Hi, AT&T has horrible coverage in WA so I am stuck on T-Mobile (or Verizon, but I don't fancy a locked bootloader). As far as I can tell, the unlocked Note 2s currently available will operate Edge-only on TMO. Can someone verify this?
Assuming that it won't fully work on TMO, can anyone speculate on when TMO will officially release the GNII? Furthermore, are unlocked prices (in general) expected to drop when this time comes?
Thanks,
Adam.
You are correct. Only Edge 2G for Tmobile.
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05GT said:
You are correct. Only Edge 2G for Tmobile.
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Not necessarily true!
If you are in a market where TMo has refarmed 1900MHz spectrum for 3G, you will get 3G on the Note 2 when you are within 1900MHz coverage.
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Dave
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foxmeister said:
Not necessarily true!
If you are in a market where TMo has refarmed 1900MHz spectrum for 3G, you will get 3G on the Note 2 when you are within 1900MHz coverage.
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Dave
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This is correct. Here is a map of where it is now.
http://www.airportal.de/#
yumcax said:
Hi, AT&T has horrible coverage in WA so I am stuck on T-Mobile (or Verizon, but I don't fancy a locked bootloader). As far as I can tell, the unlocked Note 2s currently available will operate Edge-only on TMO. Can someone verify this?
Assuming that it won't fully work on TMO, can anyone speculate on when TMO will officially release the GNII? Furthermore, are unlocked prices (in general) expected to drop when this time comes?
Thanks,
Adam.
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There is a Samsung event in NY on the 24th, where it's rumored carriers will announce them for sale.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/sams...ching-in-both-white-and-gray-on-october-24th/
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Yes man it will be only EDGE. (I got international N2 and tmobile)
But I bought the 4G HotSpot so no problem with edge any more lol.
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Damn that sucks
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
Damn that sucks
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dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Unfortunately, in my area the best I can get is Edge. I gotta wait til their towers are "modernized"
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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xenine said:
dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
hyelton said:
Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them.
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My wife works for Sprint, and part of her job involves explaining to angry customers that even though the store reps promised them the moon, they're not getting it.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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Man, this brings me down lol
Well at least I won't be waiting around like an idiot for the G Pro!
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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Lol! , tower has nothing to do with unlocked phone.
Unlocked phone can be used in anywhere
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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Thanks! I found an app that helps me see coverage by service providers and the type of networks offered and it seems you are correct! T-Mobile has a measly spot off away from me, thus no LTE
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Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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Hey thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I guess the rep's explanation of things really twisted my point of view. Your patience to break it down for me is appreciated.
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Well theres a catch in a phone able to work on a particular carrier. In the case of the lg pro. If the phone is the one from at&t you should not have any problem. As long as your area has been re farm. But i can't say the same lets say on a lte phone coming from china or other country as they might run lte on a different frequency.
At least is what i have seen while working with clients that bought chinesse copy cats.
I took this call of a lady that bough a chinesse copy of a gs4 and she call to complaint that work on edge. When i ask what type of phone she got, she told me well its a gs4. I was like what the #$% you just told me is a copy cat so no lady you don't have a gs4. Anywyas theres was no way to make it work on nothing.more than edge.
So in way you are righ but the other person is righ to in a way.
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I took the sprint training today for sprint spark and in the training it states that tri-band phones will have issues connecting to most current LTE networks and will receive an update sometime early 2014 to resolve the issue..
Just thought I would pass this on if some people with the Sprint G2 have noticed this issue over other LTE devices.
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It's not really "most" and this sums everything up - http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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It's not really "most" and this sums everything up - http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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Good read. Very informative. But what about the device upgrades I was told about. In the training it says the G2 will have an update early 2014 to fix this issue and allow the g2 to connect normally to all available lte networks. From what I was reading it sounds like that would not work that its up to sprint to update the old LTE towers to support csfb which is needed for triband phones.
I'm either not understanding this fully or getting conflicting reads.
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This is really random, but I know someone who sells the towers to many carriers (including Sprint), and they told me Sprint would be switching to/releasing TDD-LTE (currently US carriers use FDD-LTE). This isn't something that the average person could tell the difference between, but it could mean a better network for Sprint in general in the future. I don't have a time frame or any more info than what I've mentioned; just that it's coming.
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Good read. Very informative. But what about the device upgrades I was told about. In the training it says the G2 will have an update early 2014 to fix this issue and allow the g2 to connect normally to all available lte networks. From what I was reading it sounds like that would not work that its up to sprint to update the old LTE towers to support csfb which is needed for triband phones.
I'm either not understanding this fully or getting conflicting reads.
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I'm by no means an expert, but I'm fairly sure that the 2014 update you're referring to will enable all three bands (25, 26 , & 41) on everyone's handset and has little to nothing to do with CSFB. That said, you can already activate all three bands via ##DATA# provided you have your MSL,and getting your MSL is very easy with this device.
Edit - Some people in Spark areas have already managed to connect to bands 26 & 41 with their G2 using the above method.
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The other 2 bands aren't enabled stock? Also I've heard people having issues after enabling those bands.
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I have no idea what the bands mean...wimaxlol
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I have all band's enabled and have no trouble and I'm getting great speeds
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So I've been doing some research since I have both phones. When I try and compare the gsm radios, for both the DNA and the One, they seem to have the same bands: 800,850, 1900.
Can anyone tell me the difference with the DNA? I have both an att and tmobile SIM card and on both cards with the apn's set correctly I get hspa speeds on the DNA but only edge on the One.
Anyone know what the difference is?
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I have read that Verizon somehow locked it the one as illegal as that is. I don't know
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I have read that Verizon somehow locked it the one as illegal as that is. I don't know
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It must be the case because they both have the same bands except for the DNA running on the lte band of 750 I think.
Also it could be that my DNA is rooted and running a global Rom which possible has an unlocked radio. Not sure but it's strange.
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Does the T Mobile HTC One m8 have voice over LTE Colleen after the lollipop update?
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Does the T Mobile HTC One m8 have voice over LTE Colleen after the lollipop update?
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No. The TMO HTC One M8 does not have VoLTE enabled yet.
Wow HTC said it would be enabled with the lollipop update. Only flagship that doesn't have it enabled on T-Mobile
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Wow HTC said it would be enabled with the lollipop update. Only flagship that doesn't have it enabled on T-Mobile
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My guess is they want to sell more M9 units. So maybe a few months after the M9 is launched and the updated sense is released for the M8 VoLTE will probably be in it.. just my guess though.
It's total bs they stated on Google plus that they'd enable it with lollipop update. I've moved away from HTC as the only for thing keeping me was the front speakers. Also a problem is that the m8 does not play well with t mobiles network and doesn't have 1900 LTE. I've spoken to HTC and they said that it was an advertisement mistake in the spec list that it only has hspa 1900 MHz. So t mobile called and spoke to same person as me who was HTC tier 3 support. Tmobile offered us free new phones and to take the m8s back but my children said they'd just keep their m8s. I said to my children they should accept the offer but of course they wouldn't listen. My n6 stays on LTE while there m8s rarely have it. The m8 is suppose to be capable of T-Mobile 700 MHz but that's going to be so sparse. The next day after myself going through all the steps with t mobile and then HTC after Tmobile calling HTC to verify what I was telling them T-Mobile immediately posted a bulletin telling subscribers to make sure that phones are capable of working properly with the area they live. And that its not corporate store employees that need to know what works correctly with their network in order to cover their @$$. My own thoughts are the m9 will not sell as well as the m8 because the phones look so much alike. We'll see. I've always used HTC phones and made the move away because of this mistake of what MHz the phone was compatible with. The children are happy. So be it. The n6 just works well as it supports any band for connectivity and the development is great. The battery life hasn't been bad as reports have stated for me. I've gotten 6 to 8 hours screen on just as with the m8 so long as I'm on WiFi. Average is 5 to 6.5 on network etc with brightness on auto with n6. And I can actually take pictures and print them which will be one huge improvement with the m9 so hats off to HTC for the new camera module.
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