Here we are 2 years later with our Droid Razr M's. Contracts are ending. Official updates are done. ROM maintainers are leaving. Development is slowing.
And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
I'll be leaving in 3 months or so, My Verizon contract will be finished and I'll be picking up a Moto G (2014) and floating around the pre-paid market for awhile.
And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
I very much dislike the Razr M. I personally don't care about "specs" but The Razr M is a little too small for me (I dislike the shape immensely) and the lack of internal storage has always been a issue. I hate having to move updated system apps/libs back to the /system partition just to save internal storage space . I came from a 32GB Galaxy Nexus so... It's been a tough adjustment.
When I first starting using this device, it suffered from SOD's (Sleep of Death). Which made the device unusable until the bootloader exploit was released (The first time around) and I was able to remove MP-Decision. Moto fixed this issue with the last two JB updates and I no longer had to disable MP-Decision, which was nice. The performance and battery life has been great though and much better then my Galaxy Nexus.
And last but not least is the terrible display. PenTile display on such a small screen tends to distorts text. It's... just terrible.
To sum it up, I just don't like the Razr M. I got it for "free" on upgrade (this was before the $30 upgrade fee that Verizon is pushing now) and this was the best "free" device at the time.
I also picked up my M in the same way you did. It was an upgrade and it was my very first smartphone, so I liked the size. I used it for about 9 months, then purchased a used HD (the mod bug bit me). I relegated the M to media duty and it does just fine.
However, with the M being my first smartphone, I had nothing to compare it to, until I purchased my M8 a few months ago. My HD seemed to perform better than my M, but the M8 blows those out of the water.
I like M, there's really nothing bad about it. However, it's an older entry-level phone and the newer ones kill it. Step up to a flagship like I did with the M8, and the M will feel archaic.
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And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
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And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
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My experience is not typical and may not be of much reference value to others, but I still would like to share.
M is to be liked for many reasons. It has a sleek and modern look (especially the narrow bezel and kevlar), it is pretty lightweight, it has by far the best CDMA and GPS reception I've ever seen (cold start and locked on in 3 secs), it serves me well as a hotspot and GPS device which are exactly my intended purposes. With CM11 on board it doesn't seem to slow down much compared to my primary phone, the Nexus 4. And overclockable to ~2GHz. Guess it could still take the challenge of CM12 Plus I don't care about Pentile and stuff, as long as it's not 480p on 5 inch, and as long as it's not as blue as Galaxy S's SAMOLED, I'm perfectly fine with it.
However, its shape is indeed a bit small and rough in hand, and in this sense, Moto G did a way better job. I think it should be a 4.5" crammed into a 4.3" body instead of a 4.3" into 4". Moreover, it does heat up pretty fast during use, and that somehow affects battery life.
Like I said, M is just one of the "wingman" devices I own for misc purposes, and I switch these devices pretty often (watch my signature). However, I don't think I'll be swapping away M in the near future, because it's already one of the best backup device I've had. Power and simplicity in a compact package.
P.S. I'm going to try my luck to trade my Xperia SP away for a Galaxy Mega 6.3, hopefully it's worth it.
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do you think that the moto g (2014) is better than the razr m?? or there is a non expensive phone that can be much better than the m
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do you think that the moto g (2014) is better than the razr m?? or there is a non expensive phone that can be much better than the m
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I don't think the Moto G (2014) is much better than the Razr M. They both have there gives and takes. It's a cheap off-contract phone, that's why I'll be picking one up.
i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
Was there any Roms available if you took the ota?
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I don't think the Moto G (2014) is much better than the Razr M. They both have there gives and takes. It's a cheap off-contract phone, that's why I'll be picking one up.
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i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
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i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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i installed the CM11 KK BL, is very smooth and i don't have any bluetooth,wifi and mic issues, except that the screen recording reboots my phone, the camera doesn't have the 60fps mode and HDR, the GPS don't work, the speaker has low volume and the voicenotes on whatsapp are not working (the voicenotes are silent) even if i send one to other phone , when this in stock works pretty well, these are the reasons that keeps me to use CM11 as a daily driver, right now i'm using the stock (183.46.15)
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i installed the CM11 KK BL, is very smooth and i don't have any bluetooth,wifi and mic issues, except that the screen recording reboots my phone, the camera doesn't have the 60fps mode and HDR, the GPS don't work, the speaker has low volume and the voicenotes on whatsapp are not working (the voicenotes are silent) even if i send one to other phone , when this in stock works pretty well, these are the reasons that keeps me to use CM11 as a daily driver, right now i'm using the stock (183.46.15)
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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*sigh* Why not just fall back to JB BL?
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*sigh* Why not just fall back to JB BL?
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Because I don't want too. Stock is working fine for me.
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Here we are 2 years later with our Droid Razr M's. Contracts are ending. Official updates are done. ROM maintainers are leaving. Development is slowing.
And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
I'll be leaving in 3 months or so, My Verizon contract will be finished and I'll be picking up a Moto G (2014) and floating around the pre-paid market for awhile.
And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
I very much dislike the Razr M. I personally don't care about "specs" but The Razr M is a little too small for me (I dislike the shape immensely) and the lack of internal storage has always been a issue. I hate having to move updated system apps/libs back to the /system partition just to save internal storage space . I came from a 32GB Galaxy Nexus so... It's been a tough adjustment.
When I first starting using this device, it suffered from SOD's (Sleep of Death). Which made the device unusable until the bootloader exploit was released (The first time around) and I was able to remove MP-Decision. Moto fixed this issue with the last two JB updates and I no longer had to disable MP-Decision, which was nice. The performance and battery life has been great though and much better then my Galaxy Nexus.
And last but not least is the terrible display. PenTile display on such a small screen tends to distorts text. It's... just terrible.
To sum it up, I just don't like the Razr M. I got it for "free" on upgrade (this was before the $30 upgrade fee that Verizon is pushing now) and this was the best "free" device at the time.
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I still have a year to go on my current contract; I got my Razr M for "99 cents" last November. It was an early Christmas present from some relatives, as my then-6-year-old Samsung Alias had taken a deadly fall.
I honestly don't know what I'll be doing a year from now. Sure, I'd love a better phone, but I'm really too broke to buy anything significantly better. (I was able to pick up a Galaxy Nexus on the cheap recently, which I'm keeping as a backup phone.) Maybe I'll buy a used Moto G for cheap and go prepaid.
The Razr M is technically my first smartphone; I had a Droid X2 (donated by someone who went to an iPhone), but simply used it as a Wi-Fi device. Either way, it was one heck of a step up - it was my first foray into having Internet access anywhere, after all, as well as Jellybean in general (it was on the penultimate JB firmware when I unboxed it; I fatfingered an OTA two days later and was thereafter locked out of custom ROMs until KitKat and Towelroot came along). I was more or less wowed by it.
Time passed, of course. I educated myself. I slowly started to become frustrated with the Razr M's shortcomings, simultaneously justifying the phone choice and kicking myself for said frustration because it was my relatives who picked and bought it for me - I'd probably still be on a feature phone and nowhere near writing this post otherwise.
I like the size of the phone, at least while it's in the Otterbox case I got for it. It's just the right fit for one-handed use. I like the overall performance - it rarely lags enough to frustrate me, and it handles every game I've thrown at it fairly well. What I don't like is the small internal storage (I haven't really looked into solutions for moving apps to the microSD). I don't like the fact that I went from two days of moderate use (on my Alias) to less than half of one (on a "light" day, I might get 14 hours). I wish the camera was better; the Galaxy Nexus takes better pictures in my opinion. I wish the screen wasn't PenTile, or at least that the resolution was higher. I don't like that it now has two separate bootloaders and we have to reflash JBBL for the more-stable CM right now (I'm sticking it out with KKBL, simply because I'm lazy, scared I'll make a mistake, and still hopeful that the remaining issues will be fixed before long).
I'm dreading the inevitable day when the Razr M community plummets and I (and the dozen or so other late-contractors) am left behind with only each other for help. Life happens, I guess.
If anyone has a Droid Razr Maxx that they're selling for a low price ... let me get back to you in 2015. :/
I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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It's really not really Motorola entirely... It's more Verizon... I understand the logic behind it... They want to be able to provide the best possible assistance in the event we call for technical support... Don't get a device from Verizon or a Verizon branded device if you want to ensure there will be some hope...
We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.
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eulogy1337 said:
I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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Samsung is not much better.[emoji6]
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I am about to fall back to the JB BL... Stock KK Sucks, the issues with AOSP on the KK is maddening. So close, but just annoying enough to not want to deal with it. Hats off to the Devs that made great builds with what they had to work with. CM10 was flawless....
I am probably going to be stuck with this phone until next May. It is a work phone and we get new ones when the owner of the company comes back from Florida every spring. Unless,,,, my phone "accidentally" breaks or something.
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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It's Verizon, all non-Verizon Motorola phones can be bootloader unlocked using the official way on their webside. Only by Verizon it can be done only on developer edition phones. And many other Verizon phones by other brands than Motorola have the same problems with unlocking bootloader.
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I'm going to buy the OnePlus if I can. My friend got one, just waiting on an invite code.
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Most of you will probably look at this thread and think it's a waste of space on XDA, but hopefully I'll get through to someone considering upgrading to the RAZR M.
First, I did a lot of research into which phone I should upgrade to... Frankly I was disappointed with Verizon's selection, but I went to a retail store and tried out all the phones, and I thought the RAZR M was the best option for me. I missed the SD card slot, thought the 2000 mAh battery would be great, and liked the camera upgrade from the Nexus' 5MP shooter.
I even went over to XDA's Droid RAZR M page and asked everyone what they thought of their phone, and if there was any reason I shouldn't get it... The only thing anyone could come up with was that the bootloader could only be unlocked on certain firmware, which I made sure to get.
Despite being Super AMOLED Advanced, the display has this look to it that just makes it look bad. The battery is hardly better than the Galaxy Nexus's, especially if that Nexus is packing the 2150mAh extended battery (obviously). It turns out MTP isn't a "lack of SD card slot" thing, it's an Android 4.1 and up thing. Some of you could probably have told me that, but I think many people are unaware of this, and go for phones with SD cards in the hopes of being able to sync with their Mac and Linux computers again.
I was surprised to find that Google Wallet won't happen, probably ever. No one has figured out how to do it.... So if you rely on Wallet at all, this alone should be a deal-breaker for you.
Despite Kevlar and Gorilla Glass, as well as a sturdy-feeling frame, the buttons on the RAZR M feel cheap and noisy, and the vibrate resembles that of an iPhone 3G or the Palm Pixi Plus... "cheap" I suppose would describe that rather well..
The only positive thing I have to say about the RAZR M is that the download speeds are considerably better, even though it almost always has the same number of bars as the Galaxy Nexus. In areas where the GalNex got 30 mbps or so down, the RAZR M got 50-65 mbps down. Although virtually 100% of the time, the RAZR M lost to the Galaxy Nexus with upload speeds by around 4 mbps.
I'll sum all that up by saying I'm proudly sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for the foreseeable future and that my goal here is not to ***** about the RAZR M or my poor decision, but to literally warn anyone here against getting it. I mean, we all have the Galaxy Nexus for certain reasons, mostly to have the latest version of Android almost always, so I figure some of you may be eyeing the RAZR M as well.
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Most of you will probably look at this thread and think it's a waste of space on XDA, but hopefully I'll get through to someone considering upgrading to the RAZR M.
First, I did a lot of research into which phone I should upgrade to... Frankly I was disappointed with Verizon's selection, but I went to a retail store and tried out all the phones, and I thought the RAZR M was the best option for me. I missed the SD card slot, thought the 2000 mAh battery would be great, and liked the camera upgrade from the Nexus' 5MP shooter.
I even went over to XDA's Droid RAZR M page and asked everyone what they thought of their phone, and if there was any reason I shouldn't get it... The only thing anyone could come up with was that the bootloader could only be unlocked on certain firmware, which I made sure to get.
Despite being Super AMOLED Advanced, the display has this look to it that just makes it look bad. The battery is hardly better than the Galaxy Nexus's, especially if that Nexus is packing the 2150mAh extended battery (obviously). It turns out MTP isn't a "lack of SD card slot" thing, it's an Android 4.1 and up thing. Some of you could probably have told me that, but I think many people are unaware of this, and go for phones with SD cards in the hopes of being able to sync with their Mac and Linux computers again.
I was surprised to find that Google Wallet won't happen, probably ever. No one has figured out how to do it.... So if you rely on Wallet at all, this alone should be a deal-breaker for you.
Despite Kevlar and Gorilla Glass, as well as a sturdy-feeling frame, the buttons on the RAZR M feel cheap and noisy, and the vibrate resembles that of an iPhone 3G or the Palm Pixi Plus... "cheap" I suppose would describe that rather well..
The only positive thing I have to say about the RAZR M is that the download speeds are considerably better, even though it almost always has the same number of bars as the Galaxy Nexus. In areas where the GalNex got 30 mbps or so down, the RAZR M got 50-65 mbps down. Although virtually 100% of the time, the RAZR M lost to the Galaxy Nexus with upload speeds by around 4 mbps.
I'll sum all that up by saying I'm proudly sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for the foreseeable future and that my goal here is not to ***** about the RAZR M or my poor decision, but to literally warn anyone here against getting it. I mean, we all have the Galaxy Nexus for certain reasons, mostly to have the latest version of Android almost always, so I figure some of you may be eyeing the RAZR M as well.
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well this is awkwardly coincidental...
you might have noticed i have posted a few times to the GNEX forum on random threads and even started my own on flashing to PagePlus. i love my Galaxy Nexus (Toro) and i have had so much fun with it over the past few months ive had it.
just 2 days ago i got a Razr M from my boss and am now using it as my DD and unlocked it to Simple Mobile, unlocked the bootloader and just loaded Eclipse V5.0 not 30 minutes ago. i have to say your observations are duely noted
but i have to say i tend to disagree with you
i friggin LOVE this thing! sure its only got 8gb internal storage, of which you can only use 5gb, but again theres that SD Card slot and i happen to have a 32gb Class 4.
the buttons dont feel cheap at all. as a matter of fact their quite sturdy and i havent had it turn on in my pocket and take random pictures. their a little cramped being on the one side, but their less sensitive as opposed to my Nexus which is good for me as i carry alot of crap in my pocket for no reason at all.
the screen is only slightly smaller than my Nexus and while its not 720x1280 its slightly more vibrant in color and looks less saturated. its more responsive too even after my Nexus has been updated to 4.3. plus that Gorilla Glass is gonna go through some real tests with all the stuff i carry on me and my tendency to drop things.
non removable battery is fine by me too. ive had not alot of battery drain and ive been using it pretty extensively. i played with it heavily (gaming, streaming videos, tethering to my pc, etc) off the charger after a full charge and came out after about 4.5 hours and still had 40%.
unlocking the bootloader isnt hard at all with Matt's Utility if you do it before the latest update, but im sure a fix will be up very soon for those who have taken it.
performance wise it beats my Nexus 1,000,000 to 1. little to no stutter/lag even with 4xAA enabled while gaming whereas my Nexus just isn't keeping up. and again, its responsive as heck.
the vibrate being low? it fell off my table getting a TEXT MESSAGE!
also its LOUD in comparison to my GNEX. like obsuredly loud!
all in all its an awesome device and pitted against my GNEX its a really close call.
i'd have to give my vote to the Razr M :good:
Well thanks for the reply lol, that's very interesting.
I love the vibrate on the Nexus, it's just right IMO, and very smooth.
I unlocked the bootloader and threw on CM10.1, but something tells me development will be slow for anything beyond 4.2.2.
I will admit the battery (again, non-extended) is an upgrade, as is the... Well the camera is interesting, either the Nexus or RAZR M have a better camera, depends on the subject and the lighting.
I still insist the screen looks pixelated (pentile?), I mean it does have a lover ppi and resolution than the GalNex...
You have me on speed though haha. The RAZR M I found to be more responsive (on stock), though to be fair it lagged immensely on CM10.1, whereas 4.3 is doing the Nexus a favor.
It is close though, it was a tough decision which one to pass into the family "up for grabs" pool, but I'm happy with the GalNex.
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After owning a droid x2 I would personally have a hard time purchasing another Motorola phone. They made promises and never delivered.
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I got my wife a RAZR M and have been pretty impressed by it. She uses her phone a ton and blows away my battery life. I will say I'm not thrilled with the camera still but its OK. The display is fine for most things. I do think the colors are better than the gnex but not as good clarity of course.
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Well thanks for the reply lol, that's very interesting.
I love the vibrate on the Nexus, it's just right IMO, and very smooth.
I unlocked the bootloader and threw on CM10.1, but something tells me development will be slow for anything beyond 4.2.2.
I will admit the battery (again, non-extended) is an upgrade, as is the... Well the camera is interesting, either the Nexus or RAZR M have a better camera, depends on the subject and the lighting.
I still insist the screen looks pixelated (pentile?), I mean it does have a lover ppi and resolution than the GalNex...
You have me on speed though haha. The RAZR M I found to be more responsive (on stock), though to be fair it lagged immensely on CM10.1, whereas 4.3 is doing the Nexus a favor.
It is close though, it was a tough decision which one to pass into the family "up for grabs" pool, but I'm happy with the GalNex.
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im on the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to the "come and get it" as my girlfriend has been *****ing about her Virgin Mobile Kyocera Rise *shutters* since she got it back before Christmas. since i brought home my Razr M she's been eyeing up my Nexus like a fiend haha. she deserves the upgrade so ill be flashing the Nexus over to VM for her shortly.
as for the display with its qHD 960x540 resolution the pixelation on the launcher is noticeable when compared to the GNEX but again the colors seem to pop a bit more and i only notice the pixels on the launcher. in games (which i do alot of) and in other apps its much less apparent.
i love the camera on both phones and i think the front facing camera on the Nexus is a little bit better but the rear camera on the Razr M is pretty beast.
ive thrown on the aaarrrgghh kernel to Eclipse rom as well as the PurePerformances enhancement and it seems to have to fixed most of the stutter in the launcher. i hope they go a bit further with rom development as i would love to see what 4.3 has to offer the device. whether or not its gonna happen is up to the devs.
all in all i love both phones and i think my girlfriend will enjoy having the Nexus as much as i did
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After owning a droid x2 I would personally have a hard time purchasing another Motorola phone. They made promises and never delivered.
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I could say the same thing about Samsung after my SGS (GPS Update). I think you just have to take devices for what they are when they drop, not for what you think they might get. Easier said than done, I realize. It's what makes me hesitate to go for the new Droid Maxx. I REALLY want to give it a whirl, but having something non-nexus kind of turns me off in the unlocking the bootloader department. That said, I'm kind of stuck with Verizon, and I can't run the GNex forever.
I'm stuck with Verizon also unless I want to give up unlimited data but that also means I have to pay full price for my next phone. Although I'm not overly impressed with my gnex toro it does eventually get updates and it unlockable. Motorola said they would unlock our bootloader more than once and never did, they also promised ICS then backed out on both. I still have my x2 but it's so slow with GB and bloat. Things may change but I would definitely need nexus phone.
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From your review, I don't think it's that bad.
I'm considering Razr M, actually. Not for an upgrade, but before I buy GNex.
Unfortunately, Razr M can't be found anywhere in my country. So I bought GNex.
I didn't regret it. But I still think Motorola Razr line's build quality & battery life must be better than GNex...
So through work, I have acquired the moto x dev edition for verizon. My gnex is going to a good home (my father). So here are my thoughts which I am going to post on my blog. The main question, is it worth upgrading the gnex? Honestly, if you are buying a phone outright I do NOT think its worth it unless you care about a few new things. The gnex actually performs nearly as good as my new moto x (assuming you have rooted and customized it to). Here is my review:
I currently have 2 verizon phones - the galaxy nexus and the moto x from verizon. Here is what I have done to both phones before I give my review:
Gnex - I have rooted it and installed the latest 4.4 nightly from cyanogenmod. I have installed pacrom, aokp, etc as well and AOKP is definitely my favorite ROM but I am giving this phone to my father and think CM will be easiest for him as it updates itself through an OTA update.
Moto x - I have rooted it, installed Xposed (for gravitybox), deleted bloatware, and got it tether ready.
Reviews:
Speed/lag - I never noticed lag with my motox. Now that I have the moto x I am noticing where there was lag on my gnex. However, I dont think most people would notice it. It is not significant and doesnt make the phone perform any better/worse.
size - both are around the same size. the moto x is a bit smaller and screen appears to be the same size.
camera - i didnt notice a difference here and i dont really use the cams much either.
battery - much better on my motox. I get about 24hrs more. I think i got around 12-15 hours on average on my gnex and am getting 36+ on my moto x. i did have the 2200 size on my gnex too. this could be a breaking point for many people but i was able to go through the day and just charge each night with my gnex.
tethering - tethering was simple on my gnex. i just pushed the button and it works. it worked with a million tethering apps too. the moto x was not easy. it does not work with any of those apps. i had to go in and work in terminal to get tethering to work. i have a feeling i will need to do this with each OS upgrade too. I am not looking forward to it. It was not something a beginner will be able to easily do.
bloatware - none on the gnex. tons on my moto x. i had to delete it all but again this was easy once rooted.
active display - this is awesome. it is on both phones though. on the moto x its just automatically there. on my gnex i need to download dynamicnotifications app. i think each version (the app vs the native moto x app) each have some advantages over one another. this will be a preference thing but both basically function in the exact same way.
moto connect - Now this is new to me and I am really loving it. I can text - send and receive texts from my browser. This is really awesome as I work from home and dont alway have my phone on me. I can also take calls this way too. Very awesome. It could be worth upgrading for just this feature alone.
Dev support - tons of dev support for the gnex. it cant really be beat except for N5. Moto x seems good too just dont think it will ever be as good as a nexus device.
Company support - none for the gnex. phone is past its 18 months. seems like motorola is doing a great job with the moto x and I have a feeling that they will support longer than the standard 18 months given how they are still pushing this phone.
Overall that is my review. I dont think I really needed to upgrade my gnex. It was performing nearly as well as this new phone. I think it has another 1-2 years of life easily. If you do have the money though, it is worth the upgrade but its definitely not necessary.
Here is my blog post: http://raypastore.com/wordpress/2013/12/galaxy-nexus-vs-moto-x/
I'm with you, I love my Galaxy Nexus. My brother has a Droid Ultra he picked up after destroying his phone, and I gotta say my Nexus is better. People on this forum complain about being stuck with a Galaxy Nexus, I don't get it, this is the best phone I've ever played with.
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I'm with you, I love my Galaxy Nexus. My brother has a Droid Ultra he picked up after destroying his phone, and I gotta say my Nexus is better. People on this forum complain about being stuck with a Galaxy Nexus, I don't get it, this is the best phone I've ever played with.
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yea i think overall that if you are on verizon and do not want to lose unlimited that its just not worth upgrading. the gnex is such a good phone. i am moving on to my moto x but it definitely is not a significant upgrade thats for sure.
I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I think Moto G isn't any better in performance. Plus, it doesn't have much development as of now (not even a CM build). But to be honest I'm also tempted... though I have something else on my mind.
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Go for it if you can afford it.
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I think Moto G isn't any better in performance. Plus, it doesn't have much development as of now (not even a CM build). But to be honest I'm also tempted... though I have something else on my mind.
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It might not have any Dev support but its already getting 4.4.2 kitkat from Motorola and runs pretty much stock Android ..far as performance I've yet to see a VS video but I'm sure the Moto is faster.
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I had the S3 and I had a worse experience on it than I currently do on my recently acquired VZW Nexus. There is no lag or bloatware. The only down side is battery life. I will be buying another battery. Either stock or extended. I am near a charger all day so it's not a big deal for me. I'm not tempted to flash a different ROM either because it is already an aosp phone.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I seriously thought about it. I still am. I'm so used to the 4.7" display such that I fear going back to 4.5" would be too much.
Galaxy nexus was my first smartphone and it made these almost 2 years since I own it very special. A real adventure. Have bricked it, have drppoed it but it never let me down in the end.
Had a great experience with my GNex but the battery life was a real deal breaker for me. Went with the G2 and am loving the larger screen not to mention outstanding battery. Thought I would hate the UI but so far I'm ok with it and I know I can ROM it when I get bored with it. Haven't parted with the GNex yet but I'm not really seeing a need to keep it now.
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i really dont need more than my GNex, and have it with android kit-kat before some top devices is amazing..
I went from a Gnex to Droid RAZR m, only because the screen cracked on my Gnex, needless to say I miss my Gnex badly!!!
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Sticking with GNex til it dies plus I love my charging dock...
I have a spare battery so either way I'll never have to worry about running out of power.
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Sticking with GNex til it dies plus I love my charging dock...
I have a spare battery so either way I'll never have to worry about running out of power.
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Yup I feel the same way. I've been on cm 10.1.3 since september and I've experienced very minimal lag. All the 4.3/4.4 roms are just too unstable. Just the battery life sucks. Even on the 2100maH battery, the best screen on time I could get is 3 hours.I just keep the stock battery in handy for when I run out of battery.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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Yep Im doing that!
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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Getting a moto g would be like buying a phone with 3 year old specs with no development, complete waste of time.At least the gnex has plenty of development but is still obsolete an crappy in the current smartphone world.Even the iPhone 4s which is 2 an a half years old beats the gnex hands down.
I love my GNex.. And with CM11 it rocks.. I will probably wait to it dies..
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Getting a moto g would be like buying a phone with 3 year old specs with no development, complete waste of time.At least the gnex has plenty of development but is still obsolete an crappy in the current smartphone world.Even the iPhone 4s which is 2 an a half years old beats the gnex hands down.
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Moto G doesnt have a 3 year old specs...
Its still quite a new phone hence lack of major development.
Furthermore we can use gravity box for many things.
For me CM11 couldnt save my GNEX it was slugglish
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Moto G doesnt have a 3 year old specs...
Its still quite a new phone hence lack of major development.
Furthermore we can use gravity box for many things.
For me CM11 couldnt save my GNEX it was slugglish
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Hmm. If you could lag a CM11-wielding GNex, then a MotoG wouldn't surprise you either. It's a Snapdragon 400 after all. Me, I feel my GNex is always as smooth even when compared to my 2 more powerful devices.
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According to the nexus 6 page on the very bottom it seems that it will be available on all 4 big carriers, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-mobile. Ofc; you can still get it from the Play store. The release date given by google is late october; no specification as to if it applies to just the play store or the carriers as well. I'm hoping it releases late this October because I get my upgrade late November. If I have to I will probably wait, I'm sure many of our dev's here will successfully port Android 5.0 to our devices. I'm more interested in the full release of the OS; the multitasking features and the uniform material design looks so nice.
So, thoughts? Is android 5.0 everything you have hoped for? Will you be upgrading to a Nexus 6 soon?
I somehow managed to delete my opinion on the the device, I'm loving the specs; the 6" screen is pushing me away though.
When I say I plan on upgrading to the Nexus 6 I'm not 100% set on it yet. I was planning on going with the HTC One M8 simply because of the screen size, but I have used a LG G3 in stores before and I love how amazing the screen is so I'm very torn. The LG OG was such a great device for it's time, shame it never got an official update past 4.1 but it's hard to complain with all the dev support we get with it.
I might go for it but I'm still hating Google's propensity to think that cloud storage can replace the function of a microsd slot. Also a 6-inch screen, why? The phone still has to fit in my pocket. At this rate the number of people on these forums with manbags is going to blow up. Also $649 unlocked... ouch. I honestly don't know what Google was thinking here. They might be pushing their luck a little too hard here but I won't really know until I can hold it in my hand. On paper the size of the LG G3 used to sound like an atrocity so we'll see. Regardless the price isn't much of an issue if you pay it out over the length of a contract anyways but honestly, I'm disappointed.
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I might go for it but I'm still hating Google's propensity to think that cloud storage can replace the function of a microsd slot. Also a 6-inch screen, why? The phone still has to fit in my pocket. At this rate the number of people on these forums with manbags is going to blow up. Also $649 unlocked... ouch. I honestly don't know what Google was thinking here. They might be pushing their luck a little too hard here but I won't really know until I can hold it in my hand. On paper the size of the LG G3 used to sound like an atrocity so we'll see. Regardless the price isn't much of an issue if you pay it out over the length of a contract anyways but honestly, I'm disappointed.
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I mean, when you look at the specs, that's when you realize what all that money is really going to.
I just want the finished Android L roms to get ported to the LGOG. As long as i'm up to date and the roms arent too buggy, I can stick with my LGOG for another year if I have to.
We'll definitely get some L ROMs sooner or later. We have some amazing developers here for our phone, so be sure that once the major ROM devs update their sources, we'll get updated as well.
I think since the 6 is WAY too big for my personal use, I'm gonna jump to the Nexus 5 next.
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When I say I plan on upgrading to the Nexus 6 I'm not 100% set on it yet. I was planning on going with the HTC One M8 simply because of the screen size, but I have used a LG G3 in stores before and I love how amazing the screen is so I'm very torn. The LG OG was such a great device for it's time, shame it never got an official update past 4.1 but it's hard to complain with all the dev support we get with it.
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I have the G3 now and I love it. Battery life has been better for me than on the lgog, even with that amazing screen. The major downside to the G3 is development but we finally received twrp so the roms will be coming. But having root, freezing/deleting bloat(and there is a lot of it) and making mods have helped my g3 be lag free, last over 40 hours on a full charge and just be generally awesome. If you want something that is also awesome but has a ton of development - go with the m8. A lot of devs and themers who had lgogs grabbed the m8 so you will be in good company. Only a few of us from here have the G3 but Im happy with my choice. It's big but not unruly, the new nexus looks good but too big and still no sd card. And if 3000mah battery isnt big enough for you, zerolemon is selling a 9000mah battery you can swap right in. Just my two cents.
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I mean, when you look at the specs, that's when you realize what all that money is really going to.
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First off, how ya been buddy? Secondly - the nexus 6 looks great but I'm a little disappointed in a few things, size being one of em, still no sdcard and still not 64bit. The rumors made me have higher hopes - its still gonna be a great phone with an insane amount of support. I have no use for it but I am really impressed by the nexus 9(my nexus 7 is collecting dust). That processor, even being a dual core and only having 2 gb of ram is crazy fast, and it's 64bit!
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I have the G3 now and I love it. Battery life has been better for me than on the lgog, even with that amazing screen. The major downside to the G3 is development but we finally received twrp so the roms will be coming. But having root, freezing/deleting bloat(and there is a lot of it) and making mods have helped my g3 be lag free, last over 40 hours on a full charge and just be generally awesome. If you want something that is also awesome but has a ton of development - go with the m8. A lot of devs and themers who had lgogs grabbed the m8 so you will be in good company. Only a few of us from here have the G3 but Im happy with my choice. It's big but not unruly, the new nexus looks good but too big and still no sd card. And if 3000mah battery isnt big enough for you, zerolemon is selling a 9000mah battery you can swap right in. Just my two cents.
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First off, how ya been buddy? Secondly - the nexus 6 looks great but I'm a little disappointed in a few things, size being one of em, still no sdcard and still not 64bit. The rumors made me have higher hopes - its still gonna be a great phone with an insane amount of support. I have no use for it but I am really impressed by the nexus 9(my nexus 7 is collecting dust). That processor, even being a dual core and only having 2 gb of ram is crazy fast, and it's 64bit!
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I've been good man, how have you been? Glad to see you around these parts one more time
For me, I'm drawn to the N6 because I know it'll drop down to a decent price by time my upgrade is due (which would be summer of 2015), and, assuming I even get it, it'd be the most high-end phone I've ever owned, plus it's a Nexus, so development is guaranteed. I'm just modest If I were to get a G2, I'd be pretty happy with that.
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I've been good man, how have you been? Glad to see you around these parts one more time
For me, I'm drawn to the N6 because I know it'll drop down to a decent price by time my upgrade is due (which would be summer of 2015), and, assuming I even get it, it'd be the most high-end phone I've ever owned, plus it's a Nexus, so development is guaranteed. I'm just modest If I were to get a G2, I'd be pretty happy with that.
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Ha ha yeah I was checking on one of my bootanimations and saw this thread. Im good, biked more than I ever have so Im really sore but other than that Im good.
Nexus devices definitely have the best support but HTC is pretty solid(as is Sony, sadly we can't get xperia on sprint) and they come with other perks(removable storage, etc). I know HTC will be releasing another flagship(from some rumors, 2) before you're due for your upgrade and I have a feeling it will be better(and smaller) than the nexus 6. Biggest drawback to the HTC flagships seems to be the camera but that's also been an issue on Nexus devices. Nexus devices are still a great way to go. Their biggest selling point is having official updates before anyone else. My nexus 7 is solid, but between my phone and laptop I just dont have a need for a tablet. I wanted to hold out for the nexus 6 myself but now Im glad I didn't. Just too big for me and LG fixed my biggest issue with the lgog - sdcard support.
They're all great phones with pros and cons tho - really does depend on the user.
Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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I hear you and I don"t blame you.
I had the Droid X, Droid Maxx, Droid Turbo, and Droid Turbo 2 and probably the best one out of the lot imo was the Droid X. Not specs wise, but I had the least bit of trouble out of that particular phone than all the rest of them. However, I have grown weary of Verizon handcuffing their phones and me having to sit around and wait for updates, root exploits, etc. So, I have dumped Verizon's locked down phones and have gotten myself an unlocked gsm phone and am using it on T-Mobile. I have already rooted it, partitioned my sd card and am using it with link2sd plus. Feels great to once again truly own my phone.
Yeah I cannot go T-Mobile and will not be doing that I am an Unlimited Data guy, I just going to keep my T2 for now but I am going to try the HTC10 - I hate Samsung and only like 5.2 or smaller screens so LG's are out. Just frustrated with Moto
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I hear you and I don"t blame you.
I had the Droid X, Droid Maxx, Droid Turbo, and Droid Turbo 2 and probably the best one out of the lot imo was the Droid X. Not specs wise, but I had the least bit of trouble out of that particular phone than all the rest of them. However, I have grown weary of Verizon handcuffing their phones and me having to sit around and wait for updates, root exploits, etc. So, I have dumped Verizon's locked down phones and have gotten myself an unlocked gsm phone and am using it on T-Mobile. I have already rooted it, partitioned my sd card and am using it with link2sd plus. Feels great to once again truly own my phone.
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^^^+1 Totally agree, I'd suggest buying unlocked and unbranded from now on. I thought I could take going to a DT2 from a Nexus 6. Long story short, I could not. I got my unlocked Moto X Pure from Swappa yesterday. Goodbye DT2 forums, it's been unproductive.
I'm like you loved droids now not so much. Between Verizon and moto updates suck and warranty issues are horrendous. I would wait for the htc nexus devices before getting the htc 10. At least see what they offer.
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I'm like you loved droids now not so much. Between Verizon and moto updates suck and warranty issues are horrendous. I would wait for the htc nexus devices before getting the htc 10. At least see what they offer.
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Hot the HTC 10 quality is so much better than T2 - I switch phones a lot cost no object - I love the size and the quality of audio. I miss the battery life a little but I got so fed up with Moto. Not only that my shatterproof screen now has a soft dent in it - I had a screen protector too. I will probably get a Nexus if they co,e 5.2 or smaller
Experiencing likewise disappointment, can not get smart lock to work at all, all calls received and initiated go to speed dial, can't easily block numbers, moto voice is junk, tolerating those minors. Most recent, no music over Bluetooth, and the one I'm not able to tolerate, hand set silents notifications so I'm missing texts and calls. I'll be watching the HTC released also, thanks for mentioning those upcoming models. This DDT2 just seems sub par to all my previous Motorola models....And seems like monthly security or other software updates with improvements are non existent.
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Experiencing likewise disappointment, can not get smart lock to work at all, all calls received and initiated go to speed dial, can't easily block numbers, moto voice is junk, tolerating those minors. Most recent, no music over Bluetooth, and the one I'm not able to tolerate, hand set silents notifications so I'm missing texts and calls. I'll be watching the HTC released also, thanks for mentioning those upcoming models. This DDT2 just seems sub par to all my previous Motorola models....And seems like monthly security or other software updates with improvements are non existent.
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On top of all had a screen protector and saw a small dent in it, removed it and guess what that shatterproof lens is soft plastic, it has 1/8" soft indenture in it - right in the middle of the screen. I called Moto and demanded they replace it, just a joke that they put a lens on a phone that actually indents. They wanted me to pay for a new one and I told them now way. I am selling my phone probably but I want it to be perfect for the buyer and it is not. I truly believe the 4th device I got still has some mic issues or proximity issues. Shipped it back Fed Ex (aka they sent me labels ground cheapos) - Now seeing the new Motos being announced and everything is 5.5" screens I am kind of happy I left. The 5.2" is the sweet spot for me. Not saying I will not be back but I was not happy with the all around performance, design and quality of the T2. Tried the Kevlar and Soft grip and very slippery as well.
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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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I"ve been fortunate to not have any problems with my DT2. The overall performance of my DT2 is incredibly fast and stable. No lag, everything seems to operate just fine. But lately, I've noticed the battery life is less than stellar. I can't seem to find out why my battery drains so fast. I have only played tunein radio for about an hour, made a few texts, asked Google a question, and ZERO phone calls. Took the fully charged DT2 off the charger at about 8 am and it is 11:52 am now. My battery is at 70 %.
I do however run PIA (private internet access) and I a, hoping that is what is killing it. Though it shows very little usage, I'm hoping that is it.
Oh yeah, last night I took some 4K video of my girl's bday for about 6 minutes and my phone was on FIRE!!! Holy cow that thing got hot fast! Guess I'll stick to regular HD video since I don't have a 4K player anyway.
I do not blame you to.
I sold my MXF couple days ago and I'm receiving the SGS7 Edge tomorow!
Had to decide between the SGS7 Edge and the HTC 10.
I think I decided well to cancel my pre order of the HTC 10, because of their constantely delaying.
Users who own both they say sgs7 edge wins over the htc. display, camera, battery, etc.
Me too. I now own an awesome Nexus 6p, and I'm not looking back. Now the only problem is selling the damn thing. Droids are tough to sell since mostly phone geeks buy used phones and the Droid brand is now mostly reviled by them.
It also sucks that the used value for the turbo 2 is so low. These are $624 phones, and they're going for around $350. Why??
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This is my first Droid. Love the styling, love the performance, but they just cracked the bootloader on the Note4, so Ill probably go back to that.
I just pick up another set on eBay for 300.
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The speakerphone just plain sucks on the dt2. I really can't wait to get rid of this phone. I can't wait to check out the htc nexus. Really digging the htc 10.
So I'm coming from a Sony Z3C and due to the lack of support (no Nougat for us) and development (no proper CM for us) I'm thinking moving to another device.
I'm taking into consideration Sony XZ/X as well as the S7, but none of them have development going on due to various reasons. So no development is not a solution for me.
Would you still recommend buying the 5X after mote than a year since the release? Do you enjoy yhe phone? Or do you have any recommendation? I don't have enough money for a Pixel, nor buy a phablet.
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Nexus 5x devices have something like sudden death issue, motherboards die in a random moment. After replacing motherboard on warranty you will be no longer able to root your phone (or you will get your money refund)
So in that case, I wouldn't recommen this phone. This phone is great if it's working without any issues, but LG at the backs means that will not.
Do no buy nothing LG. Go for the Huawei 6p.
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Do no buy nothing LG. Go for the Huawei 6p.
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6P is too big
I can recommend. I have this phone since june this year, and as far its the best phone i had. No lag, manual camera + raw, exelent photos, fast update, great developer support and that fingerprint reader wich i LOVE. Only i can complain about size (little bit too small for me) and battery wich is average. From 7AM to 8PM and have 15% left (~4 hours SOT). It's the best phone so far. I am also Sony fan (or i will say "was") mine last Sony device was Z2 (neo v, S, T, Z, Z1).
Also build quality is crap. My Nexus Inprint plastic is shiny now (was mate). Also plastic round the phone is shining (always in mercury case). I can send a photo how it looks.
Phone is really good AND ITS CHEAP.
Wouldn't recommend battery life is horrendously bad.
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Wouldn't recommend battery life is horrendously bad.
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Then what would you recommend?
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Then what would you recommend?
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I would recommend an LG G4 or a Moto X pure, both are more or less the same price i believe, and they are much better than the 5x in terms of a more premium feel and better performance (3gb ram vs 2gb on the 5x :/ ) I have had mines about 5 months and it's not to bad, but it still bugs me till today that there were better devices i could have gotten, guess i should have done more research , btw the oneplus 2 is also a great device for around the same price and great support and performance.
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I would recommend an LG G4 or a Moto X pure, both are more or less the same price i believe, and they are much better than the 5x in terms of a more premium feel and better performance (3gb ram vs 2gb on the 5x :/ ) I have had mines about 5 months and it's not to bad, but it still bugs me till today that there were better devices i could have gotten, guess i should have done more research , btw the oneplus 2 is also a great device for around the same price and great support and performance.
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I already said that I'm not intetested in bigger phones, that's why I got my eyes on the 5X but thanks
Don't ever buy a LG G4! It is the king of the bootloopers. All the 2015 LG flagship's have that issue G4, G FLex II, V10, V20, now G5 (2016) and well Nexus 5x too...
There is no solution for that failure. Motherboard replacement is not a deffinitive solution cause they never made a revisión or something to correct the mistake.
Have you seen the Xperia z5 compact? Very small size and powerfull. Thats the phone i want to get.
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Don't ever buy a LG G4! It is the king of the bootloopers. All the 2015 LG flagship's have that issue G4, G FLex II, V10, V20, now G5 (2016) and well Nexus 5x too...
There is no solution for that failure. Motherboard replacement is not a deffinitive solution cause they never made a revisión or something to correct the mistake.
Have you seen the Xperia z5 compact? Very small size and powerfull. Thats the phone i want to get.
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Xperias have problems with development because of the DRM partition - meaning no AOSP/CM ROMs working properly as a daily driver (I got a Z3C so I know). The Z5C sounds cool, but it has the not so acclaimed Snapdragon 820 with overheating issued, and as a Sony user I can say that the camera is horrid. Good sensor, horrible code optimization. Last, but not least, it may not get further than N. My phone didn't get N due to whatever reason, despite not being even 2 yrs old. The new XC or XZ looks nice. But even rooting requires unlocked bootloader, which leads to loss of DRM keys, which means loss of camera functions (noise reduction, low light shots, making it even worse than it is) and warranty.
For the old Z series there was something called TA Backup which made it possible to copy and restore the keys. For the new ones this isn't possible.
So here I am. Not knowing what to buy again due to the 5X problems..
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Xperias have problems with development because of the DRM partition - meaning no AOSP/CM ROMs working properly as a daily driver (I got a Z3C so I know). The Z5C sounds cool, but it has the not so acclaimed Snapdragon 820 with overheating issued, and as a Sony user I can say that the camera is horrid. Good sensor, horrible code optimization. Last, but not least, it may not get further than N. My phone didn't get N due to whatever reason, despite not being even 2 yrs old. The new XC or XZ looks nice. But even rooting requires unlocked bootloader, which leads to loss of DRM keys, which means loss of camera functions (noise reduction, low light shots, making it even worse than it is) and warranty.
For the old Z series there was something called TA Backup which made it possible to copy and restore the keys. For the new ones this isn't possible.
So here I am. Not knowing what to buy again due to the 5X problems..
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Good to know all that info, we are on the same boat... (i want to sell my less than a month Nexus 5x)
Thank you!
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Good to know all that info, we are on the same boat... (i want to sell my less than a month Nexus 5x)
Thank you!
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I know, right? It's so hard to get a properly working phone. Not overpriced (Pixel), or bigger than 5.2" at most (means without OP, LG, HTC, Motorola) which has dev support (not like Sony or Samsung) and no hardware issues (see 5X). This basically puts me in a situation without a choice.
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I know, right? It's so hard to get a properly working phone. Not overpriced (Pixel), or bigger than 5.2" at most (means without OP, LG, HTC, Motorola) which has dev support (not like Sony or Samsung) and no hardware issues (see 5X). This basically puts me in a situation without a choice.
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Exactly, i totally agree. Pixel is not a choice (is like an iPhone for me, you pay for how it looks) i just want something "small" 5.2" max not a phablet even the budget phones like moto g4 have 5.5 inch screen, really too big al least for me. I miss the nokia n73, moto razr v8, those were good little phones haha (i really like physical keyboards, but i know, that would be imposible in this times).
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I know, right? It's so hard to get a properly working phone. Not overpriced (Pixel), or bigger than 5.2" at most (means without OP, LG, HTC, Motorola) which has dev support (not like Sony or Samsung) and no hardware issues (see 5X). This basically puts me in a situation without a choice.
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If you can get it cheap enough it's worth it even if it messes up. I had a nexus 6 and it was too large. Like you I don't like jumbo phones. The 5x is very light. Some may say it feels cheap but I like it BC it is sturdy and light. It certainly won't bend. Right now there are not many options. The camera aid good and it runs smooth despite 2GB of ram. There the bootloader issue but for cheap enough it's worth the risk to me. I love it as a daily and it fits much better in my suit pants than the other huge phones right now.
It is really sad that I got so few good reviews related to this phone. I guess I'll watch if the development of the new Xperias gets to the point where the DRM partition gets a possible backup and buy one of them....such a shame since Nexus was the most dev friendly.
Even subway surfers drops frames , probably cause of temp throttling (on stock), im really disappointed with this device and google... If i knew of bootloop problem and this temp throttle wouldn't buy it...no chance...
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I'm very confused... I cannot decide whether the Nexus 5X would be a good deal or not: someone claims about (serious!) problems, someone says it's very good... I was a very lucky Moto G 2014 owner, but unfortunately its life came to an end. I wanted a quite cheap phone (maximum 270€) with an active development that can let me hope I will receive latest android versions (cyanogenmod) in a couple of months and I tought about a Nexus 5X, but if it has so many problems, is it better to find an alternative?
CiccaGuru said:
I'm very confused... I cannot decide whether the Nexus 5X would be a good deal or not: someone claims about (serious!) problems, someone says it's very good... I was a very lucky Moto G 2014 owner, but unfortunately its life came to an end. I wanted a quite cheap phone (maximum 270€) with an active development that can let me hope I will receive latest android versions (cyanogenmod) in a couple of months and I tought about a Nexus 5X, but if it has so many problems, is it better to find an alternative?
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I've been facing the same problem for the past year or so, just because there haven't really been any devices that I could see as a replacement for my i9100. I finally made my decision though and I'm picking up a 5X tomorrow. If you want an affordable phone with a lot of custom ROMs and even long official support (especially rare with android), you don't have much of a choice. Of course there is the risk of that bootloop issue appearing, but that's what you have a warranty for. If the issue comes up a year later, you'll most likely get a refund and you've basically had a phone for a year for free. Plus I've also read speculations that Google tried to put the blame on LG, as pretty much every case of this bootloop issue happened after updating to Nougat. My guess is that there was an issue with thermal throttling not working right in the early Nougat builds for the 5X which made the phone more prone to failure. In that case I would say they've already fixed it but who knows..
DanielM998 said:
I finally made my decision though and I'm picking up a 5X tomorrow.
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Thanks Daniel, I was thinking to buy it at the end of the next week.. If yours arrives before that date, would you please be so kind and let me know how does it work?
And what about low RAM and poor audio quality? They were the main reason that stopped me from buying it till this afternoon, when I read this post. Are they really a problem?