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[INFO] For those worried about the camera....SII vs Nexus!

I've seen a lot of people complain about the camera on the Galaxy Nexus, people that had hoped the megapixels were higher like the SII. Well, to help put your worries to rest, check out all the pictures I took comparing the Nexus with the SII:
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-camera-test/
Let me know, if there's anything else you would like me to look into.

Megapixels DO NOT equal quality
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Evostance said:
Megapixels DO NOT equal quality
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Exactly my point, and something I try and explain in the article.

Evostance said:
Megapixels DO NOT equal quality
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Is that a response to the OP...he doesn't claim that they do. article even states "the question that should come into your mind is, which camera has better optics, not which camera has more Megapixels."

Which city are the pictures from?
Nearly forgot it, thanks for the good comparison.
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Good work!
Looks like the S2 gives more vibrant pictures but a bit unrealistic, seems it has more contrast too. Probably software related.
I think the Galaxy Nexus definitely focuses better from those shots (especially in macro mode) but perhaps isn't as good in low light, definitely more noisy and a bit more detail from the S2. Looks like some of that reason is that Nexus is choosing a higher ISO rating than the S2 in low light, meaning you can see more at the expense of noise.

Well one thing is clear, the SG II has a better camera (apart from night time shots).
Disappointing but oh well, I just wish my damn GN would turn up!

xdaman85 said:
I've seen a lot of people complain about the camera on the Galaxy Nexus, people that had hoped the megapixels were higher like the SII. Well, to help put your worries to rest, check out all the pictures I took comparing the Nexus with the SII:
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-camera-test/
Let me know, if there's anything else you would like me to look into.
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The galaxy s2 DO take panoramic pics out of the box. Please update your conclusion.
Based on the pics, my OPINION is that the galaxy s2 takes better pics in most conditions. However come night time and low light, the galaxy nexus takes better pics
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When the photos are viewed at the max size you can see that the SG2 has the much better camera. It's not even close, fantastic pics by the way op. Makes it extremely easy to see which phone takes better photos. That said the nexus would still be my choice since I own a DSLR and don't care for taking photos with my phone.

The photo of the fruits are day and night, complete difference on GSII. The majority of the pics looked better on GSII.
Its like having the NexusOne camera all over again.

fdm1 said:
Is that a response to the OP...he doesn't claim that they do. article even states "the question that should come into your mind is, which camera has better optics, not which camera has more Megapixels."
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No it was a statement that everyone needs drilled into them.
I looked at the article on my phone but it didnt format the names properly so I don't know which column was which phone.
I would have said the left hand column took the better photos purely because they had more colour
EDIT: Looks like the GSII wins. Nothing a bit of photoshop cant fix if your that bothered though lol

bimmerboii said:
The galaxy s2 DO take panoramic pics out of the box. Please update your conclusion.
Based on the pics, my OPINION is that the galaxy s2 takes better pics in most conditions. However come night time and low light, the galaxy nexus takes better pics
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Ooops Looks like you're right, the Galaxy SII can take panoramic pictures, haven't noticed that before lol. I'm amending the article now, thanks.

Nebucatnetzer said:
Which city are the pictures from?
Nearly forgot it, thanks for the good comparison.
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The pictures were taken in London.

the GSII pictures have slightly better colors, but that seems to be the only advantage.

stop kidding yourself guys! there's no way the nexus has the better camera
in all the daylight pics, the SII is sharper, more realistic in colour, and much more like a real digicam...the nexus doesn't seem to be able to focus, the edges in the images are mainly quite blurry (could be a result of the quick shutter)
that aside, it does do much better at taking night shots!
Thanks OP for the comparison shots!

rashad1 said:
the GSII pictures have slightly better colors, but that seems to be the only advantage.
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I completely agree that the colours on the SII look better, but the thing is, it looks better than real life. It's vibrant but too vibrant compared to the subject as it was at the time.

Looks like the classic "oversaturated colors" problem when doing comparisons is rearing its head in this thread.
That is, inaccurate but oversaturated colors looks better compared to a more accurate color image.

uL7iMa said:
stop kidding yourself guys! there's no way the nexus has the better camera
in all the daylight pics, the SII is sharper, more realistic in colour, and much more like a real digicam...the nexus doesn't seem to be able to focus, the edges in the images are mainly quite blurry (could be a result of the quick shutter)
that aside, it does do much better at taking night shots!
Thanks OP for the comparison shots!
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You're welcome mate.

What about the picture of text that the sII is completely blurry?
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tbh i dun really care about a camera. its all bout aesthetics of phone and ics

[Q] Camera quality question

Since the Nexus doesn't have a Q&A section i have a question about the camera before i get one. I am coming from an iPhone 4 and to upgrade from my contract (with 21 months left) it will cost me $300-ish hopefully. Now I have seen reviews comparing the GNEX's camera to the iPhone 4S but nothing to the 4. Now i know it's only 5Mp like the iPhone but what is the quality between the two. Is it about equal to the iPhone 4's or is it worse and such. This is my only major complaint about the device (based on what i heard) i can live with the lack on SD (i've put up with it already with my iPhone)

Dark lord me said:
Since the Nexus doesn't have a Q&A section i have a question about the camera before i get one. I am coming from an iPhone 4 and to upgrade from my contract (with 21 months left) it will cost me $300-ish hopefully. Now I have seen reviews comparing the GNEX's camera to the iPhone 4S but nothing to the 4. Now i know it's only 5Mp like the iPhone but what is the quality between the two. Is it about equal to the iPhone 4's or is it worse and such. This is my only major complaint about the device (based on what i heard) i can live with the lack on SD (i've put up with it already with my iPhone)
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Coming from an Iphone 4 and a Galaxy S2 i'd place the nexus behind the other 2.
Its not awful but i can certainly notice the quality difference.

Like would you say it's a big difference or is more minor

The GS2 is better for sure but the Nexus is much better in low light shots.
Here is a comparison of the GS2 and Nexus, as I said it is better but the Nexus is no slouch.
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-camera-test/

Coming form a galaxy s ii the quality of the camera in the galaxy nexus is... horrible , i'm pissed at google, why didnt they use the same camera module as the galaxy s ii? i can only think of one thing: MARKETING , they want us to upgrade and buy the galaxy s iii , they don't want to build a perfect phone

Chad_Petree said:
Coming form a galaxy s ii the quality of the camera in the galaxy nexus is... horrible , i'm pissed at google, why didnt they use the same camera module as the galaxy s ii? i can only think of one thing: MARKETING , they want us to upgrade and buy the galaxy s iii , they can't build a perfect phone
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.. maybe they don't want to build the perfect phone. ... hmmm

Jabbypants said:
The GS2 is better for sure but the Nexus is much better in low light shots.
Here is a comparison of the GS2 and Nexus, as I said it is better but the Nexus is no slouch.
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-camera-test/
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This guy's conclusion paragraph is hilarious. The Galaxy S2 is clearly the winner here. The daytime shots are much more vibrant and sharp, the macro shots might have a slight edge on the Galaxy Nexus, and the night shots are just a result of the software dialing the ISO way up producing a clearer but super noisy picture. If you crank up the ISO manually on the S2 you'll probably get similar results at night.
I won't even talk about the flash shots. Both were horrible like phones generally are.

the best camera is the one you have on you
it may be behind the S2 in terms of quality, but you've more chance of getting a better shot due to the zero lag, S2 users cannot guarantee when their phone will take the shot, with the nexus I've got some great shots that needed to be taken as soon as I hit the button!

A question about video recording.
When i choose 1080p over 720p i see a lot of Wavy Lines in the screen....anyone else?
As for the camera shots its just fine for me. No complaints and the heavy flash is perfect.

DJTaurus said:
A question about video recording.
When i choose 1080p over 720p i see a lot of Wavy Lines in the screen....anyone else?
As for the camera shots its just fine for me. No complaints and the heavy flash is perfect.
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it was my sons 2nd birthday the other day, I spent a good few hours filming in 1080p and saw nothing like I'm afraid, is it there on playback?
is it the things you're filming that look "wavy"? (rolling shutter)
btw, filming in 1080 for so long (including using the light when indoors) and my battery was still at 40% by the end of the day!

mmace said:
it was my sons 2nd birthday the other day, I spent a good few hours filming in 1080p and saw nothing like I'm afraid, is it there on playback?
is it the things you're filming that look "wavy"? (rolling shutter)
btw, filming in 1080 for so long (including using the light when indoors) and my battery was still at 40% by the end of the day!
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Lol its just fine. The waves where when i was recording sth in my TV Screen...f stupid i am

In my opinion the galaxy nexus was more accurate with colour and the night shots were night and day difference (pun intended)
Maybe the s2 would produce better enlargements but the nexus has the better camera imo
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ChongoDroid said:
In my opinion the galaxy nexus was more accurate with colour and the night shots were night and day difference (pun intended)
Maybe the s2 would produce better enlargements but the nexus has the better camera imo
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I agree with the night shots, but my day shots are horrible. All washed out.
My front facing camera produces better day shots, its as if they were switched around or the back one takes in too much light

Is there any particular reason why they went with a 5MP camera? I know MPs aren't everything, but I ask because a lot of reviews are pointing to the now-below-high-end-standard megapixel camera as the culprit of the average camera.
Just wondering why Samsung didn't offer at least 8. Did they make any public statement about the reasoning? Does it have something to do with the super quick shutter?

muziqman said:
.. maybe they don't want to build the perfect phone. ... hmmm
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Exactly my poin they dont WANT to, so we'll continue "upgrading"

[Q] Camera Question

I was messing with a Galaxy 2 today, and noticed that it had a 8mp camera on it. I thought the quality of the pictures were also really nice. How does the Nexus's camera compare to the one that is on the galaxy 2? Also, why would the downgrade the camera? I know that mega pixels isn't everything when it comes to pictures, but is the nexus 5mp camera better somehow that the 8mp that comes on other recent devices?
Thanks

Unfortunately there is nothing special about the 5mp camera on the nexus.

I can't speak for the galaxy s2, but coming from a Droid 1 which also has a 5mp camera I can say the nexus completely blows it away, very sharp too. Same MP, big difference. There are many discussions on what makes a 8mp camera suck and say, a 5mp be better, ill avoid that road but say it is more than just MP!
And as a second thought, its a phone! The nexus camera is more than adequate, and if you really need top quality, buy a real camera
Galaxy Nexus Bugless Beast 4.0.3 cdma

While there is more than MP the best unfortunate truth is that most high end phones have better sensors AND more MP
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I'm not 100% sure but I believe megapixel has to do with the size of the photo?
Quality of the camera doesn't really depend on the megapixel.
Despite saying that, the galaxy nexus camera isn't that good. The software is ok but I think its worse then my 5megapixel camera that used to be on my galaxy s captivate.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just my thoughts.
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my old htc Dinc got a 8mp camera, to compare the both, i dont see any differences beside the GNex came are godly fast.

I can coax better shots out of my Dinc...
That and stock software takes terrible shots, not even at the expense of speed, just poor decisions in noise reduction.
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I wonder if they choose to use a smaller sensor to keep the camera so fast. Maybe the larger sensors weren't performing as well speed wise. But I agree others, it isn't the best out there.

zeke1988 said:
my old htc Dinc got a 8mp camera, to compare the both, i dont see any differences beside the GNex came are godly fast.
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staticx57 said:
I can coax better shots out of my Dinc...
That and stock software takes terrible shots, not even at the expense of speed, just poor decisions in noise reduction.
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bummer. the camera is one of the main deciding factors for me. i'll be upgrading from a Dinc, and while it served me well the past two years, I really would like to upgrade to a better phone cam, since the Dinc's cam is terrible at low light situations and can overexpose at outdoors. the flash on it is terrible also, being overly bright, which just washes out the photo. do i have another option in verizon, or is the iphone 4s my only other option? my upgrade is due now by the way. thanks.

MP is just the size of the photos. How good a camera is has a lot more to do with just the MP count. However, MP count does play an important role in phone photography. 99% of the phone camera lenses have no optical zoom. All the "zoom" are digital zoom, which just means cropping and enlarging the original picture. In this case, all else equal, the higher the MP, the better the "zoomed" result. Moreover, and very unfortunately, MP count aside, the lens and the sensor on the Galaxy Nexus are pretty poor.

The camera isn't amazing, but I would definitely not suggest anything but the GNex since it's all round just a perfect phone, you'll regret not getting it IMO.

radiohead14 said:
bummer. the camera is one of the main deciding factors for me. i'll be upgrading from a Dinc, and while it served me well the past two years, I really would like to upgrade to a better phone cam, since the Dinc's cam is terrible at low light situations and can overexpose at outdoors. the flash on it is terrible also, being overly bright, which just washes out the photo. do i have another option in verizon, or is the iphone 4s my only other option? my upgrade is due now by the way. thanks.
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If I were you on verizon I would get the Rezound. It has a really nice camera compared to the Gnex and it also has a 1280x720 screen and even a more powerful GPU (but not CPU). I had it before I switched it for my gnex but I can't stand not having an AMOLED screen otherwise id still have that phone.

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If I were you on verizon I would get the Rezound. It has a really nice camera compared to the Gnex and it also has a 1280x720 screen and even a more powerful GPU (but not CPU). I had it before I switched it for my gnex but I can't stand not having an AMOLED screen otherwise id still have that phone.
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yea i was trying out that phone in store. it's a bit of a brick though, and i wasn't impressed with the screen as well. any other ones coming out soon that i should wait for? will verizon get the galaxy S3?

Im impressed with the GNex cam. I do a lot of custom paint and mostly metallics so i like to take very close pics and they always come out great

[Q] Camera disimprovements 4.0.4

Hello,
I updated my Galaxy Nexus manually with the "official" Rom, but since I got android 4.0.4 my camera does have shutter lag instead of android 4.0.2. Is this normal, or did I download the wrong Rom he he?
Thanks in advance
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I'm experiencing the same exact problem. I loved the 0 shutter lag and desperately need it back. Can anyone please help? Or share some way to fix this problem? Thanks ahead

0 shutter lag has been reduced to get better focus image
a well focused images is better, even if it need a bit more time to take the pic
stop complaining for everything

andQlimax said:
0 shutter lag has been reduced to get better focus image
a well focused images is better, even if it need a bit more time to take the pic
stop complaining for everything
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I can't wait till I get 4.0.4. That's one thing I've found with my galaxy nexus, 90% of my photos turn out ever so slightly blurred

Matt08642 said:
I can't wait till I get 4.0.4. That's one thing I've found with my galaxy nexus, 90% of my photos turn out ever so slightly blurred
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manually flash it. and i agree, whats the point in 0 shutter if all the pictures are going to come out not focused and not clear?
i rather have a more stable camera with better picture quality.
quality over quantity

Now that you mention it, I think my pictures are a tiny bit better on 4.0.4 (Verizon version). Might just be the placebo effect...

zephiK said:
manually flash it. and i agree, whats the point in 0 shutter if all the pictures are going to come out not focused and not clear?
i rather have a more stable camera with better picture quality.
quality over quantity
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I'm still a little iffy about manual flashing. I have the yakjuux version and I don't know if flashing to 4.0.4 yakju will screw anything up

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I'm still a little iffy about manual flashing. I have the yakjuux version and I don't know if flashing to 4.0.4 yakju will screw anything up
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It won't. You'll just lose all of your data.

andQlimax said:
0 shutter lag has been reduced to get better focus image
a well focused images is better, even if it need a bit more time to take the pic
stop complaining for everything
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Excuse me? Complaining about everything? I just noticed the difference and that's why I asked.
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well, if you cant complain then ill do it for you, I wouldnt mind having the lag taken away BUT this was a feature, and if the feature didnt work, then its not a feature, so when I was excited about the phone last year, and I heard it was 5mp, I was let down, but then I was sold on 0 shutter lag, now the lag is back so we might have not even talked about the camera last year like it was special.
you cant sell a 1000hp car, first in the market, then after 3 months recall them to govern the engine to 750hp and still get credit for being a ground breaking car, so why should i give any credit to nexus for doing something special with the camera.
I used the time lapse feature today, what a JOKE! you need it propped up, and put it in airplane mode so that a text wont ruin your video, the screen stays on the whole time, you cant turn it off, and the smallest increment is 1 second, i washed dishes for a couple hours and had a 3 minute video that was a pain to watch because there was a window in the room that the camera adjusted for and me the focus was all dark.
I do like the built in photo editing, and the use of facial recognition, but when i saw the nexus get demolished by the one x, i cried, and now with 4.0.4 lagging more just to be a usable 5 mp camera, i think owners have the right to complain that a front page feature has been toned down for stability. though ultimately we want better pictures.

Focus once, don't move, take pictures in a bright area = insta pics.
I take them all the time.
Could you imagine how many EXTRA complaints there would be if it never focused?

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well, if you cant complain then ill do it for you, I wouldnt mind having the lag taken away BUT this was a feature, and if the feature didnt work, then its not a feature, so when I was excited about the phone last year, and I heard it was 5mp, I was let down, but then I was sold on 0 shutter lag, now the lag is back so we might have not even talked about the camera last year like it was special.
you cant sell a 1000hp car, first in the market, then after 3 months recall them to govern the engine to 750hp and still get credit for being a ground breaking car, so why should i give any credit to nexus for doing something special with the camera.
I used the time lapse feature today, what a JOKE! you need it propped up, and put it in airplane mode so that a text wont ruin your video, the screen stays on the whole time, you cant turn it off, and the smallest increment is 1 second, i washed dishes for a couple hours and had a 3 minute video that was a pain to watch because there was a window in the room that the camera adjusted for and me the focus was all dark.
I do like the built in photo editing, and the use of facial recognition, but when i saw the nexus get demolished by the one x, i cried, and now with 4.0.4 lagging more just to be a usable 5 mp camera, i think owners have the right to complain that a front page feature has been toned down for stability. though ultimately we want better pictures.
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Get a camera. All that stress and wringing of hands is now gone. Don't you feel better?

adrynalyne said:
Focus once, don't move, take pictures in a bright area = insta pics.
I take them all the time.
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This exactly. I take a lot of pictures of moving objects (my kids). Pre 4.0.4 they were *terrible*. They were so poor I bought an Xperia S for the camera. Post 4.0.4 they are now clear and of great quality (on par with the 12MP camera in the Xperia S which is no slouch). Let it focus and snap away. Move, refocus, repeat.

If you are rubbish photographer/videographer why blame the camera?
Like - I pointed camera at a window and everything else was dark. Doh.

Actually i was very disappointed with the camera i was like 5mp bullsh... Even my old 2mp blackberry bold camera took better pictures, with this 5mp crap camera i could not take a single good picture, im not a big fan of taking pictures so i just nevermind it, after reading they improved the camera i tried and damn, all my pictures looks awesome now
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msedek said:
Actually i was very disappointed with the camera i was like 5mp bullsh... Even my old 2mp blackberry bold camera took better pictures, with this 5mp crap camera i could not take a single good picture, im not a big fan of taking pictures so i just nevermind it, after reading they improved the camera i tried and damn, all my pictures looks awesome now
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Your 2MP BB Bold took better pictures before, and it now it takes amazing pictures?
Sounds reasonable to me!
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LOL some of these arguments are just ridiculous.

Dice62 said:
Your 2MP BB Bold took better pictures before, and it now it takes amazing pictures?
Sounds reasonable to me!
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Few words to smart People, i managed to take better pictures with my bb bold's 2mp camera before Google would upgrade the 5mp camera system on the gnexus. Is it clear for you now?
P.S: on a side note, Wonder why is there TROLLS everywhere
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msedek said:
P.S: on a side note, Wonder why is there TROLLS everywhere
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Are you asking yourself this question?

adrynalyne said:
Are you asking yourself this question?
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Yes sir
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[Q] Improving Camera quality

Hi, I bought a Galaxy Nexus on august and it is a really good device, the only thing that I dont like about it is the quality of the pictures of its camera, is it just me or this device has a relly crappy camera?
Have any of you tried to improve its quality using the GNtoolkit or any other method?
If so, please advice...
Thank you very much

Lol the toolkit? really?
The camera performs poorly in low light, and nothing is really going to fix that except... more light. In well lit and composed pictures, the camera has the capability to produce good pictures. They turn out pretty well. This camera isn't the best, but isn't nearly as bad as people like to think. Just check out some of the pictures in the General section. Lots of great stuff in there. It's not impossible to take good pictures with the GNex.
Most issues with the camera can be attributed to the photographer, not the device. There are many camera apps that can help you achieve different affects with your camera (like HDR, scene modes and editing), and there are even some in the stock Gallery.

Don't use the 'zoom'
Beamed from my Grouper.

The best apps that I think produce good quality pics with the Gnex camera are Vignette and HDR Camera+. Honestly I don't ever use the stock camera because I feel they produce the worst pics.

I mentioned the toolkit because I saw an option there, so... Im pretty ****ed right? LOL

donchele said:
Hi, I bought a Galaxy Nexus on august and it is a really good device, the only thing that I dont like about it is the quality of the pictures of its camera, is it just me or this device has a relly crappy camera?
Have any of you tried to improve its quality using the GNtoolkit or any other method?
If so, please advice...
Thank you very much
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the camera is awesome. you probably need to learn how to use it correctly.

I think it is pretty decent. Again I don't compare pics with other phone because missing a few pixels isn't going to make huge difference.
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Beats, and I mean beats the **** out of my Thunderbolt's 8MP camera. Low light, lots of light, magic, doesn't matter, Nexus wins every time.
Magic doesn't exist, just making my sanity clear.
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I have found that the gnexus camera out performs my HTC sensation , lumia 800 iPhone 4s when it comes to low light pictures. They come out a lot less blurred and precise than the other phones. Day photos are perfectly good for a mobile phone. Want an amazing camera buy a SLR , Facebook photos it does just fine
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