Hi, new to this forum and relatively new to Android as well. I've searched and read through google and the forum, but not able to find an answer to my specific question.
I'm in the UK, and recently bought a HTC One M8 that was previously locked to O2 but now unlocked and using it on Three. The phone has carrier branding - O2 startup and shut down animations. The phone to my knowledge has never been rooted. I'm on 4.4.3 and software version 2.22.206.6.
I would like to remove the carrier branding and still remain unrooted/ untampered etc (due to work email integration restrictions in my company). I currently do get OTA updates but not sure if getting from HTC or O2. I would preferably like to get OTA from HTC direct in future and skip O2 as it's supposed to be quicker.
My questions:
Is software version same as firmware?
I assume that to remove the carrier branding, I'll have to flash the ROM. I've read that I don't need root to do this. But what exactly would I need to do? Appreciate if a guru could point me in the right direction.
I've read articles that mention stock recovery. Is my recovery "stock" if the phone has carrier branding? My assumption is stock refers to the vanilla version if buying from HTC directly. I don't know if O2 packages the phone with a custom recovery?
Thanks in advance.
No. You need root (aka... disabled write protection) to alter sysyem files, which the bootlogo is one of.
halfwaymark said:
I would like to remove the carrier branding and still remain unrooted/ untampered etc (due to work email integration restrictions in my company).
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I don't have that problem... Can't keep my phone that I paid for the way I want i.e Tampered, unlocked, fun ...Then keep the e-mails, I got better things to do in my time at home. If you want me to get it away from my work place then don't give me crap like "integration policies", if that's an issue supply me with a company paid phone.
I assume that to remove the carrier branding, I'll have to flash the ROM. I've read that I don't need root to do this. But what exactly would I need to do? Appreciate if a guru could point me in the right direction.
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You need to have your bootloader unlocked to flash ROMs. The moment you unlock it and flash a custom recovery is the moment your phone shows "Tampered", no more emails for you then
I've read articles that mention stock recovery. Is my recovery "stock" if the phone has carrier branding? My assumption is stock refers to the vanilla version if buying from HTC directly. I don't know if O2 packages the phone with a custom recovery?
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Stock recovery refers to the recovery that comes with the phone when you bought it. Custom recoveries are like TWRP/Philz. If you haven't done any changes to the phone and you bought it new from the store then you still have stock recovery. Whether the carrier made changes to it(doubt it though) or not is irrelevant as it's stock to the device(as bought) and not custom build by 3rd parties so to speak.
The only way I see, if you want to have an M8 without carrier branding to fit your companies security policies is to unlock bootloader and S-Off, change CID/MID, flash HTC stock ROM and firmware and then lock bootloader, remove tempered flag, and go S-On again.
It's some work to do in any case, but if your done your phone will be stock HTC WWE.
On the other hand I got a company paid phone as well, after I told them not to accept their company "security and integration policies" with respect to my private paid M8. I told them that if they wanted me to get my business mails on my private M8, they just had to accept the fact that with my property I'm gonna do what I like to do with it.
HTCNerdYoda said:
The only way I see, if you want to have an M8 without carrier branding to fit you companies security policies is to unlock bootloader and S-Off, change CID/MID, flash HTC stock ROM and firmware and then lock bootloader, remove tempered flag, and go S-On again.
It's some work to do in any case, but if your done your phone will be stock HTC WWE.
On the other hand I got a company paid phone as well, after I told them not to accept their company "security and integration policies" with respect to my private paid M8. I told them that if they wanted me to get my business mails on my private M8, they just had to accept the fact that with my property I'm gonna do what I like to do with it.
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Exactly, if they paid and gave the phone, it's something entirely different. If you pay for it and they still want to enforce crap like that, it's almost the same as expecting you to buy a car(with your money) so that you can go on business trips for them. If you "pimp" out YOUR ride with a turbo and some amazing sound system, they refuse to have you do your job because your car is contrary to their "health and safety" policies. They can then take that job and shove it
There is a workaround for that problem when rooted exchange bypass security I think it's called you can you xposed or its built into some roms
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change CID/MID
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Thanks for your reply. As a noob, I understand most of your post other than this. What CID/MID should I change to?
the CID/MID has to be changed as they are checked by the OTA update server, thus you have to have one that fits the OS and firmware, for the update to be installed. So e.g. if you want to unbranded your One M8 you got to change CID to an original HTC-CID as well
After I gained S-Off, I changed to CID HTC__001 (HTC carrier ID - had a T-MOB CID before) as well as MID 0P6B10000. This is one of the WWE combinations. As soon I had done this I went on installing the WWE Backup 2.22.401.5 as well as the corresponding firmware. Thus I receive updates as soon as they get released by HTC, and haven't to wait for the carrier to approve it in the one hand, and don't have any T-Mobile bloatware or changes to the OS on the other hand. Just pure HTC Stock.
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Hey guys, I've asked this question in several places so far with no luck, was wondering if you would be kind enough to help please?
I have an unlocked htc m8 cid 2___001 running 1.54.206.10, I have a constant nag of an ota update that I can't install (rooted) I want to ideally unroot and flash back to it's original state - can't find cid 2___001 nor 1.54.20.10 anywhere OR install a custom rom and firmware.
I've downloaded several firmwares including the popular 2.22.401.5 amongst others, but none take as I'm told they are the wrong version. I assume the cid is the issue? Any ideas how I can get around this please? I'm totally stuck now and getting any help is almost impossible, sadly.
Thank you in advance.
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Apologies for this post if it's been done many times before but I've been digging around now for hours and keep finding conflicting advice on problems I will run into so I just need someone to clarify if it's possible and what I need to do to ensure I don't loose wifi access or brick my phone or anything like that....
I bought a HTC Desire locked to Orange (UK) yesterday and I would like to get it unlocked and debranded. The unlocking part should not be a prob as I'll just buy a code from somewhere (or thats the hope anyhow) but when it comes to reflashing to debrand I keep coming across posts about wifi issues or OTA updates making progs force close, thus the Desire becoming unstable.
All I want to know is..... How do I get rid of all the Orange crap and go to a generic HTC Desire ROM so it would be like I bought a retail Desire? Is this possible without messing up my phone?? I'm currently on 02 (UK) but also bought an Orange PAYG sim just incase things get overly complicated. I would like to stick with my 02 sim but don't want to run into any probs with my phone, and if needs be I could switch over to Orange but that would be my last resort. I would also like to get rid of the Orange flash screen and the Orange apps that came preinstalled on my phone. Some posts say it's possible, some posts say I will have issues with the radio version, some posts say I will loose wifi and the Desire will turn unstable (lots of force closed prompts). If I did manage to go back to the retail Desire ROM, would I then run into probs with OTA updates?
Sorry if this question is proper nooby, but in truth that's exactly what I am and I'm getting totally lost!! After hours of digging I thought I'd just post this up and see if someone can clarify the situation before I dig in and start flashing. Better to be safe than sorry and all that.
Any help would be appreciated!!
With an orange branded desire, you'll definitely have to unlock it - i did with mine, although i discovered that after i'd flashed it
the only think i would advise you to do is to read up on the various rom threads - the first couple of posts in each thread will tell you what each rom does and will invariably give you a couple of screenshots as well.
that way you can decide which one you want in the firsts instance. then i'd skip to the end of the thread and read back a few pages from that point, so you'll get an idea of what problems (if any) people are still having.
it really comes down to personal preference and taking a chance - most, if not all of the roms on here are working and stable and won't really give you many problems.
Yea its an eyesore to say the least is that filthy orange branding
get it debranded first using a goldcard and flashed with rooted generic rom
then purchase sim unlock code to use your o2.
then update and mod to your hearts "desire"
Firstly, thanks for your quick replies! I had a feeling this was going to be a bit of a mission!!
Ok, so say I've unlocked and unbranded my phone. What happens with OTA updates from there on in? Is it just a case of doing them manually and switching off auto OTA? I read somewhere that by flashing with a rooted ROM it will block OTA from updating to prevent the phone getting locked or becoming unstable, is that right?
Also, this may be a stupid question but if it's flashed to a generic HTC ROM then where does it contact for the updates? I was figuring as soon as I'd gotten rid of the Orange fw that it would no longer be looking for the Orange'd ROM update but after reading this doesn't seem to be the case?
Please forgive me if I'm being ignorant, I've gone from a Nokia 1600 (lol) to a HTC Desire and trying to get my head around it all!!
I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
1. Do I unlock the phone 1st, ie. get an unlock code from orange.
2. do I then flash the generic firmware.
3. Is the sim lock stored in the radio part of the firmware?
I have unbranded/unlocked nokia n80`s and htc tync`s in the past, but I need to swat up on this linux stuff.
Any usefull advice welcomed, in the mean while I`ll keep reading
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
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I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
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Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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So can the simlock be removed by flashing a simfree radio rom??? I`m pretty sure this is what i did on an old tync to remove simlock.....but this was some time ago
you say the radio Rom you flashed caused the simlock, did you not have to supply the network provider as well as the IMIE to get the unlock code? or was this a generic Radio rom?
My wife has just got a htc desire HD on 3 and that is branded.
I have got a Samsung Galaxy S and i have unbranded that down loading a Manufacture Rom and that updates as normal.
Is there some software like odin for the Htc and were like samfirmware.com can i down load a Manufactures rom.
she went for this phone cos of the spec and she does not like my Samsung i was hoping the Htc community would be the same it is so easy to do and Samsung service centres checked my firmware and it was fine.
Most people just want there phone as Htc intended it to be
HTC finally launched their Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for Desire. I am using a Desire (telstra locked Android 2.1), downloaded the new update from the official website HTC website and now i have a completely unbranded HTC Desire with 2.3.3... NO GOLDCARD OR ROOT REQUIRED.
I just received my HOX today from Expansys, EU version I believe.
I plan to root, ROM and everything else I can do.
So, I've got a few questions on where I should go from here.
Should I install the OTA? Or should I wait just in case there's some unlock/s-off method related to older versions that get fixed/patched with the newer OTA?
Should I unlock via HTCDev or wait for devs to figure out unlock/s-off? As an app developer, I generally keep old phones laying around so I likely won't be selling it, and as long as the actual hardware is still under warranty, I'm not too concerned.
Is there a way to do a full backup of the phone as is? If I were to say, install CM9, do I need the full backup or can I just re-install a stock image?
Anything I should look at/inspect before I get too crazy with the phone? Serial number, where it's manufactured, specific defects, etc...?
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I just received my HOX today from Expansys, EU version I believe.
I plan to root, ROM and everything else I can do.
So, I've got a few questions on where I should go from here.
Should I install the OTA? Or should I wait just in case there's some unlock/s-off method related to older versions that get fixed/patched with the newer OTA?
Should I unlock via HTCDev or wait for devs to figure out unlock/s-off? As an app developer, I generally keep old phones laying around so I likely won't be selling it, and as long as the actual hardware is still under warranty, I'm not too concerned.
Is there a way to do a full backup of the phone as is? If I were to say, install CM9, do I need the full backup or can I just re-install a stock image?
Anything I should look at/inspect before I get too crazy with the phone? Serial number, where it's manufactured, specific defects, etc...?
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you should definitely install any OTA that you get. if there is an s-off method discovered, it will be time and it probably won't matter what version you're running. i don't know how it works, but these updates have important fixes. if you only update to 1.28, then it might be a long wait for another OTA so you have to decide for yourself if you want to wait or unlock. you can't do a backup without unlocking and installing CWM afaik. as for inspection, just use it normally and see what it does. i just noticed on mine in the sunlight the screen looks like a grid when it's off. that's not a flaw but some people would probably freak out and exchange it. if your whites are bright white and you have no dead pixels, then your phone is good.
If you aren't more concerned about warranty, unlock through htcdev.com, as s-off may take too long, I didn't see any update on that. Once you unlock through htcdev.com you're good for everything.
I suggest you to avoid installing OTAs if you have plans to unlock your device, as the s-off devs are currently working on hboot 0.4x version. If you update the phone with OTAs the hboot will be updated to 0.9x, so you have to find a way to get downgrade your bootloader to get s-off.
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Is it possible to flash a unlocked rom to a Tmobile version of the HTC 10? I've seen this done with SAmsung S7edge carrier to unlocked anf it worked. Guy said he hasnt had issues and this was on XDA.
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Is it possible to flash a unlocked rom to a Tmobile version of the HTC 10? I've seen this done with SAmsung S7edge carrier to unlocked anf it worked. Guy said he hasnt had issues and this was on XDA.
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Sure can, just pick a ROM that support multi-carrier, such as Viper, Leedroid, ICE.
When you flash the ROM, in aroma you will be presented with an option to choose carrier, pick Tmobile and good to go. :good:
I actually meant flashing a stock us unlocked rom
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I actually meant flashing a stock us unlocked rom
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Link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/samsung-sm-935u-firmware-install-guide-t3411451
Again this is Samsung but I couldn't see it not working with HTC as well
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I actually meant flashing a stock us unlocked rom
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To fully convert your device to us unlocked, you will need to s-off, using the paid sunshine app ($25). This is the only way you will be able to flash the US unlocked firmware. If you want to try keeping your tmo firmware and just try to use the US unlocked ROM, your best bet is to download a US unlocked backup and restore it with TWRP.
Stock backups are in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297
There isn't a 1.91 backup available yet, though. 1.80 is the best you can do.
So after I do this will it think my phone has beem untouched and allow for OTA? The person I spoke with about his Galaxy S7 he flashed the unlocked rom to from carrier says everything works as it was factory unlocked phone even samsung pay. I am hoping to do the same for my HTC
For instance direct firmware from HTC
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-10/news/
Hopefully it displays right but it has the direct download for the 1.91.617.1 or whatever the Unlocked one is. How would I flash this do my device amd make it think it's all factory to receive OTA updates still?
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For instance direct firmware from HTC
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-10/news/
Hopefully it displays right but it has the direct download for the 1.91.617.1 or whatever the Unlocked one is. How would I flash this do my device amd make it think it's all factory to receive OTA updates still?
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To use that file, you need to fully convert, which means using sunshine to s-off, then changing your cid and mid to match the us unlocked. Then you will have a fully functioning us unlocked device.
If you just want the US unlocked rom, then just restore a stock us unlocked backup in twrp. This will be mostly fully functioning, but you will still be in T-Mobile firmware (shouldn't be a problem as long as your on the newest T-Mobile firmware already) and you won't be able to get ota.
Is that the way i can flash the htcs website firmware?
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Is that the way i can flash the htcs website firmware?
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To use an RUU (ROM Update Utility) from HTC's website, you either have to use the one for your specific device OR you have to convert your device by using sunshine to s-off ($25) and changing your model id (probably not necessary as I'm 99% sure that TMO and US Unlocked use the same mid) and carrier id (definitely necessary) to match the RUU you want to flash.
Also, just for your education, I know Samsung people call everything firmware, but technically that's incorrect and in the HTC world, firmware refers to the actual firmware (like bootloader, modem, radio, etc) and ROM, or system, refers to the system files (like android framework, apps, system ui, etc).
There is a thread in the Guide section that details using Sunshine to S-Off.
And see post #3 in this thread about converting a device to WWE (World Wide Edition) using RUU. The steps to convert to US Unlocked are identical EXCEPT for the following:
Step 7:
CID for US Unlocked is BS_US001
MID for US Unlocked is 2PS650000
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Get the US Unlocked RUU.zip from here
Once you do that, you will have a 100% fully functioning US Unlocked device. The only difference from a factory provided US Unlocked device will be the text on the rear housing.
Thank you all for helping I've only flased a few times and it still is complicated to me.
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Thank you all for helping I've only flased a few times and it still is complicated to me.
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No problem. Can I ask what you would like to accomplish with the US Unlocked rom as opposed to T-Mobile? Just debloat?
I'm worried Tmobile has abandoned the 10. They don't list it online, most stores do not have stock anymore, and the ones that do have few left due to initial shipment. New roms have been out and Tmobile has yet to keep it updated, software only has a few added apps other than that unlocked vs Tmobile roms are the same. Both Roms support VoLTE, Band 12, and Wi-Fi calling. I want faster updates. I love my HTC 10 except it has a few bugs in radios i.e. wifi and LTE. I have no clue if Tmobile will continue to support it, they claim they will but have yet to update the device.
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I'm worried Tmobile has abandoned the 10. They don't list it online, most stores do not have stock anymore, and the ones that do have few left due to initial shipment. New roms have been out and Tmobile has yet to keep it updated, software only has a few added apps other than that unlocked vs Tmobile roms are the same. Both Roms support VoLTE, Band 12, and Wi-Fi calling. I want faster updates. I love my HTC 10 except it has a few bugs in radios i.e. wifi and LTE. I have no clue if Tmobile will continue to support it, they claim they will but have yet to update the device.
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I hear you. Then you need to do the full conversion to accomplish that. Just follow the guide I linked to exactly and if you don't understand something, just ask before doing anything. It's not really novice level, but it's hardly rocket science and everything is pretty well laid out in writing. Good luck
I followed the s-off step, changed my cid, used HTCs RUU and flashed it. It's starting up now.
What does this mean? Cause I'm S-off? How do I S-on? I flashed by being s-off but locked should i have been unlocked?
Is this a good sign?
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What does this mean? Cause I'm S-off? How do I S-on? I flashed by being s-off but locked should i have been unlocked?
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Is this a good sign?
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That's normal. Looks good. The Sunshine guys suggest locked is preferred.
Don't play around with going s-on until you need to return the phone or sell it. It's not necessary and if you don't do something right can brick the phone.
Anyone with a unlocked US HTC 10 is it typical for it to ask which carrier after inserting sum. Restarting?
Hi,
I recently purchased a HTC One M8 Verizon here in Brazil and want to know how to change/convert/remove completely the Verizon ROM to a Unbranded Official Stock ROM?! I searched all over Google/xda and found absolutely nothing concrete about this.
I only want the Stock Official ROM, not interested in any Custom ROM due to the difficulty to install and also instability.
Anyone help me?
Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
I can tell you concrete that you should not attempt to "fully convert" to any other version by flashing another version's RUU or firmware. Other firmware/RUUs are not compatible with the Verizon version, it won't work, and it can possibly result in a permanent radio brick!
So that pretty much excludes any fully "official" ROM/RUU.
Your only option then is to s-off the phone by sunshine ($25 US) since the Verizon version can not be bootloader unlocked via HTCDev.com. Then you can unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery TWRP, and flash a stock-ish ROM that meets your needs and preferences. You will also need to make sure you use a ROM that supports the Verizon variant, since it uses a different kernel from most other M8 vesions.
In short, the Verizon version (along with Sprint) are the worst M8 version for any folks outside of customers on those actual carriers (Verizon and Sprint) in the US. The Verizon version is especially bad, since unlocking the bootloader by HTCDev.com is blocked.
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I only want the Stock Official ROM, not interested in any Custom ROM due to the difficulty to install and also instability.
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You won't be able to install another M8 version's stock RUU, as already mentioned. So a TWRP-flashable ROM is your only choice (besides staying stock Verizon).
Also, your misgivings about the instability of custom ROMs is incorrect, and not based on any reason evidence. There are plenty of stable custom ROMs, which also make the phone more functional by removing useless carrier bloat, and remove carrier restrictions like the tethering block.
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I can tell you concrete that you should not attempt to "fully convert" to any other version by flashing another version's RUU or firmware. Other firmware/RUUs are not compatible with the Verizon version, it won't work, and it can possibly result in a permanent radio brick!
So that pretty much excludes any fully "official" ROM/RUU.
Your only option then is to s-off the phone by sunshine ($25 US) since the Verizon version can not be bootloader unlocked via HTCDev.com. Then you can unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery TWRP, and flash a stock-ish ROM that meets your needs and preferences. You will also need to make sure you use a ROM that supports the Verizon variant, since it uses a different kernel from most other M8 vesions.
In short, the Verizon version (along with Sprint) are the worst M8 version for any folks outside of customers on those actual carriers (Verizon and Sprint) in the US. The Verizon version is especially bad, since unlocking the bootloader by HTCDev.com is blocked.
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You won't be able to install another M8 version's stock RUU, as already mentioned. So a TWRP-flashable ROM is your only choice (besides staying stock Verizon).
Also, your misgivings about the instability of custom ROMs is incorrect, and not based on any reason evidence. There are plenty of stable custom ROMs, which also make the phone more functional by removing useless carrier bloat, and remove carrier restrictions like the tethering block.
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Thanks for repply!
I totally regretted buying this smartphone!!!
Now, what's the best thing to do? Where do I start?
The issue of not wanting a "Custom ROM" is that I hate the tweaks that have to be done to get install and stable and also do not want to lose the look and functions of HTC Sense. What ROM most clean, simple to install and sense visual based do u recommend for me?
Anyway, any rom I install will have to pay the $ 25.00 to unlock via Sunshine? Why dont have this for Free?
Thanks!
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Now, what's the best thing to do? Where do I start?
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You should start by reading, researching, and learning. It's apparent that you are missing a lot of knowledge about this device, in particular the Verizon version.
In fact, such research would have prevented the mistake of buying the Verizon version M8, in the first place.
From there (after reading and learning) you will need to do kingroot to get root, then sunshine s-off, unlock bootloader. Then you can install TWRP and flash a custom ROM.
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The issue of not wanting a "ROM Stock" is that I hate the tweaks that have to be done to get install and stable and also do not want to lose the look and functions of HTC Sense. What ROM most clean, simple to install and sense visual based do u recommend for me?
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Your "hate" of the tweaks is misplaced. Even on a non-Verizon device, in order to install another version's official ROM, you would need s-off (which requires root) and to change CID. So even to change to a stock ROM, takes significant modifications. But again, do not attempt to do this on your Verizon device; as doing so is dangerous.
You are also not understanding the concept of custom ROMs properly. A custom ROM can still be Sense based. It's only the AOSP ROMs (Lineage, Resurrection Remix, etc.) and the Google Play Edition (GPE) ROMs which do not contain the Sense features and look.
There are a number of Verizon-compatible Sense custom ROMs, which are stable and quite good, including Viper, S.ROM, Wolla, and others.
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Anyway, any rom I install will have to pay the $ 25.00 to unlock via Sunshine? Why dont have this for Free?
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Unfortunately, for the Verizon version (and only the Verizon version) you need s-off in order to unlock the bootloader (which is required in order to flash custom recovery TWRP and flash ROMs). And sunshine is the only currently working method for s-off.
On most all other versions of the M8 (except Verizon) you can unlock the bootloader through HTCDev.com, which costs no money. You can thank Verizon for having this feature blocked.
As to why sunshine costs money, they developers have contributed lots of work to XDA, previously only working for donations. But they spent hundreds of hours working on sunshine, and bricked several devices in the process. Charging for s-off is simply so they can recoup there loses. If you ask "why isn't it free" then I ask you, would you do all that for free?
You may not like it, but it is what it is. You can search and read if you want to learn more about this topic. But it has literally been argued on both sides for dozens and dozens of forum pages. There is no complaint you can make about this, that hasn't already been made before.
HELP!
I think I have the same problem, Can any one guide me or give me somewhere to learn and help my self??
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I think I have the same problem, Can any one guide me or give me somewhere to learn and help my self??
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You should explain your problem in detail, not just say you have the "same problem".
I already explained to the OP, that trying to "fully convert" with stock RUU will brick the phone.
I bought this new off eBay for development only. I have no plans to Activate it.
I would love to just run RUU for Android 6, 7, or 8 as needed.
Which RUU's do I need for a 2PS6400
I'm confuse what this phone is. It was advertised as "Sprint Unlocked". It was brand new sealed.
I put an old Sprint SIM in it, just to get rid of some warnings and wasn't sure if it would help GPS quality by pinging towers. GPS is running pretty poorly. Runs fine on Deactivated M9.
It doesn't have any Sprint Crap on it, which is really nice.
I would like to avoid S-OFF and rooting if possible. But I don't mind using the ZIP RUU on the SD Card to switch.
I just noticed this thread of someone switching from Nougat to Marshmallow but he was S_OFF, Rooted, TWRP etc.
But based on the Video he posted to finally make it work, if he put the ZIP on the SD Card my recollection is S-OFF wouldn't matter.
Anything other than RUU makes me nervous trying to go backwards manually flashing old firmware with S-OFF (with partition changes etc.).
I've also lost S-OFF that I paid for in the M9. I don't mind at all in paying once, but I'm not paying multiple times.
Also it shows 2.42.651.66 Are their Android 7 updates I can apply?
If I check for software updates, it might kick off the Android 8 update and I may not be able to stop it. What are my options there?
boot into download mode. If it was a true brand new sprint phone that was unlocked it would still have sprint apps. People on ebay are either buying new phones and flashing new roms themselves or buying new phones thatve been flashed by some other company.
Hold vol down and power button until the htc logo lights up and it should boot into download mode. Take note of the red colored data up top and write down the radio and os. Also do a imei and serial number check. If its anything other than an htc 10 send it back
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I bought this new off eBay for development only. I have no plans to Activate it.
I would love to just run RUU for Android 6, 7, or 8 as needed.
Which RUU's do I need for a 2PS6400
I'm confuse what this phone is. It was advertised as "Sprint Unlocked". It was brand new sealed.
I put an old Sprint SIM in it, just to get rid of some warnings and wasn't sure if it would help GPS quality by pinging towers. GPS is running pretty poorly. Runs fine on Deactivated M9.
It doesn't have any Sprint Crap on it, which is really nice.
I would like to avoid S-OFF and rooting if possible. But I don't mind using the ZIP RUU on the SD Card to switch.
I just noticed this thread of someone switching from Nougat to Marshmallow but he was S_OFF, Rooted, TWRP etc.
But based on the Video he posted to finally make it work, if he put the ZIP on the SD Card my recollection is S-OFF wouldn't matter.
Anything other than RUU makes me nervous trying to go backwards manually flashing old firmware with S-OFF (with partition changes etc.).
I've also lost S-OFF that I paid for in the M9. I don't mind at all in paying once, but I'm not paying multiple times.
Also it shows 2.42.651.66 Are their Android 7 updates I can apply?
If I check for software updates, it might kick off the Android 8 update and I may not be able to stop it. What are my options there?
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The last update for the Sprint HTC 10 was for 2.51.651.31
You can download the RUU.exe directly from HTC for it, or you could check for updates in settings > about for the OTA
Here's a link for the RUU.exe Scroll down to the "Manual System Update Instructions" and read them. The download is at the end of the instructions.
If you would prefer to flash the RUU via your SD card, or you don't have a Windows computer (you need one for the .exe), let me know and I'll extract the ROM.zip (RUU.zip) for you so you can flash it that way. You could also probably just find the .zip with a Google search.
EDIT: Apparently Sprint has released Oreo via OTA, but there isn't an RUU for it yet
Cool it's already S-Off, Unlocked. I think it's an "HTC 10 Unlocked/Developer" but it's hard to confirm a matching RUU with the 2PS6400 model number.
It was factory sealed. But I still don't know what RUU's are safe to use with it.
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mswlogo said:
Cool it's already S-Off, Unlocked. I think it's an "HTC 10 Unlocked/Developer" but it's hard to confirm a matching RUU with the 2PS6400 model number.
It was factory sealed. But I still don't know what RUU's are safe to use with it.
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Hmmm, well 2PS640000 is Sprint's MID so you should be careful with that. In general flashing, GSM firmware to a CDMA phone can be dangerous and lead to a brick. There is a way to convert the HTC 10, but I'm not up to speed on it. Since your phone is S-Off I have a feeling someone might have done that. You could try to do an ESN check with the IMEI and see what that brings up as far as what is was originally.
US Unlocked's MID is 2PS650000, and with your current MID you wouldn't be able to flash a US Unlocked RUU
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Hmmm, well 2PS640000 is Sprint's MID so you should be careful with that. In general flashing, GSM firmware to a CDMA phone can be dangerous and lead to a brick. There is a way to convert the HTC 10, but I'm not up to speed on it. Since your phone is S-Off I have a feeling someone might have done that. You could try to do an ESN check with the IMEI and see what that brings up as far as what is was originally.
US Unlocked's MID is 2PS650000, and with your current MID you wouldn't be able to flash a US Unlocked RUU
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Nobody did anything to it. He sold 60 of them and it was clearly factory sealed. I see it mentioned a lot when googling around with other people just as puzzled exactly what it is. It's some sort of developer phone.
Someone had a 2PS500 as well that sounded identical. It had S-Off and same bare bones Sprint firmware version.
Ting says it will activate. But it says no on other carriers. I don't care though, but if I ever sold it, it looks like Ting (at least) would work.
It would not let the Unlocked ( *.617.*) RUU Run firmware flash.
The current firmware it had is 2.42.651.66 which is a Sprint Variant.
The CID is set to 1111111
So I tried the Sprint 2.51.651.31 RUU update and it flashed fine. And now has all the Sprint Garbage on it. I don't care. I now know what I can flash to it or not.
It still shows S-Off and Unlocked and Official after Sprint RUU.
It would be nice to know if I could safely flash the Oreo Sprint RUU (which I highly suspect will also flash fine once released) and then go BACK to the Nougat Sprint one as needed back and forth.
Since it's S-Off etc. It would be handy to be to test Android 7 and 8 with one phone.
If I bricked it, I can return for 30 days. So I rather brick it now than later
I took a shot at updating to Android 8 OTA and it worked fine. Will test if I can flash back to Android 7 with the same RUU I used above.
I can't get a very good GPS lock on this thing. Every other deactivated phone I have can get a good lock.
sounds a bit like mine... a 2PS6500, came pre-Soff with SuperCID 111111 and MID converted to 2PS6200... had Nougat WWE.401 installed & GPS was great.
once i took the OTA to Oreo, i now have issues with GPS, as I can see all the satellites, but can't get any GPS-lock at all anymore
I can still get a gps lock just not a great one and sluggish to get a lock.
Tried flashing back to Android 7 with the RUU (I used earlier), no go. Once Android 8 is on their seems no easy way of going back and I'm not gonna try manually doing it as I'll brick it for sure.
Gonna probably send it back. I was willing to live with marginal GPS (which I need for my app debug) but was going to keep it if I could easily switch between Android 7 and 8 (and back).
But it doesn't look that way.
Charger just died too.
kimba99 said:
sounds a bit like mine... a 2PS6500, came pre-Soff with SuperCID 111111 and MID converted to 2PS6200... had Nougat WWE.401 installed & GPS was great.
once i took the OTA to Oreo, i now have issues with GPS, as I can see all the satellites, but can't get any GPS-lock at all anymore
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Did you find a solution?
I think I have the same phone from ebay - pre-Soff Sprint that was converted.
And no GPS lock. (running Oreo US Unlocked.)
JohnSoong said:
Did you find a solution?
I think I have the same phone from ebay - pre-Soff Sprint that was converted.
And no GPS lock. (running Oreo US Unlocked.)
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unfortunately no... still trying to hunt for a solution. so yours was a 2PS6400 before... sprint? mine was a 2PS6500 though, as written on its backside (XC edition with 64GB internal btw)
mswlogo said:
Tried flashing back to Android 7 with the RUU (I used earlier), no go. Once Android 8 is on their seems no easy way of going back and I'm not gonna try manually doing it as I'll brick it for sure.
Gonna probably send it back. I was willing to live with marginal GPS (which I need for my app debug) but was going to keep it if I could easily switch between Android 7 and 8 (and back).
But it doesn't look that way.
Charger just died too.
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Just a follow up. I sent mine back. Got a new real Verizon one for $200.00 on eBay (had no box but it looks new with fairly recent build date too). Works perfect, including GPS without being activated.
I had to manually flash it to the last Android 7 update via adb/fastboot couldn't do it OTA (WIFI) which I thought was a little odd.