Hello everyone! How are y'all doing on this lovely week? I'm doing great!
I got my Zenfone 2 last week and I'm loving it, but I miss the hability to wireless charge it and especially to put it in the Air dock when I'm my car. So here I came asking for your aid!
Is there any dock like the Air dock for the Zenfone 2? I have an Air dock (1st Gen) that I bought back when I had a Gnote2 and because of the curved back and some wearing of the rubber in the dock the Zenfone 2 doesn't hold very nicely, so I'm thinking about making my own magnetic dock to put in the car.
Also, is there any way to get Qi wireless charging to work on it?
My initial idea on the magnetic dock won't even consider charging wirelessly since I plug it via a cable when on the car to listen to music/podcasts but maybe If I could get it to work, as times goes on, I would find a way to charge it wireless and get some sort of bluetooth dongle for the car.
My thoughts on a project for the dock involves using HDD magnets since they are really strong and it would make the device secure. But my concerns are if it's safe to use magnets that powerful near a phone for it's hardware and for it's battery, since s not easily replaceable.
Anyone here ever did or saw some sort of project like this? I'm possibly gutting my Air dock if the Zenfone doesn't support Qi wireless.
Any input is helpful, I'm completely open to suggestions!
There is an existing thread about QI solutions since there are no contact pins for wireless charging without some heavy modding of the device casing or usage of the USB port. As far as I'm aware, magnets have virtually no effect on the hardware except for a few sensors like the magnetometer and possibly the magnetic cover sensor.
raynan said:
There is an existing thread about QI solutions since there are no contact pins for wireless charging without some heavy modding of the device casing or usage of the USB port. As far as I'm aware, magnets have virtually no effect on the hardware except for a few sensors like the magnetometer and possibly the magnetic cover sensor.
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Thanks! I'll try to find some weaker magnets to keep it in place without such a load in my mind, thank you for your help
Sure, good luck and I'd be interested in seeing what you think up.
I'd opt to use a cradle or similar holder instead of magnets. A strong enough magnet would probably add too much bulk. When looking for qi receivers, make sure to get one that has data pins (which will most likely be shorted to allow rapid charging). This one is still a reasonable price http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WKWWMAM and fits well enough in most cases. It does even fit alright inside the back cover, but you're better off putting it between the phone and case. It'd make more sense to go qi all around since it becomes a hassle to unplug it..
If anything, you could save a bit of bulk by ripping it apart and removing the magnet. It does seem to severely cripple nfc though.
As for bluetooth receivers, they have become significantly cheaper recently. You could get an old bt2.1 a2dp button-less one and hide it away somewhere. I got one for $3 shipped. There are apps that can be set to auto-play on pair. For $10-15 more, you should be able to find something with buttons (back/playpause/next) and aptx support. Usually these will have a microphone as well
Can anyone recommend a magnetic car mount with wireless charging? Or are they all crap?
No Chance
Magnetic field from wireless charger will interfere with metal for magnetic holder and heat up battery
How's that?
Metal part will heat up from magnetic field like I said before and mess your battery
You may try but it's science
So you're saying that any magnetic mount at all will be bad because it will heat the phone up?
Yes, it may be some specially design but I wouldn't trust them.I am electrician and 1 time i try wireless charger with my magnetic holder just to see what gonna happen and it was heat up and stop charging in 20 min?
What brand was that one, if you don't mind my asking?
I don't think that the problem is all magnetic mounts, since I used one for 2 solid years with no problems. It could be the combination of magnetic & wireless, or it could just be that particular charger.
Anyone else have experience with a wireless/magnetic combo?
This is what I meant combunation of metal piece from magnetic mount and wireless charger
Charger was Samsung , mount from https://www.proclipusa.com/product-finder/vehicle/dashboard-mounts/volkswagen/passat?p_leftorright=0
Check out Pitaka. Their case has 2 circular shaped metal discs embedded. So it'll work with their magnetic mount as well as any wireless charger. They now have a magnetic QI charger too. *Note, the case only works with their magnetic mount, but it's like $10 a pop (I got it when it first came out, it was like $5 or so).
Source: I have one (and 4 magnetic mounts between 3 cars) and charge almost exclusively with a cheap wireless charger off of amazon.
Or, try this charger (or one of these types): https://de.aliexpress.com/item/360-...-eced-4b21-809c-1152db4cb6da&rmStoreLevelAB=0
I have that and it holds and charges my S8+ and my previous S7Edge very good without any need of installing a metal plate. It seems that Samsung has enough metal built inside the case, that the phones stick to the charger.
I've been on Youtube for the last hour reviewing magnetic qi car chargers.
Obviously, they all differ considerably for each phone.
I'm looking for one that just has a flat front surface with no arms or clamps, so this means that a magnet of some kind has to go on the phone cover that I have on my P5.
There are vent and windscreen mount versions, I'm looking for one that is as unnoticeable as possible, so forget the windscreen mount type.
Has anyone got any experience with one of these. Whatever I get must not interfere when charging my P5 on the Google Pixel Stand.
Thanks
How is your phone going to stick to a magnetic mount?
With a metal plate inside the phone cover, placed carefully so it does not interfere with the wireless charging on my Pixel Stand and whatever I get for the car. I've had a normal magnetic mount in the car before using this method and it did not interfere with the wireless charging, as long as its placed properly.
The problem with the Pixel 5, and, to some extent, all phones with wireless charging, is that the location of the space for positioning the metal plate is either at the very top or the very bottom of the phone, thus making the phone either very bottom heavy or top heavy and prone to sliding and slippage.
Apple's MagSafe gets around this because their magnetic mounting system is built around the charging coil so as to not interfere with charging and provide a multipoint magnetic connection that is centered, more secure, and stays in alignment.
The only alternative that I've found that works for Android phones and works well is a system like the Mous Limitless system of cases and accessories. I've been using their case, card wallet, and charger mount for about a month now and they are great. If you want more info on them you can just read my post in the thread below this one where I detail my experience with their products. They also have their own info and explainers on their site at mous.co.
jallenhayslett said:
The problem with the Pixel 5, and, to some extent, all phones with wireless charging, is that the location of the space for positioning the metal plate is either at the very top or the very bottom of the phone, thus making the phone either very bottom heavy or top heavy and prone to sliding and slippage.
Apple's MagSafe gets around this because their magnetic mounting system is built around the charging coil so as to not interfere with charging and provide a multipoint magnetic connection that is centered, more secure, and stays in alignment.
The only alternative that I've found that works for Android phones and works well is a system like the Mous Limitless system of cases and accessories. I've been using their case, card wallet, and charger mount for about a month now and they are great. If you want more info on them you can just read my post in the thread below this one where I detail my experience with their products. They also have their own info and explainers on their site at mous.co.
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Thanks for that and the mous info, funny, I was looking at their products online just last night. I think I'll have a closer look.
Cheers
152bobby said:
Thanks for that and the mous info, funny, I was looking at their products online just last night. I think I'll have a closer look.
Cheers
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Actually, just one other question, does the Mous cases work perfectly with the Pixel stand ? If I go down the Mous route, I have to do my research thoroughly, because a case and a car qi charging pad is not cheap !!
I would imagine there would be no magnetic attachment compatibility if the phone attaches to the Pixel Stand magnetically, but, as far as wireless charging, to the best of my knowledge it does not interfere with any other wireless charging devices.
I have two Anker wireless chargers, one pad and one stand, and I haven't had any trouble with either one.
Is there a preferred cigar/cigarette adapter to use with the Mous wireless chargers . If I'm going to cough up this amount of money to accompany a already expensive phone purchase, why skimp on the adapter
They supply a USB-C lighter port adapter as well as a braided USB-C cable with the charger mount, but I also have an Anker port adapter with USB-C and USB-A and it works as well.
Also, just for good measure, I thought I'd also attach a front and rear photo from my mount, to give you an idea of what it would look like.
Just remember, as per my post in the other thread, if you don't want to use the supplied vent clip, which I advise against as it's not very secure, you'll need a mount from another device with a 17mm ball joint. I previously had an iOttie One Touch CD slot mount and it worked perfectly.
Excellent information, much appreciated, thanks. I'll update you with my progress.
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Excellent information, much appreciated, thanks. I'll update you with my progress.
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Thanks. I have placed my order for the P5 case and the vent mount adapter (my intentions is to try the vent mount, if no good, I'm sure I can detach the mount part at the rear and attached it to my car dash with double sided tape). I did manage to contact Mous and they kindly gave me a 20% code for my first order
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Thanks. I have placed my order for the P5 case and the vent mount adapter (my intentions is to try the vent mount, if no good, I'm sure I can detach the mount part at the rear and attached it to my car dash with double sided tape). I did manage to contact Mous and they kindly gave me a 20% code for my first order
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If the tape method doesn't work, some of these options might. Just make sure the ball is 17mm. They all seem to be around $10, so not terrible, and cheaper than buying an entirely separate mounting system just for the ball joint.
Thanks, I've been looking at these, should I need one. However, I don't see these with the part that would go on the rear of the Mous charging pad for the ball part to click in to ?
152bobby said:
Thanks, I've been looking at these, should I need one. However, I don't see these with the part that would go on the rear of the Mous charging pad for the ball part to click in to ?
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The ball cup and threaded nut are on the back of the charging pad.
Of course it is, I've just looked at the Mous air vent mount....I knew I shouldn't have had another beer !
Thanks, I'll see how it goes when it arrives.
152bobby said:
Of course it is, I've just looked at the Mous air vent mount....I knew I shouldn't have had another beer !
Thanks, I'll see how it goes when it arrives.
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My Mous items arrived today. The case fits nicely, the car air vent actually works well in my car, but I can see it pulling off the vent eventually when removing the phone, but it's not where I want my phone. So I have ordered a 17mm ball joint from Amazon, so I can have it exactly where I want my phone to sit in the car. I've tested the wireless charging and magnetic strength and all is good. I have also tested the wireless charging on my two Pixel stands and my Anker stand also and they all charge fine through the case. So all good for a while . Looking at the case in more detail and feeling it, I have high confidence in this case protecting my phone should I drop it. Thanks for the help I've had in making a decision for this purchase.
**UPDATE**
So I have had both the car wireless charger and the Mous case for my P5 for nearly a week now and I have come across a charging issue. I emailed Mous customer support about it and got a reply today, which to be honest, does not really help me and I think they almost admit that the Mous products are not all they are cracked up to be. They refer to iphone (which certainly does not help me).They have offered a full refund, but I am going to do some more testing myself, as I have a 2 hour drive to do tomorrow and I "think" the issue I am having is to do with me using Android Auto (Google Maps) wirelessly in the car whilst charging, I'm not exactly sure yet, but I am not replying to them until I have done this final test. I am going to use wireless Google Maps for half of my journey with the P5 on the charger and the other half with the phone just sitting on the charger charging with no Google Maps on.I have copied and pasted their reply below, my original message to them, is at the end of their reply, so read this first before reading their reply and possibly give me your thoughts ?
Hi Bobby,
Thanks for reaching out to us and I’m so sorry to hear that you’ve had some issues with your Wireless Charger.
I've had a word with our tech wizards, and they have suggested that you please see possible troubleshooting advice for your phone not charging correctly below:
1. For Apple users: Apple is frequently updating their firmware, which affects the wireless charging system. Therefore some of Apple's own updates could make wireless charging worse or better while they are tuning the software.
2. Wireless charging works by transmitting power from one coil of wire to another, however, the alignment of these coils is very important to transmit the power efficiently. Please make sure that your phone (even without a case) is positioned correctly and centrally, as this will improve charging time and efficiency.
3. Please ensure the voltage is set to the highest possible output to ensure your charger has the best chance of functioning through our case. Some wireless chargers will not have enough power to transmit power to the phone with a case on so make sure you are using a wireless charger that has power from the mains or uses a high-quality USB adaptor supplying more than 1.2 Amps.
4. We will soon be launching Mous wireless charging accessories which are designed to work seamlessly with our cases and will perfectly auto-align the receiver and transmitter coils in the phone and charger.
However, I can appreciate that this is not relevant for everyone, so you are welcome to return your Car Mount if you still wish.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Richard
Customer Experience Advisor
Mous Products Ltd.
On Mon, 24 May at 1:28 AM , Bobby McLeish
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Hello, I have only had my Mous items for a few days. I think there is a issue with my charging pad. It seems to only charge my phone for about 5% and then stops, if I leave the phone attached to the charging pad, it starts to charge again after about 10 minutes and then repeats this. The charging pad itself is quite hot, I think the charging pad is turning itself off when it gets too hot, so I suspect the charging pad is faulty ? I am using the official Mous Pixel 5 case and also the cable and car charger plug which came with the charger. I have ensured that there is no hot air coming from the cars air vent (it is completely off). I think this needs to be replaced, can you get back to me on what to do about this ? Thanks, Bobby.
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152bobby said:
**UPDATE**
So I have had both the car wireless charger and the Mous case for my P5 for nearly a week now and I have come across a charging issue. I emailed Mous customer support about it and got a reply today, which to be honest, does not really help me and I think they almost admit that the Mous products are not all they are cracked up to be. They refer to iphone (which certainly does not help me).They have offered a full refund, but I am going to do some more testing myself, as I have a 2 hour drive to do tomorrow and I "think" the issue I am having is to do with me using Android Auto (Google Maps) wirelessly in the car whilst charging, I'm not exactly sure yet, but I am not replying to them until I have done this final test. I am going to use wireless Google Maps for half of my journey with the P5 on the charger and the other half with the phone just sitting on the charger charging with no Google Maps on.I have copied and pasted their reply below, my original message to them, is at the end of their reply, so read this first before reading their reply and possibly give me your thoughts ?
Hi Bobby,
Thanks for reaching out to us and I’m so sorry to hear that you’ve had some issues with your Wireless Charger.
I've had a word with our tech wizards, and they have suggested that you please see possible troubleshooting advice for your phone not charging correctly below:
1. For Apple users: Apple is frequently updating their firmware, which affects the wireless charging system. Therefore some of Apple's own updates could make wireless charging worse or better while they are tuning the software.
2. Wireless charging works by transmitting power from one coil of wire to another, however, the alignment of these coils is very important to transmit the power efficiently. Please make sure that your phone (even without a case) is positioned correctly and centrally, as this will improve charging time and efficiency.
3. Please ensure the voltage is set to the highest possible output to ensure your charger has the best chance of functioning through our case. Some wireless chargers will not have enough power to transmit power to the phone with a case on so make sure you are using a wireless charger that has power from the mains or uses a high-quality USB adaptor supplying more than 1.2 Amps.
4. We will soon be launching Mous wireless charging accessories which are designed to work seamlessly with our cases and will perfectly auto-align the receiver and transmitter coils in the phone and charger.
However, I can appreciate that this is not relevant for everyone, so you are welcome to return your Car Mount if you still wish.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Richard
Customer Experience Advisor
Mous Products Ltd.
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Is it a slow charging issue? One thing I've noticed with wireless car chargers is that, even when they are getting full power, they can't keep up with the power drain from using maps and other apps. I can't say if this applies to iPhone as well, since my last iPhone was the 4s, and I only have experience with the wireless on the Pixel 5, but whenever I run Google Maps and listen to Spotify at the same time, the power draw and charging hit a sort of break-even.
The Mous charger is a little bit better since it uses USB-C, but my previous charger that used Micro-USB couldn't keep up. I also think heat plays a role in it as well. Hot, sunny days on the dashboard seem to keep the phone hot. Add that to the heat produced from the wireless charging and you've got a recipe for faster battery drain. That's just speculation, though, so don't quote me on that.
All that said, I have noticed it stopped charging a couple times recently on particularly hot days, but once I got moving and the AC had time to cool the inside temperature down it started charging again. I also have both of the vents on the left and right side of the charger aimed directly at the mount to help get more airflow around it.
I haven't seen it happen enough to show cause for concern, but if yours is cutting out that often then it may actually be faulty. If you haven't already, try a different USB-C car adapter. If it does the same thing, take it inside your home and plug it into a USB-C wall charger. My guess is, if it's not a faulty pad, that it's either a car adapter or heat issue, and trying those two things will eliminate one or the other, or maybe both. Finally, just for good measure, if it's still an issue, try a different USB-C cable. Sometimes it's just that simple.
Just a sidebar, if you use Discord on your phone, consider closing it when not in use. I've noticed since their latest update that it burns through my battery to the tune of about 20%/hr when I'm on 5g.
I've been researching this one. It has a heafty price but, reviews have been majorally positive.
I have the Mous Limitless 3.0 case and the wireless charging vent mount with my pixel 5. Had them for about 4 months. The case and mount work very good. Magnets are strong. I've never had the phone fall while driving and it charges at 15w reliably for me. Both vertically and horizontally. I think it's important that you use the included cable and cigarette lighter adapter.
I have an Anker Qi desktop charger and it charges at 15w through the Mous case. Not magnetic, though.
Downside for the Mous is the whopping price tag. I also think the case is a bit bulky but I'm used to it now.
Any car mount holder for zfold3 to recommend? Unfold and fold. Thanks
Any Fold 2 guys found a good mount that worked?
popsockets car mount
maintoiferu said:
popsockets car mount
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Popsockets is the brand?
angka8 said:
Any car mount holder for zfold3 to recommend? Unfold and fold. Thanks
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I have one just like this for my Z Fold 2 and absolutely love it.
GAZE Wide H Wireless Car Charger, Landscape Smartphone Mount, 15W Qi Fast Charging, Dashboard Air Vent Mount Compatible with Galaxy Z Fold 3, iPhone 12 pro max, Samsung S21/ Note 20 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HCN5M33/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_GEARXEJF8AC13HFTX4NV
angka8 said:
Popsockets is the brand?
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PopSockets® | The Original Phone Grip
Phone grips, stands, cases, mounts, wallets, and wireless chargers. Take better photos, text with one hand, and prop your phone for videos and video chat.
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Desk & Dash Mount Phone Holders and Accessories | PopSockets®
PopSockets
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Thanks all
Check out OhSnap! they are awesome and work on like everything =) so many mounting options from car to desk to any flat surface... oh and its got magnets to stick to metal surfaces. NFC still works =)
shigeo said:
Check out OhSnap! they are awesome and work on like everything =) so many mounting options from car to desk to any flat surface... oh and its got magnets to stick to metal surfaces. NFC still works =)
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Do these still allow wireless charging? I am a total wireless charging user and am looking for something, preferably magnetic that still allows wireless charging.
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Do these still allow wireless charging? I am a total wireless charging user and am looking for something, preferably magnetic that still allows wireless charging.
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yes they do they even make an integrated mag charger mounts
Will the ohsnap fit? Looks a touch big?
I got this one and i love it so far. Wireless charging, automatic grab system and some leds. Its great and not expensive. Good luck!
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vEvdWQ
I use this one but you'll have to charge with a cable or get a cradle that does wireless charging.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G82X5CY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought this one and have it mounted on my dash currently. It works but getting the device in and out is a PITA. Does not have wireless charging so I use a car charger and cable and plug it into the AUX for the car with the splitter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074JZGQNY/
Anyone find one with the cup holder
I bought car and driver and then supplemented the cradle with a headrest tablet mount
I got this one from Amazon. My wife suggested it and I was a little suspicious because it was significantly cheaper than the ones I saw recommended. Everytime I use it I'm reminded of why I married her . Doesn't feel cheap at all and keeps the phone VERY secure. I would 1000% recommend. The only thing I would add is that if you are going to mount it high on the dash or from a window, make sure your charger is long enough to reach it because it's not a wireless charging mount.
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I got this one from Amazon. My wife suggested it and I was a little suspicious because it was significantly cheaper than the ones I saw recommended. Everytime I use it I'm reminded of why I married her . Doesn't feel cheap at all and keeps the phone VERY secure. I would 1000% recommend. The only thing I would add is that if you are going to mount it high on the dash or from a window, make sure your charger is long enough to reach it because it's not a wireless charging mount.
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Which one?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074JZGQNY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title