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How many people are waiting?

I was among the many who downloaded (immediately) the OTA, but amidst the frenzy, I ended up removing the update zip and I froze the Samsung/Google update process applications because I was wasn't willing to risk the inevitable compatability issues that arise on a new OS. I'm curious, though--how many others are wading the storm until development catches up? As it stands, this is the best phone I've ever had and I can't imagine risking functionality for the sake of being on the latest OS.
Also, when do you expect development catch up to provide a viable root method that doesn't trip knox, among other things? My guess is about 30 days.
Any thoughts?
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rhetorician said:
I was among the many who downloaded (immediately) the OTA, but amidst the frenzy, I ended up removing the update zip and I froze the Samsung/Google update process applications because I was wasn't willing to risk the inevitable compatability issues that arise on a new OS. I'm curious, though--how many others are wading the storm until development catches up? As it stands, this is the best phone I've ever had and I can't imagine risking functionality for the sake of being on the latest OS.
Also, when do you expect development catch up to provide a viable root method that doesn't trip knox, among other things? My guess is about 30 days.
Any thoughts?
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I am waiting almost indefinitely. Every now and then i restore back to stock just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. 4K video recording? Pffft, whatever. rapid-shot? samesies. I have an 18MP DSLR that can do all of those things much better if it's that important to me. Sure, I don't always have it in my pocket, but, compared to the professional grade those features don't even qualify as also-ran to me.
can't really think of a single thing that I miss from stock.
I got this phone the second my Jump was ready and I saw CM nightlies. Been on KK for a while now.
Now, if I were a fan of TW? I'd still sit tight and ride it out. There is nothing on KK that is all that amazing compared to JB. In fact, there are quite a few deficits.
On older versions of Android (I started out on Cupcake...guh) while I was still of the "don't take OTAs unless you want to risk your phone getting stuck on the new version or locked up tight" train...and this was before that ever started happening....and back then it was hard as hell because every update added _TONS_ of functionality and improved _TONS_ of things....I can't even describe how hard it was to delay OTAs back then. Nowadays we get evolution, not revolution, from every update. Tiny incremental stuff.
I'd say sit tight and wait it out, you aren't really missing anything.
...though when the ART (Android Runtime) replaces Dalvik, officially, on stock ROMs? That'll be the next big thing that would even get me considering just doing the damned update. I've got ART running and it is awesome. It's pretty much unnoticeable at first, especially if you go looking for the massive improvement. Then over the course of using your phone for a couple days you just start realizing "holy crap, that was fast"...but only over tiny little speed improvements....all over the damned place. It smooths out Android in ways I can't even describe (and that you can't even notice if you go looking for it).
Again, be patient. Just keep in the back of your mind that you never ever know if this next OTA is the one that locks down your bootloader. Sure, this one might be safe...maybe even the next one...hell, maybe all of them. But what if the next one is the one that finally does it? Not worth it. Your phone is awesome out of the box.

I rooted both my Note 3's just to keep from getting the update. So far I am seeing lots of people complain about different issues so I am glad I did. Overall it doesn't seem like the couple of positive changes are worth the risk. I still haven't seen a straight answer on if the bootloader is actually locked or not. This is the first phone I have had that has an unlocked bootloader so I have never really looked into the difference between locked and unlocked.

chipworkz said:
I rooted both my Note 3's just to keep from getting the update. So far I am seeing lots of people complain about different issues so I am glad I did. Overall it doesn't seem like the couple of positive changes are worth the risk. I still haven't seen a straight answer on if the bootloader is actually locked or not. This is the first phone I have had that has an unlocked bootloader so I have never really looked into the difference between locked and unlocked.
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I haven't really looked into it, but, I have been on phones (or have been helping out buddies with their phones) when an update locked a previously unlocked bootloader. The forums would be a ****-show. So I feel pretty confident that this did not lock down the bootloader to prevent custom kernels and/or recoveries...those are the deal-breakers. However, you cannot roll back to 4.3 after taking this official update, so far as I understand it. It's pretty standard stuff in this day and age.
That's another reason not to take it.

I didn't update right away. I waited a couple of days until a proven root method was out. Once that came out I went for it. I'm glad I did. I was already rooted before, and tripped KNOX, so that didn't bother me. 4.3 was great, and I didn't think this phone could get much better, but after a couple of days on 4.4.2 I'm seeing some good improvements. Better battery life, less resources used, smoother overall. I'm really liking it. Plus the GEL works great. Even the hot word detection works like on Nexus devices. I know a huge issue with 4.4.2 is the SD card not having write access, but I flashed the fix, so all works like it did on 4.3. Overall a really nice update. At least for me.

I agree with daneurysm, if your happy on 4.3 jellybean there's no need to rush and flash 4.4.2 just because it's available and adds a few new features (none that I see are must have). It is always best to wait it out a bit and let the devs do their hard work on these firmware updates to provide us with a truly impressive updated rom that we can flash safely, as long as your willing to follow their directions in doing so.
I had no temptation taking the OTA or Odin to downgrade to official 4.4.2, it seems to me the update took away more vital features than it was providing. Which again is why one should wait for their favorite devs to create their masterpieces out of the official releases, and tweak/fix any mishaps that were left in official kitkat firmware so we the people can have truly great running roms for our devices.
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So, we're about a month into the update and I'm curious how many have remained idle while the folks fine tune the kitkat experience. I'm still very pleased with the functionality of my device and aside from weak LTE signal, I have no complaints.
I am hence compelled to ask again--is it worth updating yet? Or do cons continue to outweigh the pros?
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rhetorician said:
So, we're about a month into the update and I'm curious how many have remained idle while the folks fine tune the kitkat experience. I'm still very pleased with the functionality of my device and aside from weak LTE signal, I have no complaints.
I am hence compelled to ask again--is it worth updating yet? Or do cons continue to outweigh the pros?
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I just saw there's a way to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox if you're on a rooted 4.3, so I'm going to give that a go tonight. I'll post back with my thoughts.
Good things come to those who wait!

I wouldn't update if I had to do it again. My phone is bootlooped and completely unfixable at the moment after installing the OTA update on a bone stock non rooted phone. Can't get into recovery, can't downgrade, can't do anything except reflash the stock 4.4 rom which never boots.
There are tons of complaints on the TMO customer support forums citing poor battery life and loss of certain functions. This could turn your phone into a paperweight. Not worth it.

drathian1 said:
I just saw there's a way to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox if you're on a rooted 4.3, so I'm going to give that a go tonight. I'll post back with my thoughts.
Good things come to those who wait!
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Are you sure? I noticed that kingo updated their site with an exploit that--if I'm not mistaken--roots without tripping knox.
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Honestly, Anyone that takes an ota is a noob. Anyone that is It's all you ever hear when an ota hits that there is nothing but issuesused to android knows never take an ota until it's deemed safe to reroot. It's all you ever hear when an ota hits that there is nothing but issues. I never take Ota's as a general rule. Always wait for the ok to take an update, and even then sometimes it's never ok depending on the issues.

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Are you sure? I noticed that kingo updated their site with an exploit that--if I'm not mistaken--roots without tripping knox.
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It just worked for me. I'm rooted on 4.4.2 with knox 0x0.
Time to put it through the ringer!
This was my method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51766687&postcount=73

After some temptation to check out one of the growing number of ROMS in the dev forum, but am glad that I decided stick with Tweaked on 4.3. Probably won't update until Tweaked KK drops which doesn't sound like something that's going to be happening for quite a while.
How's that saying go?... "If it ain't broke, don't 'fix' it with a weak-ass update."

[Q] Getting KitKat 4.4.2 for 5120 LTE Note 8?

I keep seeing reports about KitKat coming to the Note 8, but it's alwsays the 5100 and 5110 versions. Are we getting KitKat 4.4.2 for 5120 LTE Note 8?

harry_fine said:
I keep seeing reports about KitKat coming to the Note 8, but it's alwsays the 5100 and 5110 versions. Are we getting KitKat 4.4.2 for 5120 LTE Note 8?
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Bump...Anybody know the answer?

harry_fine said:
Bump...Anybody know the answer?
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Hold on to your horses. It will come... probably by next month.
You can always check using OTA by going into About Device and tapping on Software Update to get the device to check manually.

Thanks. I'm new to the Note 8, just bought a lightly used one in Toronto, but now I'm starting to wonder if it will get an upgrade. Seems that the Canadian (and maybe AT&T) versions are the i467M, slightly different from other markets, and with such small market share, they are being forgotten.
My guess from looking at these threads is that if I tried to even put the 4.2.2 update for the 5120 on from late last year, it will brick my device since for some reason certain carriers, including all Canadian carriers, have a basterdized version of the hardware.
So it's possible I'm on 4.1.2 forever. But thanks for the reply.
Harry

harry_fine said:
Thanks. I'm new to the Note 8, just bought a lightly used one in Toronto, but now I'm starting to wonder if it will get an upgrade. Seems that the Canadian (and maybe AT&T) versions are the i467M, slightly different from other markets, and with such small market share, they are being forgotten.
My guess from looking at these threads is that if I tried to even put the 4.2.2 update for the 5120 on from late last year, it will brick my device since for some reason certain carriers, including all Canadian carriers, have a basterdized version of the hardware.
So it's possible I'm on 4.1.2 forever. But thanks for the reply.
Harry
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Outside of a few games causing 4.1.2 to lockup or pause... 4.1.2 is fairly good. Though there are some things it does not share with 4.2.2. Until there is an update, you can always do what I have done to my 4.2.2... It works with 4.1.2 as well on the 5120.
Saferoot, and you will not void or cause the system to detect rooting. It leaves OTA and Kies available to update.
Run what I have in my list for signature, and be happy... A great improvement over having a basic stock ROM.
Though editing the build.prop is not difficult, you may want to search as there are plenty of threads with the info.
I use Solid Explorer Pro, though many like Root Explorer though it does not require rooting... if your rooting might as well use Solid, as it works well in landscape mode split screens, or swipe back and fourth in portrait.

the 4.4.2 can download at sammobile already, but super slow on my side, can anyone mirror it?

gooberdude said:
Outside of a few games causing 4.1.2 to lockup or pause... 4.1.2 is fairly good. Though there are some things it does not share with 4.2.2. Until there is an update, you can always do what I have done to my 4.2.2... It works with 4.1.2 as well on the 5120.
Saferoot, and you will not void or cause the system to detect rooting. It leaves OTA and Kies available to update.
Run what I have in my list for signature, and be happy... A great improvement over having a basic stock ROM.
Though editing the build.prop is not difficult, you may want to search as there are plenty of threads with the info.
I use Solid Explorer Pro, though many like Root Explorer though it does not require rooting... if your rooting might as well use Solid, as it works well in landscape mode split screens, or swipe back and fourth in portrait.
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Thanks for all your help. I know of Wanam, have it on my S5, but unfortunately, it only works from 4.2 and up, not 4.1. My only issue is getting these regular 5 second pauses where my browser stops working, read about it online and 4.2 supposedly fixes it. Otherwise I think I would be OK with 4.1. Feel a bit ripped off, it's a fairly new tablet produced for Canadian carriers, and then they decide to completely abandon it at 4.1.

Another future update?

I guess it's safe to say since Sprint is getting 4.4.4 that we're getting it as well? At some undetermined point of time of course.
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/Ec4E-ciZyhc/story01.htm
posted while using my note 3

I believe T-Mobile already implemented most of this in the NF4 update.
What I'm interested in is the Knox 2.0 (which I fear I might make rooting a stock device impossible) even with an unlocked bootloader.

Knox 2.0 was included in nf1 iirc. No hindrance.
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Yeah I saw kid mode. And if course we already received that in the last update.
posted while using my note 3

NF9 just came out, but still 4.4.2

penpower said:
NF9 just came out, but still 4.4.2
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Geez, third update on 4.4.2?! Not complaining, but poor devs!

jazzmachine said:
Geez, third update on 4.4.2?! Not complaining, but poor devs!
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Yea I just yelled at T-Mobile about this and questioning why Sprint has 4.4.4 and why also the S4 & S5 on T-Mobile are getting 4.4.4 but we are getting ANOTHER 4.4.2. They told me an update is coming today, I looked and it's nf9 that has "improved wifi calling". I yelled some more about myself wanting stable data connections & removal of mm-qbattery-daemon. ..they ignored me...I'm mad...why the S4 & S5 but the real flagship (our Notes) are being neglected!!!

Frankly, I have enough updating: waited until July with updating to KK (my wifi calling stopped working and finally there was easy rooting without setting Knox, so I broke down and updated). After update my battery usage went out of control, thanks to root I fixed it, but still not impressive. Phone works as well as it worked before, but don't see much improvements, except for wifi calling that's fixed now, but now SD card access is tricky, with some programs it's fine, others don't work, so unless there is something new I really want, I won't bother updating, especially that probably root will be broken again.
Too much one step forward, one step back with those upgrades, especially that my phone works fine as is now.

[Q] Couple of Questions

Update:
I found the Odin files at SamMobile, so that's a comfort. Shouldn't be any problem going back to ANIE but it might make more sense to just hold off until ANK2 gets integrated in some roms...or Lollipop release... that said, I'd still like to know if the ANIE CF-Auto-Root will work on ANK2 firmware, or if it's specific to the firmware listed, and if there will be an issues or lag as others have reported, or if that is a phone issue unrelated to root.
So I rarely post, but a couple of days ago I shattered my Note 2 digitizer. Long story short, it was cheaper (sort of) to swap from the old $80/mo plan to a $60/mo plan with easy pay for the Note 4. My situation is this: I've almost never gotten a phone when it first comes out. So I have a few questions I didn't see answers to.
1) CF Auto Root...Chainfire lists it as supporting ANIE firmware, but not the current update...ANK2? Does it work? Are there still issues?
2) Somewhat related to question 1, but the development seems stagnant for the Sprint Note 4 just 2 months after it says the phone was released. Is it because people are staying on the Note 3? Perhaps it just hasn't picked up yet? I have 14 days to return the phone, so I'd like to go where the action is while I still can.
3) I've been seeing people mention a lot of problems after rooting their Note...lag and such. Is it something I'd be better off waiting to do? It was never an issue with the Note 2...any insight as to how exactly installing busy box even could cause these issues?
4) Rooting trips KNOX. Knox is a physical (not purely software) indicator of tampering, I've seen? Does this matter? Does it void Sprint's TEP, etc.? I don't anticipate needing it, but nobody that loses or damages their phone typically does. Is there presently a way to ODIN back to stock, is there a yellow triangle hanging over my head constantly, etc. if I were to only root the stock ROM and not install a custom one? I realize a flash back to stock will not reset a physical trip of KNOX.
Thanks for taking the time to read through and lend a hand - as I said, I rarely post and try to find this stuff for myself. But it's been a bit much to track down and some of the questions don't lend to specific enough search terms.

Root os compatible with nk2 twrp too even the current custom roms are compatible
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GhostAssassin said:
Root os compatible with nk2 twrp too even the current custom roms are compatible
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Appreciated! What do you mean the current custom roms are supported, though? If they're based on ANIE, when I flash them wouldn't it overwrite NK2? I'm talking software not baseband/modem.
Thanks again!
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1)CF Autoroot works on the new build
2) A lot of devs from the Note 3 didnt feel it was worth the upgrade, but there are several talented devs on here..
3) Only lag had to do with xpose and it's a easy fix
4) Ive tripped Knox and had no issues what so ever with getting a repair or replacement from Sprint

jauger said:
1)CF Autoroot works on the new build
2) A lot of devs from the Note 3 didnt feel it was worth the upgrade, but there are several talented devs on here..
3) Only lag had to do with xpose and it's a easy fix
4) Ive tripped Knox and had no issues what so ever with getting a repair or replacement from Sprint
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Lag due to xpose...so I need to install the Xposed framework? I was hoping to simply root and leave everything else stock, if possible. Or you mean the custom roms using Xposed framework had to make a fix for it?
Thank you! Very much appreciate the response!
Update: Got it rooted, installed Wanam Xposed, enabled the Secure Storage bypass thingy for S Health and Private mode, as well as disabling ro.securestorage in build.prop. Success I hope. Thanks again for the push in the right direction guys!

[SM-T217A] Success with SRSRoot?

Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..

geokhentix said:
Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677

bigdawg6183 said:
Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.

rmntruexjr said:
These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?

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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..

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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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DSTG said:
If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I wish it was that easy, but I ditched AT&T years ago and went to straight talk. These tabs I purchased second hand.

rmntruexjr said:
I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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No worries mate. Hmmm, if it was root that was stopping the update from showing it should have been the case on both tabs. Plus, mine was originally rooted when I searched for the update and it found it fine. You do definitely have to remove root to successfully update to 4.4, which totally blows, but with the SD card changes that came out in 4.4 I had to do it.