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Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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Your question will not get you a clear answer as you need to match your specific user profile and previous devices with those saying the device is laggy. I do not find my Tab S 10.5 laggy on stock, rooted 5.0.2. I'm not a gamer and mainly use the device for media consumption (reading news, YouTube, Netflix and email), none of which is too taxing. I replaced the stock launcher with Nova Prime launcher and used Titanium Backup to freeze the majority of bloat wear which reduced the start times and memory used. My previous devices are a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 10 tablet.
Using this kind of analysis you may be able to determine if this tablet is "laggy" for your personal usage profile.
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Root?
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
I'm not sure where and when this lag occurs, but I've never experienced it.
However I'm not a gamer.
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
ashyx said:
Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
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Oh yes. Having used a Nexus 4 I know how smooth stock android can be. Samsung installs way too much crap on their devices, but I like the multi window feature too much to give up touchwiz. Last I heard the multiwindow feature still hasn't been implemented in AOSP Marshmallow.
Stock browser is amazing. I used to use chrome but it lagged like crazy. Not sure how Google can screw up chrome that badly, but then again chrome is a resource hog even on Windows.
NEver be a gamer on tablet, i always use it for media comsumption.
but, yeah, it's kinda laggy because my tablets installed with pre installed apps + full google apps.
And it's kinda lag sometime.
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
tarikkert71 said:
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
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I rooted for a few reasons. Proper device backups with Titanium Backups, superior audio with Viper4Android, Stickmount and immersion mode with GDM Gesture Control plus it's customized gestures. I use those root apps on all my devices.
I froze apps as several were being automatically started at boot time slowing down startup and unnecessarily using memory. I wanted a cleaner experience. The unwanted apps also clutter up your app menu, making it slightly more difficult to find the app you wanted to start. In general I freeze over removing as you cannot use that much of the freed up space except for SuperSU, Viper4Androis and Busybox. There are a few more but far less than the space freed by removing bloat wear.
I also dark themed TW settings and the notification bar as I cannot stand white backgrounds with black text but that was secondary to the root reasons listed above.
Due to the ability to root without tripping KNOX I could root without loosing my warranty. Without that I would have waited for a year until the warranty expired.
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steamrollerpark said:
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
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Does that work on the stock kernel if you are rooted?
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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For what it's worth, b4 I rooted I used Package Disabler pro and disabled 104 different services/packages. It made a huge difference and everything worked just fine. But, I got the rooting fever and now I'm even happier with my Tab S.
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks) ¤ Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi ¤ AICP 5.1.1
Yes, running stock here.
I always wanna ask this question but can xposed cause the device to lag??Not the xposed alone but some poorly developed modules?
Easily. Just about anything that is poorly developed can cause major slowdowns. For the most part, xposed alone does not cause slow downs, the older version did have some draining issues but that is resolved. Majority of modules are well made from my experience so I wouldn't worry too much there unless if you are getting some issues(Assuming you're not using the beta versions).
If you are, your best bet is slowly disabling one thing at a time and seeing any differences.
Sure. Xposed provides hooks that modules can intercept and modify calls that are made by the OS or the apps. A hook used by a badly designed module can cause all kind of bad things to happen, including lags and crashes.
Thanks guys..
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Does Xposed slow down the phone or is it the combination of certain modules?
I've been using a T-Mobile H811 since launch and so does my girlfriend. The biggest difference between our two phones is that I've rooted mine as soon as I was able to and also installed Xposed Frameworks along with a few modules. For the most part, I've been pretty happy with the performance of my phone and have been able to shrug off the occasional performance stutter.
Recently, I was playing around with my girlfriend's phone and I noticed that it was a lot smoother than mine. I put our phones side by side and it was plain as day that her phone was a lot smoother when just swiping through panels in the settings menu. After that, I couldn't unsee how slow my phone actually was. Because of this, I concluded that it must be something Xposed related as that's the main difference between our two phones.
So that brings me to my big question: is it the presence of Xposed being installed that may have an adverse affect on a phone performance or is it having certain modules installed that affect the performance? Or maybe, just maybe, it was even the combination of apps that I keep installed that were at fault?
If you have any insight or opinions to share, I'd love to hear it. If you've been forever on Xposed like I have, maybe you don't notice the performance being any better or worse since that's just what you're used to seeing, but if you've use it on and off, maybe you'll have better insight into it?
I recently did a factory reset and opted not to install Xposed. For the couple of days, I think it's safe to say that my phone is running a lot better, but there are definitely a few modules that I miss. Most notably G4 TweaksBox and also Restore Notifications Ticker, though I'm also very fond of Flat Style Colored Bars (but if modules impact performance, I can see how this one might be the culprit.
Thanks!
My guess is that the number of modules and what modules you have would affect performance. In my opinion i think the modules that theme parts of the phone use the most memory. I used to have xposed and the tiny lag never really bothered me at but xposed just isnt for me. Maybe a list of modules you use would make the question a little but easier to answer.
It was explained by rovo89, that if you use modules, which are not updated to the latest xposed, the phone will lag, because of xposed using up the resources and your logcat will be also filled with errors. I think he wrote about this on his GutHub or the XDA thread. That said, I am using only 5 correct modules and the phone is fast as on stock.
theming modules like stana or fsb or others causing lag imo....but others which have single usage arent so power hungry...im not sure about gravitybox style modules...
Eddiekool12 said:
My guess is that the number of modules and what modules you have would affect performance. In my opinion i think the modules that theme parts of the phone use the most memory. I used to have xposed and the tiny lag never really bothered me at but xposed just isnt for me. Maybe a list of modules you use would make the question a little but easier to answer.
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The modules that I used where Restore Notifications Ticker, Flat Style Color Bars, G4 TweaksBox, SNAPPREFS, Spotify Skip, Pandora Patcher, Swap Volume Keys, and then enabled the Greenify Xposed options. Other than FSCB and the tweaks box, most aren’t changing much, but those are also my two favorite modules and probably do the most heavy lifting. And, like I said, the lag never really bothered me (since it’s what I was used to), but then I used my girlfriend’s phone without Xposed and immediately noticed the difference.
davebugyi said:
It was explained by rovo89, that if you use modules, which are not updated to the latest xposed, the phone will lag, because of xposed using up the resources and your logcat will be also filled with errors. I think he wrote about this on his GutHub or the XDA thread. That said, I am using only 5 correct modules and the phone is fast as on stock.
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Which modules are you using? And how could I read the log to see which, if any, modules are the ones causing issue?
pikachukaki said:
theming modules like stana or fsb or others causing lag imo....but others which have single usage arent so power hungry...im not sure about gravitybox style modules...
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I kind of figured that FSCB might be doing resource intensive since it themes on demand based on the app. I really wish the tinted bars were a part of the stock experience… it looks so good.
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So you’d all agree that it’s safe to say just having Xposed installed is fine and should prevent no problems and that I should just test the modules individually or together and see how things perform?
Giving up Xposed completely isn’t so bad, but there are a few things I’ll really miss, especially the notifications ticker and being able to hold the recent key to open the last app. I kind of want to ween myself off it, though, knowing that it may not always be an option in the future.
partylikeaninjastar said:
The modules that I used where Restore Notifications Ticker, Flat Style Color Bars, G4 TweaksBox, SNAPPREFS, Spotify Skip, Pandora Patcher, Swap Volume Keys, and then enabled the Greenify Xposed options. Other than FSCB and the tweaks box, most aren’t changing much, but those are also my two favorite modules and probably do the most heavy lifting. And, like I said, the lag never really bothered me (since it’s what I was used to), but then I used my girlfriend’s phone without Xposed and immediately noticed the difference.
Which modules are you using? And how could I read the log to see which, if any, modules are the ones causing issue?
I kind of figured that FSCB might be doing resource intensive since it themes on demand based on the app. I really wish the tinted bars were a part of the stock experience… it looks so good.
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So you’d all agree that it’s safe to say just having Xposed installed is fine and should prevent no problems and that I should just test the modules individually or together and see how things perform?
Giving up Xposed completely isn’t so bad, but there are a few things I’ll really miss, especially the notifications ticker and being able to hold the recent key to open the last app. I kind of want to ween myself off it, though, knowing that it may not always be an option in the future.
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g4 toolbox have tinted status bar and nav bar....
pikachukaki said:
g4 toolbox have tinted status bar and nav bar....
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Flat Style Color Bars works better and is more customizable.
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My lg g4 bootlooped recently so I sent it in and got another. I also got a Samsung S7. I have not rooted the new G4, but I have rooted and installed XPosed on the S7.
First thing that's immediately noticeable is how fast the stock LG G4 is. The LG G4 slaughters the rooted Xposed S7 in both performance and battery life. The G4 when it was rooted + Xposed was very laggy. This has prompted me to begin looking into the possibility that Xposed kills performance.
I'm only using 3 modules. MinMinGuard, Snapprefs, and YouTube AdAway. I think the issue is with the Xposed framework itself.
Just got this phone, rooted it with Magisk and installed Paranoid OS. Any good root apps to improve my experience? Or any tips & tricks for Paranoid OS?
I always install adaway and iYTBP module, the last allows background YouTube playback.
To be honest if you need a list like this then you most likely dont need root at all. Nothing personal but not everyone needs root nor should everyone have it. Not with the security concerns that come along with root.
zelendel said:
To be honest if you need a list like this then you most likely dont need root at all. Nothing personal but not everyone needs root nor should everyone have it. Not with the security concerns that come along with root.
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The only reason I wanted to root was for better battery life, so I just wanted Magisk so I could get Greenify. I wanted to install XPOSED to get Adaway, but I found out that XPOSED breaks SafetyNet and there is no way to fix it currently, since XPOSED modifies system.
ZVNexus said:
The only reason I wanted to root was for better battery life, so I just wanted Magisk so I could get Greenify. I wanted to install XPOSED to get Adaway, but I found out that XPOSED breaks SafetyNet and there is no way to fix it currently, since XPOSED modifies system.
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Root will not help battery life. Greenify is useless now as android puts the device right into doze the min the screen goes off. You dont need xposed to get adaway. You can use the standard apk for it. I use magisk but dont use a single modual at all as there really isnt one that is worth it to me. Xposed will always effect safety net. If you need to pass safety net then you are just better off staying stock.
zelendel said:
Root will not help battery life. Greenify is useless now as android puts the device right into doze the min the screen goes off. You dont need xposed to get adaway. You can use the standard apk for it. I use magisk but dont use a single modual at all as there really isnt one that is worth it to me. Xposed will always effect safety net. If you need to pass safety net then you are just better off staying stock.
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Ah I forgot about Doze. First device that has it. (Or at least now it works) My old LG V10 was 6.0.1, but for some reason Doze never worked.
ZVNexus said:
Ah I forgot about Doze. First device that has it. (Or at least now it works) My old LG V10 was 6.0.1, but for some reason Doze never worked.
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Doze was very basic back on 6.x To be honest I personally remove it from activating on my device. If I want a device to stop getting notifications then I will close it out. I hear it works great for those that use it, I just dont so I remove it all together.
zelendel said:
Doze was very basic back on 6.x To be honest I personally remove it from activating on my device. If I want a device to stop getting notifications then I will close it out. I hear it works great for those that use it, I just dont so I remove it all together.
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On a side note, are there anyways besides Doze to improve battery life? Do other ROMs besides Paranoid offer better battery life, or is it just marginally better? I am a fairly light user, Reddit, E-Mail, SMS, Calls, etc.
ZVNexus said:
On a side note, are there anyways besides Doze to improve battery life? Do other ROMs besides Paranoid offer better battery life, or is it just marginally better? I am a fairly light user, Reddit, E-Mail, SMS, Calls, etc.
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Roms make very little difference when it comes to battery. Most battery drain comes from apps like facebook and their apps, or other badly coded apps. Then there is also signal strength that effects things alot. I have one spot in my house that has weak signal and if I leave it there the battery will be dead in a few hours. I cant say anything as far as PA goes. I havce avoided using their roms for years due to the bugs they add to the device.
zelendel said:
Roms make very little difference when it comes to battery. Most battery drain comes from apps like facebook and their apps, or other badly coded apps. Then there is also signal strength that effects things alot. I have one spot in my house that has weak signal and if I leave it there the battery will be dead in a few hours. I cant say anything as far as PA goes. I havce avoided using their roms for years due to the bugs they add to the device.
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The only reason I use PA is because of the dark theme that I can apply easily. With Lineage 15.0 or 14.1, could I do the same? Or would I have to install something for it? Also, yeah in my room I am getting fairly bad signal. What ROM do you use out of curiosity?
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The only reason I use PA is because of the dark theme that I can apply easily. With Lineage 15.0 or 14.1, could I do the same? Or would I have to install something for it? Also, yeah in my room I am getting fairly bad signal. What ROM do you use out of curiosity?
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I dont use LOS either. Due to the issues that have been there for years without any real fixes. They had a chance to fix them when CM went under but it was too much work for them.
I only use roms based on AOSP. Roms like Slim roms and my main rom is Dirty unicorns (not on XDA)
If you have bad signal then there is nothing you can do that will help battery life.
My favorite root app these days is Battery Charge Limit, next to AdAway.
zelendel said:
I dont use LOS either. Due to the issues that have been there for years without any real fixes. They had a chance to fix them when CM went under but it was too much work for them.
I only use roms based on AOSP. Roms like Slim roms and my main rom is Dirty unicorns (not on XDA)
If you have bad signal then there is nothing you can do that will help battery life.
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If I may ask, why do you use Dirty Unicorns? What made you chose it over the others? Just personal preference?
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If I may ask, why do you use Dirty Unicorns? What made you chose it over the others? Just personal preference?
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I have many reasons. Ill name a few. It is built off of AOSP unlike others that use CM/Los as a base. So less issues. Smartbar is one of the biggest options I use it for. The devs are a big part of it. Most know what they are doing and are open to helping as long as you show you put in your own work first before coming to them. They also dont asdd features just to add them because people want them.
Hello, I've been experiencing lots of lag with both OxygenOS (and OOS ROMs) and custom ROMS.
I honestly don't know what's causing it, this is what I have installed that could ruin my performance:
So I made a list of all the apps I have installed, so you could help me figure out what's causing it.
Here's the list.
Don't use xposed or pirated apps.
Skeptico said:
Don't use xposed or pirated apps.
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I usually buy everything I have and I use Lucky Patcher only for apps with intrusive nonremovable ads
And I'm pretty sure Xposed is not the problem as I'm not tweaking Android's UI in any way.
Try without greenify.
Use background restrictor from XDA labs instead.
I would also remove xposed. Xposed causes a lot of errors. This device does not lagg. On OOS with stock kernel. U cannot make it lag unless ur making it lag. Like messing around with the kernel etc. Custom ROMs are even smoother with flash kernel
Jamie_oppo said:
Try without greenify.
Use background restrictor from XDA labs instead.
I would also remove xposed. Xposed causes a lot of errors. This device does not lagg. On OOS with stock kernel. U cannot make it lag unless ur making it lag. Like messing around with the kernel etc. Custom ROMs are even smoother with flash kernel
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Uninstalled greenify and installed backgroundrestrictor, I got a nice performance boost.
But I really need Xposed for XInsta so I'm gonna keep it unless I find an alternative.
Or can I just disable Lucky Patcher within Xposed and just keep the normal version, will it impact the system performance-wise?
MarcoReckless said:
Uninstalled greenify and installed backgroundrestrictor, I got a nice performance boost.
But I really need Xposed for XInsta so I'm gonna keep it unless I find an alternative.
Or can I just disable Lucky Patcher within Xposed and just keep the normal version, will it impact the system performance-wise?
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If u can. Remove lucky patcher or at least from xposed.
If u need ad blocker. Use ad away. 0 performance impact.
I stopped using Lucky Patcher 2 years ago, when the official Xposed was released for every phone. Lucky Patcher itself contains many mods and tweaks, may conflict with user apps and system apps so Im sure it's no go for me.
lemonade747 said:
I stopped using Lucky Patcher 2 years ago, when the official Xposed was released for every phone. Lucky Patcher itself contains many mods and tweaks, may conflict with user apps and system apps so Im sure it's no go for me.
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I played around with the toggles (keep legit licenses, etc.) and found a happy spot, that's why I kept it.
I have this issue too. Doesnt matter what rom I try, I've tried 90% of them. Even on a clean flash, with just a few google apps, like on G+ it laggs like heck scrolling through the posts. Some roms are slightly better than others, also when trying custom kernels, if I install kernel auditor and just make 1 change, doesnt matter what, its like input boost gets enabled for all cpu's and they all jump to 1800mhz when i touch the screen. only way to get it to stop is to change the governor to conservative. It just seems like this phone is laggy by nature. lol that sounded funny.