Does anyone know how to disable the "Ok Google" 'toast-like' message on the 360? This happens when I turn my wrist to look at the time and Ambient Mode is On. It comes on for a couple of seconds then it goes away...annoying...
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I'm pretty sure that after you use the voice command a few times it will go way automatically.
Slack3r said:
I'm pretty sure that after you use the voice command a few times it will go way automatically.
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I've tried that thinking the same thing but no luck so far
Looking for how to do the same I found this thread from September, but the curious thing is that I've never had that before just until this week, after the update.
It's annoying but more than that I'm frustrated because there is simply no more threads or information but this one and according to the activity of it, it seems that or this was fixed already or simply the OP gave up on trying to fix it.
Anybody else with this annoying new thing or is there really is a fix that I simply can't ? Thanks.
Every time it pops up say "ok google" to it, then dismiss the screen. It will happen 5 times or so and then stop doing it.
Steve-x said:
Every time it pops up say "ok google" to it, then dismiss the screen. It will happen 5 times or so and then stop doing it.
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Thanks for your help but I'm lost, when you say that I need to dismiss the message, the problem is that it's not a Card that you can dismiss, it pops up when the phone awakes and it's there for about 5 seconds and then it goes, but in those seconds, How am I suppose to dismiss it?, I mean, I tried the normal swipe to left, right, up and down but nothing does the trick, at least not dismissing the message, I've tried it about a dozens of times and every time it comes back. Even the pull down that mutes the notifications doesn't fix it, it's still appears
Tap screen once so that you see 'Talk now' and from there swipe to the right. Do that 5 times consecutively and you're a member of the land of the free again.
Oskar-2 said:
Tap screen once so that you see 'Talk now' and from there swipe to the right. Do that 5 times consecutively and you're a member of the land of the free again.
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Tried that with 5 times, nothing, then about 8, then 15 times and still the same...
I don't know man, it's very weird, have the watch since it was released and this is the first time with this issue and the one that seems to not go away.
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OK, I just remembered that besides applying the latest update, the only thing I did was download and applied a new Facer's face and I've been using it since then, so I just went to Facer and selected the first one I saw and applied and there was no more Ok Google message, thinking that it was the Face that I was using until now, I just put it back, and for my surprise, no more Ok Google Message.
So, what happens when i switched to this face a couple of days back? I don't have a clue, but I didn't think that it was the face as I decided to reset the watch last night, and after pairing it and installing facer and applying the face there was the same issue back, so it was obvious for me, or at least I thought so, that it was something with the update.
Anyway, I just want to let you all know that may have or may encounter this in the future that instead of just wasting time looking for a fix, just switch the face and see if it fixes it.
Thanks.
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Tried that with 5 times, nothing, then about 8, then 15 times and still the same...
I don't know man, it's very weird, have the watch since it was released and this is the first time with this issue and the one that seems to not go away.
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OK, I just remembered that besides applying the latest update, the only thing I did was download and applied a new Facer's face and I've been using it since then, so I just went to Facer and selected the first one I saw and applied and there was no more Ok Google message, thinking that it was the Face that I was using until now, I just put it back, and for my surprise, no more Ok Google Message.
So, what happens when i switched to this face a couple of days back? I don't have a clue, but I didn't think that it was the face as I decided to reset the watch last night, and after pairing it and installing facer and applying the face there was the same issue back, so it was obvious for me, or at least I thought so, that it was something with the update.
Anyway, I just want to let you all know that may have or may encounter this in the future that instead of just wasting time looking for a fix, just switch the face and see if it fixes it.
Thanks.
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i've validated that the above method works. since this seems to be such a hot topic, and so difficult to understand/troubleshoot, i went ahead and made a video. enjoy.
(warning - apparently i talk like i have a mouth full of marbles when saying "OK Google")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7uPqO-X1iw
cliffs: it takes about 5 "Ok Googles" for the message to go away.
640k said:
i've validated that the above method works. since this seems to be such a hot topic, and so difficult to understand/troubleshoot, i went ahead and made a video. enjoy.
(warning - apparently i talk like i have a mouth full of marbles when saying "OK Google")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7uPqO-X1iw&list=UUe6qhXZF4u75aROilm0DsHQ
cliffs: it takes about 5 "Ok Googles" for the message to go away.
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That's what I did 3 different tests, first with 5, then with 8 and the last time with 15 times, and it was still there, nothing worked until I changed the Watch Face, very weird indeed.
erasat said:
That's what I did 3 different tests, first with 5, then with 8 and the last time with 15 times, and it was still there, nothing worked until I changed the Watch Face, very weird indeed.
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that's probably the third or fourth time i've done that. i literally just reset my device and recorded that video.
640k said:
i've validated that the above method works. since this seems to be such a hot topic, and so difficult to understand/troubleshoot, i went ahead and made a video. enjoy.
(warning - apparently i talk like i have a mouth full of marbles when saying "OK Google")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7uPqO-X1iw
cliffs: it takes about 5 "Ok Googles" for the message to go away.
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hi.
thanks - i couldn't get it to work but i just played your video and my watch did what i wanted
i thought i pronounced it right but the watch seems a bit *****y about "ok google"
but now it's gone. phew
merry christmas
I have a speech issue and cannot say "OK google" even once - is there another way to get rid of this ?
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I have a speech issue and cannot say "OK google" even once - is there another way to get rid of this ?
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Use TTS from Google Translate.
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I hate hate hate hate hate voice recognition services. The first thing I did with my Moto 360 was replace launchers and remove as much reliance on them as possible. Now that voice recognition is not needed to operate my watch at all I want to basically remove all ok google functionality, I am ok with disabling my mic on the watch, however every time I ask everyone goes "WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT".
The fact is I do not ever intend on using the voice recognition for anything. This is a very nice watch with notifications I will not be attempting to answer emails or text except for quick reply's available on the watch such as "driving" "Ok" "See you soon" etc. This is a WATCH first and a companion device second, the biggest boon was I love to change my watch faces and with a program like Watchmaker I can essentially have a new watch every day if I choose!
I would also like to disable the fact that every time i tap the watch faces it opens the default launcher, more intuitive behavior would be tap to keep on double tap to launch launcher.
So if someone could please tell me how to either mute the mic or disable it all together since I cant seem to remove ok google hotword triggers.
I bought the watch to design faces like this one I made:
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cant be done on stock software
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cant be done on stock software
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Thats ok I am a developer, already made the debug cable for the device to be hooked up via USB adb instead of BT adb. If there is a way and your aware it would be much appreciated, cant stand voice control I disable it on everything I can!
I haven't rooted the watch yet but if I have to I have no issue with it, my day job is basically working with the back end of embedded linux systems re-flashing Nand and troubleshoot software issues so I am pretty comfortable diving in, I just don't root unless I need to.
Thanks again
Bump....I am tempted to just open this thing up and actually cut the wires for the mic. If anyone has a easy solution to stopping always on mic that keeps listening that would be great.
I do not want a Mic on my watch I am not from star trek and it has ultimately proved to be more of a annoyance and privacy concern then added functionality.
Thanks again
If you're a "developer" you should know the difficulties in doing things that are contrary to basic functionality. I'm sorry, but if you want to do the things you say you want to do, you're really going to have to get your hands dirty and hack the firmware that runs on the watch, which as far as I know is not open source. Or hope someone develops a smart watch that does the things you want.
This is exactly what I bought my moto 360 for. I do not need all those functions except to change the watch face. That is what a watch for. I bought this watch a week ago and still not much time to play with it yet.
I'm not a big fan of the 360 software either. Hoping to see improvement in several areas. But to expect this is a "watch first and a companion device second" is like saying that a smartphone is a phone first and foremost. It's just not true anymore. I would argue that the majority of smartphone owners spend more time using their smartphone for email, games, web browsing, and taking pictures compared to the amount of time they actually use it as a phone. Personally I see the same in this new world of smartwatches. Google doesn't care if you use it as a watch. The battery can't even make it through a day with the watch face on all the time. They want you to use it to receive notifications and to even reply to messages without touching your phone. They want you to use navigation, fitness tracking, and even music control and playback all from your wrist, to take notes with Google Keep, locate your phone when it's under a couch cushion, monitor your heart rate, etc. Personally I think the verdict is still out for how useful any of this stuff really is (especially what Google Now thinks you might be interested in.....notification spam), but if you're looking for a really good watch then I don't think a 360 is for you. Find one with a better display, and maybe one that can at least keep the time showing all day long.
Also, before you open it up and assume there are "wires" connecting the microphones, I would take a look here:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola+Moto+360+Teardown/28891
Why is... *not saying* OK Google a solution to this tragedy XD
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Wish i could turn this off also .... Always does random searches while im talking
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deadgiveaway said:
Wish i could turn this off also .... Always does random searches while im talking
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The words "OK Google" come up in conversation that often?
thebobmannh said:
The words "OK Google" come up in conversation that often?
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No, probably not for most people. So I guess you bring up a good point. Since we don't say "ok google" very much and the watch thinks we do, this is proof that its voice detection reliability should be improved. This is one of the reasons why I turned off "tilt to wake".
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The words "OK Google" come up in conversation that often?
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Not even lol , thats the problem ...way to sensitive ...opens when i say anything ...or from tv shows .....
Ive never even said okay google ...
I prefer okay noodle
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This watch CAN make it through a full day with the screen on no problem. Im running ambient mode.
Ways voice activation activates:
- touch the watch face(Happens more then you think when your not trying to)
- Ok Google hot word
- Any slight alteration such as OK lets go(my bane word)
I don't even want the app launcher that comes with it. LOVE android watches HATE voice control always have. I am always listening to music/podcast and it just messes with that. I put in replacements for touch actions for everything so that is never more then 1 swipe and a key press away. My watch face i designed has hot spot key presses on it to go where I want with out ever swiping off the home-screen. I am not rooted yet since I didn't want to void warranty but I really hate this mic so I may have to.
To those triggering mic to much my solution to limit it was a invisible image 3 layer deep over the whole watch face. it takes 2-3 repeated taps on my watch face to cause the voice control to activate stops a lot of my accidental taps. I believe it isn't OK Google sensitivity that is the problem its that any time you touch the watch face while its on it doesn't mater if you said OK Google.
I use Watchmaker to make my faces, Id be more then willing to share the current watch later when I get home from work, let me know if anyone is interested.
Any update on a method to mute/disable mic or just OK google? I am still fishing around for a way to do this with out rooting if possible.
Mute wear mic on the play store sort of half does this currently in 5.1.1 it still responds to Ok Google but after that it will not pick up anything.
Thanks,
Things i currently have had to limit the always listening capabilities.
- My phone
- My watch
- My gaming consoles
- My TV
- My computers
Am I the only one who really doesn't like voice control, and especially "always listening" devices?
Honest off topic question:
Why is everyone so ok with letting these devices literally pick up everything and send it to some unknown server to verify the recording doesn't contain "the keyword to trigger"?
My mindset is if they can search for a keyword they can search for anything and they have everything. From the joke you said that sounds so wrong out of context to anything else this is stuff that could ruin anyone's life with PC Police and media the way it is today!
Maybe freezing specific app via titanium backup could help.
You could fill the mic hole with epoxy or some kind of glue perhaps?
potentially a permanent solution.. but it'd probably work.
I am still under warranty so I am trying to limit it to software changes that can be reversed easily or wont flag a void of warranty.
I was thinking epoxy route or similar. What I would really like to do once my warranty is a combo of that and a mute/disable via hardware to assure.
You could probably gently drip nail varnish across the mic hole.. with a hole that small, surface tension will normally make it seal the hole without running into it, and therefore not stick to the mic as it doesn't get that far in.. you'd almost certainly be able to pick it out/off with a toothpick/pin if you ever needed too.
Probably not as good as the epoxy at stopping the mic working, but its likely to mute it enough that it wont pick up any words and therefore not invoke OK google.
Cant see how they would ever know if you picked it off if you ever needed to return it.
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Honest off topic question:
Why is everyone so ok with letting these devices literally pick up everything and send it to some unknown server to verify the recording doesn't contain "the keyword to trigger"?
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Mostly because that's not the way they work. If always-listening devices were sending all sounds to some external server you'd have a constant stream of audio being sent out, and that's juts not the case. Keyword verification is done on-device, while other voice stuff is done externally (typically) after the keyword is triggered.
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Mostly because that's not the way they work. If always-listening devices were sending all sounds to some external server you'd have a constant stream of audio being sent out, and that's juts not the case. Keyword verification is done on-device, while other voice stuff is done externally (typically) after the keyword is triggered.
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I am aware how they are supposed to work, as a software developer that doesn't mean they WILL work that way. Its been proven that this data does end up getting transferred to servers at times(See Samsung smart TV issue a few months back), and that at any point a proper update can enable it so all of it gets sent up or similar.
I just don't like having ANY mics/camera enabled unless they are needed. Even my phone mic is muted unless it needs to be on.
I am that guy that since 15yrs old I have had all my ID cards and CC in what amounts to a faraday case to give you a idea. Nothing to hide I just like my rights!
Its been more than 2 weeks since I have this S6 Edge+ and so far, I love the design and software. There is no lag so far, no matter which application/game I threw at it... However, from time to time, I have encountered quite a few bugs in the device which I would mention below. It would be helpful if somebody else too confirms that they have witnessed these. Actually all of them went away with a normal restart, so I have my doubts if any of you have noticed any so far...
So, here's the list:-
1. First time when I connected my phone via USB to my PC, I selected MTP (The option appears when you connect the USB cable to a PC) and I was unable to browse through any of the files. That was weird because once I selected Camera (PTP), I was able to see all the files. I tried again with MTP and it was same, so I just continued with PTP instead to copy the files I needed to.
After that day, I didn't connect my USB until today and it worked just fine today (I was able to see files through MTP). Although I have restarted my phone several times between then and now, so not sure what fixed it or broke it in the first place.
2. A couple of days back (probably last Friday), I was watching a video on facebook browser and I turned the phone to landscape mode. However, the video or the browser didn't turn. I thought it could be due to any facebook app issue, so I switched to normal browser (Open in Chrome option) and yet again the browser won't tilt. I closed it and opened the official YouTube app and tried a video and strangely that didn't work either. At this point, I was mad. I tried all other apps, nothing was working. I did try turning Auto-Tilt on/off several times during this but nothing worked. I just restarted my phone as a last resort and it started working just fine. Didn't have any issue till date.
3. I use CloudMagic app for my corporate email. Yesterday when I received a mail, I just got a notification on lock screen. I swiped it away. Later, when I unlocked the phone, I saw that there was still a notification from the app. When I dragged down the notification bar, I saw that there is a blank space left for the notification and the other notifications are displayed after that blank space. And no matter what I did or try, the notification simply wouldn't go away. I even selected CloudMagic from Application Manager and selected Force Stop which should have practically stopped everything related to that app but the notification still didn't go. So, I'm assuming this is not application issue, this could be some notification manager issue with S6E+. Here's a screen cap from that day:-
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4. This one happened today and it was quite irritating too. I went to Developer Options -> Animator duration scale -> Animation scale 10x. After this, you would realize that all the animations would become very slow. You can try tapping on Recent button and see all the recent apps open up at slo-mo. I did that to beat the Android Lollipop Easter Egg game. After that, when I changed it back to 0.5x or 1x, the Animation rate wouldn't change. I tried doing it couple of times. Tried turning off Developer Options and turning back on but it didn't work. The animations were so slow for every application till I restarted the phone. After restart though, it worked fine.
5. Well, this one isn't a bug I'm sure but this isn't curable using a restart. The screen of the Edge+ is highly sensitive, so even if I tap to touch, sometimes it just registers the touch as touch n hold and hence the tap action isn't performed. This is visible in games like "Clash of Clans" where I would have to click multiple times on Resource Generators (Gold Mine & Elixir Mine) to take out the generated deposit when the zoom level is at minimum. I've seen another post from a user who reported the same issue. Game just happened to be one of the examples to witness this issue.
I'm not really annoyed with any of the above bugs and given the chance, I would still buy the S6 Edge+. I can even live with all the above bugs (if they are bugs at all), as long as they're fixed with a restart.
Just want to know if you guys had any of such issues yet ? or may be noticed some other bug in the system yet ?
Hi.
I've been using the Edge Plus for about 5 days and the only bug that happened to me was the blank notification, I solved it myself by restarting the phone, it is important to mention that this only happened once.
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alex_mx said:
Hi.
I've been using the Edge Plus for about 5 days and the only bug that happened to me was the blank notification, I solved it myself by restarting the phone, it is important to mention that this only happened once.
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I know, it happened only once for me too. However, its been just 2 weeks since the phone has released, which isn't a very long time to see this issue repeating. Let's hope it doesn't.
I have the phone for 2½ weeks now and what I have noticed is that sometimes it will not awake from deep sleep so screen will remain blank even though I have pressed the home button and then action will be initiated after sometime.. Don't know why but sometimes just happens, maybe once a day during last week.. All apps I have installed are the ones I always using and none of them is like non trusted etc
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I have the phone for 2½ weeks now and what I have noticed is that sometimes it will not awake from deep sleep so screen will remain blank even though I have pressed the home button and then action will be initiated after sometime.. Don't know why but sometimes just happens, maybe once a day during last week.. All apps I have installed are the ones I always using and none of them is like non trusted etc
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This happened once to me too... But never again!
I'm having a really annoying "bug" or im doing something wrong, my apps are ordered by "alphabetic" but if i uninstall an app the app's on the second page for example don't "move" to the free slot, i have to go and order to re-order everything again....
I'm doing something wrong?
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I'm having a really annoying "bug" or im doing something wrong, my apps are ordered by "alphabetic" but if i uninstall an app the app's on the second page for example don't "move" to the free slot, i have to go and order to re-order everything again....
I'm doing something wrong?
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That's just how the phone works, you gotta re order the apps every time you install a new one!
Dvanzutphenkann said:
That's just how the phone works, you gotta re order the apps every time you install a new one!
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quit frustrating i must say :s but ho well
Love mine! But I have two things. Every now and then when I turn the screen on the phone freezes for like 7 seconds or so. It doesn't bother me that much since it only happens once every other day.
The second thing is that when I connect my phone to via Bluetooth to my cars audios yster to listen to music. Everything is studdering and lagging so bad I can't listen to it. Then I need to disconnect and reconnect a few times and if I'm lucky it will work. Today though I connected (and it was bad) but then I used the smart cleaning app on the phone and after that it worked fine for the rest of my trip. Might be some cache from some app that's causing this. I'm going to try to use the smart cleaning app a few days in a row now when I'm connecting the phone to see if that helps, I hope so.
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Love mine! But I have two things. Every now and then when I turn the screen on the phone freezes for like 7 seconds or so. It doesn't bother me that much since it only happens once every other day.
The second thing is that when I connect my phone to via Bluetooth to my cars audios yster to listen to music. Everything is studdering and lagging so bad I can't listen to it. Then I need to disconnect and reconnect a few times and if I'm lucky it will work. Today though I connected (and it was bad) but then I used the smart cleaning app on the phone and after that it worked fine for the rest of my trip. Might be some cache from some app that's causing this. I'm going to try to use the smart cleaning app a few days in a row now when I'm connecting the phone to see if that helps, I hope so.
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These sound worse than what I mentioned above. Luckily never happened with me, otherwise I probably would have got it replaced by now.
mines froze couple of times to?
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cellem said:
I have the phone for 2½ weeks now and what I have noticed is that sometimes it will not awake from deep sleep so screen will remain blank even though I have pressed the home button and then action will be initiated after sometime..
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This.
And mine keeps sending "crash reports", don't know why - and I have no clue how to check whats happening - as it just says "sending report..." etc.. and then goes away
apurva.giri said:
These sound worse than what I mentioned above. Luckily never happened with me, otherwise I probably would have got it replaced by now.
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Yeah. I did a factory reset yesterday (first one for me on this phone) and now there is no issue at all when it comes to connecting to my car. Haven't experienced any freezes as well but that's to early to say I guess.
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cknorthpole said:
Yeah. I did a factory reset yesterday (first one for me on this phone) and now there is no issue at all when it comes to connecting to my car. Haven't experienced any freezes as well but that's to early to say I guess.
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Good to hear that. However, we can't just depend on Factory Reset every time something like this shows up...
Device G9287 . Lock your screen with pattern and then double press the camera button and open it.You will see blue line scanning your phone and the phone becomes unresponsive.Press back button and click home button thrice and then phone becomes responsive and you can draw the pattern and it will accept it.
Just got that bug some one said about the when the phone is locked and you touch it, the screen just stays black
The 'night clock' seems to take a hell of a lot of battery.
I woke up the other night after having it on from 11pm-7am with nearly 40% drain with 'android system' being kept awake for 12 hours - Can only assume it was the clock that's doing this.
I cleared the cache, no better, factory reset - Bit better, but still seeing a 20% drain over night with almost no apps installed since I got it (I like to make sure everything's working as expected before installing everything).
Alex---1 said:
The 'night clock' seems to take a hell of a lot of battery.
I woke up the other night after having it on from 11pm-7am with nearly 40% drain with 'android system' being kept awake for 12 hours - Can only assume it was the clock that's doing this.
I cleared the cache, no better, factory reset - Bit better, but still seeing a 20% drain over night with almost no apps installed since I got it (I like to make sure everything's working as expected before installing everything).
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Is the 20% drain with or without the night clock?
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That's with the night clock. I'm going to leave it off completely tonight and see how it behaves.
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That's with the night clock. I'm going to leave it off completely tonight and see how it behaves.
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Do let us know.. I never kept night clock on and my battery drain is about 3% throughout the night if I keep wifi & mobile data off.
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Samsung just released second November update.
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I have just installed it and removed my old registered fingerprint as indicated in the changelog, however now I cannot add a new one.
I keep getting: "Make sure the fingerprint sensor is clean and dry, then try again." at 41%, well done Samsung..
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I have just installed it and removed my old registered fingerprint as indicated in the changelog, however now I cannot add a new one.
I keep getting: "Make sure the fingerprint sensor is clean and dry, then try again." at 41%, well done Samsung..
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Same problem her!
My fingerprint sensor was working fine, now after this new update i can't register new fingerprints.
Did a factory reset to see if it solve the problem, but still the same.
My fingerprint sensor it is useless now!
Whats wrong with u samsung??
Hhahah same thing, now its not working at all
Update: I have contacted Samsung on Facebook but I did not yet receive a message from them, it seems like their support forum is also filled with complaints from users.
I got it working after a long time! After trying dozens of times, I was finally able to register my fingerprint again.
The trick is to hold your thumb straight on the scanner, just like in the picture that is shown above the scanner when adding a fingerprint.
It will take a long time (almost 5min for me), but after that it works fine even if you rotate your finger to unlock the phone.
For me personally it even works a little bit faster and it's much more accurate, it didn't miss my finger once anymore!
Mine is working now very fast and good.
I will wait till tomorrow, and see if it stays like this.
I didnt have any problem, with this update.
Here's what I have done:
1- remove all biometrics (face+fingerprints)
2- restart the device
3- register one fingerprint
everything is working perfect and it is much faster this time
(for people who get the message of clean the sensor/41% you just need to wipe it and hold well for the registration to go smooth)
After today's second November update, the accuracy of reading the fingerprint sensor when inserting new fingerprints has been significantly reduced. Either the sensor constantly warns you that your finger must cover the entire area of the sensor or prompts you to clean your finger or the glass of the display. These problems mainly concerned my right thumb when the other fingers were able to enter the cecek without major problems. The whole desperate I tried the method described here on the forum already described somewhere and within the scope of one fingerprint I alternated on the sensor and four fingers of one hand. All I was surprised to find out that I have registered a total of eight fingers at once and everything works great. Please try it, it costs nothing, just a little time. A505FNXXS3ASK9/A505FNOXM3ASK9/A505FXXS3ASK9
It's improved, but you need to be more careful with registering fingerprints. Cover the sensor fully and don't take the finger off immediately when the percentage rises.
Also don't delete all fingerprints at once. I have 3 fingerprints registered, one left hand, two right hand (same finger, for better accuracy, I'm right handed). When an update comes like this, remove one fingerprint, then readd the finger you deleted. You continue until all old fingerprints before update are deleted and you readded them all.
Bl4Ck R34Ct0r said:
Here's what I have done:
1- remove all biometrics (face+fingerprints)
2- restart the device
3- register one fingerprint
everything is working perfect and it is much faster this time
(for people who get the message of clean the sensor/41% you just need to wipe it and hold well for the registration to go smooth)
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I've done so, but cannot add new fingerprint. Waiting for answer from Samsung service. Better before update ...
Edit: now works up to 41% ... then less percent or message: sensor must be clean & restart
de-coder said:
I've done so, but cannot add new fingerprint. Waiting for answer from Samsung service. Better before update ...
Edit: now works up to 41% ... then less percent or message: sensor must be clean & restart
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Hey man, the trick is not moving your finger, just place it vertically as shown in the illustration and keep it that way..
Is Root working well after update?
just wondering if magisk is working fine without random reboots after this update?
should i flash the new firmware or stay with the old one with root working fine
thanks in advance
samsung wrote me to reset to factory settings. bad idea. everything as before.
I noticed, however, that the A50 can only read the fingerprints vertically
de-coder said:
samsung wrote me to reset to factory settings. bad idea. everything as before.
I noticed, however, that the A50 can only read the fingerprints vertically
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Really? I use my thumb horizontally and slightly tilted and it works fine.
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Really? I use my thumb horizontally and slightly tilted and it works fine.
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Removing the screen protector, removing face recognition and fingerprints then changing the position of the finger when not recognized plus patience works. No trouble unlocking afterwards.
i had the same issue. so i removed my screen protector and re registered my finger print. its working fine now
Man...registering with screen protector on was VERY difficult. But once I struggled through it (I think it took me 15 minutes for 3 fingers total), it seems to be more accurate. Maybe it's my bias but it feels a BIT slower...whereas before as long as the screen was clean, it was very quick to either register, or refuse.
UPDATE: I change my mind. My phone sat unattended for 6 hours and when I tried to unlock it didn't work for any of my fingers. Even when I go into the test mode it would not detect any of my fingers. Cleaning the screen (which hadn't been used over those 6 hours) didn't help. After rebooting the scanner worked again.
By then I'd deleted one of my fingers, and it would keep telling me my finger wasn't covering the screen.
I think I like the October iteration better. It's less reliable but also much less fussy and didn't require a reboot to fix.
This just sucks. I am stuck without the fingerprint login now.... cant go past 41% whatever I try. Way to go Samsung.
I have the same problem.. I can not register a new one.. it says to clean the sensor around 40%... is there anyway to downgrade the update?
Ok Finally I could add one fingerprint.. but i had to remove my tempered glass. so yeah I had to throw away my tempered glass to add a finger print. this sucks..
Hi guys
I have a Note 10+ totally standard set up.
When watching anything in Landscape mode it will randomly switch to portrait. I have timed this and it happens roughly every 6 minutes and 10 seconds without fail.
Any ideas? It seems to have started happening around 2 or 3 firmware updates ago.
I have tried turning off auto rotate and S pen gestures and it still happens.
It also happens when using Maps in Landscape mode, it shrinks down to minimised mode in the home screen.
I'm hoping someone else has encountered this and can help me fix this annoying issue?
I have something similar, while watching you tube vanced in landscape it would jump to the miniplayer. I did some reading and changed a setting and now it jumps from landscape to portrait mode. It still jumping even when I force all in landscape. I have not timed it yet but it could be well every 6min. On top of that I can see every X time a flicker when using the phone like the screen flickers once. Seems very similar to your problem.
My note 10+ is a Exynos version with Android 11 & One UI 3.1 security patch 1 Now 21. No root/complete stock.
cfds said:
I have something similar, while watching you tube vanced in landscape it would jump to the miniplayer. I did some reading and changed a setting and now it jumps from landscape to portrait mode. It still jumping even when I force all in landscape. I have not timed it yet but it could be well every 6min. On top of that I can see every X time a flicker when using the phone like the screen flickers once. Seems very similar to your problem.
My note 10+ is a Exynos version with Android 11 & One UI 3.1 security patch 1 Now 21. No root/complete stock.
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Yes, same here every now and again I get a screen flicker like you mention. How long has this been happening for you? I'm sure it was about 3 updates ago
A couple of months? I have been considering doing a hard reset and reinstall all my apps again. My wife has also a Note 10+ and she has none of these symptom's, both are stock non rooted phones running latest UI...
To me its a software glitch but to find the origin of this will not be easy unless we can trace a process happening every 6 minutes.
cfds said:
A couple of months? I have been considering doing a hard reset and reinstall all my apps again. My wife has also a Note 10+ and she has none of these symptom's, both are stock non rooted phones running latest UI...
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I don't update, haven't for 2 years and no issues... updates break devices especially on carrier variants.
Clear system cache.
Make sure all power management is disabled, to check; Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active.
If that doesn't work try safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app.
If you have done a major firmware upgrade, factory reset.
I tried to clear system cache but could not get the device into recovery mode, turns out on android 11 you need the USB cable hooked up to a laptop...I as hardly connect my device to my laptop I have not cleared it yet.
PWR management I will look into. I had the device in safe mode but not long enough.
cfds said:
I tried to clear system cache but could not get the device into recovery mode, turns out on android 11 you need the USB cable hooked up to a laptop...I as hardly connect my device to my laptop I have not cleared it yet.
PWR management I will look into. I had the device in safe mode but not long enough.
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If you can still roll it back to Android 10, do so.
One of the reasons I got a second N10+ was knowing it be running on Pie, however it was Q instead.
Q isn't bad however 11 and 12 are a mess.
Timed it today, occurs every 6 and a bit minutes...
cfds said:
Timed it today, occurs every 6 and a bit minutes...
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Monitor in Device Care>Memory what apk(s) are at the end of the list. It's likely one of them.
Remember to refresh and expand the list.
I've used this method to find insanely obscure problems and avoid a factory reset.
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cfds said:
Timed it today, occurs every 6 and a bit minutes...
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It must be the same issue I'm having
Sounds like power management... disable it.
Make sure in the individual apps Battery>allow background activity is enabled.
The update may have changed default settings... you'll need to track it down. Fun times...
Same issue here... At first it was annoying that every 6 minutes the screen exited landscape mode. But then I got really enraged when I was shooting a video in landscape. And on top of returning to portrait, the recording is canceled..... I'm really not willing to reset the phone, I would really like to find the root cause of this issue...
I did it! I found the culprit.
This issue was already getting in my nerves, so I decided to attach my phone to Logcat. Then after some events I started do find some pattern:
Every time the phone "auto-rotates" it fires a WindowManager log like this:
2021-12-02 00:43:27.453 1012-1107/? I/WindowManager: Destroying surface Surface(name=com.samsung.android.messaging/com.samsung.android.messaging.ui.view.firstlaunch.GoogleFirstLaunchActivity$_22315)
And the one that allowed me to pinpoint, was this rotation message:
2021-12-02 00:43:27.619 1012-1107/? I/WindowManager: Reparenting to original parent: null, destroy=true, surface=Surface(name=RotationLayer)/@0x4f79623
Then I went googling this message and found this thread:
Strange issue after latest Samsung android update - Page 1 - Computers, Gadgets & Stuff - PistonHeads UK
So I did what the guy suggested, I downloaded Google Message and replaced Samsung Message one as the system default SMS app.
I didn't need to remove the samsung messaging via adb. Just force stopped it. But if after I reboot my phone it starts do do it again, I will remove it!!!!
andrehen said:
I did it! I found the culprit.
This issue was already getting in my nerves, so I decided to attach my phone to Logcat. Then after some events I started do find some pattern:
Every time the phone "auto-rotates" it fires a WindowManager log like this:
2021-12-02 00:43:27.453 1012-1107/? I/WindowManager: Destroying surface Surface(name=com.samsung.android.messaging/com.samsung.android.messaging.ui.view.firstlaunch.GoogleFirstLaunchActivity$_22315)
And the one that allowed me to pinpoint, was this rotation message:
2021-12-02 00:43:27.619 1012-1107/? I/WindowManager: Reparenting to original parent: null, destroy=true, surface=Surface(name=RotationLayer)/@0x4f79623
Then I went googling this message and found this thread:
Strange issue after latest Samsung android update - Page 1 - Computers, Gadgets & Stuff - PistonHeads UK
So I did what the guy suggested, I downloaded Google Message and replaced Samsung Message one as the system default SMS app.
I didn't need to remove the samsung messaging via adb. Just force stopped it. But if after I reboot my phone it starts do do it again, I will remove it!!!!
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On my Android 9 and 10 N10+'s that app runs with no issues. It's a well behave app for me that I use a lot.
Changed system settings is set to not allow.
This is it's typical memory usage pattern on 9:
blackhawk said:
On my Android 9 and 10 N10+'s that app runs with no issues. It's a well behave app for me that I use a lot.
Changed system settings is set to not allow.
This is it's typical memory usage pattern on 9:
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com.samsung.android.messaging has aways been a well behaved APP. The thing is, like the OP related, and like myself and other reports here, this issue began in the last updates from Samsung, like in the the past month or so.. It's probably trying to show an activity `GoogleFirstLaunchActivity` and can't, causing this behavior. But I do think in the next update or two, this issue will be sorted out.
andrehen said:
I did it! I found the culprit.
This issue was already getting in my nerves, so I decided to attach my phone to Logcat. Then after some events I started do find some pattern:
Every time the phone "auto-rotates" it fires a WindowManager log like this:
2021-12-02 00:43:27.453 1012-1107/? I/WindowManager: Destroying surface Surface(name=com.samsung.android.messaging/com.samsung.android.messaging.ui.view.firstlaunch.GoogleFirstLaunchActivity$_22315)
And the one that allowed me to pinpoint, was this rotation message:
2021-12-02 00:43:27.619 1012-1107/? I/WindowManager: Reparenting to original parent: null, destroy=true, surface=Surface(name=RotationLayer)/@0x4f79623
Then I went googling this message and found this thread:
Strange issue after latest Samsung android update - Page 1 - Computers, Gadgets & Stuff - PistonHeads UK
So I did what the guy suggested, I downloaded Google Message and replaced Samsung Message one as the system default SMS app.
I didn't need to remove the samsung messaging via adb. Just force stopped it. But if after I reboot my phone it starts do do it again, I will remove it!!!!
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I just Force stopped the message app and it still does it every dammed 6 minutes. It's really doing my head in.
andrehen said:
com.samsung.android.messaging has aways been a well behaved APP. The thing is, like the OP related, and like myself and other reports here, this issue began in the last updates from Samsung, like in the the past month or so.. It's probably trying to show an activity `GoogleFirstLaunchActivity` and can't, causing this behavior. But I do think in the next update or two, this issue will be sorted out.
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I do hope an update fixes it, it doesn't seem to be an issue with the messaging app for me.
Paul203360 said:
I just Force stopped the message app and it still does it every dammed 6 minutes. It's really doing my head in.
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Did you download google message and set it to default? I think that if the Samsung Message still is the default SMS client, it can't really be forced to stop. (It just restarts by the OS)
When I installed google messages all my existent messages from samsung message was transferred over. And as I mostly only use SMS to receive authentication codes nothing really changed for me.
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Did you download google message and set it to default? I think that if the Samsung Message still is the default SMS client, it can't really be forced to stop. (It just restarts by the OS)
When I installed google messages all my existent messages from samsung message was transferred over. And as I mostly only use SMS to receive authentication codes nothing really changed for me.
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No, I didn't, I will give that a try. If it transfers everything over that's ideal. Will give it a go. Cheers
SOLVED!!! What a result, Andrehen your an asset to XDA. Really appreciate you sorting this problem out for us. Thanks fella
cfds said:
I have something similar, while watching you tube vanced in landscape it would jump to the miniplayer. I did some reading and changed a setting and now it jumps from landscape to portrait mode. It still jumping even when I force all in landscape. I have not timed it yet but it could be well every 6min. On top of that I can see every X time a flicker when using the phone like the screen flickers once. Seems very similar to your problem.
My note 10+ is a Exynos version with Android 11 & One UI 3.1 security patch 1 Now 21. No root/complete stock.
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Hi cfds
Did you get the issue sorted?
If not, follow what andrehen says. It worked perfect for me.
Hi!
I own an SM-F926B/DS since April with latest updates, and the last couple of months it randomly reboots. Some times reboots without asking SIM PIN, some other times reboots asking SIM PIN, some other times it keeps rebooting and I have to press the side button to make it functional again. Most of the times, the phone is hot on the back. I don't have to use the phone, some times it has rebooted just when I pick it up from the table. There is not a specific pattern, at least from what I can tell, some times 2-3 days will pass without any reboots, some other times a couple of times per day, some other times it goes to a reboot loop. Some times, the phone freezes (usually in Chrome or in settings menu), or some random applications do not open.
I tried removing some apps which I installed the period I noticed the problem, but it didn't make any difference.
I understand that I must do a factory reset, but I'm trying to find other ways to debug the problem before doing this, because I have many apps with many settings and it will take me forever to reinstall them. also, by just restoring a previous backup after a factory reset, I'm afraid that probably I will restore the problem too.
Have you any other advises? Perhaps a way to log the state when the phone tries to reboot or which application requests it?
Are there any others with similar problems?
Thank you.
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I have had the same problem. Ses after the last update it don't seem to be happening now.
I had a random reboot problem back in July and it was the Facebook Messenger app that caused it after an update they did. When they updated it again, the problem stopped. The app also had been eating battery like crazy during that time. So, I'd start with looking at what apps got updated at the time it began happening as well as see if any are killing your battery.
Sounds like a badly behaving app eating battery and CPU to the point it's getting turned off. I would start with usage stats and battery stats whenever this happens and see what's going on in the background and start there.
Thank you for your help.
As I have said, the phone has all the latest updates, so it is not an outdated app or OS issue. Also, I have hundreds of apps installed, taking 10 updates daily, so it is impossible to track down which app might have caused the issue two months ago.
The phone does not turn off, it reboots. This way I can't find the app which may consumes more battery. The only thing that could help and I have not already mentioned, is that in most cases I see issues related to "Google Play Services" like excessive battery usage or stopped responding.
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Thank you for your help.
As I have said, the phone has all the latest updates, so it is not an outdated app or OS issue. Also, I have hundreds of apps installed, taking 10 updates daily, so it is impossible to track down which app might have caused the issue two months ago.
The phone does not turn off, it reboots. This way I can't find the app which may consumes more battery. The only thing that could help and I have not already mentioned, is that in most cases I see issues related to "Google Play Services" like excessive battery usage or stopped responding.
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It has nothing to do with an app being outdated, but that when they updated it, they coded something wrong. You can try to track which one by looking at which apps consume too much battery in the Settings. Rebooting does not change that stat at all, and rebooting is what it did when Facebook Messenger caused my problem back in July.
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It has nothing to do with an app being outdated, but that when they updated it, they coded something wrong. You can try to track which one by looking at which apps consume too much battery in the Settings. Rebooting does not change that stat at all, and rebooting is what it did when Facebook Messenger caused my problem back in July.
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The usual suspect is Google Play Services. In device care I see different apps crashing daily, not the same.
This is a screenshot of battery consumption right now:
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The usual suspect is Google Play Services. In device care I see different apps crashing daily, not the same.
This is a screenshot of battery consumption right now:
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My Google Play Services are currently 1.5 and 0.3% (Secure Folder and regular one), so that's not excessive battery use for that. When Messenger caused me issues, it was like 40% or something. It also never crashed.
I tried a diagnostic log app, but it doesn't work to capture random reboots. I just had to wait until they updated the app, which I think was about a week after it started. It mostly happened while I wasn't using my phone.
Hmm.
Last week I eventually did a factory reset. After selecting language for the initial setup, the phone entered a reboot loop again, so it was obvious that it wasn't a software issue. I proceeded with the setup, but without restoring any applications. The phone did some reboots again.
I contacted local customer support, and when I went there they connected the phone to their software and they were able to see in the log files some kernel panicks, memory errors and boot loops since the factory reset. They told me that if I hadn't reset the phone,they would be able to see all the problems since the beginning.
They told me that they have to change the main board, and after two days I got my phone back. This happened on Friday, today is Monday and everything seems fine (I crossed my fingers). I reinstalled everything including applications from Samsung Cloud.
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Last week I eventually did a factory reset. After selecting language for the initial setup, the phone entered a reboot loop again, so it was obvious that it wasn't a software issue. I proceeded with the setup, but without restoring any applications. The phone did some reboots again.
I contacted local customer support, and when I went there they connected the phone to their software and they were able to see in the log files some kernel panicks, memory errors and boot loops since the factory reset. They told me that if I hadn't reset the phone,they would be able to see all the problems since the beginning.
They told me that they have to change the main board, and after two days I got my phone back. This happened on Friday, today is Monday and everything seems fine (I crossed my fingers). I reinstalled everything including applications from Samsung Cloud.
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Oh wow, what a hassle! Glad the phone seems to be working well now, though! That's crazy that it rebooted that early in the setup process. Did you have to pay for the fix?
No, it was covered by guarantee, the phone is less than 6 months old.
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No, it was covered by guarantee, the phone is less than 6 months old.
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Well that's a relief!