Thought this would be useful. They said they will be one of the first to release it. Hope they do with the edge...
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Thought this would be useful. They said they will be one of the first to release it. Hope they do with the edge...
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Me too. I am dying to know what off contract pricing is going to be. Shame about their limited 4G data caps though. I can't wait for truly unlimited data to come back to the carriers.
As I understand Verizon has some grandfathers and I've got it for for Sprint, but I wouldn't call what Sprint offers "4G" or even "data" most of the time.
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Me too. I am dying to know what off contract pricing is going to be. Shame about their limited 4G data caps though. I can't wait for truly unlimited data to come back to the carriers.
As I understand Verizon has some grandfathers and I've got it for for Sprint, but I wouldn't call what Sprint offers "4G" or even "data" most of the time.
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You can thank T-mobile for being a pricing leader and make other carriers have unlimited data. I get unlimited LTE data on T-mobile.
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Thought this would be useful. They said they will be one of the first to release it. Hope they do with the edge...
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link?
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link?
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Google never disappoints!
http://about.att.com/story/att_conf...oin_nations_most_reliable_4g_lte_network.html
ls3mach said:
Me too. I am dying to know what off contract pricing is going to be. Shame about their limited 4G data caps though. I can't wait for truly unlimited data to come back to the carriers.
As I understand Verizon has some grandfathers and I've got it for for Sprint, but I wouldn't call what Sprint offers "4G" or even "data" most of the time.
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You should have said "I wouldn't call what Sprint offers - IN MY AREA- 4G or even data most of the time", because your comment isn't true everywhere.
I've been with Sprint for over 4 years and couldn't be happier! I have unlimited everything and only pay $45 per month! While I only saw Wimax once, I get LTE everywhere. I average 25mbps down at my house, which is 20 minutes outside of Atlanta
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You should have said "I wouldn't call what Sprint offers - IN MY AREA- 4G or even data most of the time", because your comment isn't true everywhere.
I've been with Sprint for over 4 years and couldn't be happier! I have unlimited everything and only pay $45 per month! While I only saw Wimax once, I get LTE everywhere. I average 25mbps down at my house, which is 20 minutes outside of Atlanta
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I've been with them 11 years. Way before "since the ground up". My Treo 650 got better speeds than by Note 3. Note 2. HTC Evo 4G LTE. EVI 3D. Evo Wimax. Evo. PPC6800. PPC6700. Palm Centreo. Treo 700. Moto Q. I'm sure there were others. I've been Sprint before SERO. I've got a screen grab on HoFo of me using 35+GB of data in a month back when they're 3G was mediocre. I couldn't max out my connection and for 3 months and use that now.
I think my doctorate thesis will be only poor people use Sprint.
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Me too. I am dying to know what off contract pricing is going to be. Shame about their limited 4G data caps though. I can't wait for truly unlimited data to come back to the carriers.
As I understand Verizon has some grandfathers and I've got it for for Sprint, but I wouldn't call what Sprint offers "4G" or even "data" most of the time.
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I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data AT&T plan. I don't use a lot of data and I think AT&T throttles it if you exceed 5 GB/mo.
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Great idea IF you want to appear unintelligent, lol. Based on your thesis, everyone around Atlanta who chooses the best carrier is now poor. You could be absolutely correct, though, and it has nothing to do with the others having spotty coverage and terrible speeds.
I suppose my doctorate thesis will be, ls3mach is an average special ed student.
Finally, Sprint does NOT throttle their users. I see @mty msi said AT&T throttles, so thought I would chime in. I average 25-35GB each month and my download speeds are always between 25-30mbps.
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I have unlimited data on AT&T as well...its $30, however if you have a employer discount that comes off the $30 unlimited plan, or $50 5gb plan, not off the $30 3gb plan. I have a 24% discount on my bill which gives 24% off $60 700min family plan, and 24% off my $30 unlimited and 24% off my younger sisters $50 5gb plan.
I pay $22.80 for Unlimited data. I just reached 5gb my first time this past labor day at my family's cottage in northern Michigan, I have never had internet on my phone up north, but now I get a solid 4 Mbps download H+ speed up there, so naturally I streamed a few Netflix movies and hit my 5gb...they throttle me to .55 Mbps no matter where I am. At home(metro Detroit) I can sometimes pull 40mbps down 5mbps up on LTE, so to be throttled to .55 is ridiculous, I cannot watch YouTube videos, however I can still stream music without buffering. So I view my Unlimited data as a $22 5gb data plan...which isn't bad...but still...that amount of throttling is terrible and a cheap ploy to get us to change plans as everyone knows a faster 4g connection is cheaper to provide than slower 3g.
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Sold my current phone and will rock a dump phone on call forwarding to my work smartphone until AT&T launches the Note 4 then Verizon will be reduced to my tablet line which is for work. Suck it Verizon.
AT&T's page says " AT&T today confirmed that it will be among the first U.S. carriers to bring you the Galaxy Note 4" not the first, but among the first so hopefully they will be right on top for 10-10-14 which is the speculated date and the day before my billing cycle.
I will pass on the Note 4...Boot loader will be locked and no root in sight...Not buying a phone you can't root.
im gonna pass on the note 4 for att... but pickup a note 4 on tmobile.. lets hope they dont pull any games with the bootloader :good:
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I will pass on the Note 4...Boot loader will be locked and no root in sight...Not buying a phone you can't root.
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Just to add to this for those of you who are coming from older phones and may not be aware of AT&T's locked bootloader practice the last couple years.
The first batch of Galaxy S4's could be flashed to AOSP if you wanted.
But since then, all premium Galaxy (and maybe others) phones on AT&T have a locked bootloader. And to this day, nobody has broken it and that means you cannot flash a custom recovery or AOSP ROMs.
And, it took a LONG time before root was even available for the S5.
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I view my Unlimited data as a $22 5gb data plan...which isn't bad...but still...that amount of throttling is terrible
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Yeah, that sucks doesn't it.
TMO plans are unlimited in the sense that you pay for say, 5GB of high speed. Then they just throttle you afterwards.
SO the ATT "unlimited" is the same thing but with a fancier name.
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Just to add to this for those of you who are coming from older phones and may not be aware of AT&T's locked bootloader practice the last couple years.
The first batch of Galaxy S4's could be flashed to AOSP if you wanted.
But since then, all premium Galaxy (and maybe others) phones on AT&T have a locked bootloader. And to this day, nobody has broken it and that means you cannot flash a custom recovery or AOSP ROMs.
And, it took a LONG time before root was even available for the S5.
Yeah, that sucks doesn't it.
TMO plans are unlimited in the sense that you pay for say, 5GB of high speed. Then they just throttle you afterwards.
SO the ATT "unlimited" is the same thing but with a fancier name.
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I used to tinker with my android phones in the past, flashing ROM's all the time, but since I use my phone more and more for work I starting going stock and not worrying as much about it. Perhaps if Dish buys T-Mobile they could become the ULTIMATE UnCarrier and kick all of them in the nutz.
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im gonna pass on the note 4 for att... but pickup a note 4 on tmobile.. lets hope they dont pull any games with the bootloader :good:
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I'm thinking of purchasing the TMO phone and using on ATT. I need the ATT coverage. But, I think I'll hold off until it is confirmed that it can be rooted.
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I used to tinker with my android phones in the past, flashing ROM's all the time, but since I use my phone more and more for work I starting going stock and not worrying as much about it. ...
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Same here. I have installed a lot of different ROMS, most of which typicall have very positive feedback. But, I find there is ALWAYS something, however minor it may be (or not) that does not work right. Always. Now, of course, some of that can likely be attributed to the various phones that are different due to manufacturing tolerances. But I'm tired of it.
But I do want root so I can do effective backups, and use some of the apps I have that require (or work better) if rooted.
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I'm thinking of purchasing the TMO phone and using on ATT. I need the ATT coverage. But, I think I'll hold off until it is confirmed that it can be rooted.
Same here. I have installed a lot of different ROMS, most of which typicall have very positive feedback. But, I find there is ALWAYS something, however minor it may be (or not) that does not work right. Always. Now, of course, some of that can likely be attributed to the various phones that are different due to manufacturing tolerances. But I'm tired of it.
But I do want root so I can do effective backups, and use some of the apps I have that require (or work better) if rooted.
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I did enjoy the custom ROM's as you mentioned and today for me its really about rooting and getting the features back that were stolen by the carriers. Not sure if that will every happen or not, that said I am waiting for the Note 4 before casting any final decisions.
I just wish Samsung would start holding their press events closer to their release dates. I hate watching the Crapple products get all the press because they get to market faster. I hope AT&T is first (one of the first) to release again.
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I did enjoy the custom ROM's as you mentioned and today for me its really about rooting and getting the features back that were stolen by the carriers. Not sure if that will every happen or not, that said I am waiting for the Note 4 before casting any final decisions.
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Same here. I am on T-Mobile, and if it looks like it will be difficult to root, I may hold off till the Nexus X.
Samscum + ATT = :crying:
No root, locked bootloader, and tons of bullcrap bloatware.
What happened to the good old days of the Galaxy Note 2 on ATT, that thing had awesome development and ROM's the first month of release.
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This is a rumor. Take it for what it's worth. The moderator being mentioned heard the rumor a few days ago but purposely didn't post anything until he could get some confirmation. I never saw that he came back and posted he had confirmation, but it was posted on SprintUser News.
From SprintUsers.com
http://www.sprintusers.com/interesting-rumor/
One of our moderators, after a very recent visit to Radio Shack had this to say after speaking to an employee:
In addition to the change in how they will calculate discounts by separating the 1st 2 lines, Sprint will be going to capped data. The cap numbers I heard were a 2GB cap with speeds throttled after 1 GB. No word on if it was being applied across the board, would just be for new accounts, etc.
What does this mean? Simply put, Sprint may begin the move to stop the totally awesome Unlimited plans. How will this change your relationship with Sprint?
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This is a rumor. Take it for what it's worth. The moderator being mentioned heard the rumor a few days ago but purposely didn't post anything until he could get some confirmation. I never saw that he came back and posted he had confirmation, but it was posted on SprintUser News.
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http://www.sprintusers.com/interesting-rumor/
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There's absolutely no way Sprint would do this.
Now, in 2013 when they are completely LTE?
Yeah. Maybe.
But if they do anything like this now they're done.
T-Mobile will over take them.
I promise.
I highly doubt this is going to happen now...in a competitive market where verizon already has a huge lte market, unlimited data is the only thing sprint has going for them. I can see unlimited data disappearing when sprint starts releasing devices on its own lte network...late 2012 early 2013
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sfhub said:
This is a rumor. Take it for what it's worth. The moderator being mentioned heard the rumor a few days ago but purposely didn't post anything until he could get some confirmation. I never saw that he came back and posted he had confirmation, but it was posted on SprintUser News.
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http://www.sprintusers.com/interesting-rumor/
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I would be on Verizon the next day if they started to cap. Isn't the main reason people stay with Sprint because of unlimited data?
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What if they did it for new accounts. Would that make you more likely to stay?
This is ridiculous. There's no way I'd pay $75 a month for 1GB data. Sprint 3G is bad. Unlimited 4G is the only reason I'm on Sprint.
A radio shack employee that about sums it up
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There are customers today paying for unlimited but their connection is too slow and they never realistically get to 2GB. Being throttled after 1GB might actually be an improvement from being throttled after 1KB.
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I highly doubt this is going to happen now...in a competitive market where verizon already has a huge lte market, unlimited data is the only thing sprint has going for them. I can see unlimited data disappearing when sprint starts releasing devices on its own lte network...late 2012 early 2013
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You do realize that data on Verizon Wireless is capped based on what you pay for and anything over that limit say 2-5 gb you are charged overages. That has do do with anything Verizon Wireless sells. They also throttle there speeds.
Sprint on the other hand just released a commercial on tv that said they wernt going to cap or throttle the network. Why would they go back on that commercial and spend that kind of money just to change there mind? Basically they said Unlimited means "Unlimited".
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What if they did it for new accounts. Would that make you more likely to stay?
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I would leave on principle.
I'm already about done with Sprint after 9 years as it is.
Have you guys ever read the terms of service for Sprint? They already from the beginning throttle services. So you are already throttled from the start when you using those services. They don't tell you what the pre-throttle. Also if they feel you use too much they'll lock out the service until your next cycle or remove you altogether(let you go without paying the termination fee). Also you have to be on their network to get unlimited. If you happen to be roaming you only get 300mb a month.
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Why would they go back on that commercial and spend that kind of money just to change there mind? Basically they said Unlimited means "Unlimited".
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Unlimited is just a marketing strategy, it isn't a company philosophy. They'll keep marketing it as long as they feel it is gaining them customers. If there is no advantage (ie they are losing customers) then they'll probably drop it and try some other marketing approach. After all they have the iPhone now
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Have you guys ever read the terms of service for Sprint? They already from the beginning throttle services. So you are already throttled from the start when you using those services. They don't tell you what the pre-throttle.
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I'm not sure what part of the ToS you're referring to but if you understood computer networking you'd know that ALL connections are "throttled" in order to allow for a consistent connection
Only reason I joined sprint was the unlimited data. Too bad I get 20-98kpbs most of the time on 3g... When I'm on 4G i use the heck out of it though. If they end unlimited data I'm going back to a GSM carrier. I miss the ability to easily switch phones.
Can't wait Till July 2013 to get out of my contract unless speeds pick up by then! I'm eyeing Verizon. But until then its sprint slow unlimited network craning from 100kbps to 2 jobs depending the tower your connected to
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I'm not sure what part of the ToS you're referring to but if you understood computer networking you'd know that ALL connections are "throttled" in order to allow for a consistent connection
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Go through it. It has NOTHING to do to gain a consistent connection.
Edit it's there somewhere. I remember a few months back before T-Mobile changed their forums I posted everything people didn't know about their terms. I broke down the sections and what was explained to me when Sprint dropped me as a customer. They allowed me to move all 5 of my lines without a termination fee during that time, but I ended up losing my number I had for 8 years...
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What if they did it for new accounts. Would that make you more likely to stay?
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If they went that route, they would have to grandfather us in or there would be a mass exodus
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Go through it. It has NOTHING to do to gain a consistent connection.
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Generally when someone makes such a significant claim, especially when they're clearly from a different carrier, they are required to provide proof to such claim.
And yes, connections are "throttled" to ensure a consistent connection.
If they weren't controlled correctly your download speeds could jump up and down and would be unstable.
I'm not just talking about wireless services, but all ISPs.
The "throttling" that is generally referred to that is "bad" in the mind of the wireless market is when a carrier [T-mobile, At&t, Verizon and a few smaller carriers] reduce your speeds to 1x or EDGE after you've used a predetermined amount of data for that billing cycle.
Verizon even goes as far as stating [and this only applies to those that are grandfathered into unlimited plans] that not only will they throttle you for the remainder of the month but also for the entire next billing cycle.
Sprint may have something in the ToS about this in relation to how 4g works.
They had "throttled" the max upload to 1mbps at one point [and I believe increased that to 1.5mbps] but it was not a ploy to limit the customers based on usage. Just to limit the overall load on the network to allow all customers a positive experience.
Since there's really absolutely no need to have more than 1.5 mbps upload on a phone, that's more than enough.
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Generally when someone makes such a significant claim, especially when they're clearly from a different carrier, they are required to provide proof to such claim.
And yes, connections are "throttled" to ensure a consistent connection.
If they weren't controlled correctly your download speeds could jump up and down and would be unstable.
I'm not just talking about wireless services, but all ISPs.
The "throttling" that is generally referred to that is "bad" in the mind of the wireless market is when a carrier [T-mobile, At&t, Verizon and a few smaller carriers] reduce your speeds to 1x or EDGE after you've used a predetermined amount of data for that billing cycle.
Verizon even goes as far as stating [and this only applies to those that are grandfathered into unlimited plans] that not only will they throttle you for the remainder of the month but also for the entire next billing cycle.
Sprint may have something in the ToS about this in relation to how 4g works.
They had "throttled" the max upload to 1mbps at one point [and I believe increased that to 1.5mbps] but it was not a ploy to limit the customers based on usage. Just to limit the overall load on the network to allow all customers a positive experience.
Since there's really absolutely no need to have more than 1.5 mbps upload on a phone, that's more than enough.
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Then WHY don't they say that in the terms and be cryptic about it when you ask? There's even some stuff about rooting being against the terms and POINT to rooting as an example... They do more throttling than just to ensure "connectivity". Time Warner here throttles upload and they specifically point it out in their terms of use.
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If this is true, I would not hesitate to cancell my contract, I don't give a **** paying the ETF because their network is soo ****ty their 3g is a joke! I rarely pulled 500kbps on a good day! My cousin has an iPhone on att and he consistently gets 3 or 4mbps. Don't get me wrong I love the company and the cheap prices but they are not ready to compete with the big companies. I just hope they don't go bankrupt.
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My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me
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My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me
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Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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Yeah I see in your situation staying seems the good option and I don't need 4G either but I wish I could personally see how fast it is compared to 3G you know. And where I live I don't get that great signal nor speeds. I always feel like im on edge with my usual 200kbps down lol
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the whole slow data
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Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave
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Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave
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Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?
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Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?
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Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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Oh neh my signal inside is actually the same outside as well, except in the basement of course. I honestly can say i've probably seen my Epic hit 1.5mbps down less than 10 times since 5months ago when I downloaded the speedtest app. It's a fun app
Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you
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I love sprint. verizon may be faster, but sprint is way cheaper unless you get some kind of discount with verizon. I don't need blazing fast speeds, my wifi takes care of that!
I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).
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I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).
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Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.
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Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
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I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
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And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
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I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
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And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
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Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
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Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.
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Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.
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Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.
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I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.
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Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.
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And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here
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Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here
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I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see
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I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see
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My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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Your probably right who knows
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Your probably right who knows
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Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.
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Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.
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You do know that version of Speedtest never supported LTE yet right? Especially since LTE truly started rolling out around the time the version was made. So im going to say that this video isn't proof of a phone hitting those speeds rather than a simple glitch...For the Evo hell yes that looks exactly like Sprint network speeds haha...
My current T mobile plan is: Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and Unlimited Data (2GB of 4g, then throttled) for $79.99/month, plus a discount, so I pay $78 every month.
Now I never looked at Verizon plans because I have always heard they were so much more expensive.. so tonight I decide to look into it.. and I don't know If I am looking at them wrong or what..
But I see a plan.. SHARE EVERYTHING UNL TALK & TEXT 4GB $70 0612
Which I would read as Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and 4GB of LTE/4G Data for $70???
Is this correct or what? If it is that means I can get more with Verizon for less than T-Mobile? OR am I not seeing some extra fees and what not?
and BTW, with the 2GB on T mobile, I never go over, the most I used was about 1.8GB a month.. so I don't need unlimited data.
I just made a plan through their mobile website and it looks like they charge an extra $40 per smartphone on top of the plan price. The total for a 4Gb plan would be $110.
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Their "share everything" plans are a great concept, but you probably overlooked the device fee ($40 per smartphone).
They charge a fixed fee for each device that ties into it, and then all devices share all data/voice/text allotments and you simply purchase enough for your combined usage.
It's a great concept for families where everyone uses just a little more than one tier gives them and so instead of all of them having to pay for the next higher tier, they can aggregate and their average ends up with a cheaper combined tier. As an example, if they have a tier at 500MB and everyone uses 600-700MB then they might all have to individually upgrade to the 2GB plan. But, if they combine then they can get away with a single 2GB amongst 3 family members.
One of the big benefits for individual users is that you can share data between your smartphone and your tablet and the tablet only had a $10 fee to buy in. Typically you access things on your tablet or your smartphone, so the usage on both is usually not much higher than the usage on a single plan with one device. Essentially, you could probably get a tablet and add it to your plan for only $10 a month total.
But, at $40 per smartphone I'm not sure how much of a boon it is for families compared to the "add a tablet for $10/month" scenario.
Wow! That's a joke! 40$ a month just because you're using one of their devices, that doesn't even make sense.
So after all the mobile is cheaper
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Yea the plans are REALLY deceptive. I think it's $30 per dumbphone and $40 per smart ON TOP of the $70 for the plan. So even when you share with a flip it's almost like adding a whole nother plan. Tmo is cool because you can add lines and NOT give them data/texting.
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Dunno what you're smoking, I set up a wifi hotspot with my S3 and tether my Nexus 7 to it all the time, no problems streaming hd from Netflix.
Actually, I guess it's all depending on your market. I never have any issues anywhere around the Minneapolis area.
joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Uhhh.. grandfathered with data for one phone 2GB and two flips was $140, shared plan was $170. I went with tmo for $95.
Ohh you said PER PERSON. The difference is huge still.
Yeah I'll just stay away from them. To get the same plan with Verizon that I have with the mobile it would be 100$ plus tax... And right now I pay 78.
When I renew my contract I'll most likely get the 500mins (I checked my bills for the last three months and I never go over) unlimited text and unlimited 4G for 79.99$.
Orrr I might switch to simple mobile... Unlimited everything 50$ a month and they use the t mobile towers. I've had them before and had no problems.
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Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.
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Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.
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Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.
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I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.
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I would switch to Verizon but they are just too expensive. 2gb data unlimited mins and text=100$ plus tax.
On tmobile I get that for 78$. And don't have to worry about over fees because t mobile just throttles you. The highest speed test I got was 30mb. But average is 10mb and about 2.5 up
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If you want cheap T-Mobile is the way to go. The 2 line unlimited plan for $99 cant be beat, unless you go prepaid. But you probably wouldn't be in the s3 forums if you were wanting prepaid.
If you haven't, try to see if you can get any work discounts. It would probably help a bit on costs.
Lol don't know why people make such a big stink over Verizon. I had them for the last 8-9 years and I switched to Tmobile. It was easier than expected honestly. Sure their network isn't as good as Verizon but it's not so distinctly different where if you put the same phone and did a Web browsing test that someone would tell a difference. If I am downloading a huge rom then it's noticeable but for forum surfing and websites (don't do much more than that at work since... Well I'm working lol and I have wifi at home) its just fine.
It's funny because if you knew me then you would know this doesn't sound like me because I am a spec freak... Also it isn't the cost that bothers me. I work 60 hours a week and I can afford Verizon its just the lack of value. Maybe it's because Verizon doesn't give a **** about its customers and they don't try to hide it. Maybe it's because I do work so many damn hours and if I don't see value in my spending I won't buy it. Idk. Either way I'm thrilled with Tmobile and have no reason to go back. Also, I'm in a sort of crappy Tmobile area where everywhere around me gets 5-25mbs and I'm in the one patch that gets less than 2 lol
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For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
The speeds are way better than what I had on Sprint even with the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I have come across. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
Tbe speeds are way better that what I had on Sprint even the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I come accross. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.
akasan said:
Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.
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Yeah I'm with sprint now. I switched from tmobile from being customer for 6 years. And I gotta say worst mistake!! I'm so upset with the speeds. I mean I cant even get Pandora to work.
Needless to say I will be turning this pretty gs3 back to best buy and cancel my sprint. And reactivate my T-Mobile account.
Can't believe I shot my self in the foot like that.
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For some who don't know T-Mobile is undergoing a huge network upgrade so expect some big changes soon with service its only getting better from here guys jump on the Tmo express
After using my Note 2 for about an hour I got a text from AT&T saying they were switching my data plan because a LTE data plan was required. Previously I had an unlimited data plan. Sure enough, I checked my account online and now I have the 3 gb plan with $10 per 1gb over the limit. How can they do this? I don't want this? What are my options? I specifically bought the Note 2 paying full retail because I didn't want AT&T to know I switched phones. This sucks!!
I am pretty sure the recent fcc agreement with related fines for switching customers or forcing customers from their unlimited plans to limited plans was considered illegal. I would be *****ing up a storm and filing a complaint with the FCC, online. Wouldn't hurt to file an online complaint with the attorney general from your state either.
I had unlimited plan (non lte) which was grandfathered. After purchase of Note 2, noticed that I was put on a 3gb plan. I called AT&T and within 24 hours my unlimited plan was restored.
They switched me to the unlimited lte plan when I switched, att customer service was super helpful, almost too helpful. You might call them and see what they say.
Keep us posted.
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Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent) of AT&T's customer service department. They said I had an unlimited non-smartphone plan and that they could not upgrade me to an unlimited LTE plan. I mentioned the FCC ruling ( http://bgr.com/2012/11/07/att-fcc-fine-data-plans/ ) but I don't know if people in India even know what the FCC is. Those people on the phone don't give last names or employee numbers so they feel they are unacountable.
I've been using a smart phone for the past 4 years but apparently I was still on the non-smart phone plan. They said because of that they can not switch me over to the unlimited LTE plan. So, what should I do now? I will not stay wit ha limited plan. I'll switch to T-Mobile first. However my AT&T Note 2 will not work with T-Mobile's system I think. Also, I'd rather not switch as its a pain in the ass. I really hope I can get this resolved. Do you think I'd have beeter luck in person at a store?
That doesn't quite add up. How can you be on a non-smartphone plan with a smartphone for 4 years? So what plan did they have you at? And with unlimited data?
Either way, when I switched from my iPhones to the Note II, they had no problem switching my grandfathered unlimited plan to unlimited LTE. What they did tell me is they'd have to register me with a regular LTE data plan during the phone's sale, then they put it back to grandfathered unlimited status at activation, LTE and all.
Did you get the phone online or at the store?
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That doesn't quite add up. How can you be on a non-smartphone plan with a smartphone for 4 years? So what plan did they have you at? And with unlimited data?
Either way, when I switched from my iPhones to the Note II, they had no problem switching my grandfathered unlimited plan to unlimited LTE. What they did tell me is they'd have to register me with a regular LTE data plan during the phone's sale, then they put it back to grandfathered unlimited status at activation, LTE and all.
Did you get the phone online or at the store?
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When I switched from my dumb phone to my smart phone 4 years ago I didn't tell them about it so I guess I was still on the unlimited data for no-smart phones. Well, how stupid they are to think I go through 20-30 GB of data a month without it being a smart phone (I did a lot of tethering during those years).
I bought my Note 2 online. I assumed they wouldn't know about the phone switch since they didn't know about my phone switch 4 years ago. I guess because the Note 2 uses a different frequency they became aware of it that way. Anyway, it shouldn't matter. I was on an unlimited plan before and I think it is not unreasnable to be on an unlimited plan after switching. God how I hate AT&T. I was playing cards with some friends earlier tonight and an AT&T ad came on the TV. I wanted to throw something at the TV so badly!
Outsourced? It's your own damn fault!
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Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent)
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Never evereverever..never! call after normal business hours and or the weekend, you will get outsourced!...everever..never!!! My granddaughters Kindle Plus (1st Gen) fell victim to the known USB mini port failure,1 month out of warranty. My daughter called after normal business hours Monday..OUTSOURCED!!...ever.never. They told her it would cost her $150 to get it replaced , after a 1/2hr she gave up. She told me what happened, and I told here to call regular business hours. So she did the next day on Tuesday, not outsources, new Kindle Plus arrived this Friday no charge at all. They sent a return label to send the bad unit back within 30 day's. Don't know if you'll have this kind of luck, but from all of my vast past experience with this type of stuff you stand a much better chance calling 9-5 Monday thru Friday. These phone Reps in these far off lands can do the job, but they aren't given the authority to. So be firm but cordial, good luck, God speed, and eat hearty!
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Never evereverever..never! call after normal business hours and or the weekend, you will get outsourced!...everever..never!!! My granddaughters Kindle Plus (1st Gen) fell victim to the known USB mini port failure,1 month out of warranty. My daughter called after normal business hours Monday..OUTSOURCED!!...ever.never. They told her it would cost her $150 to get it replaced , after a 1/2hr she gave up. She told me what happened, and I told here to call regular business hours. So she did the next day on Tuesday, not outsources, new Kindle Plus arrived this Friday no charge at all. They sent a return label to send the bad unit back within 30 day's. Don't know if you'll have this kind of luck, but from all of my vast past experience with this type of stuff you stand a much better chance calling 9-5 Monday thru Friday. These phone Reps in these far off lands can do the job, but they aren't given the authority to. So be firm but cordial, good luck, God speed, and eat hearty!
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I'm on my phone, so, may I ask where you live? So I can convert time.
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I'm on my phone, so, may I ask where you live? So I can convert time.
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Upstate New York US, Just south of Syracuse New York. Eastern time slot. 11:15pm here.
Go into an Att store. I have been in several where the people are really nice and will help you work through this. If you don't find this to be true, go to a different store and try again. Unfortunately, you might have wasted your money getting the full retail version of the phone. Why not just return it and get one through Att or Best Buy? Mine cost me $175 with the contract extension and I'm happy as can be. As for your true unlimited data, this might be the end of that! Welcome to throttling (but check out the thread on how to bypass the data limit). Whatever you do, don't stop until you've found someone who helps you convert your plan to a grandfathered unlimited one.
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When I switched from my dumb phone to my smart phone 4 years ago I didn't tell them about it so I guess I was still on the unlimited data for no-smart phones. Well, how stupid they are to think I go through 20-30 GB of data a month without it being a smart phone (I did a lot of tethering during those years).
I bought my Note 2 online. I assumed they wouldn't know about the phone switch since they didn't know about my phone switch 4 years ago. I guess because the Note 2 uses a different frequency they became aware of it that way. Anyway, it shouldn't matter. I was on an unlimited plan before and I think it is not unreasnable to be on an unlimited plan after switching. God how I hate AT&T. I was playing cards with some friends earlier tonight and an AT&T ad came on the TV. I wanted to throw something at the TV so badly!
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So you never had unlimited data for smart phones and your mad at att?! You been cheating the system for 4 years and your upset at att?! You have to have smartphone unlimited data to be grandfathered into smartphone unlimited data, it doesn't take rocket science.
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When I switched from my dumb phone to my smart phone 4 years ago I didn't tell them about it so I guess I was still on the unlimited data for no-smart phones. Well, how stupid they are to think I go through 20-30 GB of data a month without it being a smart phone (I did a lot of tethering during those years).
I bought my Note 2 online. I assumed they wouldn't know about the phone switch since they didn't know about my phone switch 4 years ago. I guess because the Note 2 uses a different frequency they became aware of it that way. Anyway, it shouldn't matter. I was on an unlimited plan before and I think it is not unreasnable to be on an unlimited plan after switching. God how I hate AT&T. I was playing cards with some friends earlier tonight and an AT&T ad came on the TV. I wanted to throw something at the TV so badly!
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After your explanation, I see now why you were switched. Here's what's apparently happening. Your smartphone before the Note II apparently didn't require LTE or report that it needed it, hence why AT&T gullible-y never realized you were using a smartphone. It's also possible that your smartphone was also on the 3G network only, which is what most non-smartphones use. Although the Note II can run on 3G networks, it would still report to the carrier that it needs access to 4G to 4G LTE networks unless you had told it not to, which seems you didn't within the hour of using it. Of course, you wouldn't have known this since you just got the phone. It also would have told AT&T that your IMEI had changed the moment you put the sim card in, which would have revealed to AT&T that you did indeed have a Note II, hence this situation.
Either way, there's no way around this situation as far as I can see unless you ask them if there's a way you can be considered as grandfathered into regular unlimited data. If you're a long time AT&T user, cite that you've been a loyal customer, but tell them you'd hate to have to go to another carrier over this. You would also need to be under contract.
No offense, and I'm guilty in another form of this in a way, but due to your circumstances, it can be perceived that you tried to cheat the system, which is in no way AT&T's fault, but yours, and you're just upset that you got caught.
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After using my Note 2 for about an hour I got a text from AT&T saying they were switching my data plan because a LTE data plan was required. Previously I had an unlimited data plan. Sure enough, I checked my account online and now I have the 3 gb plan with $10 per 1gb over the limit. How can they do this? I don't want this? What are my options? I specifically bought the Note 2 paying full retail because I didn't want AT&T to know I switched phones. This sucks!!
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If its unlim smartphone data it will be grandfathered if u bought the phone and it was manually swapped. If u have unlim smartphone data and put your sim in an lte device without telling att, the system will automatically add the 3gb plan. Its not made to add unlim even if you have it. If you upgrade at a store online or over the phone with unlim data you will keep it.
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Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent) of AT&T's customer service department. They said I had an unlimited non-smartphone plan and that they could not upgrade me to an unlimited LTE plan. I mentioned the FCC ruling ( http://bgr.com/2012/11/07/att-fcc-fine-data-plans/ ) but I don't know if people in India even know what the FCC is. Those people on the phone don't give last names or employee numbers so they feel they are unacountable.
I've been using a smart phone for the past 4 years but apparently I was still on the non-smart phone plan. They said because of that they can not switch me over to the unlimited LTE plan. So, what should I do now? I will not stay wit ha limited plan. I'll switch to T-Mobile first. However my AT&T Note 2 will not work with T-Mobile's system I think. Also, I'd rather not switch as its a pain in the ass. I really hope I can get this resolved. Do you think I'd have beeter luck in person at a store?
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You circumvented the system for 4 years, and now that has caught up with you..
Deal with it or go to a different carrier...very simple
What phone did you switch to the Note 2 from?
I'm with the guys above, looks like you were trying to beat the system and it caught up to you.
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Dumbo53 said:
Go into an Att store. I have been in several where the people are really nice and will help you work through this. If you don't find this to be true, go to a different store and try again. ... Whatever you do, don't stop until you've found someone who helps you convert your plan to a grandfathered unlimited one.
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I will give it another shot of two MOnday and see how it goes.
onthezone said:
So you never had unlimited data for smart phones and your mad at att?! You been cheating the system for 4 years and your upset at att?! You have to have smartphone unlimited data to be grandfathered into smartphone unlimited data, it doesn't take rocket science.
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Until two days ago I didn't know there were two seperate unlimited plans (one for smart phone and one for non-smart phones). The reason I didn't tell AT&T I switched to a smartphone 4 years ago is because I thought I would lose my unlimited data plan. It was not to save $15 a month. I could care less about that. It hindsight I should have told them and been on the unlimited smartphone plan but I was so concerned that they would cancel my unlimited data plan I din't do that.
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Either way, there's no way around this situation as far as I can see unless you ask them if there's a way you can be considered as grandfathered into regular unlimited data. If you're a long time AT&T user, cite that you've been a loyal customer, but tell them you'd hate to have to go to another carrier over this. You would also need to be under contract.
No offense, and I'm guilty in another form of this in a way, but due to your circumstances, it can be perceived that you tried to cheat the system, which is in no way AT&T's fault, but yours, and you're just upset that you got caught.
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Well, I may have cheated the system for $15 a month it turns out but that was not my intention. My intention was only to keep unlimited data. Don't we all "cheat the system" here everytime we do something that the networks don't want us doing with our phones? Tethering, trying to get around throttling, even rooting can be considered cheating the system. I always thought that was part of the spirit of modding and customizing.
wase4711 said:
You circumvented the system for 4 years, and now that has caught up with you..
Deal with it or go to a different carrier...very simple
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I like 'circumvented' better than cheated; it sounds less judgemental. Yeah, those may be my two options. If they are, I will choose option 2-- go to a different carrier. In that case, I'll be putting my 3-day old Note 2 up for sale I guess and buying one from T-Mobile.
Astom22 said:
What phone did you switch to the Note 2 from?
I'm with the guys above, looks like you were trying to beat the system and it caught up to you.
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I was using a HTC Touch HD. It was a great phone for the time and I installed Dutty's custom rom found on these forums. However a lot has changed in 4 years. I don't like the progress (or lack of it) with Windows and all of my 'must have' programs are now available on Android so making the switch was an each choice (and long overdue).
rogerbacon50 said:
Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent) of AT&T's customer service department. They said I had an unlimited non-smartphone plan and that they could not upgrade me to an unlimited LTE plan. I mentioned the FCC ruling ( http://bgr.com/2012/11/07/att-fcc-fine-data-plans/ ) but I don't know if people in India even know what the FCC is. Those people on the phone don't give last names or employee numbers so they feel they are unacountable.
I've been using a smart phone for the past 4 years but apparently I was still on the non-smart phone plan. They said because of that they can not switch me over to the unlimited LTE plan. So, what should I do now? I will not stay wit ha limited plan. I'll switch to T-Mobile first. However my AT&T Note 2 will not work with T-Mobile's system I think. Also, I'd rather not switch as its a pain in the ass. I really hope I can get this resolved. Do you think I'd have beeter luck in person at a store?
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A cheater and a Racist. So sick of people like you.
ruinkhan said:
A cheater and a Racist. So sick of people like you.
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I'm sorry to anyone who misconstrued my remarks. I was upset with the customer service reprezsentative and her thick accent was not making matters any easier. Perhaps that is why I mentioned that she was probably in India. I certainly didn't mean to disparage all Indians and if anyone took it that way I am sorry.
A followup session with a rep today resulted in pretty much the same thing, except they're giving me $50 off my next bill. Really though, by that point I didn't even try that hard. I've decided I'll switch to T-Mobile because, even if I got to keep unlimited data with AT&T there would still be the throtttling issues to deal with each month. T-Mobile may not have the breakneck speed of AT&T (right now) but I don't need 50+ Mb/s.
rogerbacon50 said:
Well, I may have cheated the system for $15 a month it turns out but that was not my intention. My intention was only to keep unlimited data.
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I don't know.. AT&T didn't discontinue unlimited or throttled data back then.. You shouldn't have had any issues keeping unlimited data when switching phones unless you wanted to save $15/month.
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
There is no reason to stay if you don't want to. If sprint has good enough service for you and is cheaper, go for it.
Good luck with sprint. **** service
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it' s a tough choice, Verizon gives best service and they know it and take advantage, the ones who know they aren't up to par let things slide like unlocking to gain customers. and it works, I also have been with Verizon sine before it was even called Verizon (so my dad says) and I don't think I could get him to ever switch (he doesn't care about root, just service) so my future is in the hands of the great devs and or dev edition phones, yayyy. Verizon has gone down hill fast since crApple came. everything that was decent changed, recently 24 mount contracts now, no longer 20 month, 14 day return rather than 30. Guess we will see how things play out at least with this phone we are able to send it out for S-OFF. and it came fast, very cool.
I hopefully sending mine out next week.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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What have they done to the phone?
There's no reason to stay. Just like mentioned before - if you have no need for Verizon's service coverage vs. Sprint's, then why stay with them? If you get solid Sprint coverage everywhere you need it, then switch. Otherwise, the only reason to stay is for the coverage. That's generally the only reason to go with carrier X over carrier Y.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I just left Sprint after 13 years and picked this phone up on Verizon. Let me tell you the grass is not greener on the other side, Unlimited data is meaningless when you can't even play a youtube video for your kid in the car even though you're in the middle of a major metropolitan area (Seattle). If you want dial up speeds then by all means go for it.
Just switched from sprint also after being with them for 14 years. The data speeds were so slow they were unusable. It got to the point where I couldn't even get make a phone call without dropping the call. I drove from Ohio to Florida and only picked up LTE maybe 3 times for about 5 minutes. Other people in the car had Verizon and had LTE 90 percent of the time. Need less to say it was a damn long trip on horrible 3g and 1x
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Sprints data speeds are horrible. Had them for years. Dropped calls a lot too.
I'm not really happy with Verizon either but at least I'm never without service. I'd rather be unhappy WITH service than unhappy WITHOUT service.
Have fun. Peace out.
m4rk0358 said:
I just left Sprint after 13 years and picked this phone up on Verizon. Let me tell you the grass is not greener on the other side, Unlimited data is meaningless when you can't even play a youtube video for your kid in the car even though you're in the middle of a major metropolitan area (Seattle). If you want dial up speeds then by all means go for it.
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Same here. I was with Sprint 9 years. The dropped calls, terrible data just got to be too much. They recently turned the 4G LTE on in my area and it was spotty at best. I just can't get over how much better Verizon's network is.
My work phone is T-Moble. I had VZ for my personal cells and switched to AT&T about 4 years ago. I could not wait to go back to VZ. T-Moble is just brutal in my vacation home. It actually switches to AT&T service. AT&T was slow and would drop a ton of calls. VZ may be a PITA but they have the best signal/speed where I live. I'm afraid I will be with VZ a long time.
Lol. Got a buddy on Sprint, he tethers into my phone for data all the time. You really can't beat Verizon coverage and data speed.
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Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I've been somewhat considering this too. After asking around, seems AT&T is considered next best in service.
replica9000 said:
I've been somewhat considering this too. After asking around, seems AT&T is considered next best in service.
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Eh not anywhere I've been. ATT is barely better than Sprint where I've been. T-mobile is pretty much second in areas I've been which is alot.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I was with Sprint for 10 years and I'm glad I left them. Sure you can still get unlimited data with them but their service is terrible. Sprint LTE is going to take a while to reach Verizon's coverage and the 3G speeds are a joke. Verizon may torture us with their stance against modding, but most of us just deal with it because their service is the best...case in point, the recent JD Power rankings. Being able to unlock and root doesn't mean anything if you don't have the network support to back it up.
andybones said:
it' s a tough choice, Verizon gives best service and they know it and take advantage, the ones who know they aren't up to par let things slide like unlocking to gain customers. and it works, I also have been with Verizon sine before it was even called Verizon (so my dad says) and I don't think I could get him to ever switch (he doesn't care about root, just service) so my future is in the hands of the great devs and or dev edition phones, yayyy. Verizon has gone down hill fast since crApple came. everything that was decent changed, recently 24 mount contracts now, no longer 20 month, 14 day return rather than 30. Guess we will see how things play out at least with this phone we are able to send it out for S-OFF. and it came fast, very cool.
I hopefully sending mine out next week.
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I sell Verizon phones at a premium retailer and must say apple is the cause of all my problems and have seen that as soon as apple came along all the plans changed they got rid of unlimited apple is the root of all evil
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Let the OP go to Sprint - he'll be back fast enough. The reason vzw did what they did was because they didn't want to swap out a bunch of phones and do all that paperwork.
In the future don't jump on the phone the first day or week it's out, wait a while to see if that's what you want.
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good luck. Had sprint, then t-mobile before verizon.
Sprint was bad, 200kbits/sec speeds when having 3g signal. Their LTE runs on 2500mhz which means you'll drop that as soon as you walk inside.
T-mobile had much faster data speeds, but coverage was horrendous and a lot of dropped calls.
You get what you pay for. Unless you live on wifi, you'll be crying about sprint soon enough.
I've heard terrible things about Sprint, but I've never had their service. I had T-mobile YEARS ago and it was awful, I'm sure things have changed since then.
Verizon isn't cheap, it's a headache to go through the loophole to keep your unlimited data, but if you're going to switch to Sprint, do your research, and make sure you're going to be okay with slower data speeds and spotty coverage.
I don't like waiting extra time for phones on Verizon, nor do I enjoy the bloat that they fill their phones with, but that's the reality of it and the cost of keeping my unlimited data with a company that has a fast/reliable network.
Thankfully, we have awesome developers who work their magic and donate their work to the community.
jbh00jh said:
Let the OP go to Sprint - he'll be back fast enough. The reason vzw did what they did was because they didn't want to swap out a bunch of phones and do all that paperwork.
In the future don't jump on the phone the first day or week it's out, wait a while to see if that's what you want.
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Two years ago, I switched to Sprint. Got home and realized I couldn't even make phone calls inside my house. Next day,returned the sprint phones and went back to VZW. I have never looked at another carrier since.
I will say that when I went back to VZW, they gave me two new upgrades on my phones.... that was a plus to my mess.