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[Q] What does "Dodexed" mean?

Okay I rooted my EVO about a week or so ago and Im running the Frost ROM... I like it but I would like to check out some other ROMs and what kind of addons or MODs that are available... I keep running across the term "dodexed" and "odexed"(?) i think is what it was...Can some one please explain to me what that means...
Also what is the differance in Sense and non sense ROMs... What is aosp??
Any clairification would be helpful...
Thanks

Dude you have over one hundred posts. And they're all questions about this and that. Are you aware of the fact that there is a search bar for these forums. I have seen this question asked a lot of times. Hell I even wondered but I searched before starting a thread about it.
Dude, put in the effort and do the work. Only good things will come from doing a little research.
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this link explains it all...
http://tinyurl.com/27q5ml8

haha deathsled beat me to it. seriously though... i believe (not sure) that this is correct.
dont quote me on it. correct me if i'm wrong.
so each apk has a matching .odex file that contains stuff for it. if you flash a theme a theme (altering framework-res.apk or other app) then the odex and apk dont match and you get system failiure. so odexed roms are unthemeable. i think thats about right. google it (thanks deathsled)

ahhh got it. google is friend. posted by berzerker
Originally Posted by Berzerker
De-odex: Apk files have respective odexes that devs use to supposedly save space. Deodexing means you convert it back to a .dex file and put it back inside the apk. This allows you to easily replace files (not having to worry about odexes), but the main point was to deodex services.jar so that you can change all text to different colors (such as the clock color to white) and to deodex services.jar, you need to deodex everything.
so baisically odex is compressed more and deodexed allows for themeing.

caguirr4 said:
Dude you have over one hundred posts. And they're all questions about this and that. Are you aware of the fact that there is a search bar for these forums. I have seen this question asked a lot of times. Hell I even wondered but I searched before starting a thread about it.
Dude, put in the effort and do the work. Only good things will come from doing a little research.
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Wow, I was on my phone while at work...sorry if I thought some of the community would be nice enough to help me out instead of spending more time searching for the answers myself on the the XDA app, which I did didnt have anything come up...
The whole purpose of these forums is "Community support"...stop trying to be the forum police and try helping... besides I wasnt even talking to you...

No one wants to help someone who cant help themselves.
Try harder before posting next time please.

JayStation3 said:
Wow, I was on my phone while at work...sorry if I thought some of the community would be nice enough to help me out instead of spending more time searching for the answers myself on the the XDA app, which I did didnt have anything come up...
The whole purpose of these forums is "Community support"...stop trying to be the forum police and try helping... besides I wasnt even talking to you...
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You were talking to me. You posted a question in a public forum for the community to see. I answered because it is ridiculous to start a new thread for a question asked several times. But oh well you got your answer.
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I hate to be the guy to join in on the ragging, but as you can see, I do not have many posts, yet a few days back I was able to find the answer to the very same question you just asked, by searching for it.

SterlingGorilla said:
I hate to be the guy to join in on the ragging, but as you can see, I do not have many posts, yet a few days back I was able to find the answer to the very same question you just asked, by searching for it.
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And as I stated I would have searched it if I was at a computer... I was not so it was easier for me to just post a question... Sorry to inconvience y'all.... :/

JayStation3 said:
And as I stated I would have searched it if I was at a computer... I was not so it was easier for me to just post a question... Sorry to inconvience y'all.... :/
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were on your Evo right? There's a search button on the bottom right.....

Seems like this kind of thing is all to common in the open source scene. Same type response was given on email lists when someone asked for help back in the 90s when trying to stuff linux on an old 386 box for the s&gs. Open source is teh 1337z!!!1! But you can get help for windows sans the ass chewing. I have never understood that.
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i wouldn't sweat it, but you could probably have found that on your phone browser while not optimal. Also, you have to contend with folks that were born with all the knowledge in the world and go out of their ways to be douche bags instead of helping, welcome to XDA!!
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And as I stated I would have searched it if I was at a computer... I was not so it was easier for me to just post a question... Sorry to inconvience y'all.... :/
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Another stellar post from a macbot, wouldn't expect anything less. I guess all the folks at starbucks got a great laugh on that
deathsled said:
this link explains it all...
http://tinyurl.com/27q5ml8
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deathsled said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were on your Evo right? There's a search button on the bottom right.....
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All the flaming doesn't bother me, I can play this game all day long! I have done more than enough searching to be immune to this kind of treatment... I had a million questions in the begining and I only posted a few specific questions... and even though one can search the forums for an answer to a specific problem, more than some ppl here on XDA can't explain things clearly enough to be of any help to any one - skipping steps and being vague doesn't really help any one but yourself to raise your post count. Needless to say, most threads are useless... they 'cause more confusion than solutions. I'll keep doing what I want and you can keep flaming me 'cause you are better than me & I need a laugh every now and then...

JayStation3 said:
All the flaming doesn't bother me, I can play this game all day long! I have done more than enough searching to be immune to this kind of treatment... I had a million questions in the begining and I only posted a few specific questions... and even though one can search the forums for an answer to a specific problem, more than some ppl here on XDA can't explain things clearly enough to be of any help to any one - skipping steps and being vague doesn't really help any one but yourself to raise your post count. Needless to say, most threads are useless... they 'cause more confusion than solutions. I'll keep doing what I want and you can keep flaming me 'cause you are better than me & I need a laugh every now and then...
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try asking on the irc. very helpful and knowledgable people there.

Does anybody freaking read or search before asking all these questions???

I consider myself a noob, I'm definitely far from even being considered a dev, and I can answer half of the questions I see on this forum from RESEARCH I've done scouting around the forums and actually reading the threads. Did anybody read the sticky about before you post??? Just sayin' come on ppl, I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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isnt that a part of research?

While some days I would be inclined to agree with you...
Two things come to mind:
Isn't this post a contribution to garbage posts? Really? Yet another post that I, and everyone has to "skim through" before finding the answer we are looking for?
Lighten the f*ck up. Talk about a first world problem.
Like you've never had a hard time figuring out a new forum/technology/device/community, needed basic help, been a noob. Like we ALL have. Give the noobs some help, a kind suggestion where to get an answer, an Example of how they might have used search to find the answer, perhaps a quick Constructive response on proper forum etiquette and good form.
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kingdazy said:
While some days I would be inclined to agree with you...
Two things come to mind:
Isn't this post a contribution to garbage posts? Really? Yet another post that I, and everyone has to "skim through" before finding the answer we are looking for?
Lighten the f*ck up. Talk about a first world problem.
Like you've never had a hard time figuring out a new forum/technology/device/community, needed basic help, been a noob. Like we ALL have. Give the noobs some help, a kind suggestion where to get an answer, an Example of how they might have used search to find the answer, perhaps a quick Constructive response on proper forum etiquette and good form.
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Cannot agree with you more people should stop wasting their time saying "look it up" and use that time to actually help the noobs

kingdazy;23476469
Isn't this post a contribution to garbage posts? [/QUOTE said:
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ahoyt05 said:
I consider myself a noob, I'm definitely far from even being considered a dev, and I can answer half of the questions I see on this forum from RESEARCH I've done scouting around the forums and actually reading the threads. Did anybody read the sticky about before you post??? Just sayin' come on ppl, I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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If you had used search, you'd have seen that this thread already exists. A lot.

juanshashko said:
If you had used search, you'd have seen that this thread already exists. A lot.
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If you've ever used search, you understand why no one uses search....

ahoyt05 said:
I consider myself a noob, I'm definitely far from even being considered a dev, and I can answer half of the questions I see on this forum from RESEARCH I've done scouting around the forums and actually reading the threads. Did anybody read the sticky about before you post??? Just sayin' come on ppl, I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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WE have a thanks button on here but wheres the DISLIKE button for me people like this...
Like everyone else has said already if you would actually do all the searching you say you do then you would have answered your own question since what you posted has been posted/said/stated many times already. This board is meant for people to help each other out in one way or another not for A$$es like you to try to bash or say dumb things to people that are barely learning.

Points taken and true
Guess I just had to blow off some steam, I was looking for a particular thread that had some answers in it that I needed and was getting frustrated, and yes I was using the search.
I do try to help where/when I can. I was going to quote everybody but if ppl read the thread they'll see that I'm replying to everyone who posted besides myself. I'm going to go get a cup of coffee to enjoy with my humble pie now....
I tried to thank all who posted but I think I reached my limit so...Thanks

I realize this may not appease yours (or others) frustration, but sometimes people ask again because other threads pertaining to the same subject have become so huge it would take hours to search for the answer. I work full time, actually right now I work full time and a half and while I do my best to seek out existing answers I will, at times, just ask and take a chance that someone will be helpful enough to answer rather than saying "just search".
If you've ever worked in tech support then you'd understand that part of the 'job' is repetition, answering the same question, giving the same advice, over and over and over again.
Yes I agree it's good for people to look around, read up on what's out there but when threads become full of back and forth chit chat (which I tend to enjoy reading lol) it makes it harder to find the answer you are looking for, especially if you are on limited time.

Esoteric68 said:
I realize this may not appease yours (or others) frustration, but sometimes people ask again because other threads pertaining to the same subject have become so huge it would take hours to search for the answer. I work full time, actually right now I work full time and a half and while I do my best to seek out existing answers I will, at times, just ask and take a chance that someone will be helpful enough to answer rather than saying "just search".
If you've ever worked in tech support then you'd understand that part of the 'job' is repetition, answering the same question, giving the same advice, over and over and over again.
Yes I agree it's good for people to look around, read up on what's out there but when threads become full of back and forth chit chat (which I tend to enjoy reading lol) it makes it harder to find the answer you are looking for, especially if you are on limited time.
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Actually I generally like the back and forth also, I was using the search and couldn't tell you how many results I got, then trying o filter through them all...UGH!!! I went back to it after my little rant and eventually found what I was looking for, but again...UGH!!!
Never worked in tech. support and don't want to, though one warehouse I worked at I did become the "IT" guy everybody came to before they actually put in a help ticket.
I'm self taught through the help menus and forums in all things tech that I do so I've spent countless hours on my laptop or phone at some truck stop in BFE with a crappy wifi signal that I have to pay by the hour for or very slow data connections trying to figure things out or get some fix/rom/mod/program downloaded. Or just waiting for pages to load so I can read to find out if there's an answer there for me.
and again the humble pie was deserved and probably needed, everyone should have some on occasion, I'm not above admitting that I was wrong.

orb360 said:
If you've ever used search, you understand why no one uses search....
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Exactly!!! LOL! Especially when using the Tapatalk or Xda app.
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This is my kind of subject.... Guys you do know that you can use Google to find stuff on xda. Put your search words in with xda at the end. Just because your a noob here does that mean you have to be a noob in regards to searching the web. How did you find xda how did you find epic touch thread...? No problem helping others who want to help themselves. I know a lot of you say just keep answering the same question but really trying and help yourself....
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If you had used search, you'd have seen that this thread already exists. A lot.
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Google is your friend. I have learned how to theme decompile fix XML files and a host of other things by using Google. So much info on the web its not funny...
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playya said:
Google is your friend. I have learned how to theme decompile fix XML files and a host of other things by using Google. So much info on the web its not funny...
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Couldn't agree more, that's how I learned most of what I know.
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ahoyt05 said:
Couldn't agree more, that's how I learned most of what I know.
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Me too. I agree with your and playaas posts. It get old seeing the same questions asked all the time.
If anyone needs any help with the epic touch hit me up on Gtalk @musclehead84

Helping Others

Just a message to say, that at one POINT we all were noobs at one time, what’s the since of these forums if you can’t find help here? Hell, some of the noobs (including me) may have went thru something that the old timers haven’t been thru, so I see it as any problem is good info to someone. I went thru this power struggle back in the BBS days…arg, I helped crack games and progs, ie INC and Razor911, and so on, and there were a bunch of hot heads with attitudes. I for one cherish the forums for info. But I continuously see people slam others for their lack of knowledge. Others need to realize that a problem to someone is a fix to another. MY OPINION ONLY! Should be a thread for one thing only, IF YOU BRICKED YOUR PHONE, post it here, with what and how, that will answer most of these questions, so the more experienced users can either shine or move along.

TheAxman said:
Just a message to say, that at one POINT we all were noobs at one time, what’s the since of these forums if you can’t find help here? Hell, some of the noobs (including me) may have went thru something that the old timers haven’t been thru, so I see it as any problem is good info to someone. I went thru this power struggle back in the BBS days…arg, I helped crack games and progs, ie INC and Razor911, and so on, and there were a bunch of hot heads with attitudes. I for one cherish the forums for info. But I continuously see people slam others for their lack of knowledge. Others need to realize that a problem to someone is a fix to another. MY OPINION ONLY! Should be a thread for one thing only, IF YOU BRICKED YOUR PHONE, post it here, with what and how, that will answer most of these questions, so the more experienced users can either shine or move along.
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Im the same way. I always will try to answer a question if i have a clue about it. I have gotten slammed before too just for asking questions but oh well. Every one is different, we aren't all the same.

Its a double side sword man I wouldn't flame someone but unfortunately some other people refuse to help themselves. They want answers spoon fed to them I try to search as much as I can before posting a problem and if there is a thread related to it I ask there first as well. Then you also have people posting in dev sections for request and questions because they will get more people to view their threads.
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ebatr8 said:
Its a double side sword man I wouldn't flame someone but unfortunately some other people refuse to help themselves. They want answers spoon fed to them I try to search as much as I can before posting a problem and if there is a thread related to it I ask there first as well. Then you also have people posting in dev sections for request and questions because they will get more people to view their threads.
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Half the people who get flamed dont read threads dont read how to flash or root phones properly then when they screw up they want their hand held and someone to coddle them and say its ok, waste of time tbh

Crisis - FYI if you are the second person to post in a forum thread there is absolutely no reason to quote the whole first post.

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Crisis - FYI if you are the second person to post in a forum thread there is absolutely no reason to quote the whole first post.
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Got em again coach! Lol
This has and will always be a picky subject. Can't win em all but if you know the knowledge just lead them the right way.
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chrisram88 said:
Got em again coach! Lol
This has and will always be a picky subject. Can't win em all but if you know the knowledge just lead them the right way.
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All the knowledge is already here, people just want others to find it for them and that's when the dookie hits the fan. Most users lurked and learned before even making accounts or pointless threads. I have been here since Cyanogen put out his 1st mod for the G1 and didn't make an account til a year after I had learned how to follow directions and search for answers.

ebatr8 said:
Its a double side sword man I wouldn't flame someone but unfortunately some other people refuse to help themselves. They want answers spoon fed to them I try to search as much as I can before posting a problem and if there is a thread related to it I ask there first as well. Then you also have people posting in dev sections for request and questions because they will get more people to view their threads.
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I agree, but you can tell the non-readers, like you said posting in the wrong forum would be one of them, but I saw a guy get ripped for asking a simple question about what mods work with what...just rubbed me the wrong way.

KillaHurtz said:
All the knowledge is already here, people just want others to find it for them and that's when the dookie hits the fan. Most users lurked and learned before even making accounts or pointless threads. I have been here since Cyanogen put out his 1st mod for the G1 and didn't make an account til a year after I had learned how to follow directions and search for answers.
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Agreed. I did not want to start a war, but the reply the guy got was a bunch of shi*** and were long posts about not the problem, but how he was a noob. If the person wants to rag another, don't write a 100 word post on the issue of noob, or don't post at all.

KillaHurtz said:
All the knowledge is already here, people just want others to find it for them and that's when the dookie hits the fan. Most users lurked and learned before even making accounts or pointless threads. I have been here since Cyanogen put out his 1st mod for the G1 and didn't make an account til a year after I had learned how to follow directions and search for answers.
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A great example of this is the G2x forums... The noobish questions are one after another. Same dam questing anx that's why people get irritated.
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For me personally I don't mind the flaming for the people that do stupid crap lol. Then again I also come from clubrsx which is a car forum with much more grown up people. Usually stupid questions there and noobs who do stupid things are met with incredibly funny and harsh flaming lol . On a more serious note we will always have flaming and always have silly threads because we just will noobs will never read or try to be self sufficient no matter how big the bold letters might be telling them to. I do commend the people that search first and do try to find there own answers before asking for help I've had some users pm me asking for help with stuff I totally don't mind helping someone out but I'm use to everyone I know asking me to help root and mod their phones.
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ebatr8 said:
On a more serious note we will always have flaming and always have silly threads because we just will noobs will never read or try to be self sufficient no matter how big the bold letters might be telling them to. I do commend the people that search first and do try to find there own answers before asking for help I've had some users pm me asking for help with stuff I totally don't mind helping someone out but I'm use to everyone I know asking me to help root and mod their phones.
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well if I see that they have 1 or so post, I see them at first legit questions, then, see them again post somewhere else asking stupid questions again, that would be considered to be those lazy as*** that you guys are referring to, humm, you guys have been here a long time, and seen alot, so I will keep the crap to myself. Sorry guys for bringing it up.

A proposal for the XDA community to consider.

I'll get straight to the point.
The nature of our Development Forums on XDA have changed dramatically since the G1 days and unfortunatly its a change for the worst, its hitting in my opinion rock bottom with less and less people willing to contribute. Back when Android was born and XDA opened its doors to us G1 users we were all there for one reason. To LEARN!
The thirst for knowledge and understanding was exciting and thrilling, being the first to discover something new and letting it be free and available to all who wanted, to strive to break down the barriers that our providers put before us and set us all free! It was to be a complete geek and openly honest a complete rush for me and all of us.
Just writing about it sends a shiver down my spine I so enjoyed it all back then. But todays culture seems to be one of spoon feeding information to people who have no idea what they actually have in there hands, and to be frank would look at me cross eyed if I told them to use terminal emulator to enter a command! Now dont get me wrong I'm no linux expert I'm not even a beginner but I took time to learn terminal commands for Android to help further our community by not asking dumb questions and knowing what a search engine was!
So for my proposal and discussion as a community is.....
Should we allow the developers to HAVE the Developement forums?
We currently have General forums with support threads so basically if your not a developer you simply can't post in there. Lets give the devs somewhere they can talk with other devs and concentrate solely on development and not reading 15,000,000 pages of posts like 'The rom didn't work its rubbish' and replying back to all these people to try and gain some peace to work.
Well I have had my say and I look forward to some serious intelligent debate on this.

How exactly do you differentiate between a dev and non-dev? Also, there are plenty of non-dev users who find valuable info for the people doing the actual dev work.

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How exactly do you differentiate between a dev and non-dev? Also, there are plenty of non-dev users who find valuable info for the people doing the actual dev work.
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Easy. Can you build a rom? Do you know your arse from your elbow? And have you heard of google?
If you answer Yes to all three you're probably a dev.
No seriously you are perfectly correct and I understand what you are saying but again why couldn't we have that same discussion/help/suggestion here? Its basically the same and the devs can check in whenever they like as they already have to in their development threads now. We have help threads here that are basically unused because they are cluttering up the devs thread instead. We need to look at encouranging devs to stay and this to me gives them that and a lot more would be achieved I feel.

Perhaps a way for devs to have a open or closed thread.
Like asylum rom. There is discussion thread and a development thread.
Maybe an option to allow only recognised developers or senior members in a thread.
I agree junior members (noobs) are a pain in the ass.
I tought myself mostly by reading threads and figuring things out.... Why can't they? I don't know... I try to play nice though sometimes the stupidity bassles me.
A blacklist option or a "kick ban from thread" option for the dev. If someone is anoying to other members or just clutters the thread this would be a nice implementation for a dev.
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Don't see this being implemented anytime soon. Thread will probably be closed as well. Sad but true. People will always ask assisine questions that can be solved by searching or wiping.
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adolfo778 said:
Don't see this being implemented anytime soon. Thread will probably be closed as well. Sad but true. People will always ask assisine questions that can be solved by searching or wiping.
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God knows I understand that but again why not let this be the forum to ask them in?

I'm no dev. I'm far from it. But I can totally agree with what you say about it being different from the g1 days. I too get a little... Choked up...
I didn't even know what adb ment, let alone how to work it. Took me hours just to figure out and set up.
After rooting and handling updates for all my buddies phones plus my own... I'm a little more comfy. But I can't build a ROM.
There definatley a problem with people not reading. I mean... "Does cam work on this ROM?" Its answered on every page. I've seen it answered 3 posts before the question was asked.
Xda-Etiquette got lost somewhere along the way. Some things are too advanced for new android users. If it was, I didn't touch. New members don't think like that.
Read read read. Post in general or q&a. Don't clutter up dev threads with "thanks" and "help... I brick!".
Learn what a brick is. Lol.You don't have to be the first with s-off when you don't even know what it means. Wait til it becomes easier. Don't lose a device cuz you want to be on the cutting edge but don't even know what fastboot means.
Bs in the other topics. When you click that "android development" button, keep your mouth shut and read. Nothing most of the xda users, myself included, can say would be productive and helpful to devs.
And to end... I still <3 xda.
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DisruptiveMind said:
God knows I understand that but again why not let this be the forum to ask them in?
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Xda has gotten a lot more traffic Since the g1 days so noob questions are expected. I imagine if the mods were to implement your idea. Alot of those threads and members would be left with unanswered questions, plus you don't have to read the 500 pages in each thread just the OP we read through the pages to pass time
And most devs already talk to each other via iirc and gtalk and popular ROMs such as venom have there own forums. The difference is xda gets more traffic. More traffic = more downloads. Plus what fun is it if all the threads are serious, and devs dont get to bag on noobs
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adolfo778 said:
Xda has gotten a lot more traffic Since the g1 days so noob questions are expected. I imagine if the mods were to implement your idea. Alot of those threads and members would be left with unanswered questions, plus you don't have to read the 500 pages in each thread just the OP we read through the pages to pass time
And most devs already talk to each other via iirc and gtalk and popular ROMs such as venom have there own forums. The difference is xda gets more traffic. More traffic = more downloads. Plus what fun is it if all the threads are serious, and devs dont get to bag on noobs
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Once again they can! They just do it in here instead when the devs need a laugh. All help and dumb questions can be answered here in the General Forum meaning people would actually be more likely to read at least something of the first post in the Development Forum because its not as daunting knowing there is another 100 pages of posts to read following it.

Did you remember to fastboot flash the boot.img?

Thx for this thread, it always helps to discuss issues if they occur. In any case there is no need for closed dev threads @ XDA, since this would lead to believe we are only developing for our own pleasure. Reality is we all enjoy to push the envelope and share it with other guys in the forum. We all need and want feedback, so it`s not a problem XDA can solve.
All we can do is try to educate users, that we are happy to help them as long as they try to search for answers first either in the thread, on XDA or Google. Users in dev thread need also understand the following:
All custom ROM`s have bugs (so do stock ROM`s)
Not all these bugs are ROM related, in many cases the problem sits in front of the device.
If it`s a real bug, just report it, but don`t be demanding. Most of us just publish stuff here for pure pleasure of sharing and cause we are proud, that we could enhance the user experience with new features.
Users really need to understand, that we don`t have an obligation to update stuff in a certain time frame. We do that in our free time and it`s just a hobby.
Users should especially behave in a friendly manner and be respectful with everyone in the threads.
So bottom line - don`t expect XDA to solve the issues, we as a community must learn to respect each other and understand there`s more important stuff in life then a phone.
Edit: Maybe except the new ONE :laugh::angel::silly:

Well again I find myself saying all that can be done here, I never once said I wanted the Development thread closing or to create a nature of 'building for themselves' we could all still have access and well would need it to download roms so I don't understand where you are coming from on that point. Why do we have a support thread in General if the support is offered in the roms thread?
And to be honest as we need to be I have seen you yourself getting annoyed by the questions that pop up time and time again as has many other devs leading to yet more and more posts about ego wars and the tiredness of answering the same thing again and again and again. Simply let that stuff stay in here otherwise not only is General but Q&A forums seem to be somewhat pointless as no matter how hard you try being nice about it users will never learn. A place where real Developers can go and know the community takes care of the 'silly' stuff, as a developer yourself I would assume you would appreciate not having to spend so much time reading all the pointless posts that appear. You say rightly that you do this as a hobby and in your free time so wouldn't it be better if you knew you had somewhere to get away from it so to speak and spend that time doing work on your rom/s?

The stupid questions are just plain laziness. I'm basically a noob, this is my first android phone and I just got it last October. I can't remember even asking any questions, maybe as couple, literally. I'm usually the one helping out people who have been using android longer than me. In October, I remember having to look up what a kernel even was. Lol. So, yeah, people just have you seriously just read more, but don't just follow steps, try to understand what you are actually doing. Just following steps, you won't learn nothing.
HTC_One_S | Xparent_ICS_Blue_Tapatalk 1.06_Hboot_Downgrade | Root_Box | Bubba_Kernel_2.8b | S-OFF

I don't think things will ever change. There are always going to be lazy, entitled noobs who want to be spoon fed. Changing that I think would be a losing battle. I'm not saying we should encourage them, but fighting and flaming simply won't ever change things. I think we should simply continue helping those who've shown they have no problem making the effort to help themselves and ignore the ones who want everything handed to them.

'noob' unfriendly forum!

Ha, yes-it really is!! I love xda, find lots of great stuff, I buy the apps, blah, blah.. I even tried to comment(no reply). How many 'dislikes noobs' do I see lol!! I'm not hideously noobie & we all start somewhere right?! Kind of off putting to be honest..not really fair to those of us that like using the site-I wonder how many questions go unanswered..
Just my little rant.. disgruntled, female(aaargh!), noob..xx

Hehehehe..
If someone says he dislikes noobs. it is his personal opinion not of xda...
We at xda focus on helping everyone who needs it. (I too need help as m nt a developer)
So if some of the questions go unanswered ..belive the fact that either no one knows it or the one who knows it havent seen it yet
I know one of the member who was very rude ... bt he helped others alot (scolding them alongside to search first )

lol!
doctor_droid said:
Hehehehe..
If someone says he dislikes noobs. it is his personal opinion not of xda...
We at xda focus on helping everyone who needs it. (I too need help as m nt a developer)
So if some of the questions go unanswered ..belive the fact that either no one knows it or the one who knows it havent seen it yet
I know one of the member who was very rude ... bt he helped others alot (scolding them alongside to search first )
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Thanks, was venting-just being female!! Onwards & upwards!:laugh:

Hi xeexe,
As doctor_droid mentioned, sometimes questions can go unanswered purely because others don't know the answer OR it was buried in the forum too quickly and therefore more people, who may have been able to help, wouldn't have seen your thread.
Just like any other situation, whether it be on an internet forum or in real life, there'll always be those who are helpful and those who will ignore/moan at you asking a question. That's natural but there's generally more people around ready to help than there are to dislike you. Don't let it put you off though as this forum has a great community and you can learn a ton of new stuff from here aswell.
By the way, if you're still having the same issue with your phone I suggest editing your thread again so that the question is posted and then bump your thread up so that people will be able to see it at the top of the forum again

KidCarter93 said:
Hi xeexe,
As doctor_droid mentioned, sometimes questions can go unanswered purely because others don't know the answer OR it was buried in the forum too quickly and therefore more people, who may have been able to help, wouldn't have seen your thread.
Just like any other situation, whether it be on an internet forum or in real life, there'll always be those who are helpful and those who will ignore/moan at you asking a question. That's natural but there's generally more people around ready to help than there are to dislike you. Don't let it put you off though as this forum has a great community and you can learn a ton of new stuff from here aswell.
By the way, if you're still having the same issue with your phone I suggest editing your thread again so that the question is posted and then bump your thread up so that people will be able to see it at the top of the forum again
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Thank you I ended up sorting out my 'issue' anyway but then you need to ask to have a post removed, do you? And could you?! My previous post-had an issue flashing roms but it's okay, I was being a noob, lol!
Yeah, I won't let it put me off, love the site-just over-sensitive I guess

xeexe said:
Thank you I ended up sorting out my 'issue' anyway but then you need to ask to have a post removed, do you? And could you?! My previous post-had an issue flashing roms but it's okay, I was being a noob, lol!
Yeah, I won't let it put me off, love the site-just over-sensitive I guess
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In most cases threads won't actually be deleted but as the issue is resolved abd had no replies anyway, just report it by using the orange triangle on that post and ask for it to be deleted due to the above reasons

KidCarter93 said:
In most cases threads won't actually be deleted but as the issue is resolved abd had no replies anyway, just report it by using the orange triangle on that post and ask for it to be deleted due to the above reasons
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Thanks

Okay, so since we have things resolved I'm making a noob friendly closure of this thread