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Switch from Note to Nexus?

Like JB on Nexus 7. Miffed at Note updates. Anyone with note switched and wished they hadn't?
Is the screen disappointing compared to note?
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I switched last week. Best technology-related decision I've made this decade. The Note was fine, but since I couldn't stand TouchWiz, I was running CM9 (which wasn't quite full-featured, as the pen wasn't fully supported). The GNex feels so much better in the hand -- and pocket.
I hardly notice a difference with screen quality or size by looking at it, though the slight shrink in keyboard size took some getting used to.
Oh, plus I was able to stuff some extra cash in my pocket in the trade, even though the Note and Nexus were the same price when I bought the Note.

I had the Note, but sold it months ago. I love the Nexus and ability to get latest updates. I feel the Note, Nexus and SIII screens are the same for the most part. Believe it or not I do feel my Nexus screen is a bit better and very slightly brighter compared to the SIII, despite GSMArena test result said otherwise.

Screens feel about the same as far as reading goes. Although I do miss my note...... having a phablet is like a privledge. Not a right. I might trade the nexus back for a note.
Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.

Thanks for the replies.
Are you guys happy enough with the camera downgrade?

I have a camera for camera stuff..... thus is a device for media consumption
Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.

I used to feel the same way about cell phone cameras and REAL cameras. But I have found that taking photos on the note is extremely handy. Hopefully it will be on the nexus as well.

[Q] Has the Note 2's camera changed, whatsoever...?

As the title suggests, just curious if there is any difference in the camera, lens e.t.c. compared to Note 1?
I've searched on google and can't seem to find anything on it - I know there is a difference in shutter speed etc, but wondering about the hardware side of things, because my SG3 shoots far better photos than my note!:victory:

Not really.just the type of the camera.its the same camera as on the galaxy s3 but with more features and improved
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I don't know what the differences are but the camera on my wife's S3 is significantly better than in my Note.
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If the camera is the same as the Galaxy S III's, then there's going to be no noticeable improvement in low-lighting conditions from the original Galaxy Note (on its original settings). Just additional camera features to utilize it differently. The camera optics are a joke on the Galaxy Note II/Galaxy S III - it's sad when a crappy little 1 year old iPhone 4S and even an iPod Touch from 2 years ago takes better pictures in environments that aren't well-lit.

darn.. i was really hoping for slightly better optics. is the GS III really not as good as the iphone 4s when it comes to low light?

megagodx said:
If the camera is the same as the Galaxy S III's, then there's going to be no noticeable improvement in low-lighting conditions from the original Galaxy Note (on its original settings). Just additional camera features to utilize it differently. The camera optics are a joke on the Galaxy Note II/Galaxy S III - it's sad when a crappy little 1 year old iPhone 4S and even an iPod Touch from 2 years ago takes better pictures in environments that aren't well-lit.
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Ipod Touch?! Are you serious?! The camera is a mess I don´t know what someone may expect from a smartphone...but pics on my S3 are *goddamned* extremely good...even better than the pics of my girlfriends 4S! It may appear that the new Nokia line will challenge this experience, as they seem to bring some really good functions...but till now, I can´t imagine I ever saw better pics on a SP.

I used the Night mode setting and took a picture at night under a poorly lit street light. The pic came out quite nice

Actually the only thing that is holding me back from fully commiting myself to the Note II is the camera quality,will wait till tomorrow after the new iphone is announced and will decide accordingly.

It was supposed to come with Sony's new 13 mega pixel camera but idk what happened and now the lg Q is first phone to come out with it.. :thumbdown:
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You DO realize that the Galaxy S III camera has the SAME optics as the iPhone 4S. They take virtually IDENTICAL pictures.
....you may be doing it wrong.

Gore785 said:
It was supposed to come with Sony's new 13 mega pixel camera but idk what happened and now the lg Q is first phone to come out with it.. :thumbdown:
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I'd rather have 8MP and a better lens than 13MP.
8MP are more than enough, that doesn't say much about picture quality. More MP will just make the image files bigger, you won't see any real difference.

riggnix said:
I'd rather have 8MP and a better lens than 13MP.
8MP are more than enough, that doesn't say much about picture quality. More MP will just make the image files bigger, you won't see any real difference.
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You will see a big difference when zoomed in.

riggnix said:
I'd rather have 8MP and a better lens than 13MP.
8MP are more than enough, that doesn't say much about picture quality. More MP will just make the image files bigger, you won't see any real difference.
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+1, you are absolutely right. 8mp is more than enough to take good fotos, is much more important to have a good lens and a good camera that having more mb and take big foto files to fill your sd card faster.

riggnix said:
I'd rather have 8MP and a better lens than 13MP.
8MP are more than enough, that doesn't say much about picture quality. More MP will just make the image files bigger, you won't see any real difference.
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The Optimus G sports a mounted 13 megapixel camera, making it one of the highest resolution shooters we have seen on an Android device. LG’s camera is said to use Sony’s new stacked CMOS image sensor, which was slated to appear in the Samsung Galaxy Note II but then killed when Sony couldn’t meet capacity.*We will have to wait and see some sample photos from the LG Optimus G, but it has the technology to deliver some of the best phone pictures ever.
Also 1080p @ 60fps
More on the new camera http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-107E/index.html
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nice 60fps

Here's to hoping the Note II will feature a slow motion recoding feature.
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I sure hope the camera is great on this phone cause it will be a very important factor for me.
Lol all this talk about rather having a great lens and 8MP.
Why not have a great lens and 13MP? .... Xperia T style?

Jcossack88 said:
Here's to hoping the Note II will feature a slow motion recoding feature.
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It does. No sound though. Someone posted sample vids on facebook.
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megagodx said:
If the camera is the same as the Galaxy S III's, then there's going to be no noticeable improvement in low-lighting conditions from the original Galaxy Note (on its original settings). Just additional camera features to utilize it differently. The camera optics are a joke on the Galaxy Note II/Galaxy S III - it's sad when a crappy little 1 year old iPhone 4S and even an iPod Touch from 2 years ago takes better pictures in environments that aren't well-lit.
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You better don't post when you don't know.. cam on s3 is almost same that of iPhone 4s, forget abt. iPod stuffs...
I saw pictures sample from gsmarena that note2's photos are slightly better then s3's, well focused and little more details, I like it. They slightly improved from s3.

I also read about how Samsung is now developing their own camera technology for their smart phones. They just built a 13 Mega pixel with new lens technology.. they said it should be coming to future Samsung smart phones.
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Note 2 camera vs note 3 camera

Am I the only one who finds the camera on my note 2 way better than the note 3 camera?? Do I have a lemon?
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rickm8384 said:
Am I the only one who finds the camera on my note 2 way better than the note 3 camera?? Do I have a lemon?
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I'm going to vote for lemon. I did not have a Note2 or Galaxy3 but I started with the HTC Hero and am currently on a Note3 and have probably had 15 devices in between. The Note3 camera has performed for me pretty much identically to my S4 camera which performed significantly better than my S2 camera, which was the first phone camera that got me to ditch a point and shoot and only keep a DSLR on hand for serious photography projects.
As amazing as these cameras are they are still pretty fallible...the sensors aren't huge and the lenses are kinda lacking. But all said, they produce shocking amazing photographs in most situations given that these are all-in-one devices (which have historically been "the worst at every function but, hey, it does all of them")
Setting up test scenarios can be difficult given the amount of variables that could be involved.
All said, I'd have to say that you might have a lemon on your hands. It happens. We hear about these one-off cases all the time on XDA. They often start flame wars. Tens of millions of these devices are produced in different production runs. I work in manufacturing...no two runs (or items in any given run) are ever completely identical. Even though I have always gotten the best-in-show of each device I've ever gotten and had no problems that I've heard described--hey, I've been very lucky so far--I know that, statistically speaking, there is a chance that I turn up a dud.
On the bright side, statistically speaking, you've gotten that out of the way and should have a long spell of good luck with statistically insignificant defects.
Caveat: YMMV

rickm8384 said:
Am I the only one who finds the camera on my note 2 way better than the note 3 camera?? Do I have a lemon?
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You are correct , the note 3 camera sucks.
I came from a HTC one and it blows the note 3 out the water. Even my s2 was better then this.
The note 3 camera takes fair pic in bright light, but indoors is crap.
They all look gainy and flat.
I knew the camera wasn't going or be all that but like so much other things about the phone that I got it anyway.
I hope they can do a patch to fix the camera but I think it's hardware and not software.
And for those that say it must be my phone its not. My girls is the same and the reviews pics I see on the net are the same.

My phone takes clear images. It has its days though when I'm inside and it looks crappy it looks crystal clear outside though and dark even zoomed in at 4x video and pictures look great outdoors indoors ehh like I said has its moments where I capture a good picture
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rickm8384 said:
Am I the only one who finds the camera on my note 2 way better than the note 3 camera?? Do I have a lemon?
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Turn of the "tap to take a picture" setting in your camera app....
I would be willing to bet your gripe here is that your pictures are blurry, that is likely why. And turn on image stabilization.
Best of luck

I'd say u have a lemon. Had the note 2 and note 3 and I will say note 3 is the best camera I've used personally on a smart phone
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cun7 said:
Turn of the "tap to take a picture" setting in your camera app....
I would be willing to bet your gripe here is that your pictures are blurry, that is likely why. And turn on image stabilization.
Best of luck
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tap to take photo is off by default.
jcannon318 said:
I'd say u have a lemon. Had the note 2 and note 3 and I will say note 3 is the best camera I've used personally on a smart phone
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And I doubt there is that many lemons out there.
go into your bathroom and take a pic of something. Then take that same item and go outside in the bright light and take a pic. You can clearly see the indoors pic is crap.
also all this is without flash. Flash helps alot but not all pictures you need flash.

Note 3 to M8 - anyone done this?

Hi,
My first Jump is coming up in a few weeks and as I'm something of a phone whore I'm starting to look at my options.
I really like the Note 3, but I use literally none of its whiz-bang features (auto scrolling, s-pen, hovery finger crap, etc.). The reason I like it so much are its display, speed, and battery life. I used to think a lot of its camera features were silly and gimmicky, but after putting many of them to use on a trip to the Caribbean side of Mexico a couple months ago I found a whole new respect those as well. The only thing I can point to that I really don't like is that it's plastic, and the faux-leather is really cheesy IMHO.
Has anyone gone from the Note 3 to the M8? What are your impressions of the M8 by comparison, specifically regarding the display, speed, battery life, and camera functionality? Is Boom Sound all it's cracked up to be? Zoe? How is the IR blaster and associated software compared to the N3 solution?
I'm not looking for someone to tell me the M8 is "better" per se, more along the lines of whether anything about the experience is disappointing coming from the N3.
Thanks!

I decided to make the transition from the Note 3 to the M8. I honestly can't begin to describe how happy I am with this phone.
The only noticeable difference for me in the display is when viewing the color black. On the Note 3's display, black is just turned off pixels, so it's a true black (kinda miss that). In every other regard, I think the displays are comparable.
The M8 is definitely faster than the Note 3 IMO. Touchwiz was so bloated and laggy, whereas Sense seems more lightweight and optimized. Apps open faster and the overall performance is beter.
Surprisingly, I don't notice much of a difference in battery life. HTC must have really optimized their software in this device because it seems about the same as the Note 3.
The camera is the main downfall of this phone, but not a huge one. I really enjoyed the Note 3's camera quality and took it for granted. The M8's camera isn't bad, but the quality just doesn't compare except for when using the front facing camera. There is a plethora of options available in the camera app, though, so having the features shouldn't be a problem.
To wrap this up, I'll just say that boom sound is amazing (seriously the best speakers I've ever had in a mobile device), I've never used Zoe, and my experience with the IR blaster has been about the same as with the Note 3

I did merely cuz I was tired of touchwiz. Also the big screen novelty worn off. Better battery life too
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Same here got tired a little of TW .... Both are great phones ...
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I changed as well because I wanted the speakers. I had the HTC one before the note 3 as well. I will also get the note 4 when that comes out. so you might want to wait for that shouldn't be much longer.
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Galaxy Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL?

I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.

ChrisAC84 said:
I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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Who's going to have an opinion on a device that has not been released yet?

For me it came down to durability. I work in construction, so an all-glass body like the Note8 would be less durable and more prone to breakage than the Pixel 2's aluminum body.

Pixel 2 XL just because of better performance becasue of stock Android.
Touchwiz (Samsung Experience) is biggest crap with micro laggs and big laggs after time ..
Never gonna buy samsung in the near future again.

ChrisAC84 said:
I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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I don't think you can go wrong with either. It will pretty much come down to vanilla, timely and guaranteed updates or the extras the Note 8 brings to the table. Note 8 is an amazing device and I'm sure the P2XL will be amazing too.

Well, the decision was easy for me. I don't like TouchWiz and I demand prompt, regular updates. Samsung is getting better about their updates, but they are nowhere near Google. My vote goes to the Pixel 2 XL.

Pixel. Any day of the year
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The New 8 is a beast, but I'm into Google devices like this badboy Pixel XL 2!

I had and returned a Note8. The phone is ridiculously fast and I have always liked the Samsung skin. However I greatly disliked the curved screen because I found things near the edges harder to see. Also the phone is crazy fragile with the curved glass front and the glass back. Dropping it once would probably destroy my $1,000+ phone. In the end I sent it back.

I had the s7e, pixel xl, s8+, and now currently have note 8, I've grown to like Samsung skin quite a bit as it does have a lot of useful features, but my short time with the pixel I really enjoyed it also but missed VoLTE was I was with att at the time. But now I'm with tmo and preordered the pixel 2 xl, but only time will tell if I'll end up canceling it as I really do love my note 8 but it's frigging heavy! But I don't think the poled screen will compare to samsungs super amoled, and I would really really miss the micro sad card

I've been using note since it came out and I've loved every second of it. I'm curious if pixel XL 2 that I have ordered can bump it out of the daily slot
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ChrisAC84 said:
I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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For me the pixel wins over the note 8 in pretty much every category except for the storage, not offering a 256gb version in 2017 is ridiculous..get with the times google.
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I pre ordered my N8 and I like it as a daily driver. We just got root for it.
That said, my trading in my Pixel XL for a Pixel XL 2.

Not sure what everyone's fascination is with manufacturer's bloatware and in contrast labeling the purest android phones to ever be made as vanilla.
The whole idea behind android is that you can do more with it, google simply (finally) made an android phone how it was meant to be made. Hardware and software that work flawlessly together but yet offer so much more that iOS does.
People still want phones that the true android experience such as , quickness, flawlessness gets mutilated by so many manufacturer's getting their greedy little hands on them and pretty much ruin what android is supposed to be. And don't get me started on the carriers crapware.
I have had a note 2, note 3, s6, s7 edge, HTC evo, mottoX.........all of which get glitchy and turn to crap slowly after each new android/manufacturer/carrier update. BUT NO MORE I TELL YOU!
Go buy a Pixel 2 XL and see how flawless everything works for you, very similar to iPhones. With the major difference is still being able to do soooo much more than iPhones.
There is no comparison between google phones and other android using phones and iPhone anymore. Hell google won hands down lol.
Mine will arrive on Oct 24th at my door step. I will post about the experience I have with the phone later.

force70 said:
For me the pixel wins over the note 8 in pretty much every category except for the storage, not offering a 256gb version in 2017 is ridiculous..get with the times google.
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Every category except water/dust resistance, display size, features, screen quality and wireless charging. ?

I have an s8+ which I really like, but I cant deal with having to debloat the device, deal with bixby and all the other branded garbage, so I'm willing to take a slightly more ugly phone (imho) and screen in order to get more timely updates. I honestly would stick with the s8+ if they had a non touchwiz edition. The general public does not care, and I think pixel will remain niche because of it. I'll miss samsung pay, which is really nice being able to use old machines and not wondering if they have NFC or not.

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I have an s8+ which I really like, but I cant deal with having to debloat the device, deal with bixby and all the other branded garbage, so I'm willing to take a slightly more ugly phone (imho) and screen in order to get more timely updates. I honestly would stick with the s8+ if they had a non touchwiz edition. The general public does not care, and I think pixel will remain niche because of it. I'll miss samsung pay, which is really nice being able to use old machines and not wondering if they have NFC or not.
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I have an unlocked S8 plus on Verizon. Last year I had the pixel and switched back to Samsung for the water proofing. I missed the pixel. The camera on it was great and even my wife loved it, she is all about social media and photos.
I ordered a Pixel 2 XL this year because I'm used to the larger screen. I feel that if the Pixel 2 XL is the same as the Pixel it will be a good phone. For me greatness will be a better camera from last year and battery life on par with the S8 plus. I guess by the end of the month we will be either singing it's praise or complaining.
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dhaugru said:
Every category except water/dust resistance, display size, features, screen quality and wireless charging. ?
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Well luckily for me i dont care about the IP rating or wireless charging.
The extra screen real estate granted would be nice for sure but id rather have a slightly smalller screen with front firing speakers.
Screen quality on any flagship these days will be great...sure if you want to not pick the note 8 is better but Im sure the pixel will be just fine to look at.
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force70 said:
Well luckily for me i dont care about the IP rating or wireless charging.
The extra screen real estate granted would be nice for sure but id rather have a slightly smalller screen with front firing speakers.
Screen quality on any flagship these days will be great...sure if you want to not pick the note 8 is better but Im sure the pixel will be just fine to look at.
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The Pixel 2 is water and dust resistant no different then the Note 8. IP67/68 is for all intent purposes the same, the only difference is IP68 can go to 1.5m instead of 1m. Unless you go swimming all the time with your phone I do not see an issue. Wireless charging and an SD card slot would have been nice, but after dealing with all the bloat and problems with other MFGs, I am ready for a pure Android experience and timely updates.

I thought I'd put my thoughts on this as well.
I had the Note 8 for 4 months or so, and have recently switched over to the Pixel Xl 2.
As choices go, it was one of the hardest when it comes to choosing between phones. In the end, the Pixel XL 2 won me over on points, some of which were personal, some of which were facts.
Battery - (It's better on the Pixel XL 2, than the Note 8. It's a fact)
I am a heavy user (Spotify, chatting, a lot of syncing apps + a garmin vivosmartHr+). Unplugged at 7 AM, the Pixel's battery is at about 20% at around 23:30 (11:30 PM). To me, this is spectacular. Leaving work at 6 PM, it's almost always at 50-55%, and that is with me using it for streaming music as I work, chatting with my partner between job tasks, and using it on my lunch break. The Note 8 never gave me this sort of longevity. I almost always had to charge at around...2-3 PM, when the battery was at about 30% or such. The Note 8 never filled me with confidence that it could easily last me a day. Same thing with standby mode. The pixel simply does not leak batter in standby. My note 8 always did, even after factory resets, even after using it on a factory reset with no apps used (as a test)
Camera - (The image processing is better on the Pixel Xl 2, than the Note 8 (opinion). However the Note 8 offers a dual lens setup, which is more convenient for people interested in zoom photography. (Fact))
The Note 8 does have the better camera setup - two cameras are better than one, hardware wise. When it comes to the images that come out of the phones though there is no comparison. The Pixel's image processing is out of this world. My cat was my test subject, and I took pictures of my cat in normal-lit environments with both phones. Samsung's processing made his fur look muddy on zoom. The Pixel had preserved 90% of the texture, as well as realistic colors. Portrait mode is also better with the pixel. Given how I almost never use the telezoom lens, I decided to stay with the Pixel (personal preference), but the fact is that picture quality from the Pixel is better.
Updates/Software version - (The Pixel blows anything else out of the water. Fact)
I care for such things, and once more there is no comparison. the Pixel gets updated far more frequently.
Things that the Note 8 just does better:
- Screen (Note 8 wins, hands down. Fact)
Here is where the note 8 obliterates the pixel. The pixel does suffer from rainbow effect (my unit not to an extreme), it does have a bit of banding tough nowhere near as bad as the V30 or previous generation OLED panels. The black smearing/smudging (whatever you call it, the fact that blacks smudge when you scroll), is there. First I saw it on the Pixel I was like - is this for real? I got used to it by now, but for people who do care about such things - stay away. In comparison, the Note 8 screen is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Bright, colorful, my unit had absolutely ZERO banding. There was a light red tint around the edges (Which I am guessing is due to the curved display), but nowhere near enough to be distracting. The Note 8 wins here, hands down.
- Build quality (Note 8 feels better int he hand - This is my opinion)
Both phones are well built, but the Note 8 is a class of its own. I prefer heavier phones (the Pixel feels a bit too light for me). Holding the note felt like you were holding onto a ton of technology in the most compact of packages. IT was a pleasure to hold. Personally, I don't feel the same for the Pixel but yet again - this comes down to personal preference.
- Tech/Pen (Note 8 packs far more tech. Fact)
I never much used the pen, so I can't comment on that. I won't deny though that the ability to keep notes on the fly is amazing. The Note 8 gives you that out of the box, and is a much better working tool than the Pixel or any phone. Useful in meetings, presentations, etc. Iris scanner was also useful, but I found myself using the fingerprint reader more in the end.
So why did I choose the Pixel XL 2? Well, the bits that the Pixel XL 2 does better were more important to me as a user, that's all. Mainly battery life, software version and camera (remember - I almost never used telezoom lenses in my photography life, but I always loved bokeh photography as well as street photography).
You can't go wrong with either phone. What you can do is tailor the choice on what fits -you- best personally.