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Is there anyway to setup a PPTP VPN connection on ICS without being forced to use a lock screen with PIN/password/pattern? VPN works but I don't want to lock my screen with a PIN.
This was possible on 2.x so why did they change it? Tried using a 3rd party solution like 1VPN but it doesn't even connect to my VPN..
I hate to bump this thread but I really need to know if there is a workaround for this. VPN is the only way I am able to access the Onlive servers to play.
Yea, I just came across this "feature." There has to be a way to disable it. I wish people would stop insisting on handling my security for me. I'm a big boy, I can do it myself.
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What's wrong with using a pattern? Its just as quick and easy as the drag to unlock.
Still haven't found a workaround.. a pattern is not as annoying as a password but it removes the quick access to the camera from the lockscreen doesn't allow you to use face unlock.
I've managed to muck around with the Settings.apk, and I've gotten it to allow me to configure and connect to my VPN without having to set a pin code on the lockscreen. However, it doesn't SAVE the VPN entry. Once you back out of Settings, the entry is lost and will have to be re-added again.
While I'm no stranger to line-based coding, I have to say I'm rather new to Android and I'm learning as I go. Lots of trial and error.
Hey, it's progress.
For those wanting to muck around themselves, I'm tinkering inside the VpnSettings.smali file -- specifically in the onResume method. That's where the check is to see if the Credential Storage is unlocked/locked/uninitialized. I can circumvent that check -- but I think the issue is that it's not ACTUALLY unlocked hence why the settings aren't saved.
Any progress since your last post? I got the same annoying issur.
I am also looking for this annoying "feature" to be overcome.
Just wanted to reply so you know others are also wanting credentials to be stored without losing the ease of access from the lockscreen.
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+1. Wtf is the point of quick camera access if you're forced to lose it?
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I'm also interested in removing this annoying "feature"!
I can't wait for the day this problem will be fixed! Annoying as hell!
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gabster21 said:
Is there anyway to setup a PPTP VPN connection on ICS without being forced to use a lock screen with PIN/password/pattern? VPN works but I don't want to lock my screen with a PIN.
This was possible on 2.x so why did they change it? Tried using a 3rd party solution like 1VPN but it doesn't even connect to my VPN..
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Hy,
I wrote an application that can connect to a PPTP VPN Server
without having to use PIN or Pattern :
PPTP VPN Manager
Hope this post can help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597093
I personally use face unlock cuz it's more secure than slider but quicker than other security lock. So what do you use?
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I wish I could say that I use the CyanogenMod lockscreen because lockscreen gestures kick some serious ass but I just can't give up access to the notification bar from the lockscreen, so I'm using WidgetLocker (with no lockscreen widgets).
Billy
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Slide to unlock at home.
PIN out of the house.
Face Unlock is cool, but it is far from 100% chance of unlocking. Because of this, on the average its still faster to just use a PIN or Pattern.
I find that the Face Unlock feature is inefficient, because I can choose to open 3 extra apps on quad lock, but Face Unlock is only able to unlock the phone.
I must say I'm not a fan of face unlock. It works great and all but sometimes I just want to hit the power button, slide and get into an app quickly. I don't have time to wait for the camera to adjust the brightness level.
That being said I have been using the Codename Android lockscreen. It is highly customizable. I have chrome on there so I can get to browsing right away.
Here I use holo ;-)
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Stock...was using go locker til I figured out you can bypass the pin entry...maybe once they fix that I'll use it
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When I set up my Exchange account on the phone, I had to accept corporate security's (Microsoft default?) device administrator, which enforced PIN lock.
Since then, my ... ummmm, esteemed colleagues ... in corporate security mandated that I install "mobile device management" software so they could screw around with my phone from remote and make it conform to their idea of security standards...
...on my personal device? I don't think so.
I deleted my corporate Exchange account from the phone and removed their entry from Settings > Security > Device Administrators.
Now I just use the slide unlocker.
I think IOS has this right, just to take a quick pic I dont want to have to enter my pin code or do my security pattern.
You have the option to swipe left..but only with slide to unlock. I can't say I've seen any iPhone with that function though.
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iphone 4s definitely has this feature even with Pin Code enabled, I have one in front of me.
Herman76 said:
You have the option to swipe left..but only with slide to unlock. I can't say I've seen any iPhone with that function though.
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Personally, I disagree ... If I lock my phone, I don't want people to be able to do anything with the phone. Isn't that the point of the lock?
Well, that's why we have these things called options.
I lock my phone because if I lose it or its stolen I dont want anyone to have access to my data...I dont care if the only thing they can do is take pictures...as a matter of fact I would encourage this so I can track them via GPS info on the pics
tjhart85 said:
Personally, I disagree ... If I lock my phone, I don't want people to be able to do anything with the phone. Isn't that the point of the lock?
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If you are rooted I guess tasker or similar app can be configured to take pictures for you on lock screen.
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Then remove the pin if you want easy access to the camera.
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Yes, the while point of having a lock is to "lock" out other people from using your phone...
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I bet if i didn't mention IOS in my OP I wouldn't have had all these unhelpful replies
Since when did Android become the land of no options/customizations?
The idea itself is quite nice.
Maybe android itself won't make it possible? I could imagine that there are just no permissions to execute anything without unlock. However the community is insane and solves problems like that.
I don't use any lock so I can't tell you if any rom I used so far had this kind of feature
How are the replies not helpful? The fact is you can't.
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So it looks like you can do this with a few 3rd party apps.
Right now I am testing this Setting Profiles.
I have Profiles setup to disable Lock when connected to my home WiFi or my cars Bluetooth.
It has disabled the Lock Screen & Pin entering all together while home, but I will test this out more today during my travels.
If settings profile doesn't work well, then I will try this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.benhirashima.unlockwithwifi&hl=en
Unlock With Wifi which seems to do most of what I use Settings Profiles for anyway.
And Josh, most of the replies just said "why" would I want to do this.
Thanks Herman76 for pointing me in the right direction.
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How are the replies not helpful? The fact is you can't.
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This might be possible because you can use wallet without unlocking the phone even with corporate email.
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Delayed Lock
Update:
Although Settings Profile did what I wanted, it was screwing up my Bluetooth connection. (Seems the app hasn't been updated in months...)
Right now I am testing Delayed Lock Free Trial.
It has plug-in to disable the Pin Lock based on Wifi AP connected, Bluetooth Device or GPS Location...so it brings me to the slider unlock screen where I have my Camera as an option (AOKP)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...CwiZGUuajR2ZWxpbi5kZWxheWVkbG9jazIudHJpYWwiXQ..
AOKP gives you an option to view the standard slide lockscreen before viewing the secure lockscreen, but you still have to put in your pin/pattern after sliding over to the camera. This isn't what you're looking for, but it seems to be a bit faster than putting in the pin THEN opening the camera app (especially if you enable the quick pin unlock in Rom Control).
There's also the option of using the above method with face unlock. After sliding, you'd move to face unlock then open to the camera app.
Reasons
@RichAP your efforts are well appreciated as you did actually try to find a solution and not just bring reasons for 'why you shouldn`t use this feature', however I`ve come across the same question as the person who started the topic and I thought I`d give a more detailed explanation of what is the app he is looking for.
This could come quite handy to most users who may want to capture a picture close to 'instantly'. For example if you wanna challenge your camera`s ability to take a picture of a fast moving object such as your neighbor finally jumping off his house, having to put a password/pin/pattern would result in you missing the moment and you don`t want that. A better example is something which happened to me today. An idiot nearly drove into the car i was in, popped his head out of the window, started swearing at everyone and then drifts away. I wanted to take a picture of his number plate, in case anything would go sideways, but by the time i unlocked my phone he was long gone.
As the person who started the topic mentioned, this feature is available in iOS (i`ve seen it on iphone 4s about 2 months ago), but the security measures have been taken into account too; you can only take pictures, but you cannot view them unless you pass the security measures (therefore if your phone gets lost/stolen, whoever has it can only fill up your memory with pictures in the worst case scenario, but what`s that good for when you can`t access them ?). I personally hate apple with a passion, but this is the only feature i`ve come across which i couldn`t find on android yet. Of course now this is down to the developers if they are interested to implement this, i only showed under what circumstances you can use it. Oh and why does apple have it (and amazingly, doesn`t charge the users ridiculous amounts of money, it`s actually built-in the OS) and android doesn`t (even as a 3rd party app) is a good question, as apple never gives its users more than 1% on top of the very basic (for free).
I do apologize for jumping in quite late, however I just got a galaxy S3 3 weeks ago and I`ve just come across this today. If anyone found an alternative or something which is already on the market, may I please ask how do i find it ? Thank you in advance.
I'm sure with the 4.2 update you can take pictures even when the phone has a pattern/pin lock, or at least I can on the paranoid 2.99 beta9 rom
You can do that in 4.2
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Anyone realize the last reply is 6 months ago, which means there is no 4.2.....................................................................
I dont think its a good idea to enable camera without unlocking the screen.
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I am not an Apple Fanboy. I do not own an iPhone, ever.
But seeing Apple Pay in video, I think Apple really understand what it takes to use NFC. Having to unlock your phone and/or enter a pin before tapping the phone to the NFC reader is more hassle then swiping a credit card and sign.
Yes thanks for the troll!
Oh and you really want anyone that gets their hands on your phone to also be able to spend your cash?
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curioct said:
Yes thanks for the troll!
Oh and you really want anyone that gets their hands on your phone to also be able to spend your cash?
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No trolling. I don't own and not planning to buy any iPhone, iPod, iPad, AppleTV nor Apple Watch.
There has to be a better way to authorize an NFC transaction then entering a PIN. Face unlock, voice signature comes to mind.
I like the security of entering a pin before authorizing the transaction. If someone steals my phone, they can go tapping all over town spending my money.
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I like the security of entering a pin before authorizing the transaction. If someone steals my phone, they can go tapping all over town spending my money.
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How about having the security yet not have to enter a PIN on a bright 5-inch screen in front of strangers?
IMO,
1. NFC on Android should work without having to unlock, like checking-in.
2. Wallet service should allow easier yet secure authentication. Like face unlock, voice recognition, even tap code!
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How about having the security yet not have to enter a PIN on a bright 5-inch screen in front of strangers?
IMO,
1. NFC on Android should work without having to unlock, like checking-in.
2. Wallet service should allow easier yet secure authentication. Like face unlock, voice recognition, even tap code!
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Strangers should not be that close to me in line to see me enter my code, whether it's the PIN pad at the register or my phone. Period. Shouldn't be that close anyway if I'm doing something on my phone, it's none of anybody's business to be snooping. That's considered my personal space, and you will get some F-bombs for being too close.
The idea of not having to authenticate without having to enter something is just not secure to me. And I sure as heck don't want to use voice recognition to tell everyone within earshot what my authentication code or whatever is.
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Strangers should not be that close to me in line to see me enter my code, whether it's the PIN pad at the register or my phone. Period. Shouldn't be that close anyway if I'm doing something on my phone, it's none of anybody's business to be snooping. That's considered my personal space, and you will get some F-bombs for being too close.
The idea of not having to authenticate without having to enter something is just not secure to me. And I sure as heck don't want to use voice recognition to tell everyone within earshot what my authentication code or whatever is.
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Then we get a newer version of google glass with sensors on the earpieces that press against your head and takes brainwaves. You "Think" of the code or passphrase, it gets then taken in by the sensor, encrypted, sent wirelessly to your device, decrypted, authenticated and you pay. As fast as a "thought", well some might have problems but that's another story.
Who will know your code then?... Well atleast until you find some or other method to read peoples minds.
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Strangers should not be that close to me in line to see me enter my code, whether it's the PIN pad at the register or my phone. Period. Shouldn't be that close anyway if I'm doing something on my phone, it's none of anybody's business to be snooping. That's considered my personal space, and you will get some F-bombs for being too close.
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There is a reason the pin pad on check out line has a small barrier. People can see what you type from the side. I can easily see the pattern or the PIN other people use to unlock their phone from a distance because their screen is so large and bright. Well outside of their "personal space". This is because PIN entry has a dilemma, it must display the pin pad that the user can see and large enough for the user's fat finger to touch.
The idea of not having to authenticate without having to enter something is just not secure to me. And I sure as heck don't want to use voice recognition to tell everyone within earshot what my authentication code or whatever is.
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No one suggested authentication is not needed. Voice recognition is not the same as voice signature. Say, the phone can display a random word and you read it to the phone. The phone knows your voice. This is better than entering the same PIN over and over again.
We should be able to configure our own restrictions.
I'd make $20 and below work without unlocking or entering a PIN. and only twice in an hour. Anything over $20 would need my PIN.
PIN Settings
You can set your pin to have a timeout of 15 minutes, 1 day, or never in Google Wallet. This seems like a good compromise. If you have it at one day, you can enter it before you leave your house, or your car, etc...
Biometrics
Biometrics really need hardware integration to be both convenient and secure. The reason Apple added the fingerprint reader in the iPhone 5s is that Apple makes you authenticate for EVERYTHING. In order to store keychain passwords on the iPhone requires that you use a pin on the unlock screen, and from there it's a combo of pin and password for every single thing. Download an app? Password. Change security settings? pin. Download a song? password. Without both a pin and a password for a secured iPhone you never have access to the whole thing but it's a huge pain in the ass.
Enter touch ID- you can register up to 5 finger prints to unlock it and purchase apps and songs- the most common tasks- and now to use NFC pay. It turns the previously annoying security into a simple tap-to-unlock affair. It's silent, it's instantaneous and it is completely private, and it still doesn't give you access to the whole phone. You still have to put in the PIN every time it restarts, and password for certain things. And even if someone gets a hold of the phone, the PIN, the password and the fingerprints, the owner can brick the device remotely with find my iPhone and have it beam its location to Apple until the battery runs out and blacklist its ESN. - I think that's what the OP is talking about when he says that only Apple "gets" NFC Payment- a ****pot worth of security made totally effortless.
I hate to say it but NFC- especially payments- on Android makes me nervous as hell. I like Android for its openness and the ability to customize it and get root access if I want to and make full use of my phone- but I and a lot of other people don't have time to take the security precautions that are necessary for NFC. Apple kind of bubble wraps its users and when it comes to paying for stuff with my phone and that huge unknown, as of now, I'd prefer to be bubble wrapped and pay for stuff with a couple of highly secure taps. Even with voice or face recognition locks- things that can be accomplished in software, without standardizing hardware, it requires a certain locking down of the OS and negates a lot of the appeal of Android.
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nookin said:
How about having the security yet not have to enter a PIN on a bright 5-inch screen in front of strangers?
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You don't have to. Wallet allows setting the Wallet relock timeout to be as long as 24 hours.
IMHO Apple's implementation of Biometrics is the best so far. That, coupled with the ease of Apple pay makes it the most safe and elegant implementation so far. If nfc payments have to take off, this is the way to do it!
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nookin said:
There is a reason the pin pad on check out line has a small barrier. People can see what you type from the side. I can easily see the pattern or the PIN other people use to unlock their phone from a distance because their screen is so large and bright. Well outside of their "personal space". This is because PIN entry has a dilemma, it must display the pin pad that the user can see and large enough for the user's fat finger to touch.
No one suggested authentication is not needed. Voice recognition is not the same as voice signature. Say, the phone can display a random word and you read it to the phone. The phone knows your voice. This is better than entering the same PIN over and over again.
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What if the place you're using it in is very noisy or has a lot of background chatter? How will it be able to recognize your voice under those conditions? Also voice signature sounds a lot like something that would have an annoyingly high failure rate.
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What if the place you're using it in is very noisy or has a lot of background chatter? How will it be able to recognize your voice under those conditions? Also voice signature sounds a lot like something that would have an annoyingly high failure rate.
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It is similar to what you do when voice dialing does not work. You can always fall back to PIN entry.
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You don't have to. Wallet allows setting the Wallet relock timeout to be as long as 24 hours.
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That is a very bad workaround. You are essentially giving up security. It is like you are tired of using key to unlock a door that you decided to leave the door unlocked, for 24 hours.
I think you're all taking this security thing a little too seriously. I've been using paypass contactless credit card for years now, and I love that it doesn't need any authentication up to $20. Above that it needs the PIN. I think this is the way to go, fingerprint is not bad either.
Well that may be the case but you have to remember that nfc is still new technology. Android has been using if for years (android phones). In all of that time it took apple like 5 years to make a iphone that has specs even worth mentioning. Also android has google wallet a nfc payment system like apple pay. So really it comes down to who can have more features in the long run. On samsung phones theres samsung wallet and im pretty sure on the s5 it uses fingerprint as well.
One UI 2 beta for S10 series locking users out of their phones, it seems there is a critical flaw that refuses users’ PIN, password or pattern after restarting their device. For now, the only workaround to the bug is to set up the remote unlock feature before restarting the device and then use the Find My Mobile app to delete all biometrics and screen lock data. The only issue is that you still won’t be able to enroll new screen lock or biometrics so the device will remain without any form of secure unlock.
There’s also the hard reset option that wipes all the phone’s data but some users are reporting that even after that, they still cannot set a new pin or any other form of biometric authentication.
A lot of people complain of this in official ONE UI 2 Samsung forums, as it is the same beta 2 currently live for Note 10 family, you might wanna keep that in mind!
Here we are talking about Note 10+, not S10 series.
they already started to seed the fix ZSJL