My Tmo S3 is getting old and cranky apparently. Not sure what else to try, perhaps someone can weigh in?
1. I'm running CM11. I have tried other ROMs, all had the same issues.
2. It charges best with my Qi charger, as my daughter tripped on my charging cable once and it pulled out. It will still charge via USB, but slowly.
3. I have tried ART and Dalvik. No difference in battery life.
4. I've tried another battery. Also no difference.
5. I've tried Trebuchet, GNL and Nova.
6. I've tried installing Xposed with a couple of modules (not at the same time) one to help with wakelocks and one to help minimize Google's location checks.
7. I've tried taking out my Sandisk micro card. No difference.
It slows way down sometimes, generally when there are a couple of things going on but not always. For example, I got to work a few days ago, at an unfamiliar location. My phone was in the car cradle, plugged in to the car charger (bought from Tmo for the phone). Google Maps was running to nav me. I unplugged it, stopped Maps and tried to text my husband that I'd arrived. It would load Hangouts but never the conversation. Just the spinning circle. I needed to get in to the classroom. Rebooted, it booted then booted itself again, I could finally text him, but it was still hanging. When I would type, all the letters (google keyboard) would stay "lit up" so I couldn't see the keyboard.
Sometimes I get audio notifications, sometimes not. Sometimes it rings, sometimes not. Sometimes while I'm looking at the hangouts conversation it'll ding that I have a new message but the message won't show up for another minute or two.
Any other ideas? I'd really like to not have to buy another phone, but I'm beginning to wonder if this one is just done.
Frustrating because I used to run GNL, have "Ok, Google" enabled from any screen, have my Twitter update once an hour, have weather update once an hour, and now I've uninstalled Twitter, my weather updates manually (so no severe weather warnings...), I've ditched GNL and turned off "Ok, google." It isn't like my phone wasn't running these things.
Example: Today I had to go shopping for household and grocery items. Each time I was in the vehicle the phone was plugged in. The drive into town, between stores, while I ate lunch in the van. It was full 99% when I left home. 4 hours later it was at 29%...plugged in. I tried both the car charger and a brand new USB cable plugged into my FM transmitter.
I kinda have a feeling its got to do with how you're charging it. USB and car chargers generally don't push more than 500ma, where a good wall charger will be rated between 1-2A. No idea about wireless charging but I'd suspect they charge with a lower current. I could be wrong though.
Anyway, it also matters what cables you use. Many replacement charging cables won't handle the higher current. So even if you are using a good charger, a cheap cable can reduce any benefit expected. Over time, this all may have a negative effect on how much voltage the battery can push out to the device, impacting performance. Plus as the battery gets old this naturally happens anyway so the effect could be combined.
It also might help to start over fresh with your system and apps. Flash firmware via Odin first. (This would be a good time to test things while fully stock). Then reflash your ROM and only restore essential data. Reinstall everything else and start clean.
If you have the same problems, especially while stock, and a new battery doesn't help, it is possible some hardware has started to degrade due to age.
Whatever the problem may be though, backup your important data off-device soon, just in case.
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Thank you for your input, DocHoliday. I appreciate your wisdom. Up until about a month ago, I'd used the OEM wall charger and cable. We wondered about the cable so my husband bought me a good replacement. We definitely try to stuck with good quality, our phones are investments we can't afford to replace if we can help it.
I do believe we're going to ODIN to stock tomorrow. I need my husband's help on that one. I've never dealt with ODIN, only installing zip or the CM installer. If we can save it and make it stable we'll pass it to our daughter. I gave up and bought a Moto G.
I'm really interested though in what the outcome will be with stock. I have, indeed, tried what you suggested as far as starting fresh with system and apps. Yesterday I did a full wipe, wiped /system, cache, Dalvik. Signed in to Google and put only what I needed back on.
Thanks again for the advice. I'll report back after running stock a few days.
For people who have never used it, Odin can sound a lot more intimidating than it really is. It's really quite simple though, so if you find you have to do it on your own at some point, I'm sure you'll be just fine.
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Thank you for that vote of confidence. I can always cover up Touchwiz with Nova, right? ?
Yup!
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This has been a problem through the last two Dashes that I have owned. This was on the previous Dash posted last December. I am awaiting my 4th Dash! I am hoping that, with someone on here's help, this one will be the one that will work!
My Dash has had 6.1 then I went back to 6.0 after having this problem:
Initially this would occur when I would try to access the internet, email, etc. it would just shut down. Now the problem occurs when in a call as well. The Dash shuts down. I would try to reboot but it reads my battery as dead. I tried different batteries, same problem. THe only way to reboot is to plug into recharge. It will reboot but still reads the battery as 0%. When I reboot on power after the initial reboot, it reads the battery as full again. I can keep the Dash on for awhile but, when receiving a call or when it tries to get email (not All the time, just most of the time) it shuts down again.
I took the phone to a repair shop and they replaced the circuit board but it still did the same thing. After reading this thread, the constant is the memory card. Could this be the problem?
I received the Dash Black to replace it two weeks ago and virtually the same thing happened. This was after just two weeks of having the new Dash Black!
Exclamation HELP! - Dash Black - 6.1 Rose - MMS, Internet connectivity problems
I am not sure what is going on, my Dash was connecting fine but all of a sudden, it is trying to connect to email and draining the battery in the process. It is also failing to download weather info on the widget on the home screen. Memory is being drained and RAM is loaded down more and more. I cannot connect to MMS anymore (That was the first sign of trouble) and it seems to take forever to go from one part of the home screen to another.
I actually had a similar problem with the previous Dash that I had which culminated in it finally cutting off at random times, especially when connecting to the internet or in a call. I was able to solve the problem when it got bad by doing a hard reset but, you can imagine, I hated going to such an extreme all the time since I have to reinstall everything over and over again! Unfortunately, with this phone, the hard reset did not solve the problem. With the last phone, it finally died completely, it would work for awhile but would not stay in a call.
I had this Dash Black replaced (still within the two week window, BARELY!) and it should arrive today. On other forums, I read another user having the same problem and a suggestion was "too many 3rd party applications" Well, that sounded good BUT, after reflashing to the T-Mobile approved ROM, it still did the same thing, shut down whenever it felt like it and would not reboot unless on the power supply.
Now, I REALLY like the ROSE 1.7 but, then again, I really like the phone too! I have a different memory card so that cannot be the problem, I have used Kavana 6.1, Rose 6.1 1.7, as well as T-Mobile 6.0 on the last Dash with the same problems. Should I tempt fate by reflashing this Dash to one of the 6.1's? It seems like, if this was the cause, Someone should have had the same problem before, especially posting on here. I am not using too many 3rd party apps:
Agendus Pro
Google Maps
Bible Reader
Avantgo (though, I had not had a chance to really use this one much)
Email for 3 accounts, one internet, hotmail, yahoo
Microsoft Word/Excel/Powerpoint/Notes
Adobe PDF reader
YGo!
That's it. There are the pre-installed from the 6.1 that I have used but nothing else that should be causing this breakdown in connectivity. The battery being misread as being dead is really confusing. Though, when it started having the problems, it would hang during trying to connect or disconnect while downloading email.
Ideas? Please! I LOVE this phone and would like to, at the very least, be able to make phone calls with the new phone!
Its fairly obvious, something you are doing is causing this issue. The odds of it happen FOUR times on four different devices and it being one of the ROMs is astronomical at best.
You replaced the Memory card, this solves that problem in part. How do you access the card via card reader or via the Dash on your computer? You could have a defective cable or card reader that is in turn damaging your card.
Do you overclock? if so what speed and do you overclock regularly?
Battery? Have you replaced it or are you simply using the same battery in all of these devices? Usually cutting off and battery reading 0 is a bad battery.
Third party programs is not usually a concern, you dont even want to know how many things i run on my Dash on a daily basis lol
Hmmmmmm
Actually, I have had 4 Dashes but only two have had this problem. The first was replaced because of a defective screen, the second I used almost a year before it exhibited this problem. The third, that is the one I just replaced and this is the 4th, the one I received today.
Well, unfortunately, I have used different cables, I access the memory card through the Dash with installed programs or through Explorer as a Mobile Device in Windows XP and ActiveSync.
This is the second Memory card, having purchased a new one when I got the new Black in case that might have been the problem. I am also using a new Battery, I purchased a new battery when the second Dash started having problems. When it would die, I could switch out the battery and it would read the different battery as fresh, even if the other were charged. The battery in this new one came with the Dash I got 2 weeks ago. I also have another one that is new as well.
I thought about overclocking but actually did not try that. I am not sure enough about how much to overclock and what setting I should use. I heard in one post that OMAP might be the problem. The only thing in common with each Dash that had the problem was the flash to 6.1. Neither had a problem until after the flash. Maybe I was holding my mouth wrong when I flashed it!
Ideas after eliminating the battery and the memory and overclocking? Has anyone ever experienced the operating system misreading the battery?
Battery and Card are the usual suspects, with them gone we are back to the ROM. I have three Dashes, two have 6.1 installed and are used heavily the third is my guinea pig when it comes to testing new cooks, applications etc neither of the two 6.1's show any signs such as what you described.
So I am at a loss, sorry. hopefully this forth Dash works out better. perhaps you should stay away from cooked ROMs and see if the issues reappear, then you can start to narrow it down from there.
Here is a thought, charger. A friend of mine baked his battery using an old Motorola car charger because the mini usb was the 'same' ultimately he screwed his battery / dash up by using the non htc charger. How do you charge yours?
Hmmmmmm, could be!
I go from the USB charger to the plug in. I usually go for the USB and that just MIGHT be the common thread! I think that I will stick with sync ing my Dash on the USB BUT only sync, use the charger for the actual charging.
Thanks! That might be our missing element.
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I go from the USB charger to the plug in. I usually go for the USB and that just MIGHT be the common thread! I think that I will stick with sync ing my Dash on the USB BUT only sync, use the charger for the actual charging.
Thanks! That might be our missing element.
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Well keep us posted.
"HELP! Dash Died, New one on the way, What should I do?"
Wait for the new one?
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"HELP! Dash Died, New one on the way, What should I do?"
Wait for the new one?
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hard reset?
Are you closing programs and freeing memory when you stop using the apps and what not? I know of people who always have issues with phones and then you come to find out they treat them like crap and then wonder why its slow. Do you charge it every night or do you charge it every 2 weeks? Did you follow the flashing instructions by detail? I am sure that its something you are doing. I am not a noob but not even an expert and I had no issues with the Dash.
The phone has been absolutely rock solid since the day I bought it and I love it. Today however I was using Google Navigation with Bluetooth connected to a headset so I could hear navigation prompts and phone calls. The phone was plugged into a generic Motorola microUSB car charger that I've always used for tons of phones.
The sun was out and hitting the back of the phone so the battery app I had was reporting battery temp at 45 and above.
Anyway even though the phone shows the charging icon and says its charging it doesn't seem to receiving enough juice to charge the phone? The battery kept dropping and I can't tell if this was because the phone was so hot that it stopped charging the battery like my Incredible used to do or if I just need a more powerful car charger.
Then on my second leg of the trip the phone rebooted mid navigation. Started back up and has been working fine.
Anyone have any ideas or seen something similar?
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Was listening to Bluetooth music and browsing a site and boom hard freeze and had to pull battery to get it to start. Only thing today is I installed nytimes. I'm going to try uninstalling it since I remember having issues with the app on G2X. Let's hope.
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I've had random reboots, but I'm not at all sure what's causing them.
Also, the lockscreen will occasionally become unresponsive, but it seems to fix itself if I leave it for a while.
I guess we just have to hope for a fix in an upcoming patch.
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The phone has been absolutely rock solid since the day I bought it and I love it. Today however I was using Google Navigation with Bluetooth connected to a headset so I could hear navigation prompts and phone calls. The phone was plugged into a generic Motorola microUSB car charger that I've always used for tons of phones.
The sun was out and hitting the back of the phone so the battery app I had was reporting battery temp at 45 and above.
Anyway even though the phone shows the charging icon and says its charging it doesn't seem to receiving enough juice to charge the phone? The battery kept dropping and I can't tell if this was because the phone was so hot that it stopped charging the battery like my Incredible used to do or if I just need a more powerful car charger.
Then on my second leg of the trip the phone rebooted mid navigation. Started back up and has been working fine.
Anyone have any ideas or seen something similar?
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Its common to run hot when using gps. Reboot was probably because battery too hot. Your phone did the right thing. Cool off period.
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depending on the car charger & phone use, you'll get insufficient juice to keep the battery charging. i'm assuming your moto charger is a 'rapid charger', if not.. then i would suggest trying one out.
this one is pretty decent: Motorola P513 Rapid Car Charger
if that doesn't cut it then the next step would be to use a power inverter(what i use).. only down side is they are a bit bulky & can be noisey to.. but will ensure your phone gets charged up no matter what(gps use, torrent download, etc)
Thanks I ordered the Motorola charger. It was only 5 bucks on Amazon Prime. I hope that works otherwise its inverter time
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My N1 used to get nuclear hot when using navigation. Doesn't surprise me.
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My N1 used to get nuclear hot when using navigation. Doesn't surprise me.
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That's bit a OTT, it got hot but not Nuclear.
I'm finding the GN gets hot just from using it with games/browsing.
The hot spots are on the back at the top, next to camera
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I agree, the GN does get warm often. I'm trying to get used to it. My NS never got warm.
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i'm having constant reboots. this happened to the first GNex i had. it eventually wouldn't come back on. i even waited a good 12hrs and tested it again and it still wouldn't come back on. returned it and now the people i returned it to are telling me that it's fully functional, and now i have a new one that's acting the same. i guess it's going to die too and then i'll have two lemons on my hand. thanks a lot, Google/Samsung.
I've just had my first two random reboots today. Phone updated with the volume fix ota yesterday morning.
It reboots and then gets stuck at the android updating screen.
Don't know if it is a coincidence that this has started after the bug fix.
This morning I look at my phone to see that it has not only rebooted but the default, first-time welcome message is waiting asking me to log on using my gmail account, etc.
In other words my phone got wiped over night and I don't know why. I did install some phone tracking apps yesterday but removed most of them except for PhoneLocator which I ended up paying for.
So I've spent a few hours restoring things the way they were and right before I got to work the phone did a reboot but fortunately did not do a factory reset as it did before.
I am kind of worried now, I really hope this will not happen again.
Any thoughts? Similar experiences?
I had this "problem" with my Desire. In car, connected to a charger than I know works. Phone not charging.
Basically, as mentioned, the battery will stop charging when it reaches a certain temperature. And the OP mentioned it was a hot day. Plus being on the other side of the glass amplifies the suns heat.
Also a "good" charger is specifically one that has an output of 1A. I and others have found that charger with an output of 850mA and less definitely won't cut it for GPS duties.
The reboots... may be heat. May be something else. Does it only happen when the phone is hot?
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just so you know you are not alone - i'm having the same problem with the galaxy nexus i got yesterday. it was constantly rebooting, also showing the "upgrading Android" dialog at startup.
this continued after factory reset and no additional applications installed.
i returned it, waiting for one from the next batch.
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Was listening to Bluetooth music and browsing a site and boom hard freeze and had to pull battery to get it to start. Only thing today is I installed nytimes. I'm going to try uninstalling it since I remember having issues with the app on G2X. Let's hope.
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Some of us have the GN crash on us while listening to music. There is a thread on it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379600
Got my GN Thursday morning. Since then I've had 3 Reboots.
First was actually a full power off while streaming music via Subsonic, plugged into a car charger about 10 hours after getting the phone.
Second was after viewing some flash enabled websites, so not too surprised there (reboot).
Third was just after installing and setting up Google Wallet about 45 minutes ago (reboot).
Wow years of lurking and apparently that was my fist post.
GNex Reboots and Freezes
I am in the process of exchanging my GNex replaced by Samsing. Within 48 hours after getting it in the mail (no rooting or anything, just stock) I was getting random reboots, apps crashing, black screen (unable to wake) requiring battery oull. By the next day it was just continuous soft reboots (starting at the boot animation, not the "Google" screen).
Called Google who transferred me to Samsung who said they need to repair and not replace the device quoting 7-10 days. I called Google back and they said Samsung should have offered to replace the device and the Google rep called Samsung back and got them to replace the device (apparently there's a 14-day window that the device can be replaced).
It was a Friday morning and I was told someone from another Samsung department would contact me within one business day to arrange shipping the replacement and getting my credit card details for the advance replacement. On Monday I still hadn't heard from anyone so I tweeted at @samsungsupport with my ticket number saying i was still waiting and received a call within minutes from a Samsung rep arranging the shipping of the replacement. May be a coincidence, not sure.
At this point, I was quoted Wednesday for a total of 5 days without a phone, unless it takes longer. Unfortunately I only recently switched to a GSM carrier and don't have a spare SIM card phone so the delay is inconvenient. Hoping for a better experience with the replacement device and I wish there could have been a next-day replacement strategy for DOA units.
Good luck everyone.
You need a minimum of 1 amp for the car charger, most chargers only provide 750 mA. Also check the charging method, some of the cheap chargers will not trigger AC mode (Will show as usb charging) and in those cases, you are only getting 500 mA, if this is the case, you might be able to trick things by shorting out the two data pins on the USB cable.
I picked up an iPad car charger, the older ones are 1 amp, the newer ones are 2.1 amps. Toss out the crappy proprietary cable and put in a standard micro usb. Plenty of juice for this thirsty phone.
Well..did some research about 7 months ago or so, got two of these phones. One for the GF and one fore me, shortly after the rom output slowed down but there were already a few good options so it worked out well in the end. But I thought I was getting a better phone than I did. Recently my phone has decided it does not like to charge anymore, but intermittently will charge. I had it plugged in all night last night, charged 8% at some point. Most of the time, it wont' detect the charge cable is plugged in..PC shows an error when trying to install drivers. I have tried a new battery, without Sim card, cleared data and all caches and tried a Rootbox which it's had from the day I got it and the newer CM 10.1 r2..no change.
So I am calling this phone junk unless someone has any suggestions. I am kind of SoL financially and really don't have more than $150 to spend, maaaaybe $200 if the phone is going to be substantially more durable. I'll miss the screen, power and camera on the Glide I know..but it is what it is..I'll save it as a parts donor for her phone. I am on Straight Talk which recently went Verizon towers in my area as well and seems that's also the trend for the phones they're selling in my area so it seems maybe I'm more limited to their selection as well? Anyways, need a new phone and have a tight budget..can you please give me some suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Have you tried a different Rom, cable, battery or usb port? In my experience, a new cable and battery did the trick, also tightening up the tension ears on my usb ports.
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Sad to have to say but that'll be your charging port failing. Tends to happen seemingly easier with micro usb since it's so much smaller... but I have seen this same issue happen with micro usb ports on a number of devices. You could probably get it repaired for a reasonable cost, actually. Try contacting your service provider, or finding a place that repairs electronics.
ive been having a problem with this phone for a while. it has a problem with turning on and statying on. i will set it on charge while its powered off for atleast two hours, but as soon as i turn it on it will last for about 5 mins and turn off.
i first replaced the battery and it has the same problem. so i replaced the charging port and it was working fine for a few weeks and now its back to the same issue. i cant even get it to charge now
so just trying to figure out what kind of other components it could be
Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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well i greatly appreciate your lengthly response. to be honest, it is my mothers phone, which is why i want to try and fix it. i gave her an iphone so she really doesnt need this phone but i would like to figure out what is wrong because i do like to tinker with things. i have tried different chords, wall outlets, usb ports on the pc etc. i will reopen the phone to see if everything is back together, because thats the only thing i can think of from what you mentioned.
thanks again. if anyone has had a similar problem, let me know
sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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The OP already tried both of those things.
Oh ok yeah i just noticed where he put that. Hardware problem maybe. Im more into software myself than i am hardware.
MINE TOO! Omg
This... it's too much. Okay, a month ago the damned power button got too hard to press in, which should have been a warning that the hardware was getting faulty I suppose. But I downloaded an app that let me use the volume button to turn screen on/off. (I won't say which because I half-blame it, unfairly, for killing my phone
(Sorry, I'm still —mourning! the death of my phone I guess.)
The app was an ugly solution, I guess, but it worked. (I couldn't turn the screen off easily, so I set the screen-off to 10 seconds.) And I hadn't used screenshots in a while so that was no big deal; and my ROM could get me to Recovery easily enough, so screw the power button, right?
But then last night, my phone STOPPED CHARGING! I did a batt pull, tried new cords; turned off every useful app. I even went back to stock ROM, which (even though plugged in) left me with 20% batt. Might as well have bricked it, I guess.
Nothing worked. I was able to turn bluetooth back on so I could use my Air Droid acct to get my on-phone pictures, at least (everything else is safe on the SD), and then I charged it overnight in the wall and hoped for the best.
I was pretty thrilled to wake up to 100% charged! —For a few minutes. As soon as I unplugged it, it started discharging fast, and then not even the wall charger stopped it from discharging.
After brooding, for a few hours, I called Verizon tech. The tech (VERY nice, admittedly) said my Dinc2 was just dead. (Damn they're good: he was more sympathetic than a doctor delivering bad news!!) —But I feel so lost. He offered me a DNA or a Dinc 4G (and some motos and crap), but said my Dinc2 wouldn't be worth fixing. He said the power button alone was a PITA, but the dongle thing you plug the charger into was likely the problem, AND it might be the battery. Maybe he said other problems, but ultimately he suggested some pre-owneds he had for sale (I'm trying to keep my unlimited data plan), or try PhoneKarma.com. (He said he didn't recommend eBay, where they have Dinc 2s, but I'm not sure why.)
So ...do Dinc2s just have power issues after (?) 3 years? I guess that's a pretty good lifetime, but boy is it depressing. (I know — hooked on a damned phone. #Sucks.) I mean, it would be stupid to fix this one, or buy another one, right?
@Trebuchette, no matter what machine you use, rechargeable batteries do not last forever. Order a new battery from Amazon or eBay and you should be fine. They're pretty cheap and easy to replace. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Incredible-6350-BTR6350B-Packaging/dp/B0064SI3QA
A case might make your power button easier to press. The OtterBox Defender is an excellent case that you can get for $15 used (very good condition), if a new battery successfully fixes your problem.
Hey: might be worth a shot! I did try another batt, but it was older too. And I didn't think of an otterbox at all, tbh. Thanks! Might be worth a try!
Hey: does it matter much if my USB cable is LG or whatever? I tried several different USBs too, but I'd been using this LG one (no idea how!) for probably about a year.
No, the brand of micro USB cable should not matter. It's a technical standard.
Don't buy a case until you've verified that a new battery actually fixes your problem. If a battery doesn't fix it, it's only a few bucks lost. In that case, I would then get a new phone.
i just came back to this thread after i basically put the project on hold for a while and wanted to see any new suggestions. so after leaving the phone alone for two months, i pluuged the phone in and i saw that orange ligh indicating it was charging. so far so good, im not using it as a primary phone which is good, but that would be my suggestion is to give the phone a rest for a while
EDIT: yeah scratch that, its doing the same **** now
A while back i used to "try" to root stuff. I sucked at it BAD. Anyway, I have a Galaxy Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) that I had rooted to a certain point (very superficial) and I just kept it the way it was, that way I could use Multi-window for any app. This morning I unplug my tab from the charger only to be disappointed that it will not turn on. Ive tried different power outlets, different cables, different base chargers, even the whole "power+vol_up+home" thing... nothing. I never updated the tab when Kitkat came through the pipeline. Im freaking out that a new major update automatically happened overnight or something. Im sorry to trouble you all, but does anyone have suggestions? Since it's rooted I can't take it to Samsung or Best Buy. Honestly if I could just get it back to stock, that would be awesome, but im more concerned about getting it to simply turn on. Any Ideas?
If your device is rooted you won't get an OTA update so that could not be the problem. You can try to unplug battery (mus open the device)"and see what happened. Maybe your battery is faulty or someting else.
K... I appreciate it Ill take a look. But, lets say I actually open it (without making things worse), how do I determine if the battery is in fact faulty? If it is, can I get a replacement? preferably an official samsung one.
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Scratch that. Sry, Im just always scared of doin stuff, so I always feel like I have to ask the question, but I'll look it up. Im confident at least this should be easy enough for me to do Thank you again.
The problem with this device is you cannot pull out the battery easily. Maybe after that steps it boots up again.
Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Wow, that suck. sorry for you man. For now, try to plug the tablet to a computer and while device manager opened and see if there is change. If the change say "qhsusb" or something along that line and not your model number . . . changing battery wont do anything because it's already hard bricked. if not, finger cross.
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What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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No. But sometimes after this step and reconnecting the battery the device boots up. Also a battery calibration is done.
I tried plugging in the tablet to the computer with the old battery and then without any battery. Neither one prompted anything in the device manager. Today I got the new battery (assuming its legit and in good condition) in the mail. I plugged it in, and nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the wall charger, nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the computer while running device manager, nothing.
I'm going assume that the new battery is dead and let it stay connected to the wall charger for 8+ hrs, and see if there are any changes.
I just really don't understand what the deal is and why this would randomly happen. Ive never had problems with the firmware or anything. I have felt like there was an issue with the battery being that it doesn't seem to be keeping much of a charge... but for it to just Hard Brick like this seems so out of the blue. Can anyone provide me with additional suggestions please?
Maybe I'll ask it this way...
Is there any way to test if the batteries are food? That way I can at least determine if the tablet is in fact hard bricked or just bad batteries.
Might not be what you want to hear, but if different cables, chargers and batteries don't work, then maybe there was a power surge overnight while the device was plugged into the wall that took out the device (I once lost a computer that way and now I only use surge suppressors (note that not all power bars are proper surge protectors! See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector ) that are UL 1449 certified with a low clamping voltage and high energy absorption rating as a minimum; the fancier ones can even tell you if your wall outlet has a grounding problem). Or your tablet's USB port is broken, but that doesn't make sense based on what you've said thus far. Or you're just super-unlucky and all of your replacement parts are also faulty (it could happen). Either way, I've got my fingers crossed for you!
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter
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In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
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Ill definitely be looking into this option in depth tomorrow, and deeply appreciate it. At least it's something. T_T I don't want my tablet going to electro grave. This sucks so bad. This has been a month from hell
First my printer decides its time to start printing crooked over a couple of months, getting so bad that it jams up a few weeks ago, requiring me to get a new printer, which has been a fiasco in and of itself that still hasnt been resolved. Ive gone through 4 printers in one week, all of them different model printers, all from HP, and each and every one of them defective.
Then my laptops video card tweaks out because of installing Splashtop Stream, which starts a domino effect requiring me to do a factory reset on the laptop.
Then my Tablet just decides to kill over.
Then my Microsoft Arc mouse decides it doesn't the want to wheel to work requiring me to purchase a new one, and when I receive it, the cover for the battery compartment is missing and the wheel click is defective. It took 2 and a half weeks to resolve
Then I get bronchitis.
all in less than a month.
Alright, ya... it's dead. Oh well. Here's me trying to make the most of it: are there any places that buy bricked tabs? I figure the parts have to have some sort of salvage value.... maybe.
You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
Sent from my GT-N5100 using XDA Free mobile app
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O_O That does suck!! Sry man.
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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I randomly bumped here and I'm no expert, but if your tablet's motherboard is indeed dead, I believe there is absolutely no way they can tell that the device got rooted at some point. You did not "hard brick" it, that's a whole other thing, or at least so I've learned in my not-very-long experience. "Hard brick" should be the result of flashing a kernel made some other device, which definitely is not your case. Moreover, that does not kill the motherboard, it just makes anything unbootable: it's a software problem, so it can actually be detected. You had a hardware failure that most likely completely wiped any proof that you have ever modified your device, so the only problem that you might have, I think, is them telling you that they take no responsibility for what your power outlet has done to the device, but they shouldn't be able to detect any modification that you have made. In my opinion technical support is worth trying.
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just thought Id let everyone know that I managed to get Samsung to compromise on the matter since the Tablet is only 5 months past warranty (1yr 5mnths since purchase). So, not much longer and hopefully Ill have a tablet that works yet again.