_.
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It's not matter of level of experience, but level of stupidity. People who can't/won't/are lazy to use search and read, asking questions that were answered billions of times, asking for info that is available in sticky threads and posting "this rockz/I love you/can i have your autograph?" **** deserve to burn in BAN hell.
Users which actually do require help from senior members are only few. The rest is just lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs, thinking that we are obligated to help them.
BULL****!
We already lost several great developers because of them and I'll fight them until my last breath, to slow down the process of turning this place into n00b swamp. 'Cause it's happening already, you mark my words on that.

Terepin said:
It's not matter of level of experience, but level of stupidity. People who can't/won't/are lazy to use search and read, asking questions that were answered billions of times, asking for info that is available in sticky threads and posting "this rockz/I love you/can i have your autograph?" **** deserve to burn in BAN hell.
Users which actually do require help from senior members are only few. The rest is just lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs, thinking that we are obligated to help them.
BULL****!
We already lost several great developers because of them and I'll fight them until my last breath, to slow down the process of turning this place into n00b swamp. 'Cause it's happening already, you mark my words on that.
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Dude chill out man, we all start somewhere, some people have much more experience than others that doesn't make them "lazy stupid little kids and ungrateful pigs"
If you have a problem with people on the forums just leave them alone. i am in no way the most experienced guy here. i cant develop new ROMS/Apps/themes or anything to be honest. i just use what other people have made. i asked questions on how to flash a new rom when i joined the forums. i read the tutorials, does that make me a " lazy stupid little kid and an ungrateful pig"?

You read tutorials, yet you asked how to flash ROM?

Terepin said:
You read tutorials, yet you asked how to flash ROM?
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To be exact i messed something up and my phone was stuck in a bootloop while flashing a ROM. And guess what, someone helped me out and got it working for me! Isn't that amazing! The wonders of people HELPING others out
I get there are loads of tutorials out there, telling people exactly what to do and if something goes wrong what they should do, but if someone ask's for help, why not reply with a helpful answer rather than being a complete prick?

Edit: Ignore this. Mods delete this post.
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ronilzizou said:
To be exact i messed something up and my phone was stuck in a bootloop while flashing a ROM. And guess what, someone helped me out and got it working for me! Isn't that amazing! The wonders of people HELPING others out
I get there are loads of tutorials out there, telling people exactly what to do and if something goes wrong what they should do, but if someone ask's for help, why not reply with a helpful answer rather than being a complete prick?
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Because those tutorials exist purely for the purpose of answering FAQ, so newbies don't have to ask them all the time. And yet, they still do. There is a word for that, and that word is spamming.
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ICS
Now with camera - HERE

I think the biggest annoyance with this thread is that the OP is clearly aware of how to flash ROMs, and therefore I would assume where to find them. Therefore a very quick look at the dev forum would have shown them the ICS builds currently being developed - making this thread needless.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Just a little rant.......

Just seen Venum post about giving up on keeping up with discussion threads because ppl just refuse to read. One of our great devs seems frustrated....... can't blame him.
I've been playing around with this ROM sh#t for a couple years now. This ''why don't ppl just read'' thing is just always gonna be a problem. Maybe until someone way smarter then my dumbass can create some sort of program that before your able to post a question a Page or Page numbers will pop up? IDK.... Maybe some ppl are lazy and others are just too busy.
IMO starting separate discussion threads just isn't the answer. I find myself bouncing back and forth between both threads to get info on whats going on.
Hell I'm BADLY guilty of not researching. A week after a buddy from work mentioned something about roms I posted a question in the HTC dev thread when I ran into a problem. I got flamed big time. Ya know ''Hows the battery life on this rom?'' and all that.
I had an HTC TBolt before this badass phone. In two days we lost two great devs partly because of frustration with ppl in the threads. The flaming and why don't ppl just read.
I love this hobby. Just something too eff around with when I'm bored. There is ALOT of really cool and helpful peeps in these threads. Great devs too. I've looked into theming and after I found out about all the time it involved, I thought there is no way I could do this. I appreciate the time and work these devs and themers put into giving us there awesome work.
I'm 38 yrs old with a wife and a three yr old son. Don't know if I'm wise enough to give ya'll any advise but I'm going to give it anyway. All this is a cellphone and a hobby....... someone post a question that's been asked and answered a thousand times.... so what. Help if you want, or else move on. Don't take this sh#t too seriously.
This doesn't go out to the devs,contributers, or themers......I wouldn't be able to understand your frustration with some of this stuff in these threads only because of the time you put into this.
Venum,Erick,Mijjah74,BTR,Sfhub etc. etc.
Thanks.......
/End rant

Couldn't have said it better myself! Well said man.
Sent from my iPhone killer.

Beautifully said.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

One of the best devs on my old phone just dropped phantom updates and almost never posted. People would mention issues or wants and a future release would often be updated with hose thigs. He would typically just update the op without even bumping the thread.
To all you devs out there hanks for your work but do it for yourself guys life it short and you deserve to have fun and enjoy what you do. I spent the last 6 years in bs jobs and finally got back to doing what I love, IT. I dont have the skills or ability in software but I'm working on my ccna right now. I can at least keep the network running for you guys in the future.

Personally, I enjoy the questions posted in my theme threads. I wouldn't ever make a discussion thread because I find it pointless. If people want to post something positive or constructive criticism in my thread, be my quest. I'm all open for ideas and opinions. I always have my own personal variants anyways.
I can understand people being unappreciative, and that can become frustrating. The devs just gotta realize that there are people like that EVERYWHERE and shouldn't let it bother them.

Amen!
Man these things fall funny sometimes lol I was commenting on the first post but didn't quote it in my response.

I'm not big on the idea of having 2 threads either. I always liked it better when it was one thread in development and everything was done inside that thread. But I also think people should read a little more and also utilize the search tool. If you go over the threads you will see the same questions asked in different ways, over and over again. I actually avoid the Hydra rom thread because of this. The devs definitely show a lot of restraint and still try their best to be helpful. Maybe once the official drops and we quit getting leaks every couple of days, things will get better. I myself definitely appreciate everything that all of the devs do in this community.
Sent from my Twisted - VeNuMized Epic 4G Touch.

I feel that users who jumped onto the dev thread grabbing 2nd 3rd 4th post etc just for fun of it. It would be so nice if you did not grab those post and leave it to the dev or since you do have it, try to do something proactive and post relevant updates/status/bugs. Simple questions & answers. I remember on the miui.us forum Just_S did an amazing job on tackling this even before he was promoted to moderator.

Every forum on XDA is like this.

Another good reason to search through the threads is that you learn so much other good stuff that comes in handy down the road. If I had just asked a question every time I ran into trouble I wouldn't know half of what I know now. Although half of nothing is still nothing I guess!

im0rtalz said:
I feel that users who jumped onto the dev thread grabbing 2nd 3rd 4th post etc just for fun of it. It would be so nice if you did not grab those post and leave it to the dev or since you do have it, try to do something proactive and post relevant updates/status/bugs. Simple questions & answers. I remember on the miui.us forum Just_S did an amazing job on tackling this even before he was promoted to moderator.
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I completely agree with this. If you take a 1st page post, do something constructive with it. Have your jokes and whatnot at first, but go back and add some value to it.
That's a great way to help the devs keep info and Q & A updated.
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I hate stupid questions ..
Like "are you going to rape me?"
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iSaint said:
I hate stupid questions ..
Like "are you going to rape me?"
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If i flash ics, will it taste like an ics?

Ascertion said:
If i flash ics, will it taste like an ics?
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the snozberries taste like snozberries

I don't mind people asking repetitive questions unless the answer is on the same page or in the op.
The "give me" generation doesn't seem to understand the ...give/teach a man to fish analogy
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Overstew said:
Personally, I enjoy the questions posted in my theme threads. I wouldn't ever make a discussion thread because I find it pointless. If people want to post something positive or constructive criticism in my thread, be my quest. I'm all open for ideas and opinions. I always have my own personal variants anyways.
I can understand people being unappreciative, and that can become frustrating. The devs just gotta realize that there are people like that EVERYWHERE and shouldn't let it bother them.
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I actually agree with Overstew wholeheartedly here. What was referred to in the op was a comment I made in another thread when asked about the discussion thread I had. I'm sure my frustration showed through in my comments but that doesn't mean I want to quit or even really blast people. I wanted to use the rom thread as an actual problems thread and the discussion thread as "I love this rom" "I hate this rom" etc. So I wouldn't have to read through 30 pages of this and that to find issues.
As Overstew said and I feel the same way I enjoy the questions and I DO appreciate the feedback. Because I ACTUALLY do use the feedback good or bad to make tweaks or changes in regard to users as a whole. In hindsight its obvious the 2 thread roms are probably not a good idea. And I'll probably stop it.
Having said all that I want everyone here on the ET4G forum to know that you all have been great to me and in know way do I plan on leaving or getting so pissed off that I quit you guys. On the contrary, I appreciate all of you, and plan to be on the ET4G for the forseeable future trying to make our great phone even better... in addition please remember that we developers are human too and sometimes we may come across as being snippy or disrespectful. But in actuality we probably are having a bad day or something is not going well. Its not personal and we also try not to take things to personal. I think for those of you who know me I try to be as helpful and polite as I can be and represent XDA in the manner I would like to be treated as. And I was new once, and I haven't forgotten what it felt like to be lost or need help...
Sorry got carried away... so I'll end here by saying we have a great community here and it's because if YOU!!!

VeNuM said:
I actually agree with Overstew wholeheartedly here. What was referred to in the op was a comment I made in another thread when asked about the discussion thread I had. I'm sure my frustration showed through in my comments but that doesn't mean I want to quit or even really blast people. I wanted to use the rom thread as an actual problems thread and the discussion thread as "I love this rom" "I hate this rom" etc. So I wouldn't have to read through 30 pages of this and that to find issues.
As Overstew said and I feel the same way I enjoy the questions and I DO appreciate the feedback. Because I ACTUALLY do use the feedback good or bad to make tweaks or changes in regard to users as a whole. In hindsight its obvious the 2 thread roms are probably not a good idea. And I'll probably stop it.
Having said all that I want everyone here on the ET4G forum to know that you all have been great to me and in know way do I plan on leaving or getting so pissed off that I quit you guys. On the contrary, I appreciate all of you, and plan to be on the ET4G for the forseeable future trying to make our great phone even better... in addition please remember that we developers are human too and sometimes we may come across as being snippy or disrespectful. But in actuality we probably are having a bad day or something is not going well. Its not personal and we also try not to take things to personal. I think for those of you who know me I try to be as helpful and polite as I can be and represent XDA in the manner I would like to be treated as. And I was new once, and I haven't forgotten what it felt like to be lost or need help...
Sorry got carried away... so I'll end here by saying we have a great community here and it's because if YOU!!!
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Venum our community wouldn't be the same without you. Thank you for all you do and I'm glad you have the persistence to put up with us.
I've enjoyed every one of your ROMs that I've run and still hold Anakonda up as one of my very favorites.
You and your team (including that crazy themer dude ) are one of the main reasons I'll be hanging onto my phone for the foreseeable future regardless what phone comes out next.
In short terms, you guys rock!

It does look like the two thread idea is not working as well as others would expect but you must admit its a great idea. Honestly xda is for developers to show off their stuff and for us to leech or not to leech. You would assume that we should be able to follow directions. Lets be honest a developer using his free time to make your product better has asked you too simply only post problems in his thread to make it better for you and easier for him to figure out what needs to be fixed. Ask yourself is that really that hard to do.
A developer takes his time to create a beautiful OP to answer all your questions and lets you know exactly what to do to achieve greatness on your phone. Are the directions really that difficult. At what point to we let common sense jump in and go hey before I post this let me think for a sec.....
Rom posted 5:45 post at 6:00 "Hows battery life" - Seriously
Op says camera does not work post will say "Camera is buggy rom sucks" - Why
Sorry I get it why developers get angry and I understand you want people to move on but really with all that's out there to help just take a sec and use your brain...
Remember its called xda DEVELOPERS

I believe it's just fickle times right now in the e4gt forum. Only dedicated xda users know to read thoroughly before jumping in. More and more people join the Android community and a lot more of those people are migrating to custom development. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but currently you have to 'lift your right leg, whirl your finger counter-clockwise, and sing the National Anthem backwards' just to simply flash anything. While most of us are fairly coordinated, myself included , the rest of the community just want to sit back and enjoy the music. In due time, we will all settle back in again and the user that doesn't read will not have to ask any questions, cause it will go smoothly the first time. Patience is key right now. It will get better.
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Venum our community wouldn't be the same without you. Thank you for all you do and I'm glad you have the persistence to put up with us.
I've enjoyed every one of your ROMs that I've run and still hold Anakonda up as one of my very favorites.
You and your team (including that crazy themer dude ) are one of the main reasons I'll be hanging onto my phone for the foreseeable future regardless what phone comes out next.
In short terms, you guys rock!
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Can't believe you called rounsy a crazy themer dude.. Lol
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Please Make a Poll about ROMS, and let people vote..

I am not a pro user of these forums, but I would like someone, especially the Mods to make a thread about most popular roms of DHD and let people vote.. It would give one an idea of what rom is trending and what is the most widely used.. Sure would help ignite the competition too ..
If any such thread already exists on this forum, please tell me...

You can do it yourself...and you might be the first one to do so (i havent searched to see if there is one out there already...)

It is not done do the fact we are all tired of hearing the same question over and over again what's the best rom what's a solid stable rom and they all get closed. Each rom works different for everyone. What's good to one is utter crap to another and your topic will only start a flaming war hence the reason why such threads are closed. Only you can tell what's good for you by trying a few out or reading comments on the devs threads. Hmm I think I hear zels footsteps.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
It is not done do the fact we are all tired of hearing the same question over and over again what's the best rom what's a solid stable rom and they all get closed. Each rom works different for everyone. What's good to one is utter crap to another and your topic will only start a flaming war hence the reason why such threads are closed. Only you can tell what's good for you by trying a few out or reading comments on the devs threads. Hmm I think I hear zels footsteps.
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Might be nice to centralize it though. No comments, just a pure poll. (Not sure if there's a way to do that.) It might cut down on the one-post immediately-closed "which is the best ROM" threads.

A poll with no comments may work.
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Well there is something similar. Its not a poll.. but it gives a pretty decent breakdown on the roms currently available broken down into categories Jellybean, ICS, GB etc. It might help out?
>>> Development List <<<

fallenkirmit said:
Well there is something similar. Its not a poll.. but it gives a pretty decent breakdown on the roms currently available broken down into categories Jellybean, ICS, GB etc. It might help out?
>>> Development List <<<
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Yeah, I know about that, but I see a lot of threads opened that basically ask "I'm new, what is the most popular/best/favorite ROM?" The index gives a good list of available ROMs, but it doesn't shed a lot of light on how many people use each one, which seems to be what newbies would like to know (to help them decide which to install). Maybe a poll would cut down on such threads. I've PMed a mod to see if such a poll would be well-received.

salman1497 said:
I am not a pro user of these forums, but I would like someone, especially the Mods to make a thread about most popular roms of DHD and let people vote.. It would give one an idea of what rom is trending and what is the most widely used.. Sure would help ignite the competition too ..
If any such thread already exists on this forum, please tell me...
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I completely disagree, bcoz u can't compare all the efforts of devs. Every single piece of their work is truly admirable. Whatever they have done is absolutely priceless.
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I didn't mean that devs work isn't priceless, of course that is commendable!! And its not strict comparing either.. I just meant that one should have idea about new trending romS and also how many people are using which rom.... I know one rom may be excellent for someone and crap for another, have probably flashed more than 100 roms myself. I am just taking about the current trend of roms
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I agree with a poll with no comments, just a simple poll with rom names allowing members to state what they are using, we don't need to know their reasons why.
One thing I don't always understand is people read threads, see what features the rom has but still want other people to tell them.... Just install it and have a look yourself! Most common case I've seen is in the Sabsa Prime thread as it's what I use, people ask for updates and then when one comes along, they ask people to try it out and report back if it's worth updating. Grrrrr!! It's your phone, you want the updates so try it out and see if it suits YOU. Simples.
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I see a lot of talk, but no one stepping in to start a poll? You guys do realize anyone can start poll as a part of the thread!!

ai6908 said:
I see a lot of talk, but no one stepping in to start a poll? You guys do realize anyone can start poll as a part of the thread!!
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I have PMed the mods (since they would need to lock comments) a couple times. No response yet.

The mods say that locking a thread while leaving the poll open is not possible.

bananagranola said:
The mods say that locking a thread while leaving the poll open is not possible.
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I saw your PM yesterday and had been giving it some thought. It looks like my co-moderator has contacted you already and let you know that the system will lock the poll as part of closing thread. Even if it was possible to separate the two, I'd be inclined to close down polls like the one you suggest. While some of you might think a poll like this a good idea, it smells a bit too much like a popularity contest.
Some of you may already know that many moderators in other forums have a wholesale ban on "Best ROM" threads. This is because a lot of these threads tend to be a breeding ground for rivalries and disrespecting others' work that can degenerate into infighting and other nastiness. I don't want to be heavy-handed on this topic because I see some benefit to discussions that compare/contrast ROMs and kernels IF they are done objectively and with respect for others. The last part of this is the most important here.
You might have already seen comments that say, "there is no best, try it and see what you like" and that's true. We all have different needs and likes, so there can be no best, but some sharing of knowledge and experiences with various ROMs can be helpful to others. Again, all of this needs to be done objectively and with respect for others. There's already a thread in General with many opinions and nobody's been really causing any trouble there, so I suggest all of you continue those discussions there. Please... no "best" polls.
I'm sorry to threadjack this from the OP, but since the idea has been shot down, I welcome your thoughts on the matter. If you don't want to air it out publicly, my PM box is always open.

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Thanks for explaining. I just thought that a more centralized and easy-to-read format would help newbies who are confused when they first see that (seemingly endless) list of ROM threads that is so appealing to those of us who've been around a little longer. But I respect your position and it makes sense. Also, without the comment-locked-forum option, I agree that these types of threads do tend to degenerate.