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Official Nexus 5 Wireless Charger, First Impressions.

I had the tilted wireless charger already (link bellow) but decided to get the official wireless charger as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611246
Of course its a lot better made then the Chinese charger but is it better in usability and charging speed?
With the Chinese charger I was using the stock nexus charger and cable because they are much better then the cables that came with the charger, more detail in the link bellow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50254993&postcount=116
The info you need to know is that the OEM nexus charger and cable put out about 1000-1100mA while the same cable paired with a samsung 2a block was able to push past 1600mA but not keep it there, leveling out at 1200mA. The OEM block and cable with Chinese charger puts out between 650mA and 730mA
So how does the official Nexus charger compare?
Well to start I tested the new cable with the OEM block and it was putting out just over 1100mA, so we know the cable is better then the OEM cable. Then I tested the new cable with the block that comes with it and got a steady 1600mA and it didnt drop. Now the block itself doesn't say anything on it as to what it puts out, but the charger base says 1.8a, is that what the block puts out? Regardless the block is much better then the Samsung 2a block.
I don't use a case so the phone on the charger itself puts out only a little bit more then Chinese charger keeping a steady 768mA. Now it can drop below and above that number but it really likes 768mA. So while it does have a great cable and block, if all you care about is speed then charger itself is a little faster but not by much compared to the Chinese charger.
As far as usability, I cant get the nexus charger to miss. I can throw it on and it connects every time. With the Chinese one it didn't always connect and i had to make sure i got it in the right spot and make sure, even if I heard the noise, that it didn't disconnect and was actually charging. With the nexus charger I feel confident that the magnets are lining it up and it gets a good connection every time.
As and added bonus, I have heard a lot about how you could possibly charge while vertical attached to a wall. I decided to try this and I can attest that the weak link will be the charger holding the wall not the charger holding the phone, as long as you don't use a case like me. The magnets are more then strong enough to hold the phone vertically, in fact they are more then strong enough to hold it upside down, I tried! The pad that sticks to the surface is just as strong as I've been hearing as well. I literately just slapped it on the wall and then threw the phone up and its holding thus far. I have it only a few inches above my night stand and will update if it falls, but so far it has held up to me taking the phone off and on about 50 times with no issue. I'm not sure how it would hold up as a car mount, only because I don't know how the sticky part of the base would hold up to extreme hot and cold. I image it would probably fall, especially if completely vertical.
I would definitely recommend the Nexus charger over a Chinese one. I you have the $50 then its a no brainier, it was even a couple bucks cheaper then that on amazon and my prime membership got it here on Monday when i ordered on Saturday afternoon. If you only have $13 bucks and don't mind waiting 3 or more weeks then Chinese one charges almost as fast.

I too finally went from the orb to the new charger because I wanted a vertical mount. I'm blind as a bat with my contacts out and wanted to be able to see the time on my phone while in bed. With the orb, the angle was bad and my nightstand is taller than my mattress, making it hard to see. So I got the new charger, put it on the side of my nightstand and it's holding just fine. Holds the phone great too and now I can see the time on my phone. As long as you can get a smooth, flat surface, I don't see why mounting vertically would be an issue.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

just wanted to say, it did end up falling off the wall the 2nd night while charging, the charger from the wall, not the phone from the charger. A good sized piece of 3m double sided tape right in the middle of the charger fixed that and I've had no problems since.

Charger in use
Can you advise please if the Google charger cuts out once the phone has reached 100% or does it change to a trickle charge? Looking at some of the alternatives (e.g. on Amazon) I haven't found any that automatically cut out at 100% although a few mention about changing to a trickle charge. What's your experience in this regard?
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[Nexus 5 about to be delivered]

I bought the official one and I must say that I'm very pleased with my purchase, Is there any apps which can detect the charging voltage so i may test my charger as well?

zubsz said:
I bought the official one and I must say that I'm very pleased with my purchase, Is there any apps which can detect the charging voltage so i may test my charger as well?
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If you're root, can use Android tuner from play store!
Tapatalked with my Nexus5(aka the Hammerhead)

Hi guys,
I can see in the UK it costs £34.99 but how much is the delivery charge?
Thanks,
M

how long takes to make a fully charge?

xupthree60 said:
I had the tilted wireless charger already (link bellow) but decided to get the official wireless charger as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2611246
Of course its a lot better made then the Chinese charger but is it better in usability and charging speed?
With the Chinese charger I was using the stock nexus charger and cable because they are much better then the cables that came with the charger, more detail in the link bellow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50254993&postcount=116
The info you need to know is that the OEM nexus charger and cable put out about 1000-1100mA while the same cable paired with a samsung 2a block was able to push past 1600mA but not keep it there, leveling out at 1200mA. The OEM block and cable with Chinese charger puts out between 650mA and 730mA
So how does the official Nexus charger compare?
Well to start I tested the new cable with the OEM block and it was putting out just over 1100mA, so we know the cable is better then the OEM cable. Then I tested the new cable with the block that comes with it and got a steady 1600mA and it didnt drop. Now the block itself doesn't say anything on it as to what it puts out, but the charger base says 1.8a, is that what the block puts out? Regardless the block is much better then the Samsung 2a block.
I don't use a case so the phone on the charger itself puts out only a little bit more then Chinese charger keeping a steady 768mA. Now it can drop below and above that number but it really likes 768mA. So while it does have a great cable and block, if all you care about is speed then charger itself is a little faster but not by much compared to the Chinese charger.
As far as usability, I cant get the nexus charger to miss. I can throw it on and it connects every time. With the Chinese one it didn't always connect and i had to make sure i got it in the right spot and make sure, even if I heard the noise, that it didn't disconnect and was actually charging. With the nexus charger I feel confident that the magnets are lining it up and it gets a good connection every time.
As and added bonus, I have heard a lot about how you could possibly charge while vertical attached to a wall. I decided to try this and I can attest that the weak link will be the charger holding the wall not the charger holding the phone, as long as you don't use a case like me. The magnets are more then strong enough to hold the phone vertically, in fact they are more then strong enough to hold it upside down, I tried! The pad that sticks to the surface is just as strong as I've been hearing as well. I literately just slapped it on the wall and then threw the phone up and its holding thus far. I have it only a few inches above my night stand and will update if it falls, but so far it has held up to me taking the phone off and on about 50 times with no issue. I'm not sure how it would hold up as a car mount, only because I don't know how the sticky part of the base would hold up to extreme hot and cold. I image it would probably fall, especially if completely vertical.
I would definitely recommend the Nexus charger over a Chinese one. I you have the $50 then its a no brainier, it was even a couple bucks cheaper then that on amazon and my prime membership got it here on Monday when i ordered on Saturday afternoon. If you only have $13 bucks and don't mind waiting 3 or more weeks then Chinese one charges almost as fast.
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Have you considered using this charger in the car? From what you're saying, the hold issue seems to be the charger itself. Using double sided 3m thick tape may solve the issue.
The reason I'm curious is because I and many other previous Palm Pre users used to use the touchstone wireless charger in their cars and the phone never fell of even on extreme bumps. It was great being able to simply place the Pre on the charger and if you were lucky you could put the touchstone right in your line of sight (I have an 06 civic so the touchstone fit right next to the steering wheel, to the right. Look at my profile pic or do a search for palm Pre wireless charging in the car and you'll come up with hundreds of results and pics).
Do you think the charger's internal magnets would be strong enough to hold the nexus 5 in place while driving? Right now, I still use the touchstone as a place holder for my 5 as the internal metal discs on the 5 line up nicely with the internal magnets in the touchstone. I did modify the touchstone slightly and added magnets every 90° starting at the 45° position and then the other 3 were 90°apart from the initial magnet. I'll try to post a pic or a video of what I mean. The touchstone is not a qi charger so it doesn't charge but it certainly makes for a super convenient spot for the phone to be especially when using navigation. Also the nexus has not fallen once while driving over some pretty harsh bumps.
What do you think?
Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5

VOLTAGEROCK said:
Have you considered using this charger in the car? From what you're saying, the hold seems to be the charger itself. Using double sided 3m thick tape may solve the issue.
The reason I'm curious is because I and many other previous Palm Pre users used to use the touchstone wireless charger in their cars and the phone never fell of even on extreme bumps. It was great being able to simply place the Pre on the charger and if you were lucky you could put the touchstone right in your line of sight (I have an 06 civic so the touchstone fit right next to the steering wheel, to the right. Look at my profile pic or do a search for palm Pre wireless charging in the car and you'll come up with hundreds of results and pics).
Do you think the charger's internal magnets would be strong enough to hold the nexus 5 in place while driving? Right now, I still use the touchstone as a place holder for my 5 as the internal metal discs on the 5 line up nicely with the internal magnets in the touchstone. I did modify the touchstone slightly and added magnets every 90° starting at the 45° position and then the other 3 were 90°apart from the initial magnet. I'll try to post a pic or a video of what I mean. The touchstone is not a qi charger so it doesn't charge but it certainly makes for a super convenient spot for the phone to be especially when using navigation. Also the nexus has not fallen once while driving over some pretty harsh bumps.
What do you think?
Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
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Been using the official Qi charger in the car daily, with this set up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...es/kenu-airframe-n5-wireless-charger-t2573184. Perfect solution.

Travel Dock for 360?

So I realize that the 360 is compatible with most qi chargers, which is pretty freaking cool. But, I put a pebble steel band on my 360 so laying it flat to charge isn't a option. It charges great in the original dock, so that's not a issue. I want to keep one at the house but have a practical solution when I'm on the road. Has anyone found where I can buy a second OEM dock. Or, anyone have a Qi aftermarket solution ( maybe something 3d printed or DIY ) that can be easily thrown into a travel bag? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated - thanks in advance.

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So I realize that the 360 is compatible with most qi chargers, which is pretty freaking cool. But, I put a pebble steel band on my 360 so laying it flat to charge isn't a option. It charges great in the original dock, so that's not a issue. I want to keep one at the house but have a practical solution when I'm on the road. Has anyone found where I can buy a second OEM dock. Or, anyone have a Qi aftermarket solution ( maybe something 3d printed or DIY ) that can be easily thrown into a travel bag? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated - thanks in advance.
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I haven't tried as of yet. I am getting my metal strap on Monday, but I was thinking of possibly using my old Nexus Orb charger to see if I can loop it over the back and have it charge. Going to try it and report back if it works or not.

This works with my pebble band
DiGiYes® Qi Cylindric Wireless Charger Charging Pad Charging Statio... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHGMMOO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_neIfub0KDARFY

C'mon Moto... just let us order the charger on its own already!

Budget magnetic charging cable

I want to buy a magnetic charger and I live in India and very low quality cables are available on the local websites. I have looked for cables on eBay.com which ship to my location but I don't know which one to buy. I need your opinions. My maximum budget is 12$(incl. shipping).
The WSKEN Cable is available at my location. Is the cable worth buying?
Thanks in advance.

I got wsken magnetic cable, and its build quality is fine, but magnet is not that strong - its even weaker than another fake original sony cable i got. But if you just use it to charge your phone without using it, it can do the job.

I wouldnt recommend one with a very strong magnet. There have been some horror stories of the storng magnet PULLING the phones charge port completely out. I got a fairly weak one from amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UOVZOBK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Fits perfectly with my Cruzerlite TPU case. I even have EXTRA room for clearance. Magnet isnt the strongest which makes me happy as I only charge at night when I'm sleeping as the phone lasts through the day for me.

Yup, it happened to me. I use a Magnector adaptor and it is very strong, after a while the whole connector came off as there was simply a VERY thin acrylic glue foam tape (VHB ?) holding it and keeping water off. By thin I do not mean the thickness but the actual long side surface
The good news is that the connection with the internal PCB board are spring loaded, so I put it back in place and tested it then used a needle to put some cyanoacrlylate glue to hold it, it never came out again and the phone still look ok. Now I always try to removing it with a twisting motion just in case...
It is hard for me to understand how they can claim waterproof and use such thin gasket but I still like this phone a lot!

hmm dont think I'll be getting a magnetic charger any time soon then if it comes off that easily. >_<

It's just the Magnector adapter that seems to do that. None of the others are strong enough to pull the connector off of the phone.

I just bought an OEM one from aliexpress for only $2.71 US. btw you only save .03 if you use the mobile app
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...a-Z1-Charger-Adapter/1775016_32429292298.html

I also have a generic magnetic charger. The one with a circle blue LED in the part near the magnet. I found that it charges slowly compared to the OEM usb cable that came in the box. I used the same OEM charger for both tests.
Charging via magnetic cable is roughly 60-70% of the speed of normal USB charging. Is this just me that I have a low quality cable or is it really that much slower?

I tried two Magnetic cables but they don't work on my Z3 Compact because pins are not aligned with phone and charging not working probably because there is no contact. Actually i got one with LED indicator to work several times but on slightly move it stops charging and it is hard to get it to charge again so I gave up on these cables.
I bought original Sony DK48 Dock and it's working out of the box. Only issue is that I need to remove protective case before charging because with it phone won't fit in Dock. It almost fits so I'll probably try to modify larger adapter so phone can fit with case...

I received my DK48 dock and magnetic cable from Ali Express and they both work great. The charging cable ($2.71) matches the pins perfectly so doesn't appear to be a knock-off. I have a Devilcase bumper and works with the DK48 dock also with the case on--just attach the included back rest. It takes me a few times to get it aligned perfectly to charge but works.

I'm using this cheap one and it works great for me. Magnet is ok so you can even move your phone as long as the cable is parallel to your phone.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnetic-Ch...39h-KK-/261850771916?var=&hash=item3cf785b1cc

I'm have WSKEN X-cable Easy Version, and it's great.
You can also try WSKEN X-CABLE DOUBLE METAL which has a charge indicator led.
Both cables charge my device faster than original Xperia Z2 charger and magnet is not too weak/too powerful.
Check WSKEN website for details.

I've tried several magnetic chargers and adapters and always facing the same problem, too weak magnet and if the phone is moved even an inch the cable falls off. Finally I got WSKEN X-CABLE for 7$ and that did the trick, everything works great including fast charging. You can literally hold your phone up in the air by the charger. And no, the magnet is not too strong as described in previous posts, with a slight pull it comes off without breaking the phones charging port. There is even a little plastic widget included to attach the cable into the right position angle and you can perfectly use the phone while charging. Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112026597308?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Magnetic dock + Qi wireless charging project

Hello everyone! How are y'all doing on this lovely week? I'm doing great!
I got my Zenfone 2 last week and I'm loving it, but I miss the hability to wireless charge it and especially to put it in the Air dock when I'm my car. So here I came asking for your aid!
Is there any dock like the Air dock for the Zenfone 2? I have an Air dock (1st Gen) that I bought back when I had a Gnote2 and because of the curved back and some wearing of the rubber in the dock the Zenfone 2 doesn't hold very nicely, so I'm thinking about making my own magnetic dock to put in the car.
Also, is there any way to get Qi wireless charging to work on it?
My initial idea on the magnetic dock won't even consider charging wirelessly since I plug it via a cable when on the car to listen to music/podcasts but maybe If I could get it to work, as times goes on, I would find a way to charge it wireless and get some sort of bluetooth dongle for the car.
My thoughts on a project for the dock involves using HDD magnets since they are really strong and it would make the device secure. But my concerns are if it's safe to use magnets that powerful near a phone for it's hardware and for it's battery, since s not easily replaceable.
Anyone here ever did or saw some sort of project like this? I'm possibly gutting my Air dock if the Zenfone doesn't support Qi wireless.
Any input is helpful, I'm completely open to suggestions!

There is an existing thread about QI solutions since there are no contact pins for wireless charging without some heavy modding of the device casing or usage of the USB port. As far as I'm aware, magnets have virtually no effect on the hardware except for a few sensors like the magnetometer and possibly the magnetic cover sensor.

raynan said:
There is an existing thread about QI solutions since there are no contact pins for wireless charging without some heavy modding of the device casing or usage of the USB port. As far as I'm aware, magnets have virtually no effect on the hardware except for a few sensors like the magnetometer and possibly the magnetic cover sensor.
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Thanks! I'll try to find some weaker magnets to keep it in place without such a load in my mind, thank you for your help

Sure, good luck and I'd be interested in seeing what you think up.

I'd opt to use a cradle or similar holder instead of magnets. A strong enough magnet would probably add too much bulk. When looking for qi receivers, make sure to get one that has data pins (which will most likely be shorted to allow rapid charging). This one is still a reasonable price http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WKWWMAM and fits well enough in most cases. It does even fit alright inside the back cover, but you're better off putting it between the phone and case. It'd make more sense to go qi all around since it becomes a hassle to unplug it..
If anything, you could save a bit of bulk by ripping it apart and removing the magnet. It does seem to severely cripple nfc though.
As for bluetooth receivers, they have become significantly cheaper recently. You could get an old bt2.1 a2dp button-less one and hide it away somewhere. I got one for $3 shipped. There are apps that can be set to auto-play on pair. For $10-15 more, you should be able to find something with buttons (back/playpause/next) and aptx support. Usually these will have a microphone as well

Car mounts

I'm looking to buy a new car mount for my Galaxy S8+. Currently I have a 5 year old Brodit car mount that can be flexible in size, but the downside is that it's very shaky and loose.
I've been looking into the force touch charger car mount from Mophie because of the magnetic attachment, but it can only be used with their battery case and I don't need such a bulky case.
Can any of you recommend a good car mount?

I had an iBolt mPro I was using with my previous phone and it worked pretty solid. I just ordered the cPro (which has the USB-C connector built in) and I'll let you know how it works out.

I like the iottie holders since you can put it in and take it out with one hand. However i'm looking at this new one which also includes wireless charging while in the holder.
https://www.iottie.com/Product/Deta...Wireless-for-Android-_-Qi-Enabled-Smartphones

icewolf293 said:
I like the iottie holders since you can put it in and take it out with one hand. However i'm looking at this new one which also includes wireless charging while in the holder.
https://www.iottie.com/Product/Deta...Wireless-for-Android-_-Qi-Enabled-Smartphones
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What do you mean by new? Seems to have come out in 2015 .. I'm also thinking about purchasing but seems old for a couple month old phone. Has anyone tried it? I'm hoping to be able to charge while the phone is in use. I have a 1.5 amp USB in the car which I hope is enough.

Drey070 said:
What do you mean by new? Seems to have come out in 2015 .. I'm also thinking about purchasing but seems old for a couple month old phone. Has anyone tried it? I'm hoping to be able to charge while the phone is in use. I have a 1.5 amp USB in the car which I hope is enough.
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You can get a fast charger though I've noticed mine is sensitive to heat, doesn't take much for it to start slowing down charging (and warning you about it)

If you are looking for magnetic attachment, I suggest you look at xvida magnetic mounts. They offer a magnetized cover for S8 which would allow you to use their regular magnetic car docks as well as their line of qi car docks. I've tested their cases for S7 edge & charging desk stand and charging vent mount and they work great. Slight overheating with the car docks though, which can be expected but like I said, they have various standard magnetic car docks if that's a concern. No problems with overheating with their desk charger if you are on the market for a charging stand as well.

HANDS DOWN the best case/mount combo is made by Evutec. The cases themselves are precisely cut and essentially indestructible, all while containing a thin metal insert to work with their vent mount (make sure you get one that comes with the mount). Theyre relatively inexpensive on Amazon for the quality of case you get. They typically only make iPhone cases, but fortunately make them for the S8 and S8+.
The only caveat is that they don't play nice with wireless charging. I guess this could be a big downside for people that love the wireless charging, but I charge by a cable and don't own a wireless charge pad so its all good.

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If you are looking for magnetic attachment, I suggest you look at xvida magnetic mounts. They offer a magnetized cover for S8 which would allow you to use their regular magnetic car docks as well as their line of qi car docks. I've tested their cases for S7 edge & charging desk stand and charging vent mount and they work great. Slight overheating with the car docks though, which can be expected but like I said, they have various standard magnetic car docks if that's a concern. No problems with overheating with their desk charger if you are on the market for a charging stand as well.
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Thank you so much! It was something like that I was looking for. Magnetic attachment and fast qi charging!