Hello devs!
I would like to know if there is any ROM for the HTC One M8 with the old Sense 3.0 (which was on e. g. Desire S) or Sense 3.5 (e. g. Sensation). I know it ran on the completely outdated Gingerbread, but in my opinion these were the last truly amazing HTC Sense systems. Also, if somebody is interested, I'd be really grateful for a backport like this, if it does not exist yet.
Thanks for any answer!
Nope there is not one like that.
Such a port would probably be pretty difficult, as any Sense 3 ROMs would only exist for older and completely different hardware. Lots of work, for something that is 3 generations obsolete; so its really not going to happen.
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I know there are loads of sense roms out there and there's now a tonne of HD sense roms available too, but I've never really been a fan of sense.... until I saw 3.0.
Anyone know if there are any roms in the works or any ports I can flash?
I have searched and it turned up with nothing. I know it probably won't fit on NAND, but it should work with ext4.
Can't wait to try it out.
HTC have said that Sense 3.0 needs certain hardware to run properly, so it probably won't work 100% on anything other than the devices they've stated.
The Sense 3.0/Sensation ROM port to the DesireHD works to a certain degree but the screen resolution renders it useless IMO.
I'm not sure if Sense 3.0 requires a specific screen res?
I've also heard this. The thing that was giving me hope was that devs can change the resolution. It was done with Honeycomb ports to other smartphones. I suppose someone much smarter than myself could work out a way.
Or I could just wait and buy a Sensation
I have been following the guys over on the EVO section who have been trying to get sense 3 working on the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035350&page=159#
The only differences in the spec of an EVO and a Desire are the screen size 4.3" vs 3.7", EVO has a 8 megapixel vs Desire 5 megapixel. The EVO also has a front facing camera. Same screen resolution at 480 x 800, same 1GHz processor, 512 ram.
I suppose what I am saying is I am sure that once they have it sorted in the EVO forum, one of the devs from this forum might be interested in getting it sorted for us. The lockscreen on sense 3.0 is amazing, so is the 3D like home screens. If we had only those, I would be a very happy chappy indeed. Hint hint. Are any devs going to be looking at it at some point please?
As far as I can see, a leak of Sense 3.0 with the HTC Desire Screen Resolution has been found, so it should be available once the devs have worked on it, etcetera?
desire developer already have the sense 3.0 rom that have the same resolution with desire.. just wait and hoping they will port it into our beloved desire..
That would be sweet, holding thumbs until then
Howdy All!
You probably don't know, but I am (or was until recently) the dev over at MIUI_Au. About a month ago, MIUI shipped out engineering samples of their MI-One device. All the 'third party' translation effort leaders (except, sadly, our own XJ), including me, received a unit (as well as another 500 lucky Chinese users who had to 'win' one).
So I am in possession of an MI-One, which comes with MIUI as standard (obviously).
The world of Android (and indeed XDA as a whole) wouldn't be what it is unless people had ambition.
MIUI will release the M1 eventually, and it will be priced at around half that of the Evo3D ($350 USD).
What follows seems only logical, then.
I know nothing about porting, by the way. So...the main question: Is anyone game enough to help (or rather me help anyone) with getting a head start on a port?
Cheers,
Josh.
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.
bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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Agree, even if porting is possible drivers are a great issue. Maybe its an option to port just the rosie.apk and the framework? (just an idea, my knowledge on this subject is very limit too...)
rafaelegomezb said:
It's funny to see how different are we all, and "vive la difference". Few days ago I tried again Sense (3.0 and 3.5), and guess what? I came back without any doubt to XJ MIUI ! That ROM really rocks.
Good luck.
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Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.
bedobela said:
Hi Josh,
At first I thought that Sense can be ported to the Galaxy S for example and coming from a Windows mobile device world to Android this didn't seem impossible. Unfortunately some DEVs tried it but No BT, WiFi etc. It is really hard to port Sense to non-HTC devices because of hardware compatibility issue and the lack of drivers. Hell, it's hard to port from Desire HD to Desire.... That's why at that time I bought the Desire and not the Galaxy S. Sense makes Android complete and after trying AOSP or MIUI, I always found myself returning to sense (720p recording + fully functional). Even if it's slower then other ROMS.
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One of the major differences in this situation is that the MI-One is built with same SOC as the Evo3D/Sensation - the MSM8660. All bluetooth, wifi, gps, GPU-related, CPU-related and mmc and storage related drivers would likely be the same (or at least very similar).
It isn't like porting it to a device which has a completely different set of components.
Josh.
rootSU said:
Sorry to continue the off topic but I can't use anything other than AOSP.
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So am i. After a while sense starts to show its flaws. Sense is a good experience, but stock is the pure android experience ! And with launcher pro and sense clock (the sense clock is the best thing i've seen!) i've built a better experience than sense itself. This days there're widgets and launcher skins to everything. You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen
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You have to face it, sense is all about the homescreen
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Well, not really. Acctually, I really don't like some of the new widgets. The clock, for example - I much prefer the old one which flipped faster.
But also, Sense ROMs are about proper facebook contact synching, synching with outlook and tethering that works well. All of this works out of the box, and all of it is done in style.
Anyway, it is a little off topic.
Kindly respond to the original question if you are interested, developers.
Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...
Mi-One would be awesome with a sense rom imo.
coolexe said:
Hi,
well if MI-One same as EVO 3D/Sensation (partition layout/hw/chipset version) then there is no problem, same as HD2 and Desire...both are too different devices (windows/android) but now we have fully working android for both devices even Nexus One *AOSP* also have almost fully working Sense ROM...maybe this is wrong section for answer try Sensation/EVO 3D dev section...
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Fair Dibs.
You are probably right - I only posted in the Desire section out of habit. I just updated the index and went from their. Well, that, and I know that there are some very skilled developers here.
You did raise an interesting point though: While the hardware is quite similar, the partition scheme is much more complicated (with two system partitions).
Josh
2? Why?
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Anyway, it can be done. But without owning the device, it's impossible to test out ideas. Partition layouts are the simple part. Nothing some smart symlinking can't correct.
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MI-ONE thread
Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..
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Can we vote somewhere for a xiaomi MI-ONE section on xdadev? Otherwise it's really hard to start the development on it..
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Am from UK were would be best to buy one of these phones from?
Well the HTC Incredible S seems like they are getting Sense 3.0 according to this.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/htc-incredible-s-to-get-official-sense-3-0-update.html
Does that mean the HTC Incredible 2 will also be getting it?
I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases
No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.
The Desire S is older than the 3Dvo and the Sensation and it got Sense 3.0. Also, if you ask on HTC's facebook wall something along the lines of "Is the Incredible 2 getting Sense 3.0", the response is something like "We are working to bring at least parts of the new version of Sense to older devices."
They're probably making an official skyraider like update.
Sent from my Droid Incredible 2 HD courtesy of Newt
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No. HTC has officially said no phone older than the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D will be getting Sense 3.0. They've all been backported from phones that are qHD and higher, and they said that they won't be porting it to WVGA resolution phones.
While that Incredible S tweet is pretty surprising, it still leaves doubt in my mind whether we will get 3.0 or not.
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really? cuz the desire s, desire hd, and inspire 4g all phones *older* than the inc2 and running very similar if not more outdated hardware and wvga res all have it officially by ota with the last 2 months...where do you think we've been getting the sense 3 roms to port from?
now official sense 3.5 will never happen id imagine for this phone...but if the inc s gets it via ota, we will as well (probably not til 2012 though when we ll be complaining about no ics yet)
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I would think we will. Unoffically we already have Sense 3.0 as well as 3.5. So Htc is a little behind our devs on the releases
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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.
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If HTC operated in the manner things do here they'd be out of business. They're QA testing is probably pretty rigorous when it comes to updates and they can't just roll out an update with "Please let us know of any bugs!". That works for an environment like this where people are willing to work through and deal with issues but this is only a small small percentage of their market.
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htc is generally pretty good about updates (i really didnt think the og inc would get gb officially which it did...boads well for eventual ics sense on this phone)
with the exception of the tbolt gingerbread disaster of course
my only gripe would be that they tend treat similar devices a tad differently...we were getting a sense 2.1 ota to 2.3.4 while the desire hd and desire s had already gotten a 2.3.5 sense 3.0 ota
i guess we could put the blame on verizon for that (hey why not) but idk
I know I'm probably going to get shot down but hear me out at least.
Before HTC announced Sense 4.0, I wasn't a massive fan of the sense experience - so much that I was runny vanilla android on my HTC Desire.
However, with the announcement of Sense 4.0 my opinions changed. I didn't think it would be possible to get it on non HTC devices due to how much sense is built into the OS and hardware, but I noticed that someone has successfully managed to port the HTC Endeavour RUU to their Nexus S albeit with not much working. We do however have a newer device, with a 720p screen which the HTC Endeavour RUU uses.
Don't get my wrong I love ICS, but there's something about the new sense incorporated with it.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't know where to begin to do the said work, but I was just wondering how many people feel the same.
What are the chances of a dev taking up the project, I would be more than happy to donate.
Not going to happen.
HTC uses different chipsets than Samsung.
Sense hasn't been run on TI processors, mostly Snapdragons and according to the HTC Endeavor specs, now Tegra 3 is thrown into that mix.
It makes it impossible to port it over to have a fully functioning port with everything working. You may be able to get it to boot, but not too much else.
Makes sense, however if that's the case, why is there is pretty much a working build of Sense 2.1 on the Nexus S?
It must be possible, but I reckon it would take a lot of work.
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Thread reported. The search button does function quite well. We have had numerous Sense porting threads that you could have found. Good luck!
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Hello, I am a Sensation XL user and I have the opportunity to switch to a GNex(trade). The reason I would switch to Nexus is the SA HD screen, dual core a9cortex, better gpu, really good looking and working OS. I am currently worried about the lifespan of my SXL since it packs a single core snapdragon and a poor WVGA resolution.
The reason I wouldn't switch is a few sense goodies such as swiping to text, smartdialing, facebook integration, editing media etc. along with losing my iBeats earphones and a really good looking design.
I kept telling myself I do not want the trade but the small resolution, ugly looking fonts and icons and periodical Sense lag keeps haunting me. I don't like rooting, I like having things as stock as possible.
Please help me decide I'm very unsure what to do!
people here are trying to port Sense 4.0 on the Nexus and you're trying to get rid of it?
anyway, you should try the different Sensation 4.0.3 ROMs out there before giving up on it.
if you like plain ICS, you can have it on the Sensation as well...both phones are good. If you like Sense, wait until HTC One series comes out and sell your SXL then.
either way, you can't avoid rooting...you can install the ARHD or InsertCoin's ROMs which are as stock as possible on HTC but definately faster...no Sense lag.
you still have a lot to explore on your phone
LE: nevermind, the ROMs i mentioned above are for Sensation, not S XL
but i think HTC released official ICS for you?
zerozoneice said:
people here are trying to port Sense 4.0 on the Nexus and you're trying to get rid of it?
anyway, you should try the different Sensation 4.0.3 ROMs out there before giving up on it.
if you like plain ICS, you can have it on the Sensation as well...both phones are good. If you like Sense, wait until HTC One series comes out and sell your SXL then.
either way, you can't avoid rooting...you can install the ARHD or InsertCoin's ROMs which are as stock as possible on HTC but definately faster...no Sense lag.
you still have a lot to explore on your phone
LE: nevermind, the ROMs i mentioned above are for Sensation, not S XL
but i think HTC released official ICS for you?
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I'm not really that good with the whole root/flash s-off stuff. Even if I dug in this new universe I know there are plenty of problems since there isn't anything official about these homebrew roms. I like my phone but I'm not pleased with the low res and choppy user interface. Maybe Nexus doesn't have the problems htc has with the sense ui (even though my XL has sense 3.5 which should be theoretically faster). My next phone will not be an htc since i've had only htcs since 2010 and am fed up with the looks of it.
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I'm not really that good with the whole root/flash s-off stuff. Even if I dug in this new universe I know there are plenty of problems since there isn't anything official about these homebrew roms. I like my phone but I'm not pleased with the low res and choppy user interface. Maybe Nexus doesn't have the problems htc has with the sense ui (even though my XL has sense 3.5 which should be theoretically faster). My next phone will not be an htc since i've had only htcs since 2010 and am fed up with the looks of it.
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Then I would go with the galaxy nexus if I were you. It basically has everything you are looking for. And if you decide to learn to root/unlock boot loaders and what not, the nexus is the easiest to learn with (my opinion) . I think if you go with the galaxy nexus , its a win-win. Good luck
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