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Hey guys and girls just joined the site been looking around and reading alot of interesting things.
Like the title says im running 4.1.2 but i hear there might be a release of 4.2 coming the 20th?
I'm wanting to root my phone and join the club. I'm pretty much a newb when it come to this I want to make sure i do everything right when i start the process i'm a truck driver so my phone is a important part of my day to day activity and cant end up bricking my phone.
Ive been looking at youtube vids and reading comments some people having problems and some doing just fine.
Could someone recommend a link one with a video to show the process that would be great, should i wait for a over the air update to 4.2
Sprint won't be going to 4.2 . They are bypassing and the upcoming update will be 4.3. I would wate until the update comes out before you root. That way the roms and rooters will be able to be written and hou can have all the perks of an official 4.3
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I disagree. I would root now. It's possible with any OTA update, it could secure the root exploit. And nothing has been really said when any update is coming. Could be a couple weeks or a couple months.
And if you're rooted already, you'll only need to wait a day or two before someone uploads a rooted version of the update to flash.
Plus, if you fubar something, it's likely already been done and you'll be able to find a fix.
And if you do depend on your phone, it's hard to say what things may get borked with the update. So by waiting those few days for the updated rom, you'll find out what is not working and can decide if updating is right for you. Sometimes updates will bork things like GPS.
Personally, I don't see anything you really gain by waiting.
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Sprint won't be going to 4.2 . They are bypassing and the upcoming update will be 4.3. I would wate until the update comes out before you root. That way the roms and rooters will be able to be written and hou can have all the perks of an official 4.3
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I disagree. I would root now. It's possible with any OTA update, it could secure the root exploit. And nothing has been really said when any update is coming. Could be a couple weeks or a couple months.
And if you're rooted already, you'll only need to wait a day or two before someone uploads a rooted version of the update to flash.
Plus, if you fubar something, it's likely already been done and you'll be able to find a fix.
And if you do depend on your phone, it's hard to say what things may get borked with the update. So by waiting those few days for the updated rom, you'll find out what is not working and can decide if updating is right for you. Sometimes updates will bork things like GPS.
Personally, I don't see anything you really gain by waiting.
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Ditto on rooting before an update. Get root before the Knox **** hits your phone and your warranty is permanently b0rked. Once 4.3 and Knox is on your phone, if you ever root there's chance in hell of ever claiming on your warranty. More likely than not.
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What happened with the link being removed for the toolkit download? I watched the video on post #4 seems to be easiest way to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956180
Is this still a good option for rooting the phone?
Any ideas?
Just got my 4.1.2 note today. Within an hour after bringing it home I found the old toolkit I rooted with my other note before I traded it. Why wait
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Not wanting to wait just want an instruction how to I'm a trucker with a lap top and never have Wi-Fi unless I'm at McDonald's so I don't get to check and download what I'm needing to.
I was among the many who downloaded (immediately) the OTA, but amidst the frenzy, I ended up removing the update zip and I froze the Samsung/Google update process applications because I was wasn't willing to risk the inevitable compatability issues that arise on a new OS. I'm curious, though--how many others are wading the storm until development catches up? As it stands, this is the best phone I've ever had and I can't imagine risking functionality for the sake of being on the latest OS.
Also, when do you expect development catch up to provide a viable root method that doesn't trip knox, among other things? My guess is about 30 days.
Any thoughts?
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I was among the many who downloaded (immediately) the OTA, but amidst the frenzy, I ended up removing the update zip and I froze the Samsung/Google update process applications because I was wasn't willing to risk the inevitable compatability issues that arise on a new OS. I'm curious, though--how many others are wading the storm until development catches up? As it stands, this is the best phone I've ever had and I can't imagine risking functionality for the sake of being on the latest OS.
Also, when do you expect development catch up to provide a viable root method that doesn't trip knox, among other things? My guess is about 30 days.
Any thoughts?
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I am waiting almost indefinitely. Every now and then i restore back to stock just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. 4K video recording? Pffft, whatever. rapid-shot? samesies. I have an 18MP DSLR that can do all of those things much better if it's that important to me. Sure, I don't always have it in my pocket, but, compared to the professional grade those features don't even qualify as also-ran to me.
can't really think of a single thing that I miss from stock.
I got this phone the second my Jump was ready and I saw CM nightlies. Been on KK for a while now.
Now, if I were a fan of TW? I'd still sit tight and ride it out. There is nothing on KK that is all that amazing compared to JB. In fact, there are quite a few deficits.
On older versions of Android (I started out on Cupcake...guh) while I was still of the "don't take OTAs unless you want to risk your phone getting stuck on the new version or locked up tight" train...and this was before that ever started happening....and back then it was hard as hell because every update added _TONS_ of functionality and improved _TONS_ of things....I can't even describe how hard it was to delay OTAs back then. Nowadays we get evolution, not revolution, from every update. Tiny incremental stuff.
I'd say sit tight and wait it out, you aren't really missing anything.
...though when the ART (Android Runtime) replaces Dalvik, officially, on stock ROMs? That'll be the next big thing that would even get me considering just doing the damned update. I've got ART running and it is awesome. It's pretty much unnoticeable at first, especially if you go looking for the massive improvement. Then over the course of using your phone for a couple days you just start realizing "holy crap, that was fast"...but only over tiny little speed improvements....all over the damned place. It smooths out Android in ways I can't even describe (and that you can't even notice if you go looking for it).
Again, be patient. Just keep in the back of your mind that you never ever know if this next OTA is the one that locks down your bootloader. Sure, this one might be safe...maybe even the next one...hell, maybe all of them. But what if the next one is the one that finally does it? Not worth it. Your phone is awesome out of the box.
I rooted both my Note 3's just to keep from getting the update. So far I am seeing lots of people complain about different issues so I am glad I did. Overall it doesn't seem like the couple of positive changes are worth the risk. I still haven't seen a straight answer on if the bootloader is actually locked or not. This is the first phone I have had that has an unlocked bootloader so I have never really looked into the difference between locked and unlocked.
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I rooted both my Note 3's just to keep from getting the update. So far I am seeing lots of people complain about different issues so I am glad I did. Overall it doesn't seem like the couple of positive changes are worth the risk. I still haven't seen a straight answer on if the bootloader is actually locked or not. This is the first phone I have had that has an unlocked bootloader so I have never really looked into the difference between locked and unlocked.
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I haven't really looked into it, but, I have been on phones (or have been helping out buddies with their phones) when an update locked a previously unlocked bootloader. The forums would be a ****-show. So I feel pretty confident that this did not lock down the bootloader to prevent custom kernels and/or recoveries...those are the deal-breakers. However, you cannot roll back to 4.3 after taking this official update, so far as I understand it. It's pretty standard stuff in this day and age.
That's another reason not to take it.
I didn't update right away. I waited a couple of days until a proven root method was out. Once that came out I went for it. I'm glad I did. I was already rooted before, and tripped KNOX, so that didn't bother me. 4.3 was great, and I didn't think this phone could get much better, but after a couple of days on 4.4.2 I'm seeing some good improvements. Better battery life, less resources used, smoother overall. I'm really liking it. Plus the GEL works great. Even the hot word detection works like on Nexus devices. I know a huge issue with 4.4.2 is the SD card not having write access, but I flashed the fix, so all works like it did on 4.3. Overall a really nice update. At least for me.
I agree with daneurysm, if your happy on 4.3 jellybean there's no need to rush and flash 4.4.2 just because it's available and adds a few new features (none that I see are must have). It is always best to wait it out a bit and let the devs do their hard work on these firmware updates to provide us with a truly impressive updated rom that we can flash safely, as long as your willing to follow their directions in doing so.
I had no temptation taking the OTA or Odin to downgrade to official 4.4.2, it seems to me the update took away more vital features than it was providing. Which again is why one should wait for their favorite devs to create their masterpieces out of the official releases, and tweak/fix any mishaps that were left in official kitkat firmware so we the people can have truly great running roms for our devices.
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So, we're about a month into the update and I'm curious how many have remained idle while the folks fine tune the kitkat experience. I'm still very pleased with the functionality of my device and aside from weak LTE signal, I have no complaints.
I am hence compelled to ask again--is it worth updating yet? Or do cons continue to outweigh the pros?
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So, we're about a month into the update and I'm curious how many have remained idle while the folks fine tune the kitkat experience. I'm still very pleased with the functionality of my device and aside from weak LTE signal, I have no complaints.
I am hence compelled to ask again--is it worth updating yet? Or do cons continue to outweigh the pros?
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I just saw there's a way to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox if you're on a rooted 4.3, so I'm going to give that a go tonight. I'll post back with my thoughts.
Good things come to those who wait!
I wouldn't update if I had to do it again. My phone is bootlooped and completely unfixable at the moment after installing the OTA update on a bone stock non rooted phone. Can't get into recovery, can't downgrade, can't do anything except reflash the stock 4.4 rom which never boots.
There are tons of complaints on the TMO customer support forums citing poor battery life and loss of certain functions. This could turn your phone into a paperweight. Not worth it.
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I just saw there's a way to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox if you're on a rooted 4.3, so I'm going to give that a go tonight. I'll post back with my thoughts.
Good things come to those who wait!
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Are you sure? I noticed that kingo updated their site with an exploit that--if I'm not mistaken--roots without tripping knox.
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Honestly, Anyone that takes an ota is a noob. Anyone that is It's all you ever hear when an ota hits that there is nothing but issuesused to android knows never take an ota until it's deemed safe to reroot. It's all you ever hear when an ota hits that there is nothing but issues. I never take Ota's as a general rule. Always wait for the ok to take an update, and even then sometimes it's never ok depending on the issues.
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Are you sure? I noticed that kingo updated their site with an exploit that--if I'm not mistaken--roots without tripping knox.
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It just worked for me. I'm rooted on 4.4.2 with knox 0x0.
Time to put it through the ringer!
This was my method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51766687&postcount=73
After some temptation to check out one of the growing number of ROMS in the dev forum, but am glad that I decided stick with Tweaked on 4.3. Probably won't update until Tweaked KK drops which doesn't sound like something that's going to be happening for quite a while.
How's that saying go?... "If it ain't broke, don't 'fix' it with a weak-ass update."
Earlier this month I found out that Sumsung started releasing 4.4.2 as an upgrade for almost all the Galaxy Devices. My phone (an S4) upgraded perfectly. But when I tried to upgrade my Note, it said it had been Modified. I have a GT-N5110 and used Auto-root to root. No custom recovery, boot, or rom. Is there any way I can update to Android Kitkat (4.4.2) without unrooting?
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Earlier this month I found out that Sumsung started releasing 4.4.2 as an upgrade for almost all the Galaxy Devices. My phone (an S4) upgraded perfectly. But when I tried to upgrade my Note, it said it had been Modified. I have a GT-N5110 and used Auto-root to root. No custom recovery, boot, or rom. Is there any way I can update to Android Kitkat (4.4.2) without unrooting?
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Get a custom ROM.
The system simply does not allow updates on Rooted devices.
varxtis said:
Earlier this month I found out that Sumsung started releasing 4.4.2 as an upgrade for almost all the Galaxy Devices. My phone (an S4) upgraded perfectly. But when I tried to upgrade my Note, it said it had been Modified. I have a GT-N5110 and used Auto-root to root. No custom recovery, boot, or rom. Is there any way I can update to Android Kitkat (4.4.2) without unrooting?
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Mobile Odin Pro.
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Mobile Odin Pro.
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How exactly does Mobile Odin Pro work? I have it downloaded from the Play Store, can you just place a firmware file on it and flash?
You would need to use PC Odin to update bootloader to KK, else Wifi will not work. Check Civato's KK Rom thread to see how you can upgrade your bootloader and install custom KK ROM.
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I appreciate everyones feedback. If you guys are even remotely familiar with my numerous posts throughout the forum you'll probably notice that I have no place in the rooting world lol. Auto-root is as "root" as I should go. I don't know why I can't seem to get the most basic and easiest of features or processes, but when it comes to bootloaders and custom roms Im all thumbs. It'll be much less frustrating for everyone if I stay as far away from that stuff as possible from now on. Thank you again anyway. I will just keep my ears out for any auto-root options.
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I appreciate everyones feedback. If you guys are even remotely familiar with my numerous posts throughout the forum you'll probably notice that I have no place in the rooting world lol. Auto-root is as "root" as I should go. I don't know why I can't seem to get the most basic and easiest of features or processes, but when it comes to bootloaders and custom roms Im all thumbs. It'll be much less frustrating for everyone if I stay as far away from that stuff as possible from now on. Thank you again anyway. I will just keep my ears out for any auto-root options.
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Hi Varxtis,
I was in your position as well, with a rooted tablet on 4.1.2 and wanting to update to 4.4.2. What I did was download Kies 2 from Samsung, and performed the upgrade through Kies. I didn't have to un-root manually. Kies performed the upgrade for me, but I lost root. What I did at that point was simply re-root with Auto-Root. I didn't have to do a wipe or anything. All my data was still intact, as was all the configuration of my rooted apps (except for AdAway which modified the hosts file on the system).
As an aside, after I upgraded to 4.4.2, I encountered poor accuracy with the S-Pen. The point registered by the screen is a few millimeters off from where the pen actually touches the screen.
Good luck!
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Hi Varxtis,
I was in your position as well, with a rooted tablet on 4.1.2 and wanting to update to 4.4.2. What I did was download Kies 2 from Samsung, and performed the upgrade through Kies. I didn't have to un-root manually. Kies performed the upgrade for me, but I lost root. What I did at that point was simply re-root with Auto-Root. I didn't have to do a wipe or anything. All my data was still intact, as was all the configuration of my rooted apps (except for AdAway which modified the hosts file on the system).
As an aside, after I upgraded to 4.4.2, I encountered poor accuracy with the S-Pen. The point registered by the screen is a few millimeters off from where the pen actually touches the screen.
Good luck!
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Oh wow, awesome. Thank you. I'll definitely consider trying that out, but the S-pen part is a bit disconcerting. I do a lot of drawing and games. Is the S-Pen being off caused by the auto-root presence, or because of KitKat. If it were a Note 8.0 completely stock, would the S-Pen still be off because of KitKat.
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Oh wow, awesome. Thank you. I'll definitely consider trying that out, but the S-pen part is a bit disconcerting. I do a lot of drawing and games. Is the S-Pen being off caused by the auto-root presence, or because of KitKat. If it were a Note 8.0 completely stock, would the S-Pen still be off because of KitKat.
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No, that's definitely KitKat. My friend also has a Note 8, completely stock and never rooted, and on KitKat the S-Pen is also off. If the pen accuracy is important to you, I would definitely seek more specific scenarios where you might want to upgrade, rather than just do it on a whim. The pen is super important to the purpose why I have the Note in the first place, and 4.1.2 was great for me. I am severely regretting my decision to take the update to KitKat.
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No, that's definitely KitKat. My friend also has a Note 8, completely stock and never rooted, and on KitKat the S-Pen is also off. If the pen accuracy is important to you, I would definitely seek more specific scenarios where you might want to upgrade, rather than just do it on a whim. The pen is super important to the purpose why I have the Note in the first place, and 4.1.2 was great for me. I am severely regretting my decision to take the update to KitKat.
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I wonder why I am the only one that can calibrate my S-pen... It should work on 4.4.2 just as well as on 4.1.2.
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No, that's definitely KitKat. My friend also has a Note 8, completely stock and never rooted, and on KitKat the S-Pen is also off. If the pen accuracy is important to you, I would definitely seek more specific scenarios where you might want to upgrade, rather than just do it on a whim. The pen is super important to the purpose why I have the Note in the first place, and 4.1.2 was great for me. I am severely regretting my decision to take the update to KitKat.
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Seems like those regretting far outweigh those happy with the update. The write restriction to 3rd pary apps was just completely ridiculous and out of line. "Sure, you can be in our app play store... but just know as of KitKat half of the features of your app won't work. Oh... your app is a PDF study app like EZPDF Reader? Well in that case 80% or your app won't work!" At least make it an "option" with the update that thoroughly explains the negative aspects of write restrictions. And then the S - Pen issue... Bug fixes my butt. I guess I'll just still with jellybean. Hope they don't force it like an xbox360/One or ps3/4 update.
Thank you again for the help.
I keep seeing reports about KitKat coming to the Note 8, but it's alwsays the 5100 and 5110 versions. Are we getting KitKat 4.4.2 for 5120 LTE Note 8?
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I keep seeing reports about KitKat coming to the Note 8, but it's alwsays the 5100 and 5110 versions. Are we getting KitKat 4.4.2 for 5120 LTE Note 8?
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Bump...Anybody know the answer?
harry_fine said:
Bump...Anybody know the answer?
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Hold on to your horses. It will come... probably by next month.
You can always check using OTA by going into About Device and tapping on Software Update to get the device to check manually.
Thanks. I'm new to the Note 8, just bought a lightly used one in Toronto, but now I'm starting to wonder if it will get an upgrade. Seems that the Canadian (and maybe AT&T) versions are the i467M, slightly different from other markets, and with such small market share, they are being forgotten.
My guess from looking at these threads is that if I tried to even put the 4.2.2 update for the 5120 on from late last year, it will brick my device since for some reason certain carriers, including all Canadian carriers, have a basterdized version of the hardware.
So it's possible I'm on 4.1.2 forever. But thanks for the reply.
Harry
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Thanks. I'm new to the Note 8, just bought a lightly used one in Toronto, but now I'm starting to wonder if it will get an upgrade. Seems that the Canadian (and maybe AT&T) versions are the i467M, slightly different from other markets, and with such small market share, they are being forgotten.
My guess from looking at these threads is that if I tried to even put the 4.2.2 update for the 5120 on from late last year, it will brick my device since for some reason certain carriers, including all Canadian carriers, have a basterdized version of the hardware.
So it's possible I'm on 4.1.2 forever. But thanks for the reply.
Harry
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Outside of a few games causing 4.1.2 to lockup or pause... 4.1.2 is fairly good. Though there are some things it does not share with 4.2.2. Until there is an update, you can always do what I have done to my 4.2.2... It works with 4.1.2 as well on the 5120.
Saferoot, and you will not void or cause the system to detect rooting. It leaves OTA and Kies available to update.
Run what I have in my list for signature, and be happy... A great improvement over having a basic stock ROM.
Though editing the build.prop is not difficult, you may want to search as there are plenty of threads with the info.
I use Solid Explorer Pro, though many like Root Explorer though it does not require rooting... if your rooting might as well use Solid, as it works well in landscape mode split screens, or swipe back and fourth in portrait.
the 4.4.2 can download at sammobile already, but super slow on my side, can anyone mirror it?
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Outside of a few games causing 4.1.2 to lockup or pause... 4.1.2 is fairly good. Though there are some things it does not share with 4.2.2. Until there is an update, you can always do what I have done to my 4.2.2... It works with 4.1.2 as well on the 5120.
Saferoot, and you will not void or cause the system to detect rooting. It leaves OTA and Kies available to update.
Run what I have in my list for signature, and be happy... A great improvement over having a basic stock ROM.
Though editing the build.prop is not difficult, you may want to search as there are plenty of threads with the info.
I use Solid Explorer Pro, though many like Root Explorer though it does not require rooting... if your rooting might as well use Solid, as it works well in landscape mode split screens, or swipe back and fourth in portrait.
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Thanks for all your help. I know of Wanam, have it on my S5, but unfortunately, it only works from 4.2 and up, not 4.1. My only issue is getting these regular 5 second pauses where my browser stops working, read about it online and 4.2 supposedly fixes it. Otherwise I think I would be OK with 4.1. Feel a bit ripped off, it's a fairly new tablet produced for Canadian carriers, and then they decide to completely abandon it at 4.1.
Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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bigdawg6183 said:
I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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DSTG said:
If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I wish it was that easy, but I ditched AT&T years ago and went to straight talk. These tabs I purchased second hand.
rmntruexjr said:
I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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No worries mate. Hmmm, if it was root that was stopping the update from showing it should have been the case on both tabs. Plus, mine was originally rooted when I searched for the update and it found it fine. You do definitely have to remove root to successfully update to 4.4, which totally blows, but with the SD card changes that came out in 4.4 I had to do it.